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Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by HiiiPower(m): 2:10am On Sep 03, 2012
North tackles Yoruba leaders on autonomy
on SEPTEMBER 3, 2012 · in NEWS
12:05 am
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BY CLIFFORD NDUJIHE, SONI DANIEL & HENRY UMORU

…We agree with S-West on six regions — Ohanaeze scribe

LAGOS—NORTHERN leaders, Sunday, spurned Yoruba leaders’ agitation for regional autonomy and a return to the parliamentary system of government, describing the clamour as a recipe for Nigeria’s disintegration.

Yoruba elders under the banner of Yoruba National Assembly, YNA, had after a meeting in Ibadan last Thursday, canvassed a return to the parliamentary system of government and granting of regional autonomy to the South-West.

They also called for removal of the immunity clause for criminal offences; a new Nigeria consisting of a federal government and six regional governments (based on the current six geo-political zones) operating federal and regional constitutions, respectively; and adoption of Regional and State Police force structure among others.

But responding to the development, some prominent northern leaders, who spoke exclusively to Vanguard, kicked against YNA’s call, saying that the agitation would plunge the nation into incalculable crises and hasten her break-up.

However, Secretary-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Chief Nduka Eya, said the demands of the Yoruba leaders were in tandem with the position of Ndigbo, which had been sent to the National Assembly for inclusion in the on-going constitution amendment exercise.

Former Kaduna State Governor, Alhaji Lawal Kaita, said the call for regional autonomy and a return to parliamentary system of government was self-serving and had the semblance of secession.

Kaita said: “I do not really understand what they mean by regional autonomy. They should be bold enough to say that they do not want to be part of Nigeria any longer and stop talking about what does not make sense anymore in the country.

No longer ideal — Kaita
“Regional autonomy and parliamentary system of government can no longer serve a complex society like Nigeria and our founding fathers were wise enough to jettison the system and adopt the present Presidential system, which to all intent and purposes, remains the best for a country like ours,” he noted.

According to the founding member of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, neither the granting of autonomy to any region in the country nor a return to parliamentary system of government would solve the socio-political problems of the nation.

Kaita said that all that was needed to make the presidential system more useful was to strengthen the institutions of government to serve the citizens better and reposition the country as a strong, united nation in the world.


Gen. Mohammed Buhari discussing with National Leader of ACN, Bola Tinubu at a meeting in Abuja
Adding his voice to the debate, National Secretary of the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, Buba Galadima, described any call for regional autonomy as an invitation to the dissolution of the country.

“If they make the mistake to allow the kind of regional autonomy requested by the Yoruba, it is a recipe for the country’s disintegration because of the kind of politics being played in Nigeria. Our political immaturity would lead to dismembering the country as soon as any region is granted autonomy,” the politician noted.

Galadima warned that the country could disintegrate if urgent steps were not taken to address the growing sense of injustice and marginalisation of sections of the country by the government.

He maintained that demands for autonomy and other issues were borne out of perceived injustice and inability of the administration to provide the basic needs of the people.

It’s retrogressive — Haliru Mohammed
In his submission, immediate past Minister of Defence, Dr. Bello Haliru Mohammed described calls for a return to regional structure as retrogressive.

According to him, states replaced the regions because of demands by ethnic nationalities for self-determination, adding that a u-turn to the old structure would be a repeat of the scenario where major ethnic groups like Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo were in total control of the regions and marginalised other groups.

The former Acting National Chairman of the PDP said rather than advocate regionalism what was required of the country now was to sit down and work out the modus operandi of our federation to accommodate all the ethnic diversities without any section feeling dominated.

His words: “Going back to regional structure is going to be retrogressive because states were created because of the demand by ethnic nationalities for self determination. To go back to regional structure where the major ethnic groups like Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo were in complete control of the regions is dangerous.

“General Yakubu Gowon responded to the demands of the minority groups and created states to allow for some level of self-determination for ethnic nationalities. Going back will make major ethnic groups to continue to dominate the minorities. Now, there is some level of equality between the nationalities regardless of the number and size.

“What Nigeria needs now is to sit down and work out our modus operandi of a federation that would accommodate all our ethnic diversities without one section feeling a sense of domination by others. Federating units should be different ethnic nationalities as we have in states. If there is need for creation of more states like in the case of South-East and also to break some of the larger and more populated states in the North and South, that can be accommodated rather than going back to regions.”

