Work smart legally

Make more than you spend.

sajmark:
Mostly, she feels betrayed, confused or uncomfortable with the new you and she falls off.

Then let her. Life is too short.

Let's say for example
* a SIMP has been:
1. Paying his girlfriend weekly/monthly allowances.
2. Paying her school fees.
3. Upgrading her iPhone whenever a new one drops.
4. Changing her wardrobe from time to time.
5. Taking care of his girlfriend's family.
6. Opened and funding a business for his girlfriend.

When he takes the redpill and comes to his senses, do you think she will love him when he takes all of the above mentioned away?

You're still falling into the "What will she think" trap. That is how you lose frame even if you weren't doing all these before.

Take your stand, within reason, and let her decide if it's acceptable to her or not. Going by your example, a man doing all that for a girlfriend will see an instant account surplus when he stops. Unless that money is rechanneled to frivolities, it will be a huge financial breather that should help him actuate his goals better and faster; leading to better outcomes--financially, mentally, in his career, and otherwise--in no distant time.

If a gal is too thick or superficial to not see the long-term benefits, instead preferring to pilfer what she can at the moment; then I'm not sure why you'd want such a person close to you much more maintain a romantic relationship. Simping is not only a disorder because ladies are in general ungrateful, but also because it destroys a man's potential.

If you're spending the prime earning years of your life shouldering the responsibilities of a girlfriend who can end things through a N4 text message, you are being financially irresponsible.

When you stop simping financially, you are practically detoxing your finances. Anyone who has a problem with that is an enemy of progress, whether you f*ck them or not. That should be your primary consideration, not whether she "will still love you." The love women have for their partners are usually conditional.

As such, whatever emotional blackmail she retorts with, respond with a calm, resolute disposition under the context of how it'll make your life better. Consequently, if she's too selfish to accept that, then it's her loss. Let her know that. It's not a world war. The people in your life should be a net positive.

ALPHA F*CKS, BETA BUCKS.
Once a girl has classified you as a beta bucks, it is almost impossible to transform into an alpha f*cks.

I'm not disputing the difficulty. Yes, a lot of the time, it is almost impossible. My point is that it is nuanced. Not everyone's case is as extreme nor is every guy in a position where they can just up and leave without first applying red-pill nuggets.

-Lord

Redpill

@LordAdam16

I am not disagreeing with you. I am just sharing my perspective.

Number 3 of the greatest YouTubers I recommend:

ROM WILLS
https://youtube.com/c/RomWills

A Guy. He's in his 50s and brings a wealth of game to the manosphere. Another buddy with the late Kevin Samuels he's the guy who first talked about women's sexual Shadow World on YouTube (as in the secret things women do when they unleash their raw sexual lust with discrete men that the average man will never witness). He's on record for preferring to use "Select" and "Non Select" in place of Alpha and Beta because he feels Alpha and Beta don't quite explain the reality of men who get women vs men who don't get women. He's big on the body game (gym) and being Chosen and his work on choosing signals is pure gold. He never bashes women but lays out female nature in a friendly rational way. Honestly he must be number 1 on this list but I chose to put him in 3rd place and give 2nd and 1st place in fact to Ladies who are part of the manosphere and give a unique insight into the game.

I’d rather say “OK” or just touch her, if she resists, I simply walk her out.

ubunja:
Number 3 of the greatest YouTubers I recommend:

ROM WILLS
https://youtube.com/c/RomWills

A Guy. He's in his 50s and brings a wealth of game to the manosphere. Another buddy with the late Kevin Samuels he's the guy who first talked about women's sexual Shadow World on YouTube (as in the secret things women do when they unleash their raw sexual lust with discrete men that the average man will never witness). He's on record for preferring to use "Select" and "Non Select" in place of Alpha and Beta because he feels Alpha and Beta don't quite explain the reality of men who get women vs men who don't get women. He's big on the body game (gym) and being Chosen and his work on choosing signals is pure gold. He never bashes women but lays out female nature in a friendly rational way. Honestly he must be number 1 on this list but I chose to put him in 3rd place and give 2nd and 1st place in fact to Ladies who are part of the manosphere and give a unique insight into the game.

Back then, I listened to his profound insights on body game. Dude is frank and insightful.

sajmark:


ALPHA F*CKS, BETA BUCKS.
Once a girl has classified you as a beta bucks, it is almost impossible to transform into an alpha f*cks.

