WAPINATION:


If it was only rigging but massive vote suppression and I guess thats the major reason LP has to opt for tendering the form EC8’s as their evidence and since the document they tendered is issued and certified by INEC bro there is no how the court won’t act on it because the document is of INEC and not doctored nor manufactured by the LP.

You don't expect their evidence to come from the results that were rigged at the state level already then collated by Yakubu in Abuja to declare APC winner no we all have to go back to the root where the results came from which units of wards of LGA’s. This is the only place clear evidence can be obtained from to ascertain the truth and fair judgement to all party involved so my brother if the judiciary is not partial they must act on that document since it was of INEC its as simple as that.

The court can't act on them until obi people clearly explain and show irregularities in each results one by one

senatordave1:


He will inform the court and parties places he intends to dispute

He had already done that inside the petition..

They also want him to list the whole Wards and Polling-units too.??

senatordave1:


They must state the particular areas....

They must also state all the wards and all the Polling-units too?
(Since naming the STATE is not enough)

Kubin:
go and read obi petition,he said 11states and others,or you don't know the meaning of others, efulefu.

Oga,in court you must be specific.he must mention the other states or inform the other parties the 7 extra states.in litigation,a petitioner must be detailed and straight to the point not ambiguous

sonature1:
Mr Kemi Pinhero, SAN! Who made this man a SAN?

Elections take place across polling units which are way smaller than LGAs.

If the result INEC declared doesn't tally with the results across the polling units, LGAs and states, it means INEC rigged the election in-house. That's enough to declare the petitioner the winner.

Pls this delusion is already making u guys irrational

sreamsense:
Court does not deal with emotion, but the law. For obi to bring irrelevant materials as exhibit will just amount to waste of time. Is it not the same EC8A that one 'Amaka' would sign for all polling unit agents of other parties for fraud cases? How can that be reliable? The electronically transmitted ones remains more reliable. LP can't teach INEC on how to do her work. Same procedures were followed where LP won and other previous elections. At the end of the day, INEC and APC will give reasons for their objections and let's see if LP will not begin to cry foul again

Lolz. You know nothing.

BluntCrazeMan:
Well..



The judge had already responded to the issue of “Presentation” with regards to any evidence that was released by the INEC themselves..

He has not responded.they all agreed that they will accept all inec documents while giving reasons for objections at the final stage.so,the judge merely accepted them as agreed,expect a lot of them to be struck out before or during the judgment

GeneralPula:
Pinhero explained that issues were not joined in the local government areas where the result sheets were sought to be tendered, adding that it was wrong for the petitioners to go beyond the areas where the election was disputed.

According to INEC, the local government areas unlawfully smuggled into proceedings of the court are totally strange to the petition and cannot stand in the face of the law.

Imagine. Lamba Nanu & his crooked Lawyers..

Interesting days ahead..

Lolz. Using bot to increase your likes won't change court decision in your favour

BluntCrazeMan:
They must also state all the wards and all the Polling-units too?
(Since naming the STATE is not enough)

Yes.it must be polling unit by polling unit

BluntCrazeMan:
He had already done that inside the petition..

They also want him to list the whole Wards and Polling-units too.??

Yes for the defence and judges to be ready

GeneralPula:

Seem you’re allergic to comprehension..

Inec is indicting your Lp and you’re here flipping..

According to INEC, the local government areas unlawfully smuggled into proceedings of the court are totally strange to the petition and cannot stand in the face of the law.

If inec is sure of itself, why oppose any documents tendered at all?

BluntCrazeMan:
We still dey court oga.

Stop pre-empting.

At the end of the whole wharrever, whoever that wins, let him take the seat.

One thing is, we have changed the situation already, and we are going to change the situation even more sef in the near future.

I am not.i am only trying to info unenlightened obidients why inec rejected those documents is not due to sinister reasonay

BluntCrazeMan:
Inside the PETITION,, I could clearly read where they mentioned ELEVEN STATES, and then went ahead to write “AND OTHER STATES”


LP had produced the results in the mentioned 11 states,, and proceeded to continue to produce the results in some “OTHER” additional 7 States, making it a total of 18 States in all..

How can the INEC be expecting Peter Obi to tender only the STATE-LEVEL Collated Results for the States they were disputing, without him tendering all the Polling-unit Results, and all Wards Collated Results, and all the LGAs Collated Results of all the States he intended to dispute..??


