ha ha ha ha ha ha.peace-1.the bible has seen many addition,multiplication,deletion and all have you.
imagine the bible saying prophets noah and david may Allah be pleased with all of them accusing them of
incest,rape and adultery.genesis9:23-24 for noah and 2samuel1:4-5.no wonder a french scientist and and philosopher
opined in his book,the bible,qur'an and science,that the most dangerous book on earth is the bible and should be thrown
in the dustbin.some are true and correct but many are wrong.

You will never see a Christian respond here. Even their Pastors avoid this contradictions

[quote author=seanet01]You will never see a Christian respond here. Even their Pastors avoid this contradictions[/quote]IF THEY CAN'T RESPOND,WE WILL HELP THEM DO IT.

Wow. I wish I had enough time to respond to all these post one by one. Okay, here it goes.

peace-1:
IMAGINE THE WORD OF GOD EMANATING FROM HEAR SAY,KAI NA WAH.
LUKE1:2 AND 3."EVEN AS THEY DELIVERED THEM UNTO US,WHICH FROM THE BEGINNING WERE EYEWITNESSES,AND MINISTERS OF THE WORD;IT SEEMED GOOD TO ME ALSO,HAVING HAD PERFECT UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THINGS FROM THE VERY FIRST,TO WRITE UNTO THEE IN ORDER,MOST EXCELLENT THEOPHILUS".AND CHRISTIANS WILL SAY THIS AUTHOR(AMONGST THE SO MANY WE HAVE)WAS INSPIRED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The word of God was written by men but it they were inspired by the spirit, its a known fact that the bible were collections of history and letters especially the NT which were mostly written to the newly convert and christian. The bible is God inspired and that's why the words in the bible still affect our daily life even though it has been writing for over some thousand years.

ibsmooth: ha ha ha ha ha ha.peace-1.the bible has seen many addition,multiplication,deletion and all have you.
imagine the bible saying prophets noah and david may Allah be pleased with all of them accusing them of
incest,rape and adultery.genesis9:23-24 for noah and 2samuel1:4-5.no wonder a french scientist and and philosopher
opined in his book,the bible,qur'an and science,that the most dangerous book on earth is the bible and should be thrown
in the dustbin.some are true and correct but many are wrong.

The bible is the sword of a christian. It is used for guidance, meditation and to know more about God.
I don't see any contradicting verses in those verse you said. It was stated that Noah was drunk with wine and was uncovered in his tent, one of his son Ham saw the unclothedness of their father and told his two brothers Shem and Japheth and they both went took a garment went into their father's tent backward and covered his unclothedness, so where is the molestation and imbreeding you are talking about?

2Samuel 1 was talking about the death of Saul and Jonathan his son and how aggreived David was when he heard that Jonathan his friend is dead. The bible didn't accused David of adultery, it was stated as a matter of fact that David committed the sin of fornication and adultery and he was punished for it even though he later ask God for forgiveness.

It must be noted that God in the OT give out judgement speedily to anyone who errs but we are now in the time of grace because Christ has died for us and given himself has a ransom for us. We are enjoying that grace of God now.

larride:

The bible is the sword of a christian. It is used for guidance, meditation and to know more about God.
I don't see any contradicting verses in those verse you said. It was stated that Noah was drunk with wine and was uncovered in his tent, one of his son Ham saw the unclothedness of their father and told his two brothers Shem and Japheth and they both went took a garment went into their father's tent backward and covered his unclothedness, so where is the molestation and imbreeding you are talking about?

2Samuel 1 was talking about the death of Saul and Jonathan his son and how aggreived David was when he heard that Jonathan his friend is dead. The bible didn't accused David of adultery, it was stated as a matter of fact that David committed the sin of fornication and adultery and he was punished for it even though he later ask God for forgiveness.

It must be noted that God in the OT give out judgement speedily to anyone who errs but we are now in the time of grace because Christ has died for us and given himself has a ransom for us. We are enjoying that grace of God now.

