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Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by 2bosun: 3:30pm On Jan 25, 2013
"What we are saying is that the Igbo, being a major player in the country, are entitled to the Presidency and its their turn.

“If President Jonathan declines to run in 2015, it then makes it quicker for the Igbo. The bottom line is that Ohanaeze supports Jonathan in whatever decision he takes in 2015.

“Either way, we are not against him and will urge Nigerians to give him the support needed to make life better for Nigerians until his tenure expires"

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/01/25/2015-jonathan-gets-ohanezes-support/
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by EkoIle1: 3:57pm On Jan 25, 2013
Slow learners.... Smh..

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by GARRIx7(m): 4:12pm On Jan 25, 2013
Till 2019 then..... Happy waiting!!

cheesy
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Demdem(m): 4:15pm On Jan 25, 2013
it still doesnt change anything. even with the full support of Igbos, the retardeen will still be booted out.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Wadeoye(m): 4:45pm On Jan 25, 2013
Igbos, a major player? These guys like feeling important even when it is glaring they can only do follow follow.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Onlytruth(m): 4:47pm On Jan 25, 2013
Demdem: it still doesnt change anything. even with the full support of Igbos, the retardeen will still be booted out.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by danjohn: 6:05pm On Jan 25, 2013
Demdem: it still doesnt change anything. even with the full support of Igbos, the retardeen will still be booted out.

Demdem please dont be too quick to say that. In 2011 GEJ won 99% in Abia, 99% in Anambra, 98% in Imo, 95.6% in Ebonyi, and 98.5% in Enugu. In total GEJ got 4,985,246 votes in the Southeast while Buhari got 20,335 votes. GEJ netted 4,964,911 votes in the Southeast alone.

On the other hand in the Northwest, Buhari got 6,453,437 votes while GEJ got 3,395,437 votes. In the Northeast, Buhari got 3,624,919 votes while GEJ got 1,832,622. In the Northwest Buhari netted 3,057,713 votes and in the Northeast he netted 1,792,297 votes. Combined, in the Northwest and Northeast Buhari netted 4,850,010 votes (excluding Taraba and Adamawa which are not Buhari strong holds, Buhari netted 5,207,166 votes in the NW and NE).

The point I am trying to make is that the Southeast alone allows Jonathan to neutralize Buhari's advantage in the Northwest and Northeast. Hence, the future opposition candidate must work hard to win votes in the Southeast. As you can see, the biggest advantage that PDP has is that even when they lose states in a Presidential election, they are always a respectable second place finisher. While the opposition can win the Presidential election without winning the Southeast, it cannot win without at least 20% or 25% of the votes in the Southeast and the Southsouth.

Demdem at the end of the day, we cannot make dismissive remarks about a region where we need to attract votes.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by EkoIle1: 6:16pm On Jan 25, 2013
^^^^ That was 2011 and a lot of rigging.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by koruji(m): 6:32pm On Jan 25, 2013
You will be surprised in 2015 - the favored candidate in each region will get 90+ percent this time.

danjohn:
Demdem please dont be too quick to say that. In 2011 GEJ won 99% in Abia, 99% in Anambra, 98% in Imo, 95.6% in Ebonyi, and 98.5% in Enugu. In total GEJ got 4,985,246 votes in the Southeast while Buhari got 20,335 votes. GEJ netted 4,964,911 votes in the Southeast alone.

On the other hand in the Northwest, Buhari got 6,453,437 votes while GEJ got 3,395,437 votes. In the Northeast, Buhari got 3,624,919 votes while GEJ got 1,832,622. In the Northwest Buhari netted 3,057,713 votes and in the Northeast he netted 1,792,297 votes. Combined, in the Northwest and Northeast Buhari netted 4,850,010 votes (excluding Taraba and Adamawa which are not Buhari strong holds, Buhari netted 5,207,166 votes in the NW and NE).

The point I am trying to make is that the Southeast alone allows Jonathan to neutralize Buhari's advantage in the Northwest and Northeast. Hence, the future opposition candidate must work hard to win votes in the Southeast. As you can see, the biggest advantage that PDP has is that even when they lose states in a Presidential election, they are always a respectable second place finisher. While the opposition can win the Presidential election without winning the Southeast, it cannot win without at least 20% or 25% of the votes in the Southeast and the Southsouth.