For the Fact that he wrote “And Other States” inside his petition,, he is at liberty to dispute the whole if the 36 States and the FCT...
Thus, the 11 mentioned states are sacrosanct..
Any other states he added are at his choice.

How can you expect generalpula to understand such things?

There is a reason why he is APC dwdwq

senatordave1:


Oga,in court you must be specific.he must mention the other states or inform the other parties the 7 extra states.in litigation,a petitioner must be detailed and straight to the point not ambiguous

you know all this things and your not among tinubu legal team.

BreconHills:


Bros, I don't know if you are a lawyer. It doesn't sound like it. Pleadings are required to be specific. There is nothing like "...and other" You must state the exact evidence or data that you want to show in your pleadings in detail so that the other party can prepare a defense. There is nothing like someone erroneously said below - surprising your opponent. If you surprise your opponent he has the right to ask for an adjournment to study any new evidence not specifically pleaded and to amend his pleadings if necessary as well as adduce additional evidence to meet it.

You do know that this matter is going to the supreme court and the Sc can only rule on matters argued in the lower courts. So everybody needs to be specific. If you are not or if the lower court wrongly admits evidence the earlier judgment can be overruled.

Everybody is setting traps here at the tribunal. The real fireworks is at the court of appeal.

Keep your powder dry. The road is far. This is not WWF

drlateef:




Wrong position. What’s the difference between 11 states and “other states”? Tell us the difference. Is it meant to confuse the judges as regards the remit of their dispute?

senatordave1:


That is a report not law.the law states that parties must be given notice of what they want to do

First of all, I would need you guys to read this excerpt from Peter Obi's Petition..
Paragraph 101, sub-paragraph (b)....

“101. At the trial, the Petitioners shall rely on ALL the 1st Respondent's electoral and other necessary documents used for the conduct of the Presidential election, including:

“(b) ALL INEC Result sheets - Form EC8 Series EC8A, EC8B, EC8C, EC8D and EC8E in both physical and electronic copies.”

I need you guys to tell me how Ambiguous the word “ALL” as used here is.


And secondly...
I need you guys to read this thing that I am going to write down here-below,, and tell me what you guys understood by it..

1. Rivers
2. Lagos
3. Taraba
4. Benue
5. Adamawa
6. Imo
7. Bauchi
8. Borno
9. Kaduna, and
10. Plateau
11. Other States of the Federation.

Question-1: Is the list restricted to only 10 States? (Or 11 States??)


Question-2: What is the MINIMUM number of States which is allowed by this list.??

Question-3: What is the MAXIMUM number of States which is allowed by this list.??

senatordave1:

Yes.it must be polling unit by polling unit

So, they should also have named all the Polling-units inside their petition naa.??

BluntCrazeMan:
So, they should also have named all the Polling-units inside their petition naa.??

Yes for specificity

senatordave1:


He has not responded.they all agreed that they will accept all inec documents while giving reasons for objections at the final stage.so,the judge merely accepted them as agreed,expect a lot of them to be struck out before or during the judgment

Ok then.



I think I am done with you at this stage of discussion..

We continue this discussion as time goes on..

Probably at the time of judgement.

"The counsel, however, said that he was compelled to offer some explanation following the bashing the commission received in the media that it was objecting to the admittance of its own documents in court."

Inec foolish reason for objection calls for more bashing with all alacrity.

senatordave1:


Yes for specificity

So, you are saying that now that the whole 176K+ Polling-units (or let me say,, the whole Polling-units in the 18 States) were not all fully listed inside the petition,, then the whole exhibits should all the thrown out.??


Meanwhile,, I need you to answer the question above as detailed as you could be.

@GeneralPula
Seem you’re allergic to comprehension..

Inec is indicting your Lp and you’re here flipping..

[b]According to INEC, the local government areas unlawfully smuggled into proceedings of the court are totally strange to the petition and cannot stand in the face of the law.


@me
Correct interpretation my brother. Every social media rat thinks that legal language is what they can understand without learning.

In law you first establish the issue. Next you produce evidence to back up the issues. You can't bring up evidence that were not part of the original issues established. The respondent will object to it and it will not influence the decision of the judge. It will just be a mere wasted paper.

The Peter obi's lawyers are very unprepared.

BluntCrazeMan:
So, you are saying that now that the whole 176K+ Polling-units (or let me say,, the whole Polling-units in the 18 States) were not all fully listed inside the petition,, then the whole exhibits should all the thrown out.??


Meanwhile,, I need you to answer the question above as detailed as you could be.