KEEP QUITE AND PUT YOUR HEAD TO SHAME.THOSE VERSES ARE NOT THE SAME BRO.LET US SAY THE TRUTH WHEN WE SEE ANY.COLLECTION OF HISTORY OR WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

peace-1:
KEEP QUITE AND PUT YOUR HEAD TO SHAME.THOSE VERSES ARE NOT THE SAME BRO.LET US SAY THE TRUTH WHEN WE SEE ANY.COLLECTION OF HISTORY OR WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

Why don't you qoute the verses and show us the contradiction?

^^^^^ Stop reading the bible with a preconcieved bias and start reading it to gain wisdom and understanding.
*Jesus came from the lineage of king David hence He was called son of David.
*joseph, His earthly father also came from the lineage of David and he fathered Jesus on earth hence He was called son of Joseph.
*Son of the Holy Spirit was never mentioned in the Bible so I don't know where you got that from.
*Son of God is who Jesus truly is. He left His heavenly glory to fulfill the will of the Father.
*While He was on earth, He took the form of a man hence He was called the son of man. (u be man, ur papa na man, u be son of man)Gerrit?

larride:

[b]Why don't you qoute the verses and show us the contradiction?

GOOD POINT.LET US GET STARTED
(1)2SAMUEL 8:4 READS"AND DAVID TOOK FROM HIM A THOUSAND CHARIOTS AND SEVEN HUNDRED HORSEMEN,AND TWENTY THOUSAND FOOTMEN...." WHILE 1CHRONICLES READS "AND DAVID TOOK FROM HIM A THOUSAND CHARIOTS AND SEVEN THOUSAND HORSEMEN,AND TWENTY THOUSAND FOOTMEN".SO WHICH ONE DO WE CHOOSE MR HISTORIAN?700 OR 7000.
(2)2KINGS 8:26 READS "TWO AND TWENTY YEARS OLD WAS AHAZIAH WHEN HE BEGAN TO REIGN" WHILE 2CHRONICLES READS "FORTY AND TWO YEARS OLD WAS AHAZIAH WHEN HE BEGAN TO REIGN.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
(3)2SAMUEL 24:1 READS "AND AGAIN THE ANGER OF THE LORD WAS KINDLED AGAINST ISRAEL,AND HE MOVED DAVID AGAINST THEM TO SAY,GO,NUMBER ISRAEL AND JUDAH" WHEREAS 1CHRONICLES 21:1 READS "AND SATAN STOOD UP AGAINST ISRAEL,AND PROVOKED DAVID TO NUMBER ISRAEL.LORD OR SATAN?KAI
(4)JOHN 5:31 READS "IF I(JESUS)BEAR WITNESS OF MYSELF,MY WITNESS IS NOT TRUE" AND JOHN 8:14 READS "JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO THEM,THOUGH I BEAR RECORD OF MYSELF,YET MY RECORD IS TRUE"OGA THEM PLENTY EVEN REGARDING OUR SAVIOR.ISIAH 43:10-11 TALKS OF GOD BEING THE ONE AND ONLY SAVIOR AS AGAINST YOUR FREQUENT NOISE OF JESUS BEING THE SAVIOR.THE TRUTH IS THAT IF ALL HUMAN BEINGS WERE TO READ THE BIBLE AND SIT FOR REAL EXAMS,I DON'T SEE ANYBODY PASSING IT BECAUSE OF CONFLICTING STORIES.[/b]

inspiredbyGOD:.:
^^^^^ Stop reading the bible with a preconcieved bias and start reading it to gain wisdom and understanding.
*Jesus came from the lineage of king David hence He was called son of David.
*joseph, His earthly father also came from the lineage of David and he fathered Jesus on earth hence He was called son of Joseph.
*Son of the Holy Spirit was never mentioned in the Bible so I don't know where you got that from.
*Son of God is who Jesus truly is. He left His heavenly glory to fulfill the will of the Father.
*While He was on earth, He took the form of a man hence He was called the son of man. (u be man, ur papa na man, u be son of man)Gerrit?