Demdem at the end of the day, we cannot make dismissive remarks about a region where we need to attract votes.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by PointB: 6:34pm On Jan 25, 2013
danjohn:

Demdem please dont be too quick to say that. In 2011 GEJ won 99% in Abia, 99% in Anambra, 98% in Imo, 95.6% in Ebonyi, and 98.5% in Enugu. In total GEJ got 4,985,246 votes in the Southeast while Buhari got 20,335 votes. GEJ netted 4,964,911 votes in the Southeast alone.

On the other hand in the Northwest, Buhari got 6,453,437 votes while GEJ got 3,395,437 votes. In the Northeast, Buhari got 3,624,919 votes while GEJ got 1,832,622. In the Northwest Buhari netted 3,057,713 votes and in the Northeast he netted 1,792,297 votes. Combined, in the Northwest and Northeast Buhari netted 4,850,010 votes (excluding Taraba and Adamawa which are not Buhari strong holds, Buhari netted 5,207,166 votes in the NW and NE).

The point I am trying to make is that the Southeast alone allows Jonathan to neutralize Buhari's advantage in the Northwest and Northeast. Hence, the future opposition candidate must work hard to win votes in the Southeast. As you can see, the biggest advantage that PDP has is that even when they lose states in a Presidential election, they are always a respectable second place finisher. While the opposition can win the Presidential election without winning the Southeast, it cannot win without at least 20% or 25% of the votes in the Southeast and the Southsouth.

Demdem at the end of the day, we cannot make dismissive remarks about a region where we need to attract votes.

Please allow them to count their chicks before they are hatched.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by danjohn: 6:36pm On Jan 25, 2013
Eko Ile: ^^^^ That was 2011 and a lot of rigging.

You are correct. The numbers I provided were not adjusted to account for electoral malpractices. I have a model that accounts for it so here is my summary. In 2011, the voter turnout in the NW was 54.5%, NE 54.2%, NC 47.7%, SW 32.3%, SE 66.9%, and SS 66.9%.

Given that voter intensity was highest in the NW, NE, SE, and SS and given that the results in the NW and NE were perceived to be more credible, we can account for the fraudulent votes in the SE and SS by pegging the voter participation of those regions to the voter participation in the NW and NE. Doing this will decrease the voter participation in the SS and SE by approximately 20%.

Once this adjustment is made, GEJ still nets 3,967,862 votes in the SE vs Buhari's 5,207,166 in the NW and NE (excluding Adamawa and Taraba). All I am saying is that we need some votes from the Southeast in order to improve our chances of winning the election. Right now, the SE and SS are very good buffers for GEJ. It will be a brilliant move by the opposition to eat into that buffer by winning 20% - 30% of the votes in those regions.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by jmaine: 6:37pm On Jan 25, 2013
PointB:

Please allow them to count their chicks before they are hatched.

The same way they thought Buhari was gonna win in a land slide fashion despite clear ratings in the real world . . .I simply grin
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Clerverly: 6:59pm On Jan 25, 2013
I am a full-bloodied Igbo man, but i would rather die than support badluck( sorry goodluck) angry angry angry

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by obi4eze(m): 7:16pm On Jan 25, 2013
If GEJ contests and wins the next election either by hook or crook, it won't be good for Nigeria.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by EkoAtlantic1(f): 7:17pm On Jan 25, 2013
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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Malawian(m): 8:00pm On Jan 25, 2013
Wadeoye: Igbos, a major player? These guys like feeling important even when it is glaring they can only do follow follow.
what is the highest yoruba position in the country today?

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by horlatunde(m): 8:09pm On Jan 25, 2013
It is either dis Igbo pple are Slow learner or dey want to deliberately Mortgage dia chance of producing d next president in 2023 if d North Ascend Power in 2015. I don't see it happening where GEJ will ever transfer Power to d South East. That will be Disaster of d Century. The North Surely will not allow dat which we all know dat. Please let's Fa ce reality and Do things right. Igbo's shud be deceived pls
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Malawian(m): 8:21pm On Jan 25, 2013
horlatunde: It is either dis Igbo pple are Slow learner or dey want to deliberately Mortgage dia chance of producing d next president in 2023 if d North Ascend Power in 2015. I don't see it happening where GEJ will ever transfer Power to d South East. That will be Disaster of d Century. The North Surely will not allow dat which we all know dat. Please let's Fa ce reality and Do things right. Igbo's shud be deceived pls
which north?

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Wadeoye(m): 8:23pm On Jan 25, 2013
Malawian: what is the highest yoruba position in the country today?

You want Yoruba to always be President of Nigeria? We just left the seat a few years back.

