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aikyg:
It's simple! Turn the other cheek, like Christ said. Eventually your enemy either feels shame and turns their life around or they get caught up by the law. God has his way of protecting his people!

I feel like slapping you!

JasonNOTStatham:

An eye for an eye would throw everything in chaos but, there must be something that says "keep off" don't dare us.

One of the reason why the world is like this today, if we practice eye for eye there will be less hypocrisy and Chaos, at the same time everyone will be at their best behaviour.
Forgiveness is a scam use to deceive the gullible followers

JasonNOTStatham:
Did you read at all? Did I mention worshipping them? Remove your sense from flight mode and respond properly.

as far as this present world 🌎 is concerned, peace can never be an option! Jesus is Lord and wonderful but Christians should throw away Jesus doctrine and put into use Law of Moses and follow foot steps of King David. The world will be a better community. If those believing killing a fellow is acceptable by thier religion, then if they kill one, kill 100 in return and watch peace everywhere.

JasonNOTStatham:

An eye for an eye would throw everything in chaos but, there must be something that says "keep off" don't dare us.

Ephesians 4:26 'Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrat'. Comes to mind.
I think what this is telling us is that we can defend ourselves but not to excess thus sinning.

cornelboy:
Jesus thought his disciples to love their brothers in faith, friends, neighbours and enemies. We are to even pray for our enemies.
It was also repeatedly in the NT that we should take vengeance into our hand that we should leave it for God Almighty who will avenge for us.

So what a true Christian can do during violence and attack is to run. If it's a situation where it's impossible to run, then we can only depend on Jehovah God for a miraculous protection.

Shalom!

Why Peter carry knife dey follow Jesus up and down...

A little touch of violence is what is required.... To prevail in some instances

Kill. We are not mumu.

aikyg:
It's simple! Turn the other cheek, like Christ said. Eventually your enemy either feels shame and turns their life around or they get caught up by the law. God has his way of protecting his people!

And one of His protection was that you should 'carry a sword"
"Cursed is the one who is remiss in doing the work of the LORD, and cursed is he who withholds his sword from bloodshed."

seunlayi:


"Stand up stand up for Jesus,
Ye Soldier of the Cross"

As a soldier of the Cross,
I'll Stand up and face it, this how I'll move

From victory unto victory...
Till every foe is vanquished,

Imagine! People going to a battle yet not expecting nor ready to fight. Even The Commander would have them killed.

cornelboy:
Jesus thought his disciples to love their brothers in faith, friends, neighbours and enemies. We are to even pray for our enemies.
It was also repeatedly in the NT that we should take vengeance into our hand that we should leave it for God Almighty who will avenge for us.

So what a true Christian can do during violence and attack is to run. If it's a situation where it's impossible to run, then we can only depend on Jehovah God for a miraculous protection.

Shalom!

Sorry to say, u sound dumb and more like a coward dan a Christian..

Doubt if you are a true Christian tho..

Dey play.

cornelboy:
Jesus thought his disciples to love their brothers in faith, friends, neighbours and enemies. We are to even pray for our enemies.
It was also repeatedly in the NT that we should take vengeance into our hand that we should leave it for God Almighty who will avenge for us.

So what a true Christian can do during violence and attack is to run. If it's a situation where it's impossible to run, then we can only depend on Jehovah God for a miraculous protection.

Shalom!

What happened to that idiot king who went courting Ahab?

Continue playing with enemies.

Lk. 4:28 All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this.
Lk. 4:29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him down the cliff.
Lk. 4:30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

1Pe. 2:21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.

Ac. 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

2Pe. 1:3 His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his
own glory and goodness.
2Pe. 1:4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

In Luke 4:28-30, we see where all the people in a synagogue (just like a church with many members) were filled with rage towards Jesus and therefore drove him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him down the cliff. But Jesus faced the people and walked right through their midst and went his way. Nobody could even throw a stone at him. Well, 1 Peter 2:21 says that Jesus gave his followers an example, that they should follow in his steps. Jesus himself says in John 14:12 that "anyone" who has faith in him will do all that he did.

