rhymz: just as islam is for Arabs only. . All of them were imported and forced on black people. That is why I find it dumb that we black people can claim to understand the religion better than the white people that gave it to us.

If you try to analyse objectively you will find out that, there were Black people in arabia when islam started there. And Black people were muslims when Mohammed was reigning mecca, and some of them had some authority in islam which was envied by arabs. Even today there are black imams in the holy mosque of mecca. I am yet to see a black priest leading a prayer in st peter's basilica in vatican, or a black rabi leading a prayer in jewish temple.

For your information, the prayer call which muslims use today world wide was improvised by a blackman.

This is to tell u guys how barbaric this non-catholics can be!!! no catholic church will deny anybody his marriage just because of skin colour! and that pathetic pastor is he -wouldve lost his job if he had proceded with the weeding-.. i wonder what that pastor teaches his church member? he cant even sacrifice his job and ask GOD for a better one which the lord wouldve given to him a 100 fold.

like i pointed out on the other thread- the black excuse thingy is too convenient. I'm sure there's more to the so-called reason.

rhymz: Who is talking about social terms created by white people to describe black people and others white varient that they consider not white enough. Don't you find it funny that black people are called coloured people but on closer observation, you find out that White people are actually the coloured ones here as they change colours based on their mood. Anyway sha, that is a trivia.
About God being non-white, you realy believe that bullshit? Have you been to the Roman Catholic Church before? Whose images do they portray as God, my black a$$? Even in philosophical concepts, white is Good, Godly and Saintly, angels are beautiful white looking creatures with features similar to the whiteman's and a white shiny halo hovering over his head where as black represents everything bad and evil, the Demons are black ugly creatures with horns wrecking havoc. And you question where rednecks find justifications for their actions?
Come on, Let's talk about it.

I AGREE WITH YOU PERFECTLY, because i have not seen God myself Physically, even the 'ALL KNOWING WHITEMEN' that claim to know what he looks like have not seen him, everybody is just painting illlusional Picture which would be obviously racially biased, i aslo agree with your point that ALL 'RELIGIONS ARE RACIALLY DISTORTED' even muslim use their life savings to travel to Mecca just to stone a BlackBox assumed to be Housing the devil...TO be sincere 'GOD IS NOT IN RELIGION' even jesus said not all that call him God would enter his kingdom, so if God is not In religion where is God, well God lies in the Deepest Foolishness of Man called 'Faith', which begs the Question What the 'F' is Faith, faith is Believing in the existence of a God even though Reasonable facts challenge that, Faith is Knowing God is Just even though he seems like a 'WHITE GOD' FAITH IS THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISHNESS, that why God himself said the foolishness of God[Faith} is wiser than the Wisdom of Men [Reasoning],i was once an atheist like You, and believe me it takes a Mentally sound mind to Be atheist, and if anyman has not for oce doubted the existence of God then he cannot truly Know him...so i understand your perspective as an atheist,But i'd like to implore you to Give faith a chance to Show you God,seriously In your spare time Go to Faith terbancle [Oyedepo's Church] and listen him talk about faith and God,
if at the end of the service you are still not Convinced there is God.. pls go on with atheism....that aside angels are not actually White, according to angelic encounter in space by some astronauts ANGELS are actually Orange in colour,not white which is still arguable because the Human eye Can only See limited Variations in colour,my personal conclusion is that Gender, Race, Colour, Time, Space, Matter are all Illusions that exist only in our universe and was created by An Almighty God which we constantly Doubt becasue he deson not Make sense!!........ tell me what you think plus dnt mind Guyz bashing you on here most people have never stopped to question the existence of god rather they Just shippishly follow RELIGION

http://www.angelreach.com/2011/05/astronauts-report-seeing-angels-in.html

Ezeufi:

If you try to analyse objectively you will find out that, there were Black people in arabia when islam started there. And Black people were muslims when Mohammed was reigning mecca, and some of them had some authority in islam which was envied by arabs. Even today there are black imams in the holy mosque of mecca. I am yet to see a black priest leading a prayer in st peter's basilica in vatican, or a black rabi leading a prayer in jewish temple.

For your information, the prayer call which muslims use today world wide was improvised by a blackman.

