Please move it to where it belongs. The OP is one mischevious fellow. The phony thread went from "Africans perception dominance" to "secession talk".

Onlytruth: So, I have finally concluded that the GREATEST LIE ever told in the Nigerian nation (from amalgamation till date) is that Igbo is dominating anybody.

That is a GREAT LIE from the pit of hell, and GOD will punish any group that uses this lie to deny hardworking Igbo people their fair share of proceeds from their hard labor.

Any group or individual continuing to peddle this lie will NEVER see progress!

Isee!

Signed,

Onlytruth.

Ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

damn! so i was right!

PhysicsQED

The problem is, Africans, for whatever reason, are currently more nepotistic than other groups. Some people just can't play by the rules.
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@^^^ Well, Nepotism happens where persons have a heightened sense of obligation to their own group irrespective of others. It is almost akin to being "tribal". It is very apparent amongst "Africans" because there are no cohesive "nation" states in Africa yet, besides perhaps, the North African countries and may be "Ethiopia" in the making. We have many "nations" within Countries such as NIgeria, so loyalty/nepotism for cronies or group is inevitable/expected. It appears that most of us have taken it for granted that as "Nigerians", we are a "Nation" but are we? We are in a Country without any emotional connection whatsoever beyond our own "small"/mini national/ethnic groups. Presently, there is nothing to engender national pride/attachment to the place called Nigeria other than the fact that some of our people(land of ancestors) were born in Naija. Merit obviously will be expected/required within our "mini" nations but definitely not outside- Centre/cities. Rules only apply where we have/share a common "national" world view and aspirations borne out of collective desire to do the right thing because it is good for everyone irrespective of your background/ethnicity/gender. We know the right thing to do but our inherent loyalty to "group" beclouds our judgement to do what is right for the public [/b]good instead of the small family or ethnic good. We cannot really blame anybody but our [b]LAZY, Wicked and Unimaginative/Uncreative power elite(politicians. They do not desire to build/create a [b]Nation [/b]out of the country called Nigeria. Chaos is profitable and less demanding on brain work for a tiny minority hence nepotism/corruption thrives. Merit demands a certain modicum of Standards or Measurements agreed upon by the society/group. There are no such well defined standards in most African countries.

dayokanu:

Foot soldiers dont win wars, Intelligent officers do

The Yorubas were the commanders

Adekunle, Alabi-Isama, Obasanjo etc

Dayolodo,

Your attempt to look historical intelligent is a bad taste of joke. I suggest a bloody numbskull such as you does not take a leap in darkness. Gideon Alabi-Isama is not a Yoruba, agbaya.

dayokanu:

Germans surrendered to Eisenhower and to Zhukov none of them was French

Biafra were humiliated by Adekunle and surrendered to Obasanjo

A loudmouthed dingbat such as you appears to be growing foolish every day. Biafra did not surrender to Obasanjo but to Nigerian armed forces. Obasanjo stood in for Nigerian armed forces due to military parlance and protocol, olodo.

PhysicsQED

Second, Europe is divided mostly (but not exclusively or perfectly) along "ethnic" lines. So apparently those "inter-ethnic" wars you're referring to were for a reason.
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@^^ Gbam You are very correct!!!
Europeans have managed to create/mould "Nations" out of so called "inter=ethnic" wars and impose one(single) national language and a times culture as in the UK, Germany, Sweden, France and Spain et al. In Nigeria/Africa we have not managed to "subjugate" other ethnic groups/impose a single national language. Only Ethiopia, Eritrea and perhaps Somalia when they get their "Act" together, have the potential of creating Nation states like the Europeans have. The "tragedy" of Africa is our earlier "empires" were benevolent and did not impose forcefully their language on the conquered lands/subjects just like the Arab invaders have done in North Africa.

Dede1:


A loudmouthed dingbat such as you appears to be growing foolish every day. Biafra did not surrender to Obasanjo but to Nigerian armed forces. Obasanjo stood in for Nigerian armed forces due to military parlance and protocol, olodo.

as far as he is concerned, biafra only fought against adekunle and obasanjos 3mco
he forgets about the 1st and 2nd divisions under abokis
let him even tell us have many yaribas were in the 3mco
funny lots

