spongeisback:
Martinez19, this guy over here has HIV and according to him he was "healed" by pastor Chris.

Hopefullandlord, hardmirror, frosbel1, seun, and all well meaning Nigerians. HIV is not a death sentence but not taking your drugs and chasing an illusion is.

Unfortunately, a lot are under such illusion.

Martinez19:
Unfortunately, a lot are under such illusion.

I don't know why but I feel so sorry for him. My sister was also "healed" of fibrosis by Chris, I warned her and she didn't listen even when she's was in pains she kept on declaring, last month I caught her taking pain killers I just shook my head. Guess what? She is finally going to be operated on Tuesday.

I wish he can understand. I don't hate him.

spongeisback:


I don't know why but I feel so sorry for him. My sister was also "healed" of fibrosis by Chris, I warned her and she didn't listen even when she's was in pains she kept on declaring, last month I caught her taking pain killers I just shook my head. Guess what? She is finally going to be operated on Tuesday.

I wish he can understand. I don't hate him.

A lot are like that. I was once like that but fortunately, I never had any terrible illness that required me to applied such faith. Lucky me.

Remembering SirJohn truth about Christ Embassy. The most successful thread on Nairaland ever!

A very instructive thread indeed. Hope some of the gladiators will return and just say hello.

Chris Oyakhilome is still in business though despite his ruined reputation.

What a surprise? This morning I was thinking about why we don’t have any investigation into claims of healing in some churches. I’m glad to read this.

Such a revealing thread.

Sadly I too was a victim of what I can only call the greatest scam in the modern day history of the Pentecostal church. A well played out scam which is enabled by the likes of deaconess Gbadamosi, Brother Dele, Pastor Shola, Reverend Owase, Reverend Tom and no other person but pastor Chris. I experienced his scam all the way back in 2005 and had I not known the Lord, I sincerely would have walked away from the faith. Before you start reading, I ask that you speak to the Lord and as a believer expect him to give you answers. He's your father, so asking him to help you know truth is part of his will. I only could tell one person in the world about my experience that night after a build up from the so called healing school. I later on recounted it to one other person, but sadly they were too fragile and such a truth would break their bubble, so they refused to hear anything. Eventually they came round to knowing that it was all true. I had always wondered why women could get raped and not speak, but abuse is something that takes years to speak about. Some of you wonderful sisters who were abused have never spoken about it, and some of you sick men who have abused other ladies sometimes live in fear of your victims speaking out one day. Weirdly, some do speak out and also some don't. Some of you men are actually in churches and walk around almost free, and if this can happen to guilty men, imagine the support a ministry like Christ has in suppressing claims made against them. From thousands of brainwashed members, to a media empire. Let's not forget that these are media ministries which have one way traffic, you only see what they want you to see. I wish I get to meet sir John one day, for he is truly a blessing to those who seek truth. Sinach and all the rest of the families are also fully aware of the scams they portray to thousands of innocents and an audience wanting to be deceived. It's no wonder the ministry operates a system of nepotism and it reigns in that place. From brothers, to sister in-laws, to all you can name, you find the whole lot there. A system where total allegiance is required to continue fooling millions of people. Only a handful of people would even dare bring these accusations before the Lord, but would rather scream words like envy, bitterness etc. I do not know how the cry of people for justice has turned to bitterness, I guess only under Christ Embassy. The same behaviour was revealed when their beloved mama in the Lord Reverend Anita decided to say adiós to the madness going on there. One of the only people allowed to climb the stage of meetings and wear the white suit, was suddenly called bitter by those who would have rolled over the floor Kandahaying and kabashing in so called other tongues, had she touched them. Suddenly, simply because pastor Chris portrays her as not valuable, like zombies they cast her away. The very same woman they had boldly told people had enough grace to live seperately from her husband. When people began to question the separate lives of the top echelon of Christ embassy, the new policy was pushed on to have certain church workers in different branches, simply to take heat off the questions about the marriage. A few weeks to the announcement of the divorce, the ministry pushed out a statement saying nothing was wrong, but I guess time was the best revealer of truths. At each phase, sadly the members morph into defenders of what ever line the ministry goes in, whether right or wrong. Continued...