Anyway, I am not interested in a Yoruba person ruling the country anyway - I never even voted for OBJ because I knew his government wont benefit anybody. Today, I can't point to anything in South West that we can say we benefited from OBJ 8 years rule.

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by PointB: 8:25pm On Jan 25, 2013
Anyway, the picture will be clear by next year.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by dayokanu(m): 8:28pm On Jan 25, 2013
danjohn:

Demdem please dont be too quick to say that. In 2011 GEJ won 99% in Abia, 99% in Anambra, 98% in Imo, 95.6% in Ebonyi, and 98.5% in Enugu. In total GEJ got 4,985,246 votes in the Southeast while Buhari got 20,335 votes. GEJ netted 4,964,911 votes in the Southeast alone.

On the other hand in the Northwest, Buhari got 6,453,437 votes while GEJ got 3,395,437 votes. In the Northeast, Buhari got 3,624,919 votes while GEJ got 1,832,622. In the Northwest Buhari netted 3,057,713 votes and in the Northeast he netted 1,792,297 votes. Combined, in the Northwest and Northeast Buhari netted 4,850,010 votes (excluding Taraba and Adamawa which are not Buhari strong holds, Buhari netted 5,207,166 votes in the NW and NE).

The point I am trying to make is that the Southeast alone allows Jonathan to neutralize Buhari's advantage in the Northwest and Northeast. Hence, the future opposition candidate must work hard to win votes in the Southeast. As you can see, the biggest advantage that PDP has is that even when they lose states in a Presidential election, they are always a respectable second place finisher. While the opposition can win the Presidential election without winning the Southeast, it cannot win without at least 20% or 25% of the votes in the Southeast and the Southsouth.

Demdem at the end of the day, we cannot make dismissive remarks about a region where we need to attract votes.

Nothing would change about the SouthEast, SouthSouth North West and northeast in 2015 regarding votes. So we can asume the votes from those places counter themselves and balance out

Thats why the SouthWest and northCentral would be the difference maker
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Bigdigpussylova(m): 8:31pm On Jan 25, 2013
I feel so sad when i see tribal sentiments everywhere. educated young people dancing to some tribal tunes; very pathetic.
Clerverly: I am a full-bloodied Igbo man, but i would rather die than support badluck( sorry goodluck) angry angry angry

whether u as an individual support or not, what matters is what majority of Nigerians say by way of voting. Goodluck might not have performed as expected, but tell me any Nigerian past president who has been so praised while in office? the answer is non. let's be patient, let him finish and step down, den we can measure his successes and failures.

danjohn:

You are correct. The numbers I provided were not adjusted to account for electoral malpractices. I have a model that accounts for it so here is my summary. In 2011, the voter turnout in the NW was 54.5%, NE 54.2%, NC 47.7%, SW 32.3%, SE 66.9%, and SS 66.9%.

Given that voter intensity was highest in the NW, NE, SE, and SS and given that the results in the NW and NE were perceived to be more credible, we can account for the fraudulent votes in the SE and SS by pegging the voter participation of those regions to the voter participation in the NW and NE. Doing this will decrease the voter participation in the SS and SE by approximately 20%.

Once this adjustment is made, GEJ still nets 3,967,862 votes in the SE vs Buhari's 5,207,166 in the NW and NE (excluding Adamawa and Taraba). All I am saying is that we need some votes from the Southeast in order to improve our chances of winning the election. Right now, the SE and SS are very good buffers for GEJ. It will be a brilliant move by the opposition to eat into that buffer by winning 20% - 30% of the votes in those regions.

Enlightened human beings talk like DanJohn. . .he analysed with facts and figures and not with sentiments. I am not a supporter of Goodluck yet i don't despise him bcuz he's our leader. The truth is that; any party that dreams of winning presidential election has to pray to win some tangible number of votes from each of the geo-political regions.

FINAL WORD: TRIBALISM KILLS A GENERATION; SHUN TRIBALISM AND LIVE FREE
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Wadeoye(m): 8:37pm On Jan 25, 2013
danjohn:

You are correct. The numbers I provided were not adjusted to account for electoral malpractices. I have a model that accounts for it so here is my summary. In 2011, the voter turnout in the NW was 54.5%, NE 54.2%, NC 47.7%, SW 32.3%, SE 66.9%, and SS 66.9%.

Given that voter intensity was highest in the NW, NE, SE, and SS and given that the results in the NW and NE were perceived to be more credible, we can account for the fraudulent votes in the SE and SS by pegging the voter participation of those regions to the voter participation in the NW and NE. Doing this will decrease the voter participation in the SS and SE by approximately 20%.

