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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 8:21pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Abeg u no get point. All this one no be talk. Your bible exegesis outside of searching for Muhammed in the bible isn't good enough. Asking why God can't morphed into angels to redeem them shows u need a lot of reading to do if u are to become a bible critic. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 8:37pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Of cos it won't make any sense to you because you are not seeing what you have been programmed to see and to hear. Like I said, keep the Faith. On the Day of Reckoning we shall ALL give Account. Adios! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 11:16pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 11:18am On Jun 16, 2023 |
advocatejare:Having students means nothing here. That's where you are being unreasonable! Devils in Church too have students and followers! As per the lying pastors, they must have copied it from Muhammad who was notorious for giving false prophecies!Lying pastors with Bible dey copy Muhammad that they don't believe in? Your IQ is unstable! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 11:42am On Jun 16, 2023 |
SIRTee15: I won't hide. Would answer if I wish to! And if i don't answer that doesn't mean i don't have a response! “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” Mat 2.2 This concept of translating "Bow down" to mean "worship" in all these verses particularly when it involves Jesus is dubious! And those people that visited were not Christians but Zoroastrians who believed in the stars! How would Idol worshipers worship Jesus? i] The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Luke 1.35 Who are the magi that visited and bowed for Jesus because they saw his star? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by BICE(m): 12:44pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
sonmvayina: Many were born without the communion of the man and a woman ask the spirited ones |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 1:44pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
AntiChristian: The 3 wise men couldn't be Christians, they came to worship the founder of Christianity. The Zoroastrians are monotheist. In fact Zoroastrianism is believed to be the world’s first monotheistic religion, predating Judaism. Many ancient culture believed in one God even outside of abrahamic faith. So while the Magi may not believe in the same God as the Hebrews, they were familiar with the idea of a monotheistic religion and that's why God used the magi to spread the word to other culture and religion about the only true God. According to various traditions, the Magi returned to the East and were eventually baptized by Saint Thomas the Apostle and are still regarded by some churches as Christian saints. They were also inspirational to the establishment of early church in Syriac and Persian region. So now that I answered your question, can u be honest enough to reply mine. Did the wise men worshipped the baby Jesus or the divinity in baby Jesus? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 2:06pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
AntiChristian:What does Ustaz mean? My IQ is far better than that of the lunatic you emulate who used filthy water to do ablution. I hope you are following that sunnah too Sunan an-Nasa'i 326 It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said: "It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'" 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:30pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
advocatejare: An expert in certain field! It can mean a type of Professor! My IQ is far better than that of the lunatic you emulate who used filthy water to do ablution. I hope you are following that sunnah tooYeah! So how many Book you don write? How many dey follow you like sheeple? Mumu! Wetin you don achieve in terms of political, religious, economical, social aspect of life! Sunan an-Nasa'i 326 Haven't we argued this out before? Na to always regurgitate your previous vomit! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 2:37pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Provide reference for this. Opuro! How many books did Muhammad write to make him have a better IQ. The odoyo that used to wet himself despite having numerous wives and sex slaves. Sunan Ibn Majah 538 Hammam bin Harith narrated: "A guest came and stayed with 'Aishah, and she ordered that he be given a yellow blanket of hers. He had a nocturnal emission on it, and he felt too shy to send it back to send it back to her when it had the traces of that emission on it, so he dipped it in water and then sent it to her. 'Aishah said: 'Why did he spoil our garment? It would have been sufficient for him to scrape it off with his finger. I often scraped it (semen) from the garment of the Messenger of Allah with my finger.'" Muhammad was a dirty man that used filthy water where menstrual rags and dead dogs were thrown to do ablution.