God bless u, may u see the light of the day through out ur life, may ur enemies never see the light of the day.

still waiting for the day when a man will be judged by the content of his character and not by his skin color, political position, religious titles, ethnicity,tribe and wealth, for the eyes of God does not see all this, he sees not an arab, a black, an asian, a white etc he sees not if u call urself a muslim, a jew, a christian, a budhist etc, he sees only man, and if we claim we love God and can not love our fellow man, then we know not God.

ozoebuka1: This is to tell u guys how barbaric this non-catholics can be!!! no catholic church will deny anybody his marriage just because of skin colour! and that pathetic pastor is he -wouldve lost his job if he had proceded with the weeding-.. i wonder what that pastor teaches his church member? he cant even sacrifice his job and ask GOD for a better one which the lord wouldve given to him a 100 fold.

Which is better, refusing black people to wed in the church or turning a blind eye to numerous randy pastors who sodomize little children whom they are supposed to protect?

Didn't pope john paul II apologise for the role church played in transatlantic slavery? Im not talking about catholic individuals here, Im talking about catholicism as an institution. The catholic church owned plantations where black slaves worked in them.

Ezeufi:

If you try to analyse objectively you will find out that, there were Black people in arabia when islam started there. And Black people were muslims when Mohammed was reigning mecca, and some of them had some authority in islam which was envied by arabs. Even today there are black imams in the holy mosque of mecca. I am yet to see a black priest leading a prayer in st peter's basilica in vatican, or a black rabi leading a prayer in jewish temple.

For your information, the prayer call which muslims use today world wide was improvised by a blackman.

DUDE IF ISLAM AS YOU CLAIM IS NOT RACIALLY BAISED, HOW COME MUSLIMS LIKE YOU SAVE SO MUCH MONEY TO TRAVEL TO MECCA, JUST TO STONE A "BLACKBOX" (PLS NOTE THE 'BLACK'}...which is believed to House 'whatever' Whom Nobody have really seen
the point is all religions ESPECIALLY RELIGIONS THAT WERE FORMED CENTURIES AFTHER CHRISTIANITY EXAMPLE 'ISLAM' ARE VERY RACIALLY BIASED, AND THAT INCLUDES EVEN VERY ANCIENT RELIGIONS LIKE HINDU, BUDDUISHM. AM NOT TRYING TO BASH 'ISLAM' BUT FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE "HOW CAN A WHOLE BOOK FALL FROM HEAVEN" MY GUY ABEG WAKEUP FROM YOUR RELIGIOUS SLUMBER,THERE IS A GOD BUT HE IS NOT IN RELIGION

Ezeufi:

If you try to analyse objectively you will find out that, there were Black people in arabia when islam started there. And Black people were muslims when Mohammed was reigning mecca, and some of them had some authority in islam which was envied by arabs. Even today there are black imams in the holy mosque of mecca. I am yet to see a black priest leading a prayer in st peter's basilica in vatican, or a black rabi leading a prayer in jewish temple.

For your information, the prayer call which muslims use today world wide was improvised by a blackman.

Are you high on Alomo Bitters? What kind of garbage Knowledge are you trying to show here. Are you saying black people did not exist when Jesus was in existence or when his forebearers Abraham and Moses were in existence. Do you even understand how the Islam religion spread? The vast majority of early muslim converts were people that were conquered by Mohammed and his Army and forced to convert from their traditional pegan worship and beliefs to a Mohammed created Islam religion. The christian concept is very complex than that. Anyway, the crux of my argument is that while all these religions started, there were black people already in existence who evidently did not have anything to do with all the mainstream religions of Today until they were forced, cajoled and manipulated to accept these religions hence their spread and popularity. Their origins and concept have vague or no relationship with black people of Africa so why make it look like whatever these religions profess is devine and superior to the former beliefs of the conquered converts. Is it because they had the political might to enforce their belief system on others to the point it now seem like thiers is the truth?
If Jesus the son of is portrayd as white, does it not tell the origins already? In china, Bhudda images of God are usually asian looking, aint it? It all points out to the fact that all of these religions including our former traditional African religion all are talking about thesame thing except that the proponents are saying one is superior to the other and all that bullshit.

Aringarosa: What the hey? Satan is rolling and laughing at this. You hypocrites at this Baptist church in Crystal Springs Mississippi, best get your house in order. Showing Non Christian folks out there, who might be interested in learing about Jesus, finding the true path to GOD, What fine upstanding "christians" are all about. Memebers of the church, are not allowed to get married because they are black. Get Freakin real.
Alot of these folks may get turned off to GOD due to your silly Narrow minded ways. As Satan spreads his wings laughing, and flies away. He has a mighty fine house of worship doese't he.

