The bible said God is not a confusing God and he does not cause contradiction. Almighty God said in Q4v82 "Do they not consider the Quran Carefully? Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein many contradiction". truely have searched over and over in the Quran, have not come accrose any contradiction in the Quran but as i do go through the Quran i do also go through the Bible also and believe me brothers and sisters, there are alot of contradictions in the bible ,few of them are as follows:
1). "Solomon had forty thousand stalls for his horses and twelve thousand calvary horses". 1king 4v26. But 2chronicle 9v25 says" King solomon also had four thousand(4,000) stalls for his horses and had twleve thousand calvary horses".

2). "No one has ever seen God . The only son , who is the same as God and is at the father's side, he has made him known".John 1v18. But Jacob said "I have seen God face to face, and i am still alive", Gen 32v30.

I never knew God use to eat until i read it in the Bible, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh:" Moses,Aaron,Nadab,Abihu, and seventy of the leaders of isreal went up the mountain and they saw the God of isreal.Beneath his feet was what looked like a pavement of sapphire, as blue as the sky.God did not harm these leading men of isreal; they saw God, and then they ate and drank together"Exodus 24v9-11.

Now this is a question for the entire christians of this forum that , Who wrote the Bible, the Muslims, ?

Thats few of the contradictions from the so called book of God. If anyone says am lieing then about this, then he/she should contact me for a dialog.ghanybayewu@yahoo.com.








Almighty God that we muslim serve do not eat or drink.

Alphazee I mean Therationa or is it Femi 1?

what kind of nonsensical post is this?  it makes absolutely no sense!

Abeg reasonable nairalanders this is why I said we must fight against senseless topics overtaking our religion forum! I think Seun ought to make common sense a prerequisite before anyone can post on nairaland.

Jesus said in the Bible that "you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free, if you like you call what i post nonsence, on the day of judgement you will be called to account for your deeds and what religuion do you pratice, ?,
Because God said in the koran 3v85" And whoever seeks a religion other than islam, it will never be accepted of him. and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers. so as to say if you are a christian,pagan,jedaism, etc. you all will be of the losers. Jesus you christians claim that you follow was a muslim befor he died so as all the prophet sent by God also are muslims.

here is a proof that all the prophets worshiped God by bowing there will on the floor for God.Nehemiah 8v4-6.

Femi 1:

Jesus said in the Bible that "you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free, if you like you call what i post nonsence, on the day of judgement you will be called to account for your deeds and what religuion do you pratice, ?,

  oh oh so you sabi quote bible? try take a few extra minutes to re-read the verses you originally posted and the answer to your "question" should become immediately clear.

Because God said in the koran 3v85" And whoever seeks a religion other than the great religion, it will never be accepted of him. and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers. so as to say if you are a christian,pagan,jedaism, etc. you all will be of the losers. Jesus you christians claim that you follow was a a great one befor he died so as all the prophet sent by God also are great ones.

   erhmm correction,
the god of the koran is not God. Just wanted to point that out  . And since he is not the true God, nuthin he said should be taken seriously.

Al'lah also said "We gave unto Moses the Scripture, and We appointed it a guidance for
the Children of Israel, saying: Choose no guardian beside Me." Qur'an 17 : 2

Femi 1 where is this scripture?

Once you give me a coherent answer i will then school u thoroughly on your percieved contradictions in the bible.

thank you

Well Jesoul i think we need to see each other and believe me i have enough time for this,do you have a yahoo messenher so that we can chat better, you can chat with me on sam_salako2006@yahoo.com.



Well 4Him, the Original scripture given to moses has been missing. i'm the one that suppose to ask you that where is the original text of the scripture given to moses and jesus because the Torah and the Injeel are not real in English. Unlike the Qur'an that you can easily find the original anywhere.

Femi 1:

Well 4Him, the Original scripture given to moses has been missing.

And to you We have revealed the Book containing the truth, confirming the earlier revelations, and preserving them (from change and corruption) - Al-Ma'idah 5:48

Could al'lah have made a mistake? Did he forget his promise to "preserve" the scripture?

Femi 1:

i'm the one that suppose to ask you that where is the original text of the scripture given to moses and jesus because the Torah and the Injeel are not real in English. Unlike the Qur'an that you can easily find the original anywhere.

The torah and gospels were written in greek, aramaic and possibly hebrew . . . but have since been translated to english for easy reading. The originals (as was handed down to the jews by their priests and prophets NOT by al'lah since his copy is missing) have been preserved . . . i'm sure i don't need to remind u of the dead sea scrolls.