Having gone to the healing school at Alausa Ikeja, it used to be held in the main ground of an auditorium that had some sort of zinc structure with pillars on it. The scam of the healing school is such that the victim is the one who uses their hands to shoot themselves in the foot. It is carefully scripted so that the victim makes himself a target if he tries to speak up. Most other ministries apply the same method whenever anyone tries to speak against them and expose their tricks. I went to the healing school for an ailment and had always followed pastor Chris since the late 90's. The first part of the healing school is where you are interviewed and details of what is wrong is written and take note off. A video is made of each participant, stating thier names, Thier ailments, how long for etc. (Three major videos form part of the intricate scam which is used to fool the world and possible hold its victims to Ransom). This here is the first phase of the scam. Those attending the healing school have to sign confidentiality forms stating not to speak of events at the healing school. You are then told to attend classes etc, and there are different groups of people within the healing school. Those with visible ailments (totally blind, totally crippled etc), none visible ailments such as HIV, diabetes, partial blindness etc. All sorts of stories are then told to people about the so called miracles that happen there, videos of crusades etc. On the outside it looks innocent and plain until you dig deeper. As you attend the healing school, you are then also told that to secure your healing, pastor Chris must lay hands on you on the night of a major meeting, night of bliss, cross over night etc and that is the pattern. Attendees are told that failure to get hands laid on by pastor Chris would lead to a loss of healing along the line. Pastor Chris comes to the main meeting, they beam the video to the crowd, he lays his hands, so called miracles occur (I'll come to that part) and the innocent victims in that scene shoot themselves in the foot. The usual teachings on confessions are taught throughout the so called time at the healing school. Some people attend the healing school for years and don't get to see pastor Chris, months and weeks depending on how visible their ailments are. The more visible the ailment of the person was who attended the healing school, and the the harder it is for CE to scam people with their tricks, the less likely they were to graduate and get to be prayed for by pastor Chris. People attend the healing school and there is a massive filtering of those who the crowd get to see. As sir John stated, it is what pastor Chris wants you to see that you get to see. Those who can walk, but need wheelchairs as an aid are definitely classed as having passed their course at the healing school and qualified to meet pastor Chris. Those without visible ailments are also classed as having passed their course and qualified to meet pastor Chris. Topics such as how to receive your helaling are looked at and general scriptures on healing etc. Confession and acts of faith are taught to people. Let's touch on the recieving part which plays into the script. The sick are told of how to respond when pastor comes into the room and how to receive their healing. Don't just stand there when he comes into the hall of the healing school, you have to learn how to receive a miracle. Don't stiffen your body but let the anointing flow. Faith calls the things that be not as though they are. When he lays hands on you, jump around, celebrate, scream I am healed, even though your body might not seem healed. Anchor yourself on this part and go through healing school videos to see how they celebrate when they are touched by pastor Chris. With some woman in the background, you hear things like "the man of God walks into the room and lays hands on them, she falls on the ground, they are healed. Suddenly they stand up and are healed. They jump around, they wave their hands in the air praising God. I'm quite sure we've seen this many times. Regarding falling, look up the ministries of Peter popoff who was exposed as using an earpiece to receive information on the sick from his wife, the info he passed on as words of knowledge were from prayer cards the sick had filled at healing classes, prior to the main meeting where they were to be healed. They fell under the supposed power, and were being deceived right under their noses. This video is only 9 minutes long max, so please watch it..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjpcBL98qWA .

Look also at Darren Browns programme where he fools people in a city that he was a travelling evangelist. You can watch the first five minutes, then move to 1:hr 4 mins



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuP5uOI7Xwc .