You don't seem to get it. Nazis were predominantly Christian. It did not stop them from following their own particular brand of ideology, did it? Neither did being Christians stop slave traders and the slave owners. Neither did it stop the Spaniards from almost wiping out the population of natives in South America and the Islands.

afam4eva:
You're right but pls stay on topic.

LOL. Does that accusation touch you?

logica: LOL. Does that accusation touch you?

Why should it?

afam4eva:
Why should it?

LOL. Let's not go off topic.

If this incident had happened in a muslim country this thread wd hav reached dozens of pages with hypocrites saying all sorts of rubbish againt islam. Hypocrites, let's here u bash xtianity cos of d action of a few xtians?

donniemc:

DUDE IF ISLAM AS YOU CLAIM IS NOT RACIALLY BAISED, HOW COME MUSLIMS LIKE YOU SAVE SO MUCH MONEY TO TRAVEL TO MECCA, JUST TO STONE A "BLACKBOX" (PLS NOTE THE 'BLACK'}...which is believed to House 'whatever' Whom Nobody have really seen
the point is all religions ESPECIALLY RELIGIONS THAT WERE FORMED CENTURIES AFTHER CHRISTIANITY EXAMPLE 'ISLAM' ARE VERY RACIALLY BIASED, AND THAT INCLUDES EVEN VERY ANCIENT RELIGIONS LIKE HINDU, BUDDUISHM. AM NOT TRYING TO BASH 'ISLAM' BUT FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE "HOW CAN A WHOLE BOOK FALL FROM HEAVEN" MY GUY ABEG WAKEUP FROM YOUR RELIGIOUS SLUMBER,THERE IS A GOD BUT HE IS NOT IN RELIGION

Your argument that islam is racially biased because people have to save so much to travel to much is futile and refuted as follows.

1. According to islam, no one has to save so much to go to mecca. Hajj is only compulsory to those who are rich. A richman does not have to save so much so he can go to mecca.
2. The black stone was there in the kaaba before even mohammed was born. The stone being black has nothing to do with african race, and as Im sure you understand that africans were called black people later in life by europeans, after the europeans discovered what they called "dark continent".
3. Islam does not have one person who is the leader of every muslim in the world. Christians have, and that person MUST be white person. (Unless you are one of those who believe that osama bin laden is the leader of all muslims). You CANNOT be a legitimate roman catholic or an anglican without following a white pope or a white king/queen of England. But you can be a muslim without following any arab on planet earth.
4. If the pope visit nigeria, he has the fundamental authority of leading the prayer as the head of the church in the nigerian church. If Imam of mecca visits nigeria he does not have any religious authority to lead a prayer in a nigerian mosque. The local imam has the authority to lead the prayer.
5. Mohamed told muslims in mecca that "go and search for education even if education is available in china". If islam was based on racial superiority of arabs, arabs wouldn't have been told to travel as far as china in search for education.
6. As I said in my early post, whenever you hear a prayer call which muslims use; be you brazilian, arab, oyinbo, zulu, maori, or whatever, that call was put together by a blackman.

I hope this will have enlighten you and see the difference between islam and christianity with regard to racial superiority.

mu2sa2: If this incident had happened in a muslim country

you mean in a black country ?

Please please please, those using this to justify Islam should keep quiet. We are aware that the Arabs taught the Europeans about slavery. For long they were the slavery exponents.

donniemc:

I AGREE WITH YOU PERFECTLY, because i have not seen God myself Physically, even the 'ALL KNOWING WHITEMEN' that claim to know what he looks like have not seen him, everybody is just painting illlusional Picture which would be obviously racially biased, i aslo agree with your point that ALL 'RELIGIONS ARE RACIALLY DISTORTED' even muslim use their life savings to travel to Mecca just to stone a BlackBox assumed to be Housing the devil...TO be sincere 'GOD IS NOT IN RELIGION' even jesus said not all that call him God would enter his kingdom, so if God is not In religion where is God, well God lies in the Deepest Foolishness of Man called 'Faith', which begs the Question What the 'F' is Faith, faith is Believing in the existence of a God even though Reasonable facts challenge that, Faith is Knowing God is Just even though he seems like a 'WHITE GOD' FAITH IS THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISHNESS, that why God himself said the foolishness of God[Faith} is wiser than the Wisdom of Men [Reasoning],i was once an atheist like You, and believe me it takes a Mentally sound mind to Be atheist, and if anyman has not for oce doubted the existence of God then he cannot truly Know him...so i understand your perspective as an atheist,But i'd like to implore you to Give faith a chance to Show you God,seriously In your spare time Go to Faith terbancle [Oyedepo's Church] and listen him talk about faith and God,
if at the end of the service you are still not Convinced there is God.. pls go on with atheism....that aside angels are not actually White, according to angelic encounter in space by some astronauts ANGELS are actually Orange in colour,not white which is still arguable because the Human eye Can only See limited Variations in colour,my personal conclusion is that Gender, Race, Colour, Time, Space, Matter are all Illusions that exist only in our universe and was created by An Almighty God which we constantly Doubt becasue he deson not Make sense!!........ tell me what you think plus dnt mind Guyz bashing you on here most people have never stopped to question the existence of god rather they Just shippishly follow RELIGION