@Op

I think it is the fear of the "unknown" and also "culture". We cannot deny the fact that some African cultures are inherently "Merit" conscious/predisposed than some. To talk/discus such an "emotive" subject will open one to all manner of accusations from ethnocentric/uninformed warriors to genuinely fearful persons borne out of concern for their "tiny" group/domination. "Merit" does not happen or cannot be expected in an environment where there are a multiplicity of definitions of "right" and "wrong" derived from different worldviews/standards/perceptions. "Feudalists" see things differently from "Republicans" or "Independents". None is perfect nor the correct route to nirvana either hence dialogue is almost mandatorynecessary for us all to clear the "warts" in our eyes.

the weird thing is that greatest whiners about domination are the ops tribe

cheikh: @Op

I think it is the fear of the "unknown" and also "culture". We cannot deny the fact that some African cultures are inherently "Merit" conscious/predisposed than some. To talk/discus such an "emotive" subject will open one to all manner of accusations from ethnocentric/uninformed warriors to genuinely fearful persons borne out of concern for their "tiny" group/domination. "Merit" does not happen or cannot be expected in an environment where there a multiplicity of definitions of "right" and "wrong" derived from different worldviews/standards/perceptions. "Feudalists" see things differently from "Republicans" or "Independents". None is perfect nor the correct route to nirvana either hence dialogue is almost mandatorynecessary for us all to clear the "warts" in our eyes.

The truth is that all the points you raised are valid. The problem is that they are hardly applicable (IN DEED) in Nigeria. Evil is often infectious and spreads faster than good. That is why there is no evil you will not find in Nigeria, but there are tonnes of good in other countries that are conspicouously missing in Nigeria, from the most ordinary to the most sophisticated good.
Let me illustrate a little.

If a man from a tribe of 10,000 somewhere in Cross rivers state complains about being dominated by say Efik or Ibibio or Annang, or say Igala in Anambra state (a prodominantly Igbo state), your points would stand firm. But how does one explain that an Igbo man in Imo is complaining that Yoruba men are dominating him by dominating the taxi business in Owerri? How can an Hausa man in Kano complain that Igbo is dominating him by dominating textile business in Sabon gari market and similar trades?
The first example carries semblance of genuine concern, while the second examples carry clear signs of stupidity and indolence. But what happens in Nigeria is that the second group joins the first group to complain of the same thing!

Those without genuine grievance joins those whose grievance are born of indolence to complain of being dominated. That is exactly what happened in Biafra and the carpet crossing, and Ahmadu Bellos anti-Igbo worldview. Suddenly a Harold Dappa Biriye and Adaka Boro (Ijaw) joined a Murtala Muhammad (Hausa), and the Northern and some southern minorities to fight against "Igbo domination" in the civil war. Never mind that the two sides have NOTHING IN COMMON except faulse fears. As it was in 1966 (in terms of reality) so it is today. Nothing has changed!

What contemporary Nigerian history has shown, is that a huge majority of those fears were irrational, because Igbo were not dominating anybody in real sense of the word. What happened was that the Hausa lost out due to their inability to adjust to the new culture brought by the British, and because they were armed (composed of majority of lowest rank in the army), convinced and co-opted others (some of who had genuine fears, though the fears never rose to the level of genocidal hate like that nursed by Hausa) into a common hate for Igbo.

This thread was opened to bring out that fallacy and show that merit based achievements were twisted and presented as something bad in order to justify mass murder; was used to entrench a retrogressive culture, and even institutionalizing it through constitutional instrumentation by the name of "quota system" and "federal character".

Ogoni need federal character protection (some form of affirmative action), Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba DO NOT!

Onlytruth

This thread was opened to bring out that fallacy and show that merit based achievements were twisted and presented as something bad in order to justify mass murder; was used to entrench a retrogressive culture, and even institutionalizing it through constitutional instrumentation by the name of "quota system" and "federal character".

Ogoni need federal character protection (some form of affirmative action), Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba DO NOT!

@Op^^ I sincerely assumed that the topic genuinely was about "Merit" and "Nepotism" as troubling issues for us as Africans not about narrow "ethnic" jingoism(Nigeria). I am out! I don't have the strength for such "fights". I thought we were going to engage in perhaps serious "intellectual"/actual issues as it affects our collective well being as Africans.

cheikh: Onlytruth


@Op^^ I sincerely assumed that the topic genuinely was about "Merit" and "Nepotism" as troubling issues for us as Africans not about narrow "ethnic" jingoism(Nigeria). I am out! I don't have the strength for such "fights".

The topic is about MERIT and DOMINATION and how the former is often twisted and presented as the latter.
Sorry you misunderstood.

Bye.

Only a fo*ol will try to reason with the old, loser crackpot @OnlyTruth.