Don't forget people got saved at these meetings where crookery and all sorts were being carried out. Peter popoff was a major healing evangelist in the 80's and 90's and it took an unbeliever to pop that bublle which fooled others. He was a regular on Christian TV across the world and had thousands at his meetings. I am not against healing, and I must state that as one who has deep workings of other major healing ministries on earth, I'm a firm believer of healing when pure, and not what is pushed through at CE. Some would say Hinn was at CE embassy, but sadly if only they knew why and at what financial cost? Let's not forget Reverend Anita had just left the scene, people were beginning to ask questions and the theory of innocent by association of hanging around good folks came in. Same happened to the church in Abuja, pastor bling bling. The scandals hit his church, Hinn goes there and all sins are forgiven, but at what financial price did he show up to at Christ embassy? Prior to Hinn coming to CE, no material or item of Hinn was pushed to CE members until after reverend Anita left the scene. More of a diversion and a smokescreen from the matters at hand. Hardly any third party preacher was allowed to come to Christ embassy during its history and members were brainwashed into not going to other people's meetings. How many of you CE members went to Hinns meeting in 2004 in Lagos? Continued....

Let's go back to the healing school in which students graduate coincidentally on big nights of meetings. The only thing I won't take away, was that one or two people seemed to have improved while they were there, and I literally mean one or two and nothing more than that. These individuals on the eve of the main night, were told they had to give honour to whom it was due, if not the healing would leave them and pastor Chris had to lay hands on them to seal their healings. They were told stories of folks who felt they were improving, left before pastor could lay hands on them and because pastor wasn't honoured, they fell sick later on. Give honour to whom it is due was the scripture and you guessed it right. One person on a wheelchair was told they had to be wheeled in the way they first came in, hang around the crowds somewhere and get up when a supposed word of knowledge was said by pastor. A lot didn't feel comfortable being given crutches to use and so forth, but who cares what they think, there's the big show to put on and a baying crowd to feed. The night before the healing school, students are told they have to confess any sins they might have spoken against Christ embassy or pastor Chris in person. Told they had to honour him if they were better and get off wheelchairs and crutches as a sign of honouring the supposed MOG. You actually have to be there to believe it, and you look back asking yourself, could this really be happening.

So let's look at the wonderful night of the so called healings. Pastor Chris comes into the venue, the crowd go wild, he is driven to the healing school section where only selected members who fit the script are allowed to be seen by him, and I happened to be one of them. Those who can get out of their wheelchairs as an aid are included in those who he gets to pray for on the big night. Without sounding rude, a lot of us Nigerians assume anyone on a wheelchair cannot walk, but it's used the world over to help people move around, even those who can walk to an extent. I guess the lack of sidewalks, pavements and the stigma which means most disabled are hidden, keeps us in the dark about them. He comes out, walks straight to people holding Thier cards and begins to lay hands on them. Those individuals have been told they need to react (won't use the word act) in a certain way to be able to claim their healings. He lays hands on the people and wham they fall (everyone with Darren brown the magician and also Peter popoff fall, as fallings the new style in church), also don't forget it's essential in recieving your healing as you have to not struggle with the anointing. These teachings are embedded into you at the healing school. They get up and as taught in class, they have to call the things that be not as though they were, they have to jump, shout I'm healed etc, as that's how you claim a healing. This lines up nicely with the word of faith movement doctrine, faith, healings etc. The crowd at the stadium or building go haywire and begin to speak in other tongues in an almost mad razzmstazz. That's the second part of the scam all recorded on video. Lest I forget, Pastor Chris returns back to the main stage of the auditorium and begins to call out so called words of knowledge. There's a wheelchair over there. Lo and behold, on the big screen I see those who were sitting next to me for months at the healing school. Reverend Tom, his relative (crimes stay best in family cycles), comes up, "pastor there's a miracle over here" to which Chris replies, "talk to me". Pastor he came here on a wheelchair, he couldn't walk, you gave a word of knowledge, he laid hold on the word of God and now he's walking". "Isn't that wonderful, somebody shout alleluia" are the usual response he gives the baying crowd. Exaggerated cases of people desperate for miracles were called out by the so called Reverend Tom. Pastor, she couldn't see, and I'm sitting there wondering why the lady whose eye sight was slightly better, was being portrayed as healed on the night. I guess being told she might loose her healing plays a part. Deaconess Gbadamosi, Pastor Dele, Pastor Shola are all wonderful recruiters of those who get scammed on this so called glorious night. I guess all of those who purchase the so called healing school magazine and give towards it only help spread the scam to more victims. Continued.....