Word.

Don’t shit where you eat. Familiarity breeds disrespect. #trp

Number 2 of the Four greatest YouTube channels for a red piller will be:
MY NON LEATHER LIFE

https://youtube.com/user/marthaflatley

A Lady. I don't have much background info on her. But she's rooting for men big time. And does her best to explain female nature in the simplest ways. She's white.

Redpill

okay, here's the YouTube channel I consider the most on point Red Pill Channel at the moment. If you enjoyed Ubunja's Miseducations you'll love this page because this girl is saying the same things I've been saying for ages.

The Lion's Den
https://youtube.com/channel/UCVLFyrU0pdXZyntm8kLhEDg

She's a black girl. Her name is China White. And boy does she bring the heat with her videos. If the Miseducations were videos, they'd be something like this.....

The Lion's Den
This chick is firing on all cylinders...

ubunja:
The Lion's Den

This chick is firing on all cylinders...

"The alpha is her god. You are just something to survive on." Jeez!

Her topics are inviting. Kai!

LordAdam16:


Then let her. Life is too short.



You're still falling into the "What will she think" trap. That is how you lose frame even if you weren't doing all these before.

Take your stand, within reason, and let her decide if it's acceptable to her or not. Going by your example, a man doing all that for a girlfriend will see an instant account surplus when he stops. Unless that money is rechanneled to frivolities, it will be a huge financial breather that should help him actuate his goals better and faster; leading to better outcomes--financially, mentally, in his career, and otherwise--in no distant time.

If a gal is too thick or superficial to not see the long-term benefits, instead preferring to pilfer what she can at the moment; then I'm not sure why you'd want such a person close to you much more maintain a romantic relationship. Simping is not only a disorder because ladies are in general ungrateful, but also because it destroys a man's potential.

If you're spending the prime earning years of your life shouldering the responsibilities of a girlfriend who can end things through a N4 text message, you are being financially irresponsible.

When you stop simping financially, you are practically detoxing your finances. Anyone who has a problem with that is an enemy of progress, whether you f*ck them or not. That should be your primary consideration, not whether she "will still love you." The love women have for their partners are usually conditional.

As such, whatever emotional blackmail she retorts with, respond with a calm, resolute disposition under the context of how it'll make your life better. Consequently, if she's too selfish to accept that, then it's her loss. Let her know that. It's not a world war. The people in your life should be a net positive.



I'm not disputing the difficulty. Yes, a lot of the time, it is almost impossible. My point is that it is nuanced. Not everyone's case is as extreme nor is every guy in a position where they can just up and leave without first applying red-pill nuggets.

-Lord

Relax, it is not an argument as I believe we're on the same page.

Not everyone will simp so hard in his pre-redpill relationship, such men can try applying redpill game... It might work even though the chances are low.

When the SIMP in the example I gave earlier stops doing all he was doing for her and focuses on improving himself, other women will see him as an ambitious Alpha... But his pre-redpill girlfriend will hate him, call him stingy, try as much as possible to bring him back to his former simping self and if she fails, she leaves.

Which brings us back to my earlier suggestion that said not to take your pre-redpill relationships serious (not necessarily end it immediately) after taking the pill but instead focus on starting new relationships with the emboldened type of women I referred to... Because you are already an ALPHA to the emboldened women in my text but you must go through a lot of work to transform into an alpha from a beta in the eyes of your pre-redpill girlfriend (which isn't worth it because you automatically pedestalise her by even putting such efforts)

Only a married man should put in such an effort of transforming from Beta to Alpha, I wouldn't advice a single guy to do such.

In a way, we're saying the same thing bro.

Martinez39s:
Back then, I listened to his profound insights on body game. Dude is frank and insightful.

he's a cool dude,, calm as a river. And he definitely knows what he's talking about from personal experience. He's one of YouTube's greats.

ProphetJeroboam:
LOL.

This is terrible.

Hi guys, its been a while. Big thumps to the guys still keeping this space alive.
To the workout enthusiast in the house. It's been long since I workout so I decided to yesterday and my calf workout literally gave me a huge ache in my leg now I can't work and I think I have muscle sprain so who has experience this before and how did you solve it?.

Society will try to shame you into doing what you don't want to do, its your duty to stop them.

