But be sincere to yourself, even if that's the case but
atleast it made tje world a better place, imagine the
human blood sacrifices that were being practiced
prior to the coming of christianity in those regions of
the world, imagine the harm that was done, imagine
how innocent lives were been terminated as a result of
false belief, take for instance the killing of twins in
calabar before tthe missionary mary slensor put an
end to that evil practice, imagine if the people never
got delivered of such it would have still been praticed
till date.
The question is does'nt it surprise you all how
christianity and the Gospel of Jesus Christ penatrated
every rook and cranny of the world without the use of
force or weapon of war for defense and coerssion?
Does'nt this show there must be supernatural force
and miraculouse signs and wonders that those people
saw in the gospel of christ that convinced them
enough to abandone their long worshiped gods which
they inherited from their forefathers for a new God
introduced by strangers?
Definately they must have seen with their eyes things
that were beyond natural which was convincing
enough to have brought about the switch.
How can one come to a strong man's house and
defeat him of his possession except the later is indeed
stronger and of a greater authority.
A food for thought for those who are reasonable
enough!!!
God is no joke, Jesus is real, i wish u would believe me
and save yourself from eternal damnation.

There we go again!
If God is no joke, ask Satan!

joe4christ: The question is does'nt it surprise you all how
christianity and the Gospel of Jesus Christ penatrated
every rook and cranny of the world without the use of
force or weapon of war for defense and coerssion?
Does'nt this show there must be supernatural force
and miraculouse signs and wonders that those people
saw in the gospel of christ that convinced them
enough to abandone their long worshiped gods which
they inherited from their forefathers for a new God
introduced by strangers?

YOU BABOON! ANSWER THIS THREAD FIRST, THEN OPEN YOUR BIG USELESS DUSTBIN LID MOUTH!

https://www.nairaland.com/1032203/need-answer-christians-need-answer

miraculous MY FOOT!

some folks are just extremely ignorant

Imagine if there was no Islam or Christianity in Nigeria the masses would not be fighting & killing themselves over two imported religions. Boko Haram would not exist. The masses would not be waiting for an imaginary old white man with a grey beard to come down from the sky and solve Nigeria's problems for them (coz they'd be forced to do it themselves) Church leaders would not be fleecing the masses buying private jets expensive rides & building mansions with their hard earned doh. Our leaders who we elected to solve our countrys problems cannot pass the buck to some imaginary dude by saying "Let's pray to God to solve Nigeria's problems" or "Only God can solve our problems" or "Its all in Gods hands" I could go on & on but i'll leave it here for now

^^^^^^^^^^^^i dont get what is their problem??!!!!

thye just dont want our NAtion to progress!

PAGAN 9JA:



YOU BABOON! ANSWER THIS THREAD FIRST, THEN OPEN YOUR BIG USELESS DUSTBIN LID MOUTH!

https://www.nairaland.com/1032203/need-answer-christians-need-answer

Hammer on bro! Nice thread.


The christians have done worse atrocities than any pagan religion. Stupid hypocrites

joe4christ: But be sincere to yourself, even if that's the case but
atleast it made tje world a better place, imagine the
human blood sacrifices that were being practiced
prior to the coming of christianity in those regions of
the world, imagine the harm that was done, imagine
how innocent lives were been terminated as a result of
false belief, take for instance the killing of twins in
calabar before tthe missionary mary slensor put an
end to that evil practice, imagine if the people never
got delivered of such it would have still been praticed
till date.
The question is does'nt it surprise you all how
christianity and the Gospel of Jesus Christ penatrated
every rook and cranny of the world without the use of
force or weapon of war for defense and coerssion?
Does'nt this show there must be supernatural force
and miraculouse signs and wonders that those people
saw in the gospel of christ that convinced them
enough to abandone their long worshiped gods which
they inherited from their forefathers for a new God
introduced by strangers?
Definately they must have seen with their eyes things
that were beyond natural which was convincing
enough to have brought about the switch.
How can one come to a strong man's house and
defeat him of his possession except the later is indeed
stronger and of a greater authority.
A food for thought for those who are reasonable
enough!!!
God is no joke, Jesus is real, i wish u would believe me
and save yourself from eternal damnation.

So, you ignore the slavery and colonialism done by the same christians?

MacDaddy01:


So, you ignore the slavery and colonialism done by the same christians?