When will you ask your Governors in the South-East what they do with the money allocated to them every month from Abuja? Everyday, complaints on the internet like little girls. Man-up and face your leaders instead of wrongfully blaming others all the time.

I'm glad everyone saw through his deceit. Typical. SMH

^^
All a.s.swipes and old men in dipers should steer clear of this thread.

@Topic

Africa is a generally backward continent, and the easiest way to find out why is to study Nigeria (perhaps the most naturally endowed country in Africa). Nigeria remains (and will remain) a failed state because merit is twisted, repackaged and represented as "domination".

Onlytruth: ^^
All a.s.swipes and old men in dipers should steer clear of this thread.

@Topic

Africa is a generally backward continent, and the easiest way to find out why is to study Nigeria (perhaps the most naturally endowed country in Africa). Nigeria remains (and will remain) a failed state because merit is twisted, repackaged and represented as "domination".

I bet anything you're at least 20 years Older than me, and won't accomplish 1/20th of what I've achieved even if you lived to be 500years old. You know how I know this? Your posts reek of sadness! Your posts always smell of a man who has given up being successful in life and has resigned to dying hopeless, but who---before giving up his putrid soul and going to hell--- has dedicated himself to selling despair, lies, and misfortune to those who will buy it so they can all end up as useless and worthless to Mother Earth as he was.

You're a hopeless case and if nothing else showed it, I'm pretty sure you noticed how everyone that was supposed to engage you in meaningful convo fled after realizing your evil intentions.

Dude, its 5.22pm EST, it should be about the same time in whatever village you reside in in Iowa. If you drive to the international airport business should be brisk around this time since its the start of the weekend. Why don't you get busy and go hustle some fares instead of trying to continue a war that was won and lost over 4 decades ago?

Onlytruth: ^^
All a.s.swipes and old men in dipers should steer clear of this thread.

@Topic

Africa is a generally backward continent, and the easiest way to find out why is to study Nigeria (perhaps the most naturally endowed country in Africa). Nigeria remains (and will remain) a failed state because merit is twisted, repackaged and represented as "domination".

This is wisdom at it's peak.

Kingofass

Yours is a very sad (you won't know this because all your posts show lack of soul) life indeed! Notice that since this thread started, your FIRST POST was to commit ad hominem. It is like you can NEVER pull logic, substance, ideas or real additive opinion from your poor soul. All you do on this forum is to go around like a b,itch in heat seeking male attention.
Can you survive for ONE DAY without a dose of Igbo masculine attention? Obviously not.
Your allegation that you are 20 years younger also shows a pathetic "mother.fukcer" mindset. You are a TYPICAL "mo.ther.fuc.cker" -go and read up where that term comes from.
My 9 year old couson is more matured than you, because he ALWAYS adds to topics. No, not you!

My 9 year old couson is older than your father.

Ewu Yoruba.

Nigeria want to be like america,yet they practice federal character. Maybe,they are mentally retarded afterall.

pazienza: Nigeria want to be like america,yet they practice federal character. Maybe,they are mentally retarded afterall.

Thanks!

Nigeria is either a mentally retarded country or the greatest lie in the history of man.

Onlytruth: Kingofass

Yours is a very sad (you won't know this because all your posts show lack of soul) life indeed! Notice that since this thread started, your FIRST POST was to commit ad hominem. It is like you can NEVER pull logic, substance, ideas or real additive opinion from your poor soul. All you do on this forum is to go around like a b,itch in heat seeking male attention.
Can you survive for ONE DAY without a dose of Igbo masculine attention? Obviously not.
Your allegation that you are 20 years younger also show a pathetic "mother.fukcer" mindset. You are a TYPICAL "mo.ther.fuc.cker" -go and read up where that term comes from.
My 9 year old couson is more matured that you, because he ALWAYS adds to topics. No not you!

My 9 year old couson is older than your father.

Ewu Yoruba.

Like I said, Imbe*cile, scroll back up and see why everyone you tried to involve in your usual nonsensical diatribe fled. I mean, its not like they didn't give you a reason before they gave you the internet version of "Fu*ck off with your madness, bro".

You're a freaking shame! And to even know that your fellow tribesmen voted you as their leader on here.... smh

Loser, have you finished degrading Ogugua88 and telling her how she's less Igbo than you just because she's female? Anuofia! Useless old man. Alambalagada. Pick up your saggy bo*obs and brea*st feed yourself to sleep instead of always coming here trying to ruin future generations like you already ruined yours.