http://www.angelreach.com/2011/05/astronauts-report-seeing-angels-in.html

Nice analysis there. Like you have said, the whole concept of God is rooted in Faith( the belief of the unseen ) however, it does not change the fact that such belief that can't be proven is baseless and unfounded, at best, it is delusional.
I am sure if there exists a God that created us, he would want us to know him and keep his commandments. But the concept of faith based proof of God runs contrary to logic. How can you serve somebody or something that you can't tell how he looks, where he is, with exact locations. Why wont he want us to know or see him if he created us from his own image? Is he shy? I don't even want to talk kind of Justice system attributed to these God Concept; where it is believed that people who do not Obey him will eternally burn in hell, how? Do spirit have feelings to feel the pains of being eternally burnt in hell. And those that eventually go to "heaven" what exactly do they do for the rest of their life in eternity, sing and praise God? For what? To feed his Godly ego? Does he need humans to serve him for him to be God? This whole concept seem far-fetched and very silly to contemplate.

rhymz: Are you high on Alomo Bitters? What kind of garbage Knowledge are you trying to show here. Are you saying black people did not exist when Jesus was in existence or when his forebearers Abraham and Moses were in existence. Do you even understand how the Islam religion spread? The vast majority of early muslim converts were people that were conquered by Mohammed and his Army and forced to convert from their traditional pegan worship and beliefs to a Mohammed created Islam religion. The christian concept is very complex than that. Anyway, the crux of my argument is that while all these religions started, there were black people already in existence who evidently did not have anything to do with all the mainstream religions of Today until they were forced, cajoled and manipulated to accept these religions hence their spread and popularity. Their origins and concept have vague or no relationship with black people of Africa so why make it look like whatever these religions profess is devine and superior to the former beliefs of the conquered converts. Is it because they had the political might to enforce their belief system on others to the point it now seem like thiers is the truth?
If Jesus the son of is portrayd as white, does it not tell the origins already? In china, Bhudda images of God are usually asian looking, aint it? It all points out to the fact that all of these religions including our former traditional African religion all are talking about thesame thing except that the proponents are saying one is superior to the other and all that bullshit.

Lol, I don't know what Alomo Bitters is; but if its good and legal then Im for that.
What I am saying is: When islam started in mecca, black people were part of and were neither superior nor inferior members within islam. When christianity started in the same deserts black people were not part of it. In fact even the oyinbo who brought it to africa was not part of it. That is the difference, Islam came to afrca from its origin. Christianity came to Africa from NOT its origin. The europeans who brought christianity to Africa did not really bring christianity but they brought europistianity. If indeed jesus was born in the deserts where only palm trees fluorish, why then do nigerian christians celebrate the birth of jesus with pine trees which are european trees? I have met christians families in nigeria who not only buy a european chrismass tree, but also puts some fluffy cottons on the tree to symbolise snow or snow flakes. Im sure you know that jesus had never seen snow in his life time broda.

Ezeufi:

Lol, I don't know what Alomo Bitters is; but if its good and legal then Im for that.
What I am saying is: When islam started in mecca, black people were part of and were neither superior nor inferior members within islam. When christianity started in the same deserts black people were not part of it. In fact even the oyinbo who brought it to africa was not part of it. That is the difference, Islam came to afrca from its origin. Christianity came to Africa from NOT its origin. The europeans who brought christianity to Africa did not really bring christianity but they brought europistianity. If indeed jesus was born in the deserts where only palm trees fluorish, why then do nigerian christians celebrate the birth of jesus with pine trees which are european trees? I have met christians families in nigeria who not only buy a european chrismass tree, but also puts some fluffy cottons on the tree to symbolise snow or snow flakes. Im sure you know that jesus had never seen snow in his life time broda.