The third part is equally as sad and the lowest of the low, so I'll deal with that and ask some thought provoking questions to you all. After the so called healings have died down and it's time for the word, if only others could see the faces of those at the healing school. Dejected and confused as to what really is happening, with the very essence of their faith hanging in the balance, they are then gathered into the hall. The sick are told that when pastor lays hands on you, the anointing abides forever, so it's in you for life. It is always stated that no one can come back to the healing school in life again. Similar to the once saved always saved doctrine, you can say once touched by pastor Chris, you're forever loaded. Tales of how people got healed as they left the venue were told to the depressed healing school participants who were now getting worried. Stories of how people received healings weeks after pastor Chris laid hands on them were repeated by Dele, Shola and co. I have to say these are some of the lowest of the low of life there is on earth. The sick are then told they need to keep confessing, speaking in tongues and also see themselves as healed. They are told the best way to see themselves as healed is to make a video of themselves healed, watch it daily and confess in prayers to God. Father God, the same way I see myself as healed in this video, I claim it. Call things that be not as though they were. Those who had polio were told to walk as they normally would, which is crooked, and then to walk as though they were healed, bending their body upright as much as they could and celebrating after walking upright as healed. They did the same with a man blind in one eye, they gave him a set of numbers to remember, got him to read those numbers with his good eye, memorise them, then close the good eye and act as though he could read what was being shown to him. He did just that, while those cameras were blazing, and then he acted as if both his eyes were good he celebrates afterwards. Those with partial hearing who pastor Chris had prayed for etc, also went through the same process. No completely blind person was prayed for by him, as it doesn't suit the script and hence them not qualifying for graduation.

We were told this was a video of faith, and this would be sent to people via DHL within a few days, to help with confessions and faith proclamations. All of a sudden about two weeks after, my phone began to ring, as those videos were all aired on loveworld as genuine healings.

So there you have the fullness of the scam at CE. Never thought I'll bring myself to write about it, but when you've received total healing, you are able to speak about such. Three videos all shot and when required, brought up against those who try and expose them. Have you noticed most ministries have a so called video of people who speak against them?? Just asking.

So here you have it.

First video

The person comes to the healing school, with their own mouth, they are shown stating they are sick, they state where they are from etc and what they want.

Second video

Pastor Chris comes in, lays hands on the victim, he falls as people are told loads of times at the school, he or she gets up, is caught on video jubilating and waving Thier hands shouting they are healed.


Third video

The person showing to the world that the are healed via video of faith they were meant to make to help them see themselves as healed.

If a victim comes up, he or she would be asked simple questions by those who are swayed by the media might of CE. But I thought I saw you on TV, you said you were sick (1st video), pastor came in and laid hands on you and you fell and stood up jumping all over the place (2nd video), and you also showed a demonstration of your healing? (third video)



Have Christ Embassy members ever wondered why pastor Chris cannot minister effectively at any other church? Recently he's been with pastor Hinn in America at his California studio and not a single miracle there? He really has an atmosphere for miracles as I can boldly say they are fake and staged. What sort of Evangelist never has meetings in countries where the system to scam others isn't set up? Have you ever heard of pastor Chris waking up and going to a country where there is no Christ embassy to preach?? He cannot as he doesn't have the setting to scam people. Reinhard Bonnke goes and has been to everywhere there is on earth until he died, same with Hinn, Morris Cerullo etc.