You say the original of the qur'an can be found "anywhere" . . . how is this possible if The Great Prophet could not read or write?
What original copy did the great prophet write down?
did it include the copies eaten by goats? -

@Femi1
You have not convinced us why we should believe Moh@mmed's writings about Christ.

Just claiming that 'he is a prophet' is a convenient escape route.

The bible is one of the most EVILS works on the planet. PERIOD.

Femi 1:

Well Jesoul i think we need to see each other and believe me i have enough time for this,do you have a yahoo messenher so that we can chat better, you can chat with me on sam_salako2006@yahoo.com.

 thanks for the invitation but I think an open discussion here will expose all the inconsistencies and false claims to satisfaction. . . 4Him is already doing a great job poking all kinds of potholes in ur "argument".

therationa:

The bible is one of the most EVILS works on the planet. PERIOD.

thank you sir.

therationa:

The bible is one of the most EVILS works on the planet. PERIOD.

Those who hold this view constitute an insignificant minority that do not make any lasting impact on humanity.

imhotep:

Those who hold this view constitute an insignificant minority that do not make any lasting impact on humanity.

  and how comforting that is!

imhotep:

Those who hold this view constitute an insignificant minority that do not make any lasting impact on humanity.

JeSoul:

and how comforting that is!

Let me give the names of the three greatest philanthropist ever:

Warren Buffet - 1st/2nd richest person - Given many billions of dollars to charities
Bill Gates - 1st/2nd richest person - Also given billions of dollars to charity
Canargie - Was world's riches man in 19th century. Gave nearly all his wealth to charities

All the above men have done a lot more to help humankind than all the bible thumpers of the world put together. And what do they all have in common. They are all non-believers.


Some more non-believers;

Albert Einstein
Voltaire
Darwin
Thomas Edison
Thomas Paine
David Hume
etc

The ideas of these men have help shape the world that you currently inhabit. If you do not know how, PLEASE, go educate yourself.

imhotep said "lasting impact", not temporary accomplishments or deeds - there's a big difference btw the two.
do you think the money, fame, philantrophy, philosphy will matter on the last day? No it won't. Only what is done for Christ and in the name of Christ holds value in the sight of God. Everything else is righteousness that is as filthy as rags and utterly worthless in the view of eternity.

therationa:



Let me give the names of the three greatest philanthropist ever:

Warren Buffet - 1st/2nd richest person - Given many billions of dollars to charities
Bill Gates - 1st/2nd richest person - Also given billions of dollars to charity
Canargie - Was world's riches man in 19th century. Gave nearly all his wealth to charities

All the above men have done a lot more to help humankind than all the bible thumpers of the world put together. And what do they all have in common. They are all non-believers.


Some more non-believers;

Albert Einstein
Voltaire
Darwin
Thomas Edison
Thomas Paine
David Hume
etc

The ideas of these men have help shape the world that you currently inhabit. If you do not know how, PLEASE, go educate yourself.

Yes. And Jesus Christ opened the way for the salvation of their souls, which would have been doomed to eternal separation from God, their true destiny.

All the above men have done a lot more to help humankind than all the bible thumpers of the world put together. And what do they all have in common. They are all non-believers.

We don't go about shouting we've done good deeds . But I could give you names, you know

therationa:

Let me give the names of the three greatest philanthropist ever:

Warren Buffet - 1st/2nd richest person - Given many billions of dollars to charities
Bill Gates - 1st/2nd richest person - Also given billions of dollars to charity
Canargie - Was world's riches man in 19th century. Gave nearly all his wealth to charities

and what has been their "lasting impact" on the world at large outside of the USA? How have they affected their generation for decades to come?
Jesus Christ is regarded as the most influential Man who ever lived in the last 2000yrs . . . He didnt have chains of stores and software companies.

Those pple you list arent necessarily better than the average joe next door . . . the only thing they have in common is wealth.

@JeSoul:

imhotep said "lasting impact", not temporary accomplishments or deeds - there's a big difference between the two.
do you think the money, fame, philantrophy, philosphy will matter on the last day? No it won't. Only what is done for Christ and in the name of Christ holds value in the sight of God. Everything else is righteousness that is as filthy as rags and utterly worthless in the view of eternity.