Baseless accusations, what are your proof?

joe4christ:

Baseless accusations, what are your proof?

baseless accusations how much more base you want go read history and come back.

manmustwac: Imagine if there was no Islam or Christianity in Nigeria the masses would not be fighting & killing themselves over two imported religions. Boko Haram would not exist. The masses would not be waiting for an imaginary old white man with a grey beard to come down from the sky and solve Nigeria's problems for them (coz they'd be forced to do it themselves) Church leaders would not be fleecing the masses buying private jets expensive rides & building mansions with their hard earned doh. Our leaders who we elected to solve our countrys problems cannot pass the buck to some imaginary dude by saying "Let's pray to God to solve Nigeria's problems" or "Only God can solve our problems" or "Its all in Gods hands" I could go on & on but i'll leave it here for now

You just aint got a clue what nigerian problem realy is, you know why cause you're an ignoramus, oh yes, that's exactly who u are for painting religion as the source of nigerian problems.
I'll recommend yyou check deep withen urself u might be lucky enough to see for yourself the source of nigerian problems.
God help your deluded soul!

PAGAN 9JA:



baseless accusations how much more base you want go read history and come back.

Bring it on i'm waiting!

joe4christ:

Bring it on i'm waiting!

what do you mean by "bring it on"?? go read my thread i posted above and then come back. if you have any doubts about that then ask me.

Callotti: There we go again!
If God is no joke, ask Satan!

What ddo you know about satan, sure you are not related? Cos i see some iota of him in you. Seriousely!!!

PAGAN 9JA:


what do you mean by "bring it on"?? go read my thread i posted above and then come back. if you have any doubts about that then ask me.

I aint got much time for that mehn, just bring it on. Simple!

@Poster
Real food for thought. Hmm...joe4christ = mumu4christ?

joe4christ:

I aint got much time for that mehn, just bring it on. Simple!

i wont bring it on. just clik the link to the damn thread. or else get lost and stop wasting your time here.

manmustwac: Imagine if there was no Islam or Christianity in Nigeria the masses would not be fighting & killing themselves over two imported religions. Boko Haram would not exist. The masses would not be waiting for an imaginary old white man with a grey beard to come down from the sky and solve Nigeria's problems for them (coz they'd be forced to do it themselves) Church leaders would not be fleecing the masses buying private jets expensive rides & building mansions with their hard earned doh. Our leaders who we elected to solve our countrys problems cannot pass the buck to some imaginary dude by saying "Let's pray to God to solve Nigeria's problems" or "Only God can solve our problems" or "Its all in Gods hands" I could go on & on but i'll leave it here for now

Who is killing who ? The only ones doing the killings are the Muslims. You make it seem as if the Christians took up arms. By the way, prayers has never, not once, stopped any Nigerian from putting his/her energies towards bettering this country.

joe4christ:

Baseless accusations, what are your proof?

Ignorance is a disease
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/slavery_1.shtml

Uyi Iredia:

Who is killing who ? The only ones doing the killings are the Muslims. You make it seem as if the Christians took up arms. By the way, prayers has never, not once, stopped any Nigerian from putting his/her energies towards bettering this country.

the thing is that you christians have already done your killings. christian killings ended about 50 years back with the break down of colonialism. however, small-scale ones do happen here and there. the thiing with you christians is that, the damage has already been DONE. today the church heavily relies on brainwashing (CHief weapon), bribing, etc.

the muslims on the other hand came fairly later than you fellows so they still have some killings left to commit. apart from the usual brainwashing weapon and other things.

My God!!! There are so many atheists in NL. And I'm quite sure ther are so many who are same out there. But the truth is only a fool says there's no God.
Some people say God is an electromagnetic energy. What ridiculous statement.
If they are good historians, they would know that there was a man called Jesus who came to earth and performed many signs and wonders.

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PAGAN 9JA:


i wont bring it on. just clik the link to the damn thread. or else get lost and stop wasting your time here.

@pagan9ja,..just ignore that kid called ...4christ he may have been paid & shoved here to post trash ...judging from his frenzied tone. Let him wallow and enjoy his folly ...na im go tire !

vislabraye: My God!!! There are so many atheists in NL. And I'm quite sure ther are so many who are same out there. But the truth is only a fool says there's no God.
Some people say God is an electromagnetic energy. What ridiculous statement.
If they are good historians, they would know that there was a man called Jesus who came to earth and performed many signs and wonders.

i am Pagan. i never said there is no Gods/Spiritual Forces that govern the material aspects. however, it so happens that your "God" is a MAN! a man who induirectly caused so much distress & suffering in a perfectly normal-working world.
there might have been jesus, but no magic. plain illusions, thats all..

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@pagan9ja,..just ignore that kid called ...4christ he may have been paid & shoved here to post trash ...judging from his frenzied tone. Let him wallow and enjoy his folly ...na im go tire !

yes sister you are right!