If I was paid to have 5 minutes with this man, I wouldn't. Most of you folks who are at Christ embassy are actually nice, I've had friends from there over the years, but the blindness in following is astounding. Recently you had Hinn around, how many of you could go to a Hinn meeting had he not been opened up to you recently by your GO??

Jesus said go into the world, not countries with Christ embassy church where 80% of people at the meeting are CE members. From members buying Thier rapsodies and giving out free and saying it's the most bought book on earth, which is funny, to other nonsense, you couldn't make it up. When you follow the trail, it always leads down to finances. Finances that 99.9% of church members would never get to see the dinner workings and yet will defend with their lives. From dodgey accounts in the virgin islands, to malpractices in the uk, and talk of sexual deprevity with daily members and female members in South Africa, the list goes on.

Some would argue that certain stones are best left untouched, but put yourself in the position of those who have been affected by this scam. A number of those who were scammed off died not long after in miserly. For some, it is like an old widow who thinks her late husband was the best man on earth, not knowing he had many women at the side and kids. Do you let her enjoy her bliss and utopia and carry on till death, or do you burst that bubble and burst that none existent image the man had with people? Do you look at the wife while making your decision, or the other innocent victims? That's exactly the case with CE.

Go round your branches and show me those who have been gloriously healed that are in attendance? There are simply none anywhere.

How many of you here could scam other this way? We as Christians, we sometimes look at others with the eyes of our innocence, which can be dangerous.

Wake up folks at CE, ask real questions for once in your life and stop morphing to give excuses at each phase serious answers are needed from your ministry. There are hundreds of abused people walking the earth right now without anyone to even talk to, who have been taken advantage of by CE.

No wonder you literally have to be a sheep to follow this religion period.

Truthfullone:
The third part is equally as sad and the lowest of the low, so I'll deal with that and ask some thought provoking questions to you all. After the so called healings have died down and it's time for the word, if only others could see the faces of those at the healing school. Dejected and confused as to what really is happening, with the very essence of their faith hanging in the balance, they are then gathered into the hall. The sick are told that when pastor lays hands on you, the anointing abides forever, so it's in you for life. It is always stated that no one can come back to the healing school in life again. Similar to the once saved always saved doctrine, you can say once touched by pastor Chris, you're forever loaded. Tales of how people got healed as they left the venue were told to the depressed healing school participants who were now getting worried. Stories of how people received healings weeks after pastor Chris laid hands on them were repeated by Dele, Shola and co. I have to say these are some of the lowest of the low of life there is on earth. The sick are then told they need to keep confessing, speaking in tongues and also see themselves as healed. They are told the best way to see themselves as healed is to make a video of themselves healed, watch it daily and confess in prayers to God. Father God, the same way I see myself as healed in this video, I claim it. Call things that be not as though they were. Those who had polio were told to walk as they normally would, which is crooked, and then to walk as though they were healed, bending their body upright as much as they could and celebrating after walking upright as healed. They did the same with a man blind in one eye, they gave him a set of numbers to remember, got him to read those numbers with his good eye, memorise them, then close the good eye and act as though he could read what was being shown to him. He did just that, while those cameras were blazing, and then he acted as if both his eyes were good he celebrates afterwards. Those with partial hearing who pastor Chris had prayed for etc, also went through the same process. No completely blind person was prayed for by him, as it doesn't suit the script and hence them not qualifying for graduation.

We were told this was a video of faith, and this would be sent to people via DHL within a few days, to help with confessions and faith proclamations. All of a sudden about two weeks after, my phone began to ring, as those videos were all aired on loveworld as genuine healings.

So there you have the fullness of the scam at CE. Never thought I'll bring myself to write about it, but when you've received total healing, you are able to speak about such. Three videos all shot and when required, brought up against those who try and expose them. Have you noticed most ministries have a so called video of people who speak against them?? Just asking.

So here you have it.

First video

The person comes to the healing school, with their own mouth, they are shown stating they are sick, they state where they are from etc and what they want.