I don't wanna burst your Bubbles; God is the Decision Maker on that day. Everyone else, including Jesus (as), will have to account for their responsibility to God, alone.

olabowale:

@JeSoul: I don't want to burst your Bubbles; God is the Decision Maker on that day. Everyone else, including Jesus (as), will have to account for their responsibility to God, alone.

if only u can just find this portion for me in ur koran.

olabowale:

@JeSoul: I don't want to burst your Bubbles; God is the Decision Maker on that day. Everyone else, including Jesus (as), will have to account for their responsibility to God, alone.

4Him:

if only u can just find this portion for me in your koran.

  LOL  4Him, we shall not be holding our breath waiting for that verse.

  Olabowale, burst my bubble? lol. . . I have biblical proof of what I say! complete with verse and book and chapter!

Romans 2:16
This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
2 Timothy 4:1
In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom

And to you We have revealed the Book containing the truth, confirming the earlier revelations, and preserving them (from change and corruption) - Al-Ma'idah 5:48

Could al'lah have made a mistake? Did he forget his promise to "preserve" the scripture?





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Here is the correct interpretation of Al-Ma'idah 5:48 : Allah did not promise to guide the torah when it was given to moses so as injeel when it was given to jesus, but God said in the Qur'an that people have corrupted all the revelation he sent befor ,so this Qur'an will be guided from corruption till the day of judgement, and believe me 4Him the christians have tried there possible best to add to the Qur'an but there secret use to link out, i will try by Grace of God tomarrow , i will send you some chapters and verse the christians print that they want to add to the Qur'an.

So my dear brother 4Him, You interpreted the Qur'an you read wrongly, Why dont we do this in person, ?

Femi 1:

Here is the correct interpretation of Al-Ma'idah 5:48 : God did not promise to guide the torah when it was given to moses so as injeel when it was given to jesus, but God said in the Qur'an that people have corrupted all the revelation he sent befor ,so this Qur'an will be guided from corruption till the day of judgement

that is the politically correct, dishonest and is'lamic face-saving way of interpreting Al-Ma'idah 5:48. look again at the words in highlights: And to you We have revealed the Book containing the truth, confirming the earlier revelations, and preserving them (from change and corruption) - Al-Ma'idah 5:48

God did not reveal the koran as a BOOK to the great prophet . . . infact the actual koran was passed down by oral tradition before being compiled several years after the death of moham'mad . . . so what "book" was god talking about here?
Again it goes on to say this "book" was to "confirm the earlier revelations" . . . it could only have been refering to the books of the jewish prophets here as there are no records of any "earlier revelations" among the arabs before the great prophet.

Femi 1:

and believe me 4Him the christians have tried there possible best to add to the Qur'an

Where did you bring this lie from? We havent finished digesting the bible . . . the last thing a true christian is thinking about is whether a koran even exists.

Femi 1:

i will try by Grace of God tomarrow

Grace is not an great religious principle. What do you mean by the use of the word "grace" here? Another of your copious borrowing of christian words which u have no idea about?

Femi 1:

i will send you some chapters and verse the christians print that they want to add to the Qur'an.

don't bother. Like i said earlier, i wonder how many christians have time to print a koran.

Femi 1:

So my dear brother 4Him, You interpreted the Qur'an you read wrongly, Why don't we do this in person, ?

do this in person? so u can practice your jihad? no thank u.

4Him i am swear by God whose hand my life is, i want us to fix a date to have a dialog and take my word God did not command us to fight who we want to preach to, its people like you that are misunderstanding the Jihad.The reason i said we should do this in person is am not so Good in the computer and i hardly have time to come online, and i think we will understand each other very well in person.

And as to By the Grace of God that i said , the pronoucation in arabic word is Insha Allah, Illiterate is a disease.

Femi 1:

4Him[b] i am swear by God whose hand my life is, i want us to fix a date to have a dialog and take my word God did not command us to fight who we want to preach to[/b], its people like you that are misunderstanding the Jihad.The reason i said we should do this in person is am not so Good in the computer and i hardly have time to come online, and i think we will understand each other very well in person.

And as to By the Grace of God that i said , the pronoucation in arabic word is Insha God, Illiterate is a disease.

Can you take out time and explain this to the families of the 3000 victims of the world trade center incident. You remember that, don't you

Well 4Him its dialoging with you today, i have to close from work now, I hope to talk to you tomarrow on this, the Prophet says anyone whom God Loves, he (God) will opean his heart and he/she will accept islam, I pray God will opean your heart one day.