LOL. So Uthman dan Fodio is the originator of Islam? Dude, Orthodox Christianity had been in Ethiopia much longer than most parts of Europe; and last I checked Ethiopia is in Africa. You are merely speaking of Mainstream Christianity here.

rhymz: Does he need humans to serve him for him to be God?

If you watch the movie "Wrath of the Titans" you will understand the concept: Zeus spoke about "the power of the gods reducing as the people stopped worshiping them". Think about it. That is exactly what is happening (myth or no myth) as people get more rational and less and less people worship the gods. The influence of the gods dwindle into oblivion until the gods "die" as was shown in the movie. The point of pushing people to continue to worship like zombies is to keep the gods "alive"; to keep these religions alive.

logica:
LOL. So Uthman dan Fodio is the originator of Islam? Dude, Orthodox Christianity had been in Ethiopia much longer than most parts of Europe; and last I checked Ethiopia is in Africa. You are merely speaking of Mainstream Christianity here.

Cool bro, I forgot that its ethiopians who brought christianity to Nigeria. Even though Im yet to meet one nigerian who is adherence to ethiopian orthodox church.

Ezeufi:

Your argument that islam is racially biased because people have to save so much to travel to much is futile and refuted as follows.

1. According to islam, no one has to save so much to go to mecca. Hajj is only compulsory to those who are rich. A richman does not have to save so much so he can go to mecca.
2. The black stone was there in the kaaba before even mohammed was born. The stone being black has nothing to do with african race, and as Im sure you understand that africans were called black people later in life by europeans, after the europeans discovered what they called "dark continent".
3. Islam does not have one person who is the leader of every muslim in the world. Christians have, and that person MUST be white person. (Unless you are one of those who believe that osama bin laden is the leader of all muslims). You CANNOT be a legitimate roman catholic or an anglican without following a white pope or a white king/queen of England. But you can be a muslim without following any arab on planet earth.
4. If the pope visit nigeria, he has the fundamental authority of leading the prayer as the head of the church in the nigerian church. If Imam of mecca visits nigeria he does not have any religious authority to lead a prayer in a nigerian mosque. The local imam has the authority to lead the prayer.
5. Mohamed told muslims in mecca that "go and search for education even if education is available in china". If islam was based on racial superiority of arabs, arabs wouldn't have been told to travel as far as china in search for education.
6. As I said in my early post, whenever you hear a prayer call which muslims use; be you brazilian, arab, oyinbo, zulu, maori, or whatever, that call was put together by a blackman.

I hope this will have enlighten you and see the difference between islam and christianity with regard to racial
superiority.

MY DEAR FRIEND BEHOLD YOU HAVE EXHIBITED A HIGH FORM OF IGNORANCE...to start with EUROPE DID NOT START A FEW HUNDRED YEARS AGO LIKE ISLAM INFACT EUROPE PREDATES ISLAM WITH ALMOST A MILLENIUM.PEOPLE LIKE ALEXANDER THE GREAT WERE EUROPEANS, AND ALEXANDER AND THE GREAT ROMAN EMPIRE EXISTED WAY BEFORE MOHAMED, PLUS THE CONCEPT OF ANYTHING BLACK BEING EVIL ONCE AGAIN DID NOT ORIGINATE FROM EUROPE THAT CONCEPT WAS BORROWED FROM EGYPT IN AFRICA DURING THE REIGN OF ANAKATHON THE HUSBAND OF 'NEFERTITI' AND ONCE AGAIN MOHAMED WHO STARTED 'ISLAM' WAS BORN ALMOST A THOUSAND AND A HALF YEARS AFTER THAT CONCEPT HAD CIRCULATED THE WORLD SO WIHTOUT A DOUBT THAT 'BLACKBOX' WAS SOMEHOW RACIALLY INSPIRED, AND JUST INCASE YOU DONT KNW, ISLAM IS ONE OF THE LAST RELIGIONS TO BE FORMED, IT ONLY PREDATES A NORE RECENT RELIGION
LIKE BUDUIHSM SO MOST OF THE CONCEPT YOU SEE IN THE QURAN WERE BORROWED FROM OTHER RELIGIONS WHICH PREDATED ITS. EVEN THE STONING OF EVIL THINGS WAS A CONCEPT BORROWED FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE CHRISTIANS AND THE ACIENT RELIGION OF HINDUISM...AND AS FOR YOUR PRAYERS DO YOU KNOW ISLAM IS THE ONLY RELIGION IN THE WORLD THAT DEMAND THAT ITS FOLLOWERS MOST PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY, BUT THATZ A TALK FOR ANOTHER DAY...EVEN YOUR QURAN DID NT FALL FROM HEAVEN IT WAS INSPIRED BY MOHAMMED'S WIFE WHO WAS A JEW VAST IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE JEWS, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY GUYZ LIKE MOSES, ABRAHAM ALL THOSE GUYS FOUND IN THE BIBLE ARE SHAMELESLY DUPLICATED IN THE QURAN, AM VERY SORRY THERE IS NOTHING ORIGINAL ABOUT ISLAM, NIETHER DEOS YOUR JIHAD SOUND INSPIRING, THATZ WHY THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS EVERYDAY ARE REDUCING(check world stats), BUT SERIOUSLY I DONT EXPECT YOU TO REASON AT MY LEVEL, IF YOU CAN ENTRUST YOUR ETERNITY TO THE HAND OF A MAN "MOHAMMED" THAT CATEGORICALLY STATES THAT HE HIMSELF DEOS NOT KNOW WHRE HE HIS GOING, THEN I MEAN U CANT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND MY POINT EVEN THOUGHH THEY ARE ARE HISTORICALLY FOUNDED...MY CANDID ADVICE SWITCH TO CHRISTIANITY LIKE MOST OF YOUR CONVERTD BROTHERS, JOIN THE BIG FAMILY THERE ARE TRIPPLE THE NUMBER OF CHRISTIANS ALIVE THAN MUSLIM...NOW INSTEAD OF YOU GUYS TO THINK OF PRESERVING YOUR NUMBERS YOU ARE BUSY BLOWING YOURSELF UP ALL IN THE NAME OF GETTING 7 VIRGINS..BUT SERIOUSLY IS THAT RELIGION SO SENSELESS THAT IT THINKS HEAVEN WOULD BE ALL ABOUT SEX?...LOL