......

Martinez39s:
if you haven't worked out in a long while, the level of soreness you will experience when you resume is similar to that of when you first started gyming. On the other hand, the soreness you feel when you have been working out regularly isn't that much; it's as if your body has gotten used to the training.

Try to rest. Muscles must be given time to heal. You will be alright. Don't rush things; rest and recovery are very important in achieving your goals.

Thanks man, truth is I can't even walk properly without limping

ubunja:
Here are the 4 YouTube channels that I recommend guys follow closely. I consider them the best of the crop. I may not agree 100% with what these people teach, but I'd say 8/10 they're on point. And that's an extremely high rating in my book.

I'm listing them on order of importance. From the least to the greatest.


Number 4:
Cousin T Taw

https://youtube.com/channel/UCYRwnmeWgTqWJ-EzGm7QAPw

A guy. He's a former male stripper who made a living performing for women in parties and also as a male prostitute. His work is extremely focused on sex, female lust, the body game and the like. His approach is from the sex industry where women pay men for sex. He's one of those YouTubers who was in the late Kevin Samuels' inner circle. His message can be abstract and hard to understand but where you understand him he'll blow your mind.

I'm surprised you don't have Sheraseven on your list.

Raalsalghul:


I'm surprised you don't have Sheraseven on your list.

lol she used to be there. But its an everchanging list based on current information. she's a worthy content creator, just that her videos require reverse-engineering since they're actually meant for women.

Nice compilation ubunja,but u guys should still check this guy Dr.boa and this channel love-vendor god

ubunja:
lol she used to be there. But its an everchanging list based on current information. she's a worthy content creator, just that her videos require reverse-engineering since they're actually meant for women.

Happy Birthday, Man. More blessings to you.

hazard7:
Hi guys, its been a while. Big thumps to the guys still keeping this space alive.
To the workout enthusiast in the house. It's been long since I workout so I decided to yesterday and my calf workout literally gave me a huge ache in my leg now I can't work and I think I have muscle sprain so who has experience this before and how did you solve it?.

It is part of the process. Give it time, the pain is as a result of accumulation of lactic acid in the muscle fibers. Max 3 days the pain will be gone. Have you done squatting to the extent you can't squat or sit on the toilet seat to take a dump?


No Pain
No Gain

Pain Heals Pain.

Ninejaywon:



It is part of the process. Give it time, the pain is as a result of accumulation of lactic acid in the muscle fibers. Max 3 days the pain will be gone. Have you done squatting to the extent you can't squat or sit on the toilet seat to take a dump?


No Pain
No Gain

Pain Heals Pain.

Ok thanks man

Osoboshi:
Nice compilation ubunja,but u guys should still check this guy Dr.boa and this channel love-vendor god

true,, BOA is an excellent red pill coach and he's the one who StephIsCold looks up to. But seeing as there was space for only 4, other masters were bound to be left out.

Pímp God is another guy I've followed long time. He reads Pímp literature a lot on his shows and I've plenty of screenshots from his comment section from years ago.

DieRich5:
many men

Many many many many men

Martinez39s:
@LordAdam16

I am not disagreeing with you. I am just sharing my perspective.

It's allowed. You can disagree at well. I always welcome contrasting viewpoints.

If you apply red pill newly with that female you have done all those beta, simpish and nonredpill stuffs for and it is not working, move along and don't stress yourself. Women plenty.

Proof that we understand and agree with each other.

My initial response to Sajmark's post was because of the "Once a simp, always a simp" absolutism within a specific relationship.

I'm cautious about absolutes in TRP because hard as we may try, most guys especially on our side of the pond still want fulfilling romantic relationships. I'd rather they didn't, but it is what it is.

The notable exceptions to my write-up are as follows:
(1) if she has no other options and your association with her is very beneficial (especially financially), you can leverage on this to make some rules and put her bullcraps in check. However, she will yield unwillingly because it ensures the benefits, but her pùssy won't get wet for you ever again. Showing her sexual best to you and doing the nasty stuffs —that she would have willing done to the alpha— will be unavailable to you; you are a turn-off.

If left to her, she would have distanced herself from you sexually and still want the benefits. The difference between you and the perceived natural alpha is that she yields to him of her own accord and readily makes herself available because he inspires genuine desire and her feelings are involved. Your leverage (the benefits) can only go so far. Genuine desire can't be negotiated. To experience profound and maximum success in your new red pill awareness again IN ALL ASPECTS, starting afresh is the only way.