However, a former Senator from Kano State, Usman Kabiru Umar, stated that he would support any political restructuring that would bring about a strong, united and progressive Nigeria, where every citizen would have a sense of belonging. “Now, if they say that autonomy and return to parliamentarism would guarantee the promotion of peace, development and a united Nigeria, so be it,”

Indeed, Eya, who spoke in his personal capacity as a public commentator, said the South-West clamour for six regions was sound.

“Before the Presidential system was introduced, we had four regions. The North accepted the regions and we had Parliamentary system. The presidential system is very expensive; if we continue with it, we will soon go bankrupt. The parliamentary system worked for us. Then, if you did not win an election you cannot become a minister. Now the president appoints ministers from everywhere and they are not accountable to the people.

Noting that Ohanaeze had prepared a document on the constitution amendment, he said: “We agree with the South-West on six regions, which should become the federating units. The Federal Government should have nothing to do with state or local government creation.

“There is constant demands for new states and local governments because the military made them avenues for getting more allocation from the centre. Local governments should be states’ creation; they are not federating units. We stand for equity, fair-play and justice. The military gave North undue advantage and they do not want to relinquish it,” he said.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/09/north-tackles-yoruba-leaders-on-autonomy/
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by nduchucks: 2:15am On Sep 03, 2012
Newspapers will name every jick and harry as people who speak for the North to sell newspapers. Nonsense.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Nobody: 2:20am On Sep 03, 2012
Kuli kuli and guguru politics. Nonsense and ingredients.

They are squabbling over a shyt country.

Mttscheww.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Nobody: 2:24am On Sep 03, 2012
Igbos always on agree with Yoruba, anyone else ever notice it grin

Shocking that the North didn't agree with Yorubas this time. lipsrsealed

Wetin dem dey fear?

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Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Nobody: 2:27am On Sep 03, 2012
It’s retrogressive — Haliru Mohammed
In his submission, immediate past Minister of Defence, Dr. Bello Haliru Mohammed described calls for a return to regional structure as retrogressive.
Say what?


“Regional autonomy and parliamentary system of government can no longer serve a complex society like Nigeria and our founding fathers were wise enough to jettison the system and adopt the present Presidential system, which to all intent and purposes, remains the best for a country like ours,” he noted.

cry cry cry

And the present "presidential system" is serving Nigeria . . . how?


According to him, states replaced the regions because of demands by ethnic nationalities for self-determination, adding that a u-turn to the old structure would be a repeat of the scenario where major ethnic groups like Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo were in total control of the regions and marginalised other groups.

*raises eyebrow*
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by dasparrow: 3:57am On Sep 03, 2012
@Post

I am in strong support of regional autonomy. I don't know why northern leaders are kicking against it. They know that the current political system in Nigeria is working in their favour but how about the millions of Nigerians wallowing in poverty? Northern leaders don't want regional autonomy yet they went ahead and approved sharia law in a country that has a significant number of christians. They can't eat their cake and have it. Besides, why are they so scared if Nigeria should dissolve? or is there something they (northern leaders) are not telling us?
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by odumchi: 5:32am On Sep 03, 2012
Why go back to the days of peanut pyramids when we [the Hausa] are being handed out billions in Southern oil money? Why attempt to change the governmental structure of this our great country when the current one favors Northern political domination and Southern (and especially Eastern) political subjugation?

Naijeriya is good o.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by DuduNegro: 6:18am On Sep 03, 2012
There are ethnic groups in the North that are wholly Chriatian yet this did not stop Arewa from instituting Sharia government broadly across their region.