Ezeufi:

Cool bro, I forgot that its ethiopians who brought christianity to Nigeria. Even though Im yet to meet one nigerian who is adherence to ethiopian orthodox church.

Dude, don't make your brain malady too obvious. This is what you said:

That is the difference, Islam came to afrca from its origin. Christianity came to Africa from NOT its origin. The europeans who brought christianity to Africa did not really bring christianity but they brought europistianity

Is Nigeria = Africa or am I missing something? You cannot claim "Islam came to Africa from its origin" when the likes of Uthman dan Fodio was the one spreading the religion in the southern direction. And at the same time, claiming Christianity came only from the Europeans (I have pointed this out with the Ethiopian Orthodox Church). If you have comprehension problems, do not bother responding.

Ezeufi:

Lol, I don't know what Alomo Bitters is; but if its good and legal then Im for that.
What I am saying is: When islam started in mecca, black people were part of and were neither superior nor inferior members within islam. When christianity started in the same deserts black people were not part of it. In fact even the oyinbo who brought it to africa was not part of it. That is the difference, Islam came to afrca from its origin. Christianity came to Africa from NOT its origin. The europeans who brought christianity to Africa did not really bring christianity but they brought europistianity. If indeed jesus was born in the deserts where only palm trees fluorish, why then do nigerian christians celebrate the birth of jesus with pine trees which are european trees? I have met christians families in nigeria who not only buy a european chrismass tree, but also puts some fluffy cottons on the tree to symbolise snow or snow flakes. Im sure you know that jesus had never seen snow in his life time broda.

while I find your post funny and interesting, I still think you are stating personal opinions and not fact.
Just like Christianity, the origin and concept of Islam did not have any serious relationship with Black African people worthy of note and recorded in the Koran and hadith.
They are even more racist than the whites. They actually started the concept of slavery even before the white man.
Infact, Islam is a religion, whose sacred writings contain explicit denigrating remarks about African people. Here are some remarks from your darling prophet Mohammed, himself about black people
Hadith; vol.9:162,163: Muhammad warned that dreams of black women meant disease was forthcoming. "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'" ~Ishaq 243 "Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full- faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them." ~Tabari II:21
na this kind person na im you wan take make mouth? He sounded like a member of KKK in the 4th century.

donniemc:

MY DEAR FRIEND BEHOLD YOU HAVE EXHIBITED A HIGH FORM OF IGNORANCE...to start with EUROPE DID NOT START A FEW HUNDRED YEARS AGO LIKE ISLAM INFACT EUROPE PREDATES ISLAM WITH ALMOST A MILLENIUM.PEOPLE LIKE ALEXANDER THE GREAT WERE EUROPEANS, AND ALEXANDER AND THE GREAT ROMAN EMPIRE EXISTED WAY BEFORE MOHAMED, PLUS THE CONCEPT OF ANYTHING BLACK BEING EVIL ONCE AGAIN DID NOT ORIGINATE FROM EUROPE THAT CONCEPT WAS BORROWED FROM EGYPT IN AFRICA DURING THE REIGN OF ANAKATHON THE HUSBAND OF 'NEFERTITI' AND ONCE AGAIN MOHAMED WHO STARTED 'ISLAM' WAS BORN ALMOST A THOUSAND AND A HALF YEARS AFTER THAT CONCEPT HAD CIRCULATED THE WORLD SO WIHTOUT A DOUBT THAT 'BLACKBOX' WAS SOMEHOW RACIALLY INSPIRED, AND JUST INCASE YOU DONT KNW, ISLAM IS ONE OF THE LAST RELIGIONS TO BE FORMED, IT ONLY PREDATES A NORE RECENT RELIGION
LIKE BUDUIHSM SO MOST OF THE CONCEPT YOU SEE IN THE QURAN WERE BORROWED FROM OTHER RELIGIONS WHICH PREDATED ITS. EVEN THE STONING OF EVIL THINGS WAS A CONCEPT BORROWED FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE CHRISTIANS AND THE ACIENT RELIGION OF HINDUISM...AND AS FOR YOUR PRAYERS DO YOU KNOW ISLAM IS THE ONLY RELIGION IN THE WORLD THAT DEMAND THAT ITS FOLLOWERS MOST PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY, BUT THATZ A TALK FOR ANOTHER DAY...EVEN YOUR QURAN DID NT FALL FROM HEAVEN IT WAS INSPIRED BY MOHAMMED'S WIFE WHO WAS A JEW VAST IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE JEWS, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY GUYZ LIKE MOSES, ABRAHAM ALL THOSE GUYS FOUND IN THE BIBLE ARE SHAMELESLY DUPLICATED IN THE QURAN, AM VERY SORRY THERE IS NOTHING ORIGINAL ABOUT ISLAM, NIETHER DEOS YOUR JIHAD SOUND INSPIRING, THATZ WHY THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS EVERYDAY ARE REDUCING(check world stats), BUT SERIOUSLY I DONT EXPECT YOU TO REASON AT MY LEVEL, IF YOU CAN ENTRUST YOUR ETERNITY TO THE HAND OF A MAN "MOHAMMED" THAT CATEGORICALLY STATES THAT HE HIMSELF DEOS NOT KNOW WHRE HE HIS GOING, THEN I MEAN U CANT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND MY POINT EVEN THOUGHH THEY ARE ARE HISTORICALLY FOUNDED...MY CANDID ADVICE SWITCH TO CHRISTIANITY LIKE MOST OF YOUR CONVERTD BROTHERS, JOIN THE BIG FAMILY THERE ARE TRIPPLE THE NUMBER OF CHRISTIANS ALIVE THAN MUSLIM...NOW INSTEAD OF YOU GUYS TO THINK OF PRESERVING YOUR NUMBERS YOU ARE BUSY BLOWING YOURSELF UP ALL IN THE NAME OF GETTING 7 VIRGINS..BUT SERIOUSLY IS THAT RELIGION SO SENSELESS THAT IT THINKS HEAVEN WOULD BE ALL ABOUT SEX?...LOL

The only true thing in your post is that "I cannot reason at your level". Since when can facts argue against opinions?

Max'diamond:
This is nt strange.we all kw dat there are always a protocol 2 follow wen anybody intended to do anything in "white land".it is nt lyk Nigeria here where things are done anyhw without following protocol.

Broda,please enlighten us on the protocols....The last time i read the Bible,Jesus Christ said you must love your neighbor as yourself irrespective of her skin or color and he also said that if you have love amongst yourselves then people will know that you are my disciples.....It`s been a long time i read the Bible though,so please i stand to be corrected. The world would have been a better place without these nonsense called religion and non existence god.

Ezeufi:

Your argument that islam is racially biased because people have to save so much to travel to much is futile and refuted as follows.