MAKE UNA DEY LIE TO UNA SELF.MY ADVISE TO UNA IS SIMPLE.GO TO WWW.SULTAN.ORG AND READ EVERYTHING YOUR HEART DESIRES.SET EMOTIONS ASIDE AND VIGOROUSLY CHALLENGE YOUR FACTS.GOD BLESS US ALL

^^^^^^^ Is this how you were taught to win souls for Allah? By lying and twisting bible verses. Good luck on your quest to disprove the bible.

The contradictions listed above can't be argued away. But then again Islam isn't much better. the quran took many of the bible's s.tupid stories and made them more s.tupid

larride: Wow. I wish I had enough time to respond to all these post one by one. Okay, here it goes.



The word of God was written by men but it they were inspired by the spirit, its a known fact that the bible were collections of history and letters especially the NT which were mostly written to the newly convert and christian. The bible is God inspired and that's why the words in the bible still affect our daily life even though it has been writing for over some thousand years.

I totally agree with you Larride. This argument can be followed philosophically, and would still come out to our favour. But, we live in the part of the world where the works of the supernatural is evident. I would understand if this argument is done by those in Europe, Asia or America. But in Nigeria, the supernatural is very evident. To say you don't believe in the supernatural is a bit naive. To say because a thing does not have any physical explanation for existence and it therefore does not exist, that is being naive.

Works of the supernatural is seen in our televisions, and churches in your neighborhood. I'm not talking about it source now (whether demonic or of Christ). The obvious point is the Supernatural is all around us.

If you want to say there's no logical proof of the existence of God, then please show me the logical proof that He does not exist.

TRUE SAINT:

I totally agree with you Larride. This argument can be followed philosophically, and would still come out to our favour. But, we live in the part of the world where the works of the supernatural is evident. I would understand if this argument is done by those in Europe, Asia or America. But in Nigeria, the supernatural is very evident. To say you don't believe in the supernatural is a bit naive. To say because a thing does not have any physical explanation for existence and it therefore does not exist, that is being naive.

Works of the supernatural is seen in our televisions, and churches in your neighborhood. I'm not talking about it source now (whether demonic or of Christ). The obvious point is the Supernatural is all around us.

If you want to say there's no logical proof of the existence of God, then please show me the logical proof that He does not exist.

There are invisible pink unicorns in the sky that do those supernatural things. Please show me the logical proof that they do not exist

lol....OP ...u r so funny!!!....so because dey wrote 700 nd 7000 dats what is giving u a reason dt d quaran is beta dan d BIBLE??

My dear u guys quaran has many errors.....i'lll like you to enter dis link....den come bk and give me answers....if u dont ansa bk...den i'll knw u've lost..nd i'lll suggest leave islllam

1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/index.php?Page=002_008_001_001

[b]

homesteady: lol....OP ...u r so funny!!!....so because dey wrote 700 nd 7000 dats what is giving u a reason dt d quaran is beta dan d BIBLE??

My dear u guys quaran has many errors.....i'lll like you to enter dis link....den come bk and give me answers....if u dont ansa bk...den i'll knw u've lost..nd i'lll suggest leave islllam

1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/index.php?Page=002_008_001_001