Once this adjustment is made, GEJ still nets 3,967,862 votes in the SE vs Buhari's 5,207,166 in the NW and NE (excluding Adamawa and Taraba). All I am saying is that we need some votes from the Southeast in order to improve our chances of winning the election. Right now, the SE and SS are very good buffers for GEJ. It will be a brilliant move by the opposition to eat into that buffer by winning 20% - 30% of the votes in those regions.

You are talking as if GEJ has not spent 4 years in power and Nigerians have seen so much punishment from him. Definitely people will vote differently and hadly would GEJ get 10% vote in the north. More people will also come out to vote in NW, NE and NC. The same will happen in SW if merger sails through. And people who voted for Jonathan and not PDP in SE/SS will have nothing to say.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Nobody: 8:45pm On Jan 25, 2013
You guys are not taken into consideration the population of igbos in disapora.there are millions of igbos scattered throughout the country outside the south east zone enough to give jonathan the required 25% in 2/3 states.yoruba votes in a cosmopolitan state like lagos might even be less than 50% considering the very high population of non -yorubas in lag.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Nobody: 8:49pm On Jan 25, 2013
Jonathan is likely going to win in south east, south -south and the middle belt.He is also expected to get high votes in states like kaduna.adamawa and lagos enough to give him a second term

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Gbawe: 8:49pm On Jan 25, 2013
At the end of the day, I doubt GEJ can even gain the PDP ticket. All these type of talk and 'endorsements' come far too early in my opinion.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by GAR3TH(m): 8:53pm On Jan 25, 2013
Can someone explain how GEJ can run in 2015? I thought the constitution said you can only have two terms as president? Didn't Johnathan serve his first term when he took over from yar'adua and he's second when he won the elections? I thought Nigeria's constitution was similar to the USA? LBJ only served 6 years as president after JFK was assassinated and did not contest the following elections. Because he would have past the 8 year limit and would have served 3 terms in office.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Wadeoye(m): 8:54pm On Jan 25, 2013
chukwudi44: You guys are not taken into consideration the population of igbos in disapora.there are millions of igbos scattered throughout the country outside the south east zone enough to give jonathan the required 25% in 2/3 states.yoruba votes in a cosmopolitan state like lagos might even be less than 50% considering the very high population of non -yorubas in lag.

Igbos are hell bent on destroying this country - we wont allow that. Even tell your people abroad to come home to vote, GEJ will lose 2015 election.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Gbawe: 8:58pm On Jan 25, 2013
Wadeoye:

Igbos are hell bent on destroying this country - we wont allow that. Even tell your people abroad to come home to vote, GEJ will lose 2015 election.

Will he even be a contestant? We should get real. The man is facing the mother of all yawa trying to get the PDP ticket and people are already talking about the States he will win and the States Buhari will win. Both may not even feature in the 2015 general election.

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Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by danjohn: 9:22pm On Jan 25, 2013
GAR3TH: Can someone explain how GEJ can run in 2015? I thought the constitution said you can only have two terms as president? Didn't Johnathan serve his first term when he took over from yar'adua and he's second when he won the elections? I thought Nigeria's constitution was similar to the USA? LBJ only served 6 years as president after JFK was assassinated and did not contest the following elections. Because he would have past the 8 year limit and would have served 3 terms in office.

You are not correct. LBJ could have run for a second term but he refused to seek his party's nomination because his disapproval rating was very high due to the unpopular Vietnam war.
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Malawian(m): 9:27pm On Jan 25, 2013
Wadeoye:

You want Yoruba to always be President of Nigeria? We just left the seat a few years back.

Anyway, I am not interested in a Yoruba person ruling the country anyway - I never even voted for OBJ because I knew his government wont benefit anybody. Today, I can't point to anything in South West that we can say we benefited from OBJ 8 years rule.
just know there is no type of rigmarole by u yaribas that will put you guys ever again within a heart beat from the presidency. we will always see to that, okay?
Re: Igbos Support Jonathan 2015 Bid by Malawian(m): 9:32pm On Jan 25, 2013
dayokanu:

Nothing would change about the SouthEast, SouthSouth North West and northeast in 2015 regarding votes. So we can asume the votes from those places counter themselves and balance out

Thats why the SouthWest and northCentral would be the difference maker
always wanting to pretend we dont know where the south west stands. north central are with SS, SE. your permutations is flawed. next election will not be any different from the last one.

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