Second video

Pastor Chris comes in, lays hands on the victim, he falls as people are told loads of times at the school, he or she gets up, is caught on video jubilating and waving Thier hands shouting they are healed.


Third video

The person showing to the world that the are healed via video of faith they were meant to make to help them see themselves as healed.

If a victim comes up, he or she would be asked simple questions by those who are swayed by the media might of CE. But I thought I saw you on TV, you said you were sick (1st video), pastor came in and laid hands on you and you fell and stood up jumping all over the place (2nd video), and you also showed a demonstration of your healing? (third video)



Have Christ Embassy members ever wondered why pastor Chris cannot minister effectively at any other church? Recently he's been with pastor Hinn in America at his California studio and not a single miracle there? He really has an atmosphere for miracles as I can boldly say they are fake and staged. What sort of Evangelist never has meetings in countries where the system to scam others isn't set up? Have you ever heard of pastor Chris waking up and going to a country where there is no Christ embassy to preach?? He cannot as he doesn't have the setting to scam people. Reinhard Bonnke goes and has been to everywhere there is on earth until he died, same with Hinn, Morris Cerullo etc.

If I was paid to have 5 minutes with this man, I wouldn't. Most of you folks who are at Christ embassy are actually nice, I've had friends from there over the years, but the blindness in following is astounding. Recently you had Hinn around, how many of you could go to a Hinn meeting had he not been opened up to you recently by your GO??

Jesus said go into the world, not countries with Christ embassy church where 80% of people at the meeting are CE members. From members buying Thier rapsodies and giving out free and saying it's the most bought book on earth, which is funny, to other nonsense, you couldn't make it up. When you follow the trail, it always leads down to finances. Finances that 99.9% of church members would never get to see the dinner workings and yet will defend with their lives. From dodgey accounts in the virgin islands, to malpractices in the uk, and talk of sexual deprevity with daily members and female members in South Africa, the list goes on.

Some would argue that certain stones are best left untouched, but put yourself in the position of those who have been affected by this scam. A number of those who were scammed off died not long after in miserly. For some, it is like an old widow who thinks her late husband was the best man on earth, not knowing he had many women at the side and kids. Do you let her enjoy her bliss and utopia and carry on till death, or do you burst that bubble and burst that none existent image the man had with people? Do you look at the wife while making your decision, or the other innocent victims? That's exactly the case with CE.

Go round your branches and show me those who have been gloriously healed that are in attendance? There are simply none anywhere.

How many of you here could scam other this way? We as Christians, we sometimes look at others with the eyes of our innocence, which can be dangerous.

For those who think it's all a story of gloom and doom, by God's awesome grace I've moved on to a greater ministry that CE couldn't even compare to. Wake up folks at CE, ask real questions for once in your life and stop morphing to give excuses at each phase serious answers are needed from your ministry. There are hundreds of abused people walking the earth right now without anyone to even talk to, who have been taken advantage of by CE. I've moved on to a position of ministry only some would dream of and ministry is awesomely beautiful when truly seen. In talking of levels some of you would shudder at if you know what levels, without going into details for many reasons.. privacy, security etc.

Let's go back to the healing school in which students graduate coincidentally on big nights of meetings. The only thing I won't take away, was that one or two people seemed to have improved while they were there, and I literally mean one or two and nothing more than that. These individuals on the eve of the main night, were told they had to give honour to whom it was due, if not the healing would leave them and pastor Chris had to lay hands on them to seal their healings. They were told stories of folks who felt they were improving, left before pastor could lay hands on them and because pastor wasn't honoured, they fell sick later on. Give honour to whom it is due was the scripture and you guessed it right. One person on a wheelchair was told they had to be wheeled in the way they first came in, hang around the crowds somewhere and get up when a supposed word of knowledge was said by pastor. A lot didn't feel comfortable being given crutches to use and so forth, but who cares what they think, there's the big show to put on and a baying crowd to feed. The night before the healing school, students are told they have to confess any sins they might have spoken against Christ embassy or pastor Chris in person. Told they had to honour him if they were better and get off wheelchairs and crutches as a sign of honouring the supposed MOG. You actually have to be there to believe it, and you look back asking yourself, could this really be happening.