Sharia is in harmony with their ideals and aspirations, much the same way that Yoruba see Parliamentary governmenr as a far beter alignment with its own customary system of native government than any other practicable opions available to us . So why is Arewa gettig a heart attack? There must be a disadvantage to them in the proposed rearrangement!
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by 9javoice1(m): 7:25am On Sep 03, 2012
That is why i wonder why the Southwest ACN continue to relate and trying to merge with buhari CPC.
Both leader's of the party has different intentions on how to run the nation. so why the merge?

its much better for the south to unite than acn merging with cpc.
we will come back here after 7yrs to cry had we known.

look at buhari stand. as backward as Nigeria yet these guy buhari tend to support his regional dominance than national progress.
nonsense
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by 9javoice1(m): 7:34am On Sep 03, 2012
The North is against regional government,
against state police,
against national conference,
against autonomy,
what do they want

the north supports:
- supports sharianazation
- supports dominance
- supports religious intolerance
- supports marginalization
- supports backwardness.

why are we still here as one country. lets put this nation into pieces.
as for me i want total breakup with this backward north.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by CyberG: 7:34am On Sep 03, 2012
9ja voice: That is why i wonder why the Southwest ACN continue to relate and trying to merge with buhari CPC.
Both leader's of the party has different intentions on how to run the nation. so why the merge?

its much better for the south to unite than acn merging with cpc.
we will come back here after 7yrs to cry had we known.

look at buhari stand. as backward as Nigeria yet these guy buhari tend to support his regional dominance than national progress.
nonsense

Your suggestion is a bit naive. It is not the prerogative of ACN or CPC to change Nigeria's political structure but the elected leadership at the national level. Do you think PDP that have not even tarred roads, fixed power, etc will make such a move? Your guess is as good as mine. In fact, do you know since Nigerians have been shouting and keep shouting and talking while you actively do nothing, what will PDP (majority at the national level) do? Of course, steal more money while doing NOTHING! So, relating with a major party bloc and explore multiple approaches to influence national direction is bad in your opinion? You think you at your small age is wiser than those people who are exploring ways to change the national direction? Well, I suggest you first win a state governorship election and then you can criticize people who are at least exploring ways to change the direction and speed at which this country is sliding into debt, insecurity, etc.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by CyberG: 7:39am On Sep 03, 2012
9ja voice: The North is against regional government,
against state police,
against national conference,
against autonomy,
what do they want

the north supports:
- supports sharianazation
- supports dominance
- supports religious intolerance
- supports marginalization
- supports backwardness.

why are we still here as one country. lets put this nation into pieces.
as for me i want total breakup with this backward north.

What you want as a person is immaterial if NO ONE buys into your ideas. In fact, you will need millions of people to agree with you before any progress otherwise, all this posturing is wasting time. Oh, there's no reasonable person who will follow the ideas of a man who wants to break a "nation into pieces". How are you going to do that or you think it is like a glass dish you can just smash on the floor? You need to think first, and provide a detailed vision on your plans otherwise, you will only become frustrated, grow old and die and Nigeria will still be there!
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by ACM10: 7:40am On Sep 03, 2012
Ileke-IdI:
Igbos always on agree with Yoruba, anyone else ever notice it grin

Shocking that the North didn't agree with Yorubas this time. lipsrsealed

Wetin dem dey fear?

Igbos are pragmatic set of people. We shun sentiments to get things done. It's just that the Yorubas cannot be trusted. Their stand on hot issues is almost always ambiguous. I bet that Yorubas will deny this group when shyt hits the fan. Yorubas don't mind playing petty politics if they can't get their way. Igbos would have developed the best relationship with them had it been for their obvious shortcomings which cannot be easily ignored.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by rotman91(m): 8:18am On Sep 03, 2012
If I may ask why should the north always determine everything about national matters.
the reasons the object to issues like this is very obvious. They take dominance on every sector of the economy and are not ready to loss this, they av so much benefitted 4rm d oil wealth of this nation in amassing so much to themselves why a large population of northerners live in extreme poverty.
the now think the presidency is their birthright and are not prepared to loss grip of power not minding if any group is marginalized
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by BJ4REEL(m): 8:32am On Sep 03, 2012
Backward peeps!...
Retrogressiveness is their way of life....
Not suprised,;seems diz mallams have a phobia 4 progress...
Once its not in their favour,then they will always kick against it....
Its a case of someone in a ditch,not willing to leave d ditch,yet wants everyone to continue dinning in d ditch with them!.....
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by T9ksy(m): 8:39am On Sep 03, 2012
ACM10:

Igbos are pragmatic set of people. We shun sentiments to get things done. It's just that the Yorubas cannot be trusted. Their stand on hot issues is almost always ambiguous. I bet that Yorubas will deny this group when shyt hits the fan. Yorubas don't mind playing petty politics if they can't get their way. Igbos would have developed the best relationship with them had it been for their obvious shortcomings which cannot be easily ignored.