YODUNG MAN,I HAVE THE 1000 MISTAKES ON MY SHELVE TOGETHER WITH,WHO IS THIS ALLAH,QUR'AN FACTS OR FALLACY WHICH ALL HAVE REJOINDERS ON THE MISCONCEPTIONS,LIES,IGNORANCE AND BOTH BOOKS DRAWN SIDE BY SIDE.YOU SEE THE FACT REMAINS;THE BIBLE IS CORRUPT JUST AS MOST CHRISTIANS ARE IGNORANT OF THE RELIGION.FOR INSTANCE MY FRIEND IN CHRIST,CAN U TELL ME WHERE IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS WAS BORN ON 25TH DECEMBER AND THAT HIS BIRTHDAY SHOULD BE CELEBRATED?INFACT,LET ME HELP YOU AND HOPE YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS IN ROME.IN 325A.D AT THE NICEA COUNCIL,THE PAGANS OF ROME AND THE CHURCH MET.FIRST THEY SHIFTED THE SABBATH DAY FROM SATURDAY TO SUNDAY WHICH BILLIONS ATTEND EVERY SUNDAY.KNOW MORE ON www.bilalphilips.com[/b].I AM WAITING GUYS

peace-1:
YODUNG MAN,I HAVE THE 1000 MISTAKES ON MY SHELVE TOGETHER WITH,WHO IS THIS ALLAH,QUR'AN FACTS OR FALLACY WHICH ALL HAVE REJOINDERS ON THE MISCONCEPTIONS,LIES,IGNORANCE AND BOTH BOOKS DRAWN SIDE BY SIDE.YOU SEE THE FACT REMAINS;THE BIBLE IS CORRUPT JUST AS MOST CHRISTIANS ARE IGNORANT OF THE RELIGION.FOR INSTANCE MY FRIEND IN CHRIST,CAN U TELL ME WHERE IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS WAS BORN ON 25TH DECEMBER AND THAT HIS BIRTHDAY SHOULD BE CELEBRATED?INFACT,LET ME HELP YOU AND HOPE YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS IN ROME.IN 325A.D AT THE NICEA COUNCIL,THE PAGANS OF ROME AND THE CHURCH MET.FIRST THEY SHIFTED THE SABBATH DAY FROM SATURDAY TO SUNDAY WHICH BILLIONS ATTEND EVERY SUNDAY.KNOW MORE ON www.bilalphilips.com.I AM WAITING GUYS

excuse me!! I said u should give me answers!! Or dont u have anytin to say about d errors??..

ibsmooth: ha ha ha ha ha ha.peace-1.the bible has seen many addition,multiplication,deletion and all have you.
imagine the bible saying prophets noah and david may Allah be pleased with all of them accusing them of
incest,rape and adultery.genesis9:23-24 for noah and 2samuel1:4-5.no wonder a french scientist and and philosopher
opined in his book,the bible,qur'an and science,that the most dangerous book on earth is the bible and should be thrown
in the dustbin. some are true and correct but many are wrong.

All in the book is false, better let it be. A food half poisoned??

peace-1:
SHOW ME THE VERSE(S) I LIED AGAINST.IT IS IN YOUR HOLY BIBLE.YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD BURY YOUR HEAD IN SHAME.THERE ARE OVER 50,000 OF SUCH ERRORS IN THE BOOK YET UNA NO WANT MAKE PERSON OPEN CHICKEN YANSH.

1 john 5:7 that you quoted never referred to Jesus as the son of the Holy Ghost, all the other verses are not in any way contradictory to each other. Why don't you focus on the errors in your quran first before you try to "expose" 50,000 errors in the bible. May the peace of the LORD be with you.

peace-1:
MAKE UNA DEY LIE TO UNA SELF.MY ADVISE TO UNA IS SIMPLE.GO TO WWW.SULTAN.ORG AND READ EVERYTHING YOUR HEART DESIRES.SET EMOTIONS ASIDE AND VIGOROUSLY CHALLENGE YOUR FACTS.GOD BLESS US ALL

HAHAAHAHA...SEE THIS THREE GODESSES PAGAN GOD WORSHIPPER DEY RANT HERE.

You don remove the plenty sh**t wen dey your eyes before you dey try to remove someone`s own? if you allow me to engage here, i will only remove your sh**ts, that may help you i think!

[quote author=larride]Wow. I wish I had enough time to respond to all these post one by one. Okay, here it goes.