Wow!

P.S: The sickly stray cat on my block is older than your mother, better than your father and more sensible than all your lineage and future generations.

^^
What idea have you added to this topic? Oh I know, "go back to your governors. . . blah".
Would a primary school kid contribute a more brilliant idea than yours? Duh!

Dude get off my thread. Asswipe.

And because I know that you feed off Igbo masculine attention, I will starve you of that henceforth.


IGNORED.

I will return when fellow humans show up.

Signed,

Onlytruth

Onlytruth: And because I know that you feed off Igbo masculine attention, I will starve you of that henceforth.


IGNORED.

This is why most of us think a lot of you have suppressed likeness towards fellow men: WHY CANT YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT WITHOUT REFERENCE TO MALE SE*XUALITY OR ORIFICES?! Just like the gay Malawian and a bunch of others on here; you start losing a battle you brought upon yourself and its on to referring to dic*ks, balls and other male se*xual organs. Its the U.S bro, you're no longer living in the rain forests of Nigeria, you can come out the closet and noone will behead or kidnap you. Its ok, alright?

Onlytruth: Kingofass


My 9 year old couson is more matured than you, because he ALWAYS adds to topics. No, not you!

My 9 year old couson is older than your father.

Ewu Yoruba.

Mr.COUSON, PICK UP A BOOK!

I corroborate with Onlytruth anyway. The abandoned property issue in Port Harcourt for example was used to cause disaffection between Igbos and their brothers from Okrika and backed with a lie that an "Igbo" Bank ACB sponsored Igbos to buy up land at the expense of the indigent Okrikans. While it might be true for the political class, most of the land confiscated were owned by those who had no links to the bank and bought them out of their sweat. The FG used that to twist the loyalty of the minorities to the Biafra struggle and a lot of them bought into it and even believed it till this day.

Abagworo: I corroborate with Onlytruth anyway. The abandoned property issue in Port Harcourt for example was used to cause disaffection between Igbos and their brothers from Okrika and backed with a lie that an "Igbo" Bank ACB sponsored Igbos to buy up land at the expense of the indigent Okrikans. While it might be true for the political class, most of the land confiscated were owned by those who had no links to the bank and bought them out of their sweat. The FG used that to twist the loyalty of the minorities to the Biafra struggle and a lot of them bought into it and even believed it till this day.

The fact that we own 70% of abuja today,shows that whatever we had in ph pre 1970,we acquired by shear hardwork. It's not that the minorities were not aware of this,i don't believe they were deceived by the north,i want to believe that it was their envy, jealousy and laziness that consumed them,the north just gave them fuel to increase the inferno.

Onlytruth: So, I have finally concluded that the GREATEST LIE ever told in the Nigerian nation (from amalgamation till date) is that Igbo is dominating anybody.

That is a GREAT LIE from the pit of hell, and GOD will punish any group that uses this lie to deny hardworking Igbo people their fair share of proceeds from their hard labor.

Any group or individual continuing to peddle this lie will NEVER see progress!

Isee!

Signed,

Onlytruth.

Ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

Goodness gracious!!! Olopa ewo n'tepe. (Policeman, na catch dem say make you catch lawless people, which one be curses na?) dan tselewa

Remove federal character and quota system,enthrone merit,and see what happens. Nigeria in her desperate attempt to cage the igbo spirit,caged herself.

ndu_chucks:

Goodness gracious!!! Olopa ewo n'tepe. (Policeman, na catch dem say make you catch lawless people, which one be curses na?) dan tselewa

ndu_chucks you be real goat. You know say dis kain curse de work pass olopa baton.
Dan iska kawai.

pazienza: Remove federal character and quota system,enthrone merit,and see what happens. Nigeria in her desperate attempt to cage the igbo spirit,caged herself.

Spot on bro.

Abagworo: I corroborate with Onlytruth anyway. The abandoned property issue in Port Harcourt for example was used to cause disaffection between Igbos and their brothers from Okrika and backed with a lie that an "Igbo" Bank ACB sponsored Igbos to buy up land at the expense of the indigent Okrikans. While it might be true for the political class, most of the land confiscated were owned by those who had no links to the bank and bought them out of their sweat. The FG used that to twist the loyalty of the minorities to the Biafra struggle and a lot of them bought into it and even believed it till this day.

This is a typical example of what I've been trying to say. I am happy that with the explosion of information and knowledge which is the product of the internet age, truth will rise from the ashes like the great phoenix.