@ bolded, But what made you think that the yorubas trust the ibos?

As Pa Awo of blessed memory reminded your dead ex-warlord in enugu just before the war, [b]we don't trust you guys.

[/b]The only difference is just that we yorubas, don't make a song and dance issue out of it like you guys.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Super1759: 8:47am On Sep 03, 2012
ACM10:

Igbos are pragmatic set of people. We shun sentiments to get things done. It's just that the Yorubas cannot be trusted. Their stand on hot issues is almost always ambiguous. I bet that Yorubas will deny this group when shyt hits the fan. Yorubas don't mind playing petty politics if they can't get their way. Igbos would have developed the best relationship with them had it been for their obvious shortcomings which cannot be easily ignored.
but the question in my mind is this, why would yoruba make a move for such? Are they more concerned than the igbos? Something fishy is about happening
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Super1759: 8:51am On Sep 03, 2012
BJ4REEL: Backward peeps!...
Retrogressiveness is their way of life....
Not suprised,;seems diz mallams have a phobia 4 progress...
Once its not in their favour,then they will always kick against it....
Its a case of someone in a ditch,not willing to leave d ditch,yet wants everyone to continue dinning in d ditch with them!.....
bros, you won't really blame them. Their forefathers fought for a right and that's their means of survival. Among the tribes, they are the least but won't just succumb it due to low self-esteem
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by greaterlove(m): 9:06am On Sep 03, 2012
Please I am not trying to be pessimistic or tribalistic, but according to the post the yoruba national assembly met and agreed on regional autonomy but it took ohaneze to prepare a document and send to the national assembly. I don't think I will waste my time on this again but it just won't work and a warning to the ibos una no dey learn.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by omayyi: 9:35am On Sep 03, 2012
9ja voice: The North is against regional government,
against state police,
against national conference,
against autonomy,
what do they want

the north supports:
- supports sharianazation
- supports dominance
- supports religious intolerance
- supports marginalization
- supports backwardness.

why are we still here as one country. lets put this nation into pieces.
as for me i want total breakup with this backward north.
the south supports
-internet scam aka yahoo yahoo
-armed robbery
-rituals
-baby factory
-drug trafficking
-love peddlers
-fake drugs
-fake school certificate
Too many evils to mention

Why is the north still in the same country with a group of people that have the least morals on planet earth
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Afam4eva(m): 10:06am On Sep 03, 2012
I don't know why people cannot see the handwriting on wall as it concerns the reason why it's always the north that disagrees with anything that has to do with self sustenance. They're the ones's who are mainly against state police and now it's regional autonomy. These people want to have a firm grip on Nigeria. They know that if each region is giving the power to rule their affairs, the power of the north will reduce astronomically. I support any call for semi-independence as it was in the first republic.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Nobody: 10:57am On Sep 03, 2012
omayyi :
the south supports
-internet scam aka yahoo yahoo
-armed robbery
-rituals
-baby factory
-drug trafficking
-love peddlers
-fake drugs
-fake school certificate
Too many evils to mention

Why is the north still in the same country with a group of people that have the least morals on planet earth


The slaughter of the Innocent is a great moral encouragement from the North!
Even Boko Haram is "moralistic Orgnanisation"
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Nobody: 10:58am On Sep 03, 2012
I think Nigerian politicians are confused! What Nigeria needs is complete autonomy of States and not regions. We all know what autonomy of states means.
Re: Igbo Leaders Agree With Yoruba Leaders On Regional Autonomy - North Disagrees by Wordsmith(m): 11:11am On Sep 03, 2012
regional autonomy is the way. Under regional form of government, Nigeria saw its best periods of development as not only our natural resources were harnessed, but also an important resource - ourselves.


This unitary form has made many lazy and dependent on handouts from the central government and only those with this freeloader mentality are the ones kicking against it. We run a most expensive democratic government and yet, have little in way of results to show for it. I believe the Parliamentary style would discourage a lot of politicians who see politics as a scramble for that national cake.

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