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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:56pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Where did it mention that they were three? And show me where Jesus founded Christianity? The Zoroastrians are monotheist. In fact Zoroastrianism is believed to be the world’s first monotheistic religion, predating Judaism.You mean the Hebrew God that the Magi didn't believe in used them to spread the word to other culture...? According to various traditions, the Magi returned to the East and were eventually baptized by Saint Thomas the Apostle and are still regarded by some churches as Christian saints. They were also inspirational to the establishment of early church in Syriac and Persian region.You need to show us the verse for all these. So now that I answered your question, can u be honest enough to reply mine.They didn't worship a human baby in a manger! They were idol worshippers who saw his star! Magians no dey worship human! They were Persians who study stars or are your saying Jesus is their Ahura Mazda? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 3:50pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Then they worshiped the divinity in Jesus. That's your answer. They acknowledged the Godhead divinity in baby Jesus and bow down to him. So all the Muslims argument of Mary taking care of God, God coming out of woman's private part is nonsense. Mary took care of baby Jesus and not God. You confirmed it yourself. Stop using your mouth to attract curse upon yourself by talking heresy. Regarding God using magi to spread the word. Sheba spread God's monotheism to Ethiopia. Balaam was meant to do the same but his greed won't allow him. The magi believed in monotheism and God directed them to know the only true God. Shikenah. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 5:31pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
SIRTee15: This your divinity is in the seeing of a star right by non-Christians idolaters? Lol! Laughable! So all the Muslims argument of Mary taking care of God, God coming out of woman's private part is nonsense. Mary took care of baby Jesus and not God.Of course that's inane, illogical and irrational. You confirmed it yourself. Stop using your mouth to attract curse upon yourself by talking heresy.What did i confirmed? Regarding God using magi to spread the word. Sheba spread God's monotheism to Ethiopia.Even if the Magi believed in monotheism they still were not Jews nor Christians! Rest bro! Those Magis are Idolaters! Jesus is not Ahura Mazda that is worshiped in Zoroastrianism! If God could use non-Christians/Jews to spread monotheism then he won't have killed many in the Old testament! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 7:16pm On Jun 16, 2023 |
AntiChristian: See Muslim calling Zoroastrian idolaters. To us Christians, U Muslims are more pagans than Zoroastrian. Not only are u guys pagans but big time idolaters, 2ce a year u must go to Mecca to kiss black stone, u can't pray unless u face the Mecca. U people engage in daily ritualistic routines just because u want to pray. Muhammed sold a scam to u people about a god called Allah. Who is he? A god that has a shin and 2 right hands. The Almighty God, the God of the bible is a spirit. An invisible God. Zoroastrian was the first monotheistic religion in the world- the believe in One God. They are definitely not idolaters in the true sense of the world. God can use non Jews to spread his word and fulfil his prophecy. God used king Cyrus of Persia to restore Judah and encouraged the scribes to compile the biblical texts. Is he a Jew. Same for king Darius. What about queen Sheba who took the true God to Ethiopia. If u want to talk about killings in the old testament, open a different topic for that. Don't be jumping from one topic to another. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Benfaco: 12:04am On Jun 17, 2023 |
The love of God for us John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. When Adam sinned, he lost the direct access he initially had with God. (Genesis 3) God decided to send his only begotten son (Jesus) to pay the price for our sins on the cross of calvary because of his love for us. When Christ resurrected, he restored all privileges that we once had and brought redemption to us all. All we need is to believe that he died for our sin and has once again granted us direct access with God. No longer through an intermediary! (Mathew 27:50-53). Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. If our earthly parents care so much for us, how much more our father in heaven! (Luke 11:11-13). God’s love for us is infinite. He has promised to supply all our needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. (Philipians 4:19). Prayer of Salvation Lord Jesus, I accept and acknowledge you as my personal lord and savior. I sincerely ask that you forgive my sins. Come into my life and pour out your spirit on me. By faith, I receive the promise of the father, which is the holy spirit. (John 14:16) I thank you for the price that you paid for me on the cross of calvary. Thank you for my redemption. I pray that your power, grace and favor will abide with me now and forever more. Amen. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 3:39am On Jun 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: There is no agreement among you, yet you want to make others believe you are the best. You should focus on resolving the division in your camp before spreading your fake religion based on a fake unverifiable poorly-copied book to the world. Some Bible Stories too exists in other books before it. Does that proof that the Bible was copied from those books? Each book in the Bible was obtained from scrolls earlier written by individuals inspired by God. In fact, there are so many scrolls. The 66 or thereabout scrolls were just few of them. We Christians aren't pretending that Bible books descend directly from heaven like you Muslims are pretending. Mohamed copied those texts from the Bible and changed the stories some to suit his selfish interest. Na Paul and your Church father package letters for you as scriptures!Thank God the Bible has a traceable origin. What's the origin of the Quran? Don't even tell me it descended from heaven. . You should feel very stupid if you believe that crappy story. Muslims are the ones who usually call themselves the slaves/servant of Allah. Christians seldom call themselves by such except calling themselves sons of God. A son can be a servant, but a slave can never be a son. Check below for Bible texts that refer to followers of Christ (Christians) as sons of God): He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will. Ephesians 1:5 To redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galatians 4:5-7 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. Romans 9:8 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, John 1:12 See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 1 John 3:1 For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. Galatians 3:26 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. Romans 8:14-19. Dear Abọ̀rìsá Antichristian, don't compare yourselves to Christians. We are children of God, while you are a slave of your idol called allah, the idol worshipped in Mecca before Mohamed was born. Àsírí ti tú. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 4:06am On Jun 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Tell me what's logical about believing a book descending from heaven according to a prophet without prophecy and a prophet that no one knew about until he started spreading his religion by committing murder. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 6:42am On Jun 17, 2023 |
SIRTee15: You're free to regard us as anything you like. You can't do worse that Paul in his letters turned scriptures! But must you guys mix lies into your speech just to defend yourself? I have never being to Mecca 2ce as you have said we must go! Your God that Moses saw face to face is an invisible God? Same God Jacob fought and won? You're simple pathetic! Catholism and Christianity is paganism! Christmas, Xmas tree and father Christmas (foreign masquerade) is paganism! Holy communion where you eat bread and wine thinking you're eating Jesus's body and drinking his like cannibals is paganism! Even the Christian belief of vicarious atonement is paganism! Trinity is paganism! God turned man is paganism! What's the name of their God? Is it Jesus? If they worshiped Jesus then Jesus is a Zoroastrian God! Ahura Mazda! So no point in God killing many people in the old testament since he could have used all of them to spread his word! Isn't this foolishness? Why can't God use Sodom and Gomorrah but had to destroy them? You started the diversion by comparing Zoroastrianism to Islam in terms of idolatry mentioning Mecca which wasn't part of your Magi discussion! Seems you can't even follow the rules you're promoting! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 8:37am On Jun 17, 2023 |
tonytony208: You should just google the Prophecy of Muhammad! Why do you guys tell lies anyhow like this? Everything you typed above is false! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 9:02am On Jun 17, 2023 |
tonytony208: Islam is the best! And Muslims are to strive to be the best they can be! We can't all agree completely! But this does not mean that we'll have denominations like Jehovah Witness, Cherubim & Seraphim, Celestial, RCCG, Winners, Christ Embassy, Synagogue, Lord Chosen, Deeper Life, TREM, Harvesters, Dunamis, Roman Catholic, Anglican, CAC, Apostolic Faith, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Seven Days Adventist, and many other Indaboski Pahose!