1. According to islam, no one has to save so much to go to mecca. Hajj is only compulsory to those who are rich. A richman does not have to save so much so he can go to mecca.
2. The black stone was there in the kaaba before even mohammed was born. The stone being black has nothing to do with african race, and as Im sure you understand that africans were called black people later in life by europeans, after the europeans discovered what they called "dark continent".
3. Islam does not have one person who is the leader of every muslim in the world. Christians have, and that person MUST be white person. (Unless you are one of those who believe that osama bin laden is the leader of all muslims). You CANNOT be a legitimate roman catholic or an anglican without following a white pope or a white king/queen of England. But you can be a muslim without following any arab on planet earth.
4. If the pope visit nigeria, he has the fundamental authority of leading the prayer as the head of the church in the nigerian church. If Imam of mecca visits nigeria he does not have any religious authority to lead a prayer in a nigerian mosque. The local imam has the authority to lead the prayer.
5. Mohamed told muslims in mecca that "go and search for education even if education is available in china". If islam was based on racial superiority of arabs, arabs wouldn't have been told to travel as far as china in search for education.
6. As I said in my early post, whenever you hear a prayer call which muslims use; be you brazilian, arab, oyinbo, zulu, maori, or whatever, that call was put together by a blackman.

I hope this will have enlighten you and see the difference between islam and christianity with regard to racial superiority.

u just highlighted the diff btw islam and roman catholism.

rhymz: while I find your post funny and interesting, I still think you are stating personal opinions and not fact.
Just like Christianity, the origin and concept of Islam did not have any serious relationship with Black African people worthy of note and recorded in the Koran and hadith.
They are even more racist than the whites. They actually started the concept of slavery even before the white man.
Infact, Islam is a religion, whose sacred writings contain explicit denigrating remarks about African people. Here are some remarks from your darling prophet Mohammed, himself about black people
Hadith; vol.9:162,163: Muhammad warned that dreams of black women meant disease was forthcoming. "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'" ~Ishaq 243 "Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full- faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them." ~Tabari II:21
na this kind person na im you wan take make mouth? He sounded like a member of KKK in the 4th century.

Hadith; is something anyone can make one. In fact some hadith is like the twitter of those day. find me one line in Qur'an that says blacks are inferior, and i will bedome a christian on that day.

The story of Ham, Shem and jafet is not in qur'an. Its in the bible.

logica: If you watch the movie "Wrath of the Titans" you will understand the concept: Zeus spoke about "the power of the gods reducing as the people stopped worshiping them". Think about it. That is exactly what is happening (myth or no myth) as people get more rational and less and less people worship the gods. The influence of the gods dwindle into oblivion until the gods "die" as was shown in the movie. The point of pushing people to continue to worship like zombies is to keep the gods "alive"; to keep these religions alive.

Mr Logica are you fvcking kidding Me . . Lol. . I can't believe you posted this. So the whole aim of creating human beings and forcing them to do his will is to feed on his Ego. So in essense, his power lies in our ability to feed his Ego, failure to do so might result to his death, No? So we can actually kill God according to you. What if singing and serving him endlessly is not what one of the beings in heaven wishes to do? In other words, God does not condole free will. Am learning more about this God that is fast seeming like a mere Human being, he is not infallible afterall, neither is he omnipotent or any of those attributes that man can not attribute to himself but A God-like being, something that exist in the figment of their imahination.

Ezeufi:

The only true thing in your post is that "I cannot reason at your level". Since when can facts argue against opinions?

MY DEAR FRIEND, I PROVIDED HISTORICAL PROOFS TO BACK MY "OPINIONS" AND YOU PROVIDED POINTLESS RELIGIOUS INSPIRED RANTINGS TO BACK YOUR "FACTS"...BUT REALLY AM NOT SUPRISED ISLAM HAS NOT YET PRODUCED 1 INTELLECTUALLY SOUND PERSON, hatz why most inventions in the world were by christian atheist or guyz from eastern religions,but seriously if all mohammed can promise you is 'seven Virgins' for sacrificing your precious Life, well i think it sums what your religion is all about "SEX',VIOLENCE AND SLAVERY..........IF AM CORRECT YOU ARE A SLAVE OF gOD ABI?....slaves dnt think they ony take orders....lol

rhymz: Mr Logica are you fvcking kidding Me . . Lol. . I can't believe you posted this. So the whole aim of creating human beings and forcing them to do his will is to feed on his Ego. So in essense, his power lies in our ability to feed his Ego, failure to do so might result to his death, No? So we can actually kill God according to you. What if singing and serving him endlessly is not what one of the beings in heaven wishes to do? In other words, God does not condole free will. Am learning more about this God that is fast seeming like a mere Human being, he is not infallible afterall, neither is he omnipotent or any of those attributes that man can not attribute to himself but A God-like being, something that exist in the figment of their imahination.

Everything you wrote is correct (apart from the "creating human beings" part). Or what do you think I was trying to say?