A food for thought for all atheists and believers alike

Who on earth speaks English in the manner of the bold?

joe4christ: But be sincere to yourself, even if that's the case but
atleast it made tje world a better place, imagine the
human blood sacrifices that were being practiced
prior to the coming of christianity

And Christianity does not show blood sacrifice? What is the teaching of remission of sins through Christ's death, if not blood sacrifice?

What were all the sacrifices in the Old Testament.

The question is does'nt it surprise you all how
christianity and the Gospel of Jesus Christ penatrated
every rook and cranny of the world without the use of
force or weapon of war for defense and coerssion?

Chei, you fit lie o. Christianity was propagated without weapons of war and coercion?

Lol. You must be a joker.

A food for thought for those who are reasonable
enough!!!

Again, who speaks English like this? They need to use coercion to coerce you into proper English.

PAGAN 9JA:


i am Pagan. i never said there is no Gods/Spiritual Forces that govern the material aspects. however, it so happens that your "God" is a MAN! a man who induirectly caused so much distress & suffering in a perfectly normal-working world.
there might have been jesus, but no magic. plain illusions, thats all..

Why dont you enlighten this fools who say there is no God and no spiritual existance by sharing your testimony, or maybe you can also share how Jesus christ single handedly dealt a blow to all your pagan gods and render them useless, a blow they still could not recover from , and that's why the kingdom of darkness are of no dominating effect on God's anointed.

joe4christ:


Why dont you enlighten this fools who say there is no God and no spiritual existance by sharing your testimony, or maybe you can also share how Jesus christ single handedly dealt a blow to all your pagan gods and render them useless, a blow they still could not recover from , and that's why the kingdom of darkness are of no dominating effect on God's anointed.

Pagan Naija understands that atheists are honest in their stances unlike christians. Pagan Naija knows that unlike christians atheists wont call his religion withcraft

Deep Sight:

And Christianity does not show blood sacrifice? What is the teaching of remission of sins through Christ's death, if not blood sacrifice?

What were all the sacrifices in the Old Testament.



Chei, you fit lie o. Christianity was propagated without weapons of war and coercion?

Lol. You must be a joker.



Again, who speaks English like this? They need to use coercion to coerce you into proper English.

Whatever mehn, you just would'nt accept, or would you?

as to blood sacrifice clarification: sacrificial victims were criminals or POWs or at the most, religious volunteers. According to Pagan ideals, all creatures on this planet, be it animals, plants or humans, are equally created and important for the workings of this world. When you want something, you must give back something in return. this is called a sacrifice. when you want money, you sacrifice your effort to obtain it, when you want to eat, you sacrifice your money to buy food. in the same way,etc., when people want simething from the divine forces, such as rains for good crops, etc. they have to give back something in return. This is in line with physics, i.e., the opposing forces have to be balanced. now what they give back depends on the ritual, mode & context. it maybe a chicken, or a goat or vgetables, or something like that. now we believe that if other animals can be sacrificed, then why not humans this is why it was so in the past that criminals, POWS, etc., instead of normal execution as was the norm of aftermaths of battles in those days, they were killed on the altar of the Gods. now there is no real difference if they die in the gallows or on the altar, is there instead there is a + point if on the altar, because atleast the sacrifice would be appeased.
ofcourse Paganism is ever-evolving and such rituals can be subdued or changed but there is no difference really. .

joe4christ:


Why dont you enlighten this fools who say there is no God and no spiritual existance by sharing your testimony, or maybe you can also share how Jesus christ single handedly dealt a blow to all your pagan gods and render them useless, a blow they still could not recover from , and that's why the kingdom of darkness are of no dominating effect on God's anointed.

wellyou see, it so happens that though i may not confirm to a complete 100% atheistic hardcore ideology, atleast i can say that whatever path they have chosen is as of one based on proofs, honesty & bare facts and reasoning (except in extreme spiritual matters). they have so far never killed, massacred, pillaged, r.aped anyone. even their brainwashing is based on factuality and not some book written by some distant desert banshee.

i have nothing to say to them on soical injustices , etc. they have done no harm to me or my people or my Nation or this world.

what do you mean by "render them useless" how can a Spiritual Force be rendered useless isnt creation itself a Spiritual Force?? and so is Destruction! are these rendered useless>>?? NO! it is intangible, omnipresent & omnipotent. you might have barely destroyed the representations of these Forces. so wat New idols can be built, new temples can be constructed! have you heard of the Hindu Temple of Somnath in Western India The Somnath Temple is known as "the Shrine Eternal", having been destroyed, looted and pillaged six times by invading muslim Arabs and Turks and rebuilt six times by the natives and most recently, 50 years back by the Indian Govt itself. you see?? you can destroy the representations but you can never do away with the belief.

and what dark ages do you refer to are we not now living in the dark ages so much for your jesus' sacrifice to "save" us. *smh