The word of God was written by men but it they were inspired by the spirit, its a known fact that the bible were collections of history and letters especially the NT which were mostly written to the newly convert and christian. The bible is God inspired and that's why the words in the bible still affect our daily life even though it has been writing for over some thousand years. [/
quote]

Does this your assertion really reflects what Luke gave as his reason for writing to "Most excellent theophilus" as quoted above by the OP?

inspiredbyGOD:.:
^^^^^^^ Is this how you were taught to win souls for Allah? By lying and twisting bible verses. Good luck on your quest to disprove the bible.

We do not win souls. Islam only guides and Allah saves. Btw, show us his lies and twists if you can.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
1 john 5:7 that you quoted never referred to Jesus as the son of the Holy Ghost, all the other verses are not in any way contradictory to each other. Why don't you focus on the errors in your quran first before you try to "expose" 50,000 errors in the bible. May the peace of the LORD be with you.

Just answer the challenge as you should by way of evidence unless of course you have decided to close your eyes and claim that the sun did not rise.

aurenflani:

Just answer the challenge as you should by way of evidence unless of course you have decided to close your eyes and claim that the sun did not rise.

my frnd sharrap!!...i posted a link in 1 of my comments....go dere...den check out errors in d quaran....wen u r thru with reading d errors,come nd gimme feedback.

If u dont gimme any feedback den i knw u've lost d argument,

If you want to remove the broom stick in another person's eye ,you must first remove the plank in your own eye.
I will explain the differences in the bible to you as time goes on,but lets see the lies in the quran first.

LIES IN THE QURAN

Who brings the revelation of the quran to mohammed, in sura sura 2:97 it says Angel Gabriel,but in sura 16:102 it says the Holy spirit. The quran as a book is questionable.

Who was the first muslim?sura 6:14, muhammed,sura 7:143 says moses,sura 26:51 says some Egyptians,sura 2:127 says Abraham. This is a clear case of lies.

Quran forbids believers to marry idolatrous women in sura 2:221. In sura 9:28-33 calls christians idolaters but in sura 5:5 It allows muslims to marry christians.

In sura 2:29 earth was the first creation then heaven, in sura 79 :27-30 heaven and after that earth.

What was man created from.A blood clot in sura 96:1-2,water sura 21:30, 24:45, burned clay in sura 15:26, dust in 3:59,30:20. in sura 19:67 nothing. which one are we to believe.

Why did Allah make mistakes in the writing of the quran as in sura 2:106, sura 16:101. which says"And when we put a revelation in place of another revelation.......they say thou art but inventing .Most of them know not.(abrogation.)

Will Christians enter Paradise or hell? Sura 2:62 & 5:69 said yes, but in sura 5:72 says no insura 3:85

Who misleads people SATAN OR ALLAH? In sura 4:119-120 it says satan but in sura 16 :93 it says Allah.
Allah truely speaking is leading muslims away towards hell.

How many mothers does a muslim have?Only one(sura 58:2), or two (sura 4:23)or ten(sura 33:6)

Was pharaoh killed or not by drowning? sura 17: 102-103 says Pharaoh was killed in the red sea, but sura 10:90-92 says pharaoh was saved.

Can God have a son without a consort?In 19:20-21 says yes, but in sura 6:101 it says no.

You can resite the whole of the quran without knowing a single thing about it, that is why Allah told you in sura
19:70-72 that every muslim will first go to hell b4 they wilk be rescued from hell.

Does Allah's day equal to 1,000 human years(sura 22 47,or 50,000 human years (sura 70:4)

Should muslims show kindness to their parents?yes in sura 17:23-24, 31 :14-15.But no in sura 9 :23 ,sura 58:22.

There are still about 120 others lies like those above in the quran.