The big question is, how many so-called followers of Jesus can render their enemies incapable of hurting them or their interests? That is where the statement of brother Kobojunkie comes in. Brother Kobojunkie is not happy with the state of the Church, especially with so-called men of God who claim to know the way to the kingdom of God and collect lots of money from their followers. The reality is that if the ministry of the men of God have been so effective, Christians should commonly be doing all the works that Jesus Christ did during his earthly ministry. But we don't see that happening, not minding all the financial transactions that go on in the various churches. The Pentecostal movement started on Azusa Street, Los Angeles, California in 1906. Great ministers of the gospel have arisen in the Pentecostal movement over the years that were able to do great miracles. Unfortunately, American ministers have formulated some doctrines that are popular in pentecostal churches today, but which hinder spiritual development in churches. Pentecostal churches in Nigeria follow these doctrines formulated in USA.

One of the greatest ministers of the gospel that ever lived, Smith Wigglesworth, received revelation of a great end-time revival. He said that the end-time revival will come as a consequence of revival of emphasis on the word of God. Incidentally, some ministers from USA and Europe received revelation in the 1990s that the great end-time revival will start in Nigeria. Zephaniah 3:9,10 talks about this revival and says that Jews residing beyond the rivers of Cush will be responsible for spearheading the revival. It's actually people like Kobojunkie, who are zealous for God and are dissatisfied with the current church system that will start the great end-time revival.

Back to the topic of this thread, Jesus Christ was able to do the works that he did because God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and power. Every true follower of Jesus Christ is already anointed with the Holy Spirit, otherwise the person does not belong to Jesus Christ (Ro. 8:9). What is lacking in followers of Jesus Christ that make them unable to do all that he did is divine power. 2 Peter 1:3 says that the divine power has given us everything we need. The divine power can render our enemies incapable of hurting us or our interests, but that can only happen if we are able to operate the divine power. God has definitely given the Church His divine power, but it is like gifting a farmer in Benue State a helicopter that can only carry one person (the pilot). How is the Benue farmer ever going to ride in the helicopter?

Jn. 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

Jn. 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.

John 14:12 says, "anyone who has faith in me". John 1:12 says that those who receive him are given power to become sons of God. Many people make the mistake of thinking that the "him" in John 1:12 is Jesus, forgetting that up to that point, the book of John is talking about the Word. In John 1:14, the Word became flesh, which simply means that the Word possessed the man Jesus. In John 14:10, Jesus says that the words he said were not his own, but rather it was the Father living in him doing His work. The Father living in him is the Word. Therefore John 14:12 is saying that anyone who has faith in the Word shall do all the works that Jesus Christ did during his earthly ministry. Compare that with the revelation that Smith Wigglesworth had, that the great end-time revival will happen as a result of revival of emphasis on the word.

If we have enough faith in God's word, we shall have power to become like Jesus Christ.

Kei144:
..The big question is, how many so-called followers of Jesus can render their enemies incapable of hurting them or their interests?...

When you are trying to help a people do you go to them to start fighting with them? You people need understanding

Like in the days of old...

Kobojunkie:
This is where you know how useless religion is. So, your mogs and pastors who collect money from you all cannot provide you the protection you require, yet you continue to worship them. Well, the only option left is to depend on your government but how many of you pay taxes or pay attention to the political and economic situation in your communities? You all know so much about the business of your pastors and mogs but not that, sadly!

What's the business of heavenly citizens and worldly matters?

According to JWs, "they're no part of this world" .

Me be like: abeg make I hia word...

Run

Funny...
Are Christians another species entirely? yeye question..

As a human, how should you react when under attack?

Lemme gih you advice...

If the said attacker carry gun. Just surrender if you're not confident of disarming him.
But if a novice points gun at you and dares to come too close and you trust your skills enough, baba, disarm the mumu and beat the living hell out of him. And I'll add that if it's in a secret location, do humanity a favor and end him sharpaly then discharge....

But if na ordinary pako the attacker carry, shame on you if you give in easily...

All in all, as a human, do not surrender your life to any attacker unless the situation is entirely hopeless.