So let's look at the wonderful night of the so called healings. Pastor Chris comes into the venue, the crowd go wild, he is driven to the healing school section where only selected members who fit the script are allowed to be seen by him, and I happened to be one of them. Those who can get out of their wheelchairs as an aid are included in those who he gets to pray for on the big night. Without sounding rude, a lot of us Nigerians assume anyone on a wheelchair cannot walk, but it's used the world over to help people move around, even those who can walk to an extent. I guess the lack of sidewalks, pavements and the stigma which means most disabled are hidden, keeps us in the dark about them. He comes out, walks straight to people holding Thier cards and begins to lay hands on them. Those individuals have been told they need to react (won't use the word act) in a certain way to be able to claim their healings. He lays hands on the people and wham they fall (everyone with Darren brown the magician and also Peter popoff fall, as fallings the new style in church), also don't forget it's essential in recieving your healing as you have to not struggle with the anointing. These teachings are embedded into you at the healing school. They get up and as taught in class, they have to call the things that be not as though they were, they have to jump, shout I'm healed etc, as that's how you claim a healing. This lines up nicely with the word of faith movement doctrine, faith, healings etc. The crowd at the stadium or building go haywire and begin to speak in other tongues in an almost mad razzmstazz. That's the second part of the scam all recorded on video. Lest I forget, Pastor Chris returns back to the main stage of the auditorium and begins to call out so called words of knowledge. There's a wheelchair over there. Lo and behold, on the big screen I see those who were sitting next to me for months at the healing school. Reverend Tom, his relative (crimes stay best in family cycles), comes up, "pastor there's a miracle over here" to which Chris replies, "talk to me". Pastor he came here on a wheelchair, he couldn't walk, you gave a word of knowledge, he laid hold on the word of God and now he's walking". "Isn't that wonderful, somebody shout alleluia" are the usual response he gives the baying crowd. Exaggerated cases of people desperate for miracles were called out by the so called Reverend Tom. Pastor, she couldn't see, and I'm sitting there wondering why the lady whose eye sight was slightly better, was being portrayed as healed on the night. I guess being told she might loose her healing plays a part. Deaconess Gbadamosi, Pastor Dele, Pastor Shola are all wonderful recruiters of those who get scammed on this so called glorious night. I guess all of those who purchase the so called healing school magazine and give towards it only help spread the scam to more victims. Continued.....

Please can you date these events?

When did it happen?

This man should be reported to the authorities o

VBCampaign:
Please can you date these events?
When did it happen?
This man should be reported to the authorities o

What man please?

MuttleyLaff:
What man please?

Christian Oyakhilome

VBCampaign:
Christian Oyakhilome

Thank you. I thought as much, but didn't want to take the guess. Just continue to pray for the man, his missus and grown up kids too.

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you. I thought as much, but didn't want to take the guess. Just continue to pray for the man, his missus and grown up kids too.

What’s the point in continuing to pray for him etc? You’ve been continually praying for Nigeria, what’s the point? For change to happen, action should and must be taken.

nnenneigbo:
What’s the point in continuing to pray for him etc?
You’ve been continually praying for Nigeria, what’s the point?
For change to happen, action should and must be taken.

"One day, Jesus told His disciples a story,
to show that they should always pray and never give up"
- Luke 18:1

Therefore confess your sins to each other,
pray for each other, so that you may be healed.
The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective"
- James 5:16

The point is, we ought to continually be praying for Nigeria, to confess her sins, so for anticipated and/or expected change to happen dahling,

MuttleyLaff:
"One day, Jesus told His disciples a story,
to show that they should always pray and never give up"
- Luke 18:1

Therefore confess your sins to each other,
pray for each other, so that you may be healed.
The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective"
- James 5:16

The point is, we ought to continually be praying for Nigeria, to confess her sins, so for anticipated and/or expected change to happen dahling,

Akuko ifo( story story story)

Nigeria sins? Lmao. You religious lot are hilarious.

nnenneigbo:
Akuko ifo (story story story)
Nigeria sins? Lmao.