It was not.go and reread obi petition,you will see where he mentioned.

BluntCrazeMan:
Ok then.



I think I am done with you at this stage of discussion..

We continue this discussion as time goes on..

Probably at the time of judgement.

No,we will continue next week as obi continues presenting.he has 2 weeks left

Joevics:
Election held in every local government area, and it's the right of the petitioner to decide on the scope of their petition.

INEC should rest. They've done enough.

Pls, enough damage

senatordave1:



It was not.go and reread obi petition,you will see where he mentioned.

Where he mentioned WHAT.??

BluntCrazeMan:







First of all, I would need you guys to read this excerpt from Peter Obi's Petition..
Paragraph 101, sub-paragraph (b)....


I need you guys to tell me how Ambiguous the word “ALL” as used here is.


And secondly...
I need you guys to read this thing that I am going to write down here-below,, and tell me what you guys understood by it..

1. Rivers
2. Lagos
3. Taraba
4. Benue
5. Adamawa
6. Imo
7. Bauchi
8. Borno
9. Kaduna, and
10. Plateau
11. Other States of the Federation.

Question-1: Is the list restricted to only 10 States? (Or 11 States??)


Question-2: What is the MINIMUM number of States which is allowed by this list.??

Question-3: What is the MAXIMUM number of States which is allowed by this list.??

This is a serious infraction in law.ambiguitu ended mama taraba case against pdp in 2015.how can you say you will plead on all election results,then go on to mention 11 states and then state other states? That's confusion and contradictory...the court can rule out the case due to unfair hearing

BluntCrazeMan:
Where he mentioned WHAT.??

In litigation,you must always put the judges and respondents on notice what you want to do specifically.are you aware that improper service can end cases?

BluntCrazeMan:







First of all, I would need you guys to read this excerpt from Peter Obi's Petition..
Paragraph 101, sub-paragraph (b)....


I need you guys to tell me how Ambiguous the word “ALL” as used here is.


And secondly...
I need you guys to read this thing that I am going to write down here-below,, and tell me what you guys understood by it..

1. Rivers
2. Lagos
3. Taraba
4. Benue
5. Adamawa
6. Imo
7. Bauchi
8. Borno
9. Kaduna, and
10. Plateau
11. Other States of the Federation.

Question-1: Is the list restricted to only 10 States? (Or 11 States??)


Question-2: What is the MINIMUM number of States which is allowed by this list.??

Question-3: What is the MAXIMUM number of States which is allowed by this list.??

If he had said "ALL OTHER..." states it would be fine but "Other states" is vague. Is it that he had run out of paper or printer toner?

It seems he wants the case to go on for as long as possible. Because clearly APC lawyers are going to ask for an adjournment to study these "other states" And they will get it. Traps are being set as I said before. If this court admits the evidence it can still get thrown out on appeal to the detriment of the entire case.

Usually when lawyers use omnibus phraseology it's not a trick - they simply have not mastered the material adequately. Omnibus phrases are a dead giveaway of uncompleted research.

I argued my first case in '83 and I can spot "fudging" when I see it.

Bigkoko:
At the rate INEC is going I can comfortably make two assumptions:

1. INEC is covertly sabotaging the drug Baron.

2. With avalanche of evidence produced by LP, Satan must defeat God for the Tribunal not to declare the drug Baron a usurper, Order a recount of the real results and after the counting, declare Peter Obi of Labor Party the duly elected president, for meeting the constitutional requirements!

Has irregularities been proven so far based on the evidences? Inec is actually sabotaging obi

senatordave1:


In litigation,you must always put the judges and respondents on notice what you want to do specifically.are you aware that improper service can end cases?

How can it be proven that INEC doesn't know (and that they were not aware) that those documents (which they themselves produced) were going to be presented in the Tribunal.??

If they were documents that were prepared by the Petitioners, it would have been very different.

senatordave1:



Not true sir.in law,you must be clear, unambiguous and specific.you must always give the other parties notice of what you want to do I order to avoid ambush and unfair hearing

INEC suppose to be a neutral party in this case. They are doing APC Judge for them.

Their role in this case would have just been that of a witness that can be called by either party.

Agba Lawyer....u re doing well

sonature1:
Mr Kemi Pinhero, SAN! Who made this man a SAN?

Elections take place across polling units which are way smaller than LGAs.

If the result INEC declared doesn't tally with the results across the polling units, LGAs and states, it means INEC rigged the election in-house. That's enough to declare the petitioner the winner.