A true child child of God knows that the quran is not a holy book if :
If the quran could allow Muhammed to marry his adopted sons wife as in sura 33:37 which says "when he has performed that necessary formality of divorce from her ,we gave her unto thee (Muhammed) in marriage.

But Jesus christ says in Matt 5:32 "But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife ,except on the ground of sexual immorality ,makes her to commit adultery,and who ever marries a divorced woman commits adultery".
This was Jesus speaking about 500 years b4 Muhammed .His birth was by the holy spirit and he showed and performed many miracles like raising the the dead ,opening the eyes of the blind casting out demons etc,which could not have been possible if God was not with him.
It is not surprising why Allah allow Muhammed to be indulging in sexual immoralities.Sura 109:3 says that the christians and the muslims are not worshipping the same God.
If the Allah in the quran ,sura 3::45 said to Mary that "Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him,whose name is the messiah,Jesus Christ ,son of Mary.
And in verse 48 reads" And He will teach Jesus the scripture and wisdom,and the Torah and Gospel.
If truely Allah was the one that taught Jesus the the gospel, and Jesus said "no adultery and one man one woman,why would the same Allah said again to muhammed and his followers to mary more than one wife.Definetely the Allah should be a confusionist.

But I thank God Almighty that the quran made the mistake and said we christians are not worshipping the same God as Allah , sura 109:3.
Is it not written also in sura 53:19 -20 "Have ye thought upon Allat and Al uzza and Manat ,the third ,the other ?Are yours the males and His the female?That indeed were unfair division.

Note the difference between Allat and Allah. It is a naming tradition for the Arabs to differentiate the male from the female by adding letter "t" to the names of their female children. for example Mutiat for female and mutiu for a male.Rashidat ,Risikat.etc.Thats why historicaly the goddess Allat was one of the idols the quarish(muhammed tribe) used to worshipped.

Allah was among the 360 idols that were in the kaaba ,which Muhammed still mantained.That is the reason every muslim most bow and worship Allah god that is in the kaaba.What can be so special about the Kaaba that ,during Haj pilgrimage, everyone would have to circle it for 7 good times and must kiss the black stone on the wall of the kaaba or point their hands towards it .Does that not signifies idolatery.Is God living in the Kaaba?

Sura 11 also says the throne of Allah is upon the water.

Please if you will not accept the lord Jesus who your quran calls "messiah"as the saviour of your sins,you can continue with the worshipping of your idols and stop hindering others from the kingdom of God.Are you not slaves?

Jesus Christ told the pharasees "that the pharasees did not want no enter into the kingdom of God and they would not allow others to go in either.

Continue with your muhammed who married 12 wives and a 9 years old girl at the age of 54 yrs and also the wife of his adopted son ,as stated in the quran qouted above.Your quran in sura 33:50 says "it is okay to have sex with women captured during war that their( captives) right hand possessses.(rape).He did not produce any miracle but claimed his miracle in is the quran, which is full of errors and historical blunders etc.That was why he copied the historical facts he read in the bible into the quran ,because people world wide knew God called Moses,and believed him and Jesus Christ cos of the miracles.

He said in sura 2:41 "And believe in that which I reveal ,confirming that which ye possess already(of the scripture- bible),and be not first to disbelieve.....

Who gave the arabs the bible?.

Pray that God Almighty that created you should show by dreams or revelation ,if it is Christianity that is the way or Islam. If you love your self please pray ,so that the devil will not harvest your soul.

^^ Both Islam and Christianity are similar. The same thing you did for the quran, I can also do that for the bible. They are both full of contradictions

Affiliated: ^^ Both Islam and Christianity are similar. The same thing you did for the quran, I can also do that for the bible. They are both full of contradictions

so are u admitting dat dere are many errors in d quaran....if so....den i advice d mods to close this thread

I'm not the original poster. This was my initial response to the thread

Affiliated: The contradictions listed above can't be argued away. But then again Islam isn't much better. the quran took many of the bible's s.tupid stories and made them more s.tupid