, Truth has come.Q17v81

Femi 1:

And as to By the Grace of God that i said , the pronoucation in arabic word is Insha God, Illiterate is a disease.

Femi 1, meeting in person is out of the question. Put ur concerns here and let everyone (not just me) contribute.

Illiteracy indeed is a disease . . . care to tell me what "grace" means in islam? It is not just about repeating "insha allah   like a mantra you know.

Yet again,

THE BIBLE AND THE KORAN ARE ONE OF THE MOST EVIL BOOKS AROUND. (or rather the bible and the koran contain a LOT of evil acts command by god). From

Human sacrifice - Lev 27:29
Slavery
Rape
Pillaging of village killing defenseless women and children
Tearing the bellies of pregnant women and smashing the babies head against a wall


EVIL
EVIL
EVIL
EVIL
EVIL

Who can say these things are NOT commanded or condoned or sanctioned by the bible or god?

@ therationa . . . think for a moment . . . if indeed the above were "sanctioned" and "commanded" by the christian God why are jews and christians not engaging in human sacrifice, slavery, rape, pillaging of villages and slashing the bellies of pregnant women?
Isnt that a case of flagrant disobedience?

4Him:

@ therationa . . . think for a moment . . . if indeed the above were "sanctioned" and "commanded" by the christian God why are jews and christians not engaging in human sacrifice, slavery, rape, pillaging of villages and slashing the bellies of pregnant women?
Isnt that a case of flagrant disobedience?

4HIM,

Well, either these things are in the bible and used to be the practice at the time (circa 2500 - 4000 years ago) OR there are NOT in the bible.

If it is indeed true that the bible narratives of these events are historical facts commanded by god (as it says) then the bible is EVIL. If these are allegories, or metaphors or inventions then the bible CANNOT be described as being evil.

BUT it cannot cut both ways. You cannot have both.

Human civilisation has naturally developed with time. Even without god, if indeed these acts were performed by the Jews at the time, customs might have changed such that they have now become outmoded.

@poster :

Bible is God's words. It was existing as dead sea scrolls.

Your Qu'ran on the other hand is not God's word because during the time of Prophet The mus'lim Prophet , there was no standardised qu'ran. It was after the death of Prophet The Great Prophet, that his friends and close companion compiled the Qu'ran from their memory. There was no inspiration whatsoever.

The Qu'ran partly plagiarised the bible. The original word of God which was used even in Medina, before this Is'lam was founded the The Great Prophet was the bible.

Whether you mus'lims believe it or not, Jesus is God the son, and as such should never be compared with The Great Prophet, neither should The Great Prophet be compared with Moses because there is no evidence that he received any revelation through angel Gabriel, neither was there any evidence that he was a prophet in the first place.

May God guide us to the truth (Amen)

therationa:

Human sacrifice - Lev 27:29

It is becoming clear that you are not taking out time to cross-check ur facts before concluding: did Leviticus 27:29 actually advocate human sacrifice?

Lev 27: 29 None devoted, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

In what context is this verse speaking and "what" is to be surely put to death? Verse 28 Notwithstanding no devoted thing, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast, and of the field of his possession, shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing is most holy unto the LORD.

the inclusion of "man" as part of the devoted things unto the Lord that cannot be sold or redeemed is what is causing confusion (i believe it is a deliberate misrepresentation on the part of those deliberately out to find any fault with the bible). \

I ask a simple question . . . if truly God meant that men devoted unto God shld be put to death why then do we NEVER come across any instance of these "devoted" human sacrifices? there are tons of reports of burnt offerings (animal sacrifices), food offerings e.t.c. but NOT ONE MENTION of a human sacrifice unto the Lord . . . it could mean these things:

1. God did not indicate human sacrifice, the jews understood what was meant there
2. God did mean them to sacrifice humans but the Jews deliberately disobeyed
3. There was not a single man devoted unto God in the entire bible.

Where there men devoted unto God? Yes - Samuel was an example of one dedicated into the temple . . . rather than being sacrificed he took over from Eli as priest in Isreal (read I Samuel).

The Levites were also dedicated to God - not a single one of them had to be sacrificed but their lineage produced all the priests of the jewish temple.

Did God frown at human sacrifice? Yes - Lev 18: 21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

Dear, take ur time to read the bible urself . . . by merely buying into the false propaganda of those determined to desecrate the bible, you make a fool of ur own intelligence.