I don't believe it is the only way. The only reason why it seems that way is the difficulty in applying TRP. As it goes against the very nature, upbringing, and societal conditioning of the vast majority of men. Men regularly backslide, drop frame, and momentarily fail sh*t tests and the lady subconsciously picks up on that.

Even in a fresh relationship, the dynamics would deteriorate under the same circumstances.

That said, you are correct in that "genuine desire can't be negotiated." The concern is that folks, even in TRP, conflate frame and sexual compatibility. There are women out there who would say no to The Game or Harry Styles or Ian Somerhalder. Not to even mention showing their naughty side.

That you have high SMV, maintain frame, or are an alpha does not mean every woman who sets eyes on you would want to touch her toes. Interestingly, women have no issue marrying or entering LTRs with men who wouldn't ever suss out the bitches in them. In fact, all too often they prefer to use sexual access as a nudging tool in their relationships. In unserious relationships, them go use you hold body for data, hair, and cream money. While preparing to hop to another branch. If last last, hypergamy no work, dem go accept your ring lyk dat.

Hence, if you are in a RR with a woman who has been managing you from the start, even after you build your frame, that would not spark what you call "genuine desire." Even if you leave her, with your RP knowledge, you will not automatically spark "genuine desire" in every woman you meet or know or on your contact list. You'll still have to watch out for choosing signals.

Starting afresh is not the panacea it is made out to be. A lot of guys make unforced errors choosing a mate right off the bat, then mindlessly simp in a desperate effort to stop the babe's gaze from shifting.

I am not advocating divorce or the dissolution of your relationship. I am just reporting on how I see things. Even in marriage and relationships, there are things that you do that will irreversibly damage sexual attraction from your woman and level of respect as a alpha; despite this, relationships and marriages still continue despite the damaged because of financial benefits from the man, investments, convenience and diminished options. Heck, even betas are married to women who don't find them attractive and worthy of respect, but they move along because he has the benefits she married him for. A lot of husbands have lasting marriages, but they will never get to the sexual results and unalloyed lust from their wives that an alpha has gotten and can get from her. A woman's heart and pùssy can desire someone else, but she will endure a lifelong marriage if it benefits her.

I am just reporting as I know things are.

All you've said here is true. The key though wrt the topic of discussion is applying TRP. One of the main tenets is having an abundant mindset.

All relationships have compromises. By their very nature, compromises in relationships are inevitable. If unabashed "unalloyed lust" is one of the key things you can't do without, compromise on, or realized you've never gotten from your SO, you should be willing to walk out. Whether it is a chewing-gum bf-gf relationship or a devoted marriage. No dey dia dey form strong man.

I'll say this for men in Nigeria. If you earn 1.5m+ pa and clean up nicely, regardless of your marital or relationship status, there is no sexual fantasy that can't be fulfilled by a gal in this country. You go see banny wen go loose guard for you. I dey see Simps wen dey spin plates. Artisans dey tidy married middle class women for this country. So there is no excuse to stay in a relationship as a guy who's worked on himself when aunty would not be naughty with you. If you're staying, there is something else you're benefitting. Whether her connections, brain, temperament, homemaking or childcaring capabilities, or whatever.

This is why some folks have reservations with the use of the term 'Alpha'. Sometimes it creates unrealistic expectations. Even if you exhibit Alpha tendencies, whenever your form drop for an extended period of time, you go see wetin pass you on top your Alpha. In purple pill relationships, regardless of seriousness, there are still lull periods, cheating still happens, there are still conscious efforts to rekindle the spark.

No b to hurry comot relationship because you finish 'The Rational Man', when you never internalize TRP properly. Wetin you dey avoid for your current relationship go still dey wait you for junction. It is after you've worked on yourself, concretely worked out the errors you made in your current relationship from inception to date, identified what you'd be working towards in a realistic LTR, that you decide whether leaving is for the best.

If you're still doing "baby, come over" in school or as a young adult, lucky you. Now is your time to make mistakes and gain practical experience, if you're planning to get married. In fact, you can change gf every 3 days while building your frame if you so choose, you no send anybody papa.

-Lord