May hopeless situation not be ya portion.

Say amen..

Like someone quoted you in the first page, I think you're out of point, you are filled of hatred.

Kobojunkie:
This is where you know how useless religion is. So, your mogs and pastors who collect money from you all cannot provide you the protection you require, yet you continue to worship them. Well, the only option left is to depend on your government but how many of you pay taxes or pay attention to the political and economic situation in your communities? You all know so much about the business of your pastors and mogs but not that, sadly!

God bless you!

BoldBrainz:


I feel like slapping you!

In this case , a Christian is expected to pray, receive grace and fight physically,,
It's only the living that worships God ..

If Izreal relied only on prayers and fasting they would have no land today , prayer and fasting is good because it will get the attention of God most high who will empower you to go for war and act physically,,
One will not lift a weapon before me with the intention of using it and you expect me to pray at that moment, that is foolishness, God himself may be unhappy with you especially when you have a defending weapon at your disposal..
Christianity isn't foolishness, read the scripture will understanding

Our defense is the most lethal if we should use it but for the sake of love we won't use it

Why did Christ not carry a sword while he was being crucified? He was teaching us how to handle persecution.

Dtruthspeaker:


And one of His protection was that you should 'carry a sword"
"Cursed is the one who is remiss in doing the work of the LORD, and cursed is he who withholds his sword from bloodshed."

fredoooooo:

One of the reason why the world us like this today, if we practice eye for eye there will be less hypocrisy and Chaos, at the same time everyone will be at their best behaviour.
Forgiveness is a scam use to deceive the gullible followers

Too much forgiveness is been taken advantage of! There are things that are pardonable but, taking the lives of others or destruction of property and other grievous situation... one have to defend themselves someway somehow. I agree with you, if christians behave the same way some other religion are behaving; the would be daily curfew... I'm afraid they my limit all religion.

JasonNOTStatham:

An eye for an eye would throw everything in chaos but, there must be something that says "keep off" don't dare us.

Come to Kaduna state or plateau state and I will show u how we defend ourselves against persecution from the other side!

Nursepepeye:
as far as this present world is concerned, peace can never be an option! Jesus is Lord and wonderful but Christians should throw away Jesus doctrine and put into use Law of Moses and follow foot steps of King David. The world will be a better community. If those believing killing a fellow is acceptable by thier religion, then if they kill one, kill 100 in return and watch peace everywhere.

Did you remember the reaction from Peter when they was about to seize Jesus, of course man must defend themselves and their loved ones.

"Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my
Father, and he shall presently give me more than
twelve legions of angels?"

They have never seen Jesus fight before, they think he is weak but, he didn't come to this world to fight us. The thing is , we cannot be folding hands and saying it is well, we will pray for you and not put in work of defense.

Hanndye:

Ephesians 4:26 'Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrat'. Comes to mind.
I think what this is telling us is that we can defend ourselves but not to excess thus sinning.

Don't you think we are at disadvantage? The Mosaic law was less forgiven compare to Jesus love, love, love.

Dtruthspeaker:


What happened to that idiot king who went courting Ahab?

Continue playing with enemies.

Even Jesus ran for his life.
Jehovah witnesses strictly follow Jesus's teachings.
Do you have problem with Jesus's teachings?

Oj100baba:

Come to Kaduna state or plateau state and I will show u how we defend ourselves against persecution from the other side!

K - States are not favourable zone, it is very risky...

JasonNOTStatham:
Did you read at all? Did I mention worshipping them? Remove your sense from flight mode and respond properly.

To Worship God is to trust and obey God. You folks trust and obey your pastors so I indicated this in my response. Is that so wrong?

cornelboy:

Even Jesus ran for his life.
Jehovah witnesses strictly follow Jesus's teachings.
Do you have problem with Jesus's teachings?

Yet He went to Jerusalem, the capital and base of His enemies?

Go and pray for understanding as Jude advjced.

Smitaro100:

Sorry to say, u sound dumb and more like a coward dan a Christian..
Doubt if you are a true Christian tho..
Dey play.

Who's a true Christian?

You sound like a comedian