Yup. Sins. The story of Naija's life

nnenneigbo:
You religious lot are hilarious.

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YOU ARE EXPECTED TO BE RELIGIOUS!
There isn't anything hilarious in being religious.
Being religious especially sef, to your neighbour.
Abeggy swerve jor.

Religious people, so obsessed with sin yet they sin pass.

nnenneigbo:
Religious people, so obsessed with sin yet they sin pass.

Both religious and irreligious people sin - at the same rate.

But the man in Christ has all his sins forgiven.

That's the difference.

That's the gospel.

That's our hope.

VBCampaign:


Both religious and irreligious people sin - at the same rate.

But the man in Christ has all his sins forgiven.

That's the difference.

That's the gospel.

That's our hope.

And who the heck cares, if you want, let Jesus come and die again, this time forever, no one cares.

The person that created sin, is the biggest dinner, who forgives him/her? God’s creator forgives god I guess.

nnenneigbo:


And who the heck cares, if you want, let Jesus come and die again, this time forever, no one cares.

The person that created sin, is the biggest dinner, who forgives him/her? God’s creator forgives god I guess.

You should understand that your life philosophy, irreligion, is as much your right as those who choose to be religious. But when you disparage religious people in general, you leave yourself to scorn also.

The thread is not criticizing religion. It is criticizing false religion.

VBCampaign:


You should understand that your life philosophy, irreligion, is as much your right as those who choose to be religious. But when you disparage religious people in general, you leave yourself to scorn also.

The thread is not criticizing religion. It is criticizing false religion.

Wow, coming from someone who believes that everyone else, who doesn’t believe is hell bound, that’s rich, coming from you.

Seeing as your religion also was spread through violence, please, turn the mirror on yourselves first.

nnenneigbo:


Wow, coming from someone who believes that everyone else, who doesn’t believe is hell bound, that’s rich, coming from you.

Seeing as your religion also was spread through violence, please, turn the mirror on yourselves first.

Thanks for the compliment. Thank you for also getting the message.

nnenneigbo:
And who the heck cares, if you want, let Jesus come and die again, this time forever, no one cares.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks and the hand types out.

nnenneigbo:
The person that created sin, is the biggest dinner, who forgives him/her?

Just darkness is the absence of light, so sin is the absence of showing honour and reverence to God

nnenneigbo:
God’s creator forgives god I guess.

God is Self Existent, not that you know what means

VBCampaign:
You should understand that your life philosophy, irreligion, is as much your right as those who choose to be religious. But when you disparage religious people in general, you leave yourself to scorn also.

The thread is not criticizing religion. It is criticizing false religion.

nnenneigbo:
Wow, coming from someone who believes that everyone else, who doesn’t believe is hell bound, that’s rich, coming from you.

Seeing as your religion also was spread through violence, please, turn the mirror on yourselves first.

VBCampaign:
Thanks for the compliment. Thank you for also getting the message.

Dont mind her ojaare, especially when its obvious she is cutting off the nose to spite the face

VBCampaign:


Thanks for the compliment. Thank you for also getting the message.

No problem you’re welcomed!

I sure get the message that god of Israel is a scam bestowed unto Africans.

nnenneigbo:
No problem you’re welcomed!
I sure get the message that God of Israel is a scam bestowed unto Africans.

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People don't like the truth.
The truth doesn't taste good and won't stay down when it's a belly full of lies.

MuttleyLaff:
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People don't like the truth.
The truth doesn't taste good and won't stay down when it's a belly full of lies.

I agree, the truth hurts, that’s why you’re refusing to understand you’re just merely indoctrinated.