Stop telling lies! Which 66 scrolls are you talking about? The KJV has 73 Books! You don't even know the meaning of scrolls! The Protestant Bible has 66 Books while some has 73 Books, the difference being the Apocrypha! Some Christians hold that the apocrypha is dubious! The Bible is a dubious Book. No one knows with certainty the author of its books, the copyists at every point in the time, the Church fathers who canonise which books, which book is letters and which is scriptures, why is Luke a historian writing scriptures?
Where is the crappy story? Paul never met Jesus in real life yet he wrote more Books of the New testament than all of Jesus's appointed disciples together! No be juju be this? A son can be a servant, but a slave can never be a son. This is Paul's letter wey you dey call scripture! To redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.Another Paul's letter wey you dey call scripture! Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.How did God birth them? This is simply figurative not literal. This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.Another Paul's letter wey you dey call scripture! But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,Did the people who worshiped God before Jesus become children of God? Everyone who obeys God and follow His command are figuratively His Children. But in reality, God does not need sons/daughter to help or inherit Him. See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him.Same thing! For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.Another Paul's letter wey you dey call scripture! For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.Another Paul's letter wey you dey call scripture! Dear Abọ̀rìsá Antichristian, don't compare yourselves to Christians. We are children of God, while you are a slave of your idol called allah, the idol worshipped in Mecca before Mohamed was born. Na you go be Idol worshiper! I am a Muslim and will die as one! May what you wish for me be your end! May your curse be upon you! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 9:44am On Jun 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian Opuro that lied that Ustaz means professor. I’m still waiting for your evidence. Eru Al-Makireena, the best of the deceivers! 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 10:07am On Jun 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: I hope his prophecy also said Muslim men will start kissing the penis of small boys like him. Your so-called prophet is a sexually immoral dog. There was no boundary to his sexual perversion. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by ItsReal: 10:29am On Jun 17, 2023 |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 11:01am On Jun 17, 2023 |
tonytony208: I just told your brother that you guys type gibberish! So na Holy Spirit inspire these nonsense to you? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 11:34am On Jun 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Show me evidence that Quran is the word of God, dear idol worshipper. 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 12:54pm On Jun 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: U no get talk again but grabbing at straws. However, u need to go and look at what paganism and idolatry. Islam is very close to it. In Christianity, holy communion is not a must. Some Christians don't take it, it all depends on your conviction. Santa Klaus and Christmas tree.....Wetin concern Christianity with tradition. Some church even banned it. My guy, paganism is not believe system but practice and doctrine. Why must u guys circle round a black stone and then kiss it. Why must u face Mecca when praying. What happens if u turn towards Lagos, will Allah accept my worship. All these things are pagan practice. Why must u stand, bend, bow, sit, then stand again and repeat the process in a cyclical fashion. Cant I pray to Allah just standing and close my eyes. Why must I follow a rigid ritualistic pattern. My guy, this is paganism. If someone never tell u, I'm telling u now. It's akin to when sango worshippers pour palm oil on an wooden figure to invoke their gods during libation Anything ritualistic and repetitive practice that's a must for u to invoke a god's name is paganism. Anyway I think we done here. U agreed with me that the wise men didn't worship baby Jesus. Then u denied they worshipped the divinity in Jesus despite evidence they did. Jesus was worshipped thruout his lifetime. As a baby, as an adult during his ministry, after is death and resurrection. Thomas called him my Lord and my God. Even in your Koran, the holy spirit was with Jesus throughout his life on earth. He reach Muhammed's turn, he started confusing holy spirit for angel Gabriel. Personally, I would have said there's no greater scammer like muhammed, but after Nnamdi kanu convinced millions of Nigerians to believe Muhammed is Jibril from Sudan; I think scammers are possible of anything, so long as there are gullible followers. |
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