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Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 8:43pm On Mar 20, 2013
After ancient Ebla documents were found. It unbelievably contained all characters and creation account as recorded in the bible. Even more surprisingly, these documents were older than the Jewish Genesis, and so it was concluded that Genesis was copied by the ancient Jews from the Eblas. This view has not gone undisputed. However, dating of the Ebla document confirms that it is much older than the Bible, the question then is, Did God appear to man twice? How come an even more ancient document contained just what a newer version contained with modification? It became apparent that the Old Testament is a great work of plagiarism of the Ebla mysticism with modification and Quran, a great plagiarism of the Old Testament with modification

The ancient kingdom of Ebla boasted a population of 260,000 at the height of its power circa 2300 B.C. The grandson of Sargon the Great, Naram-Sin, destroyed Ebla in 2250 B.C. University of Rome professors Dr. Giavanni Pettinato, an epigrapher, and Dr. Paolo Matthiae, an archaeologist, discovered almost 17,000 tablets in 1975 and 1976 at Tell Mardikh, the ancient Ebla. These tablets are a scholar's treasure trove.

The Ebla tablets are court records and copies of records taken from the royal archives. Dating from around 2300 B.C. to the city's destruction circa 2250 B.C., the tablets name names and places and false deities that are named in the book of Genesis. For example, Adam, Eve, Noah, and the false god Baal are mentioned and so is Abraham's city of Ur. One single text provides 260 geographic names. Others list animals, fish, birds, possessions, and the names of officials.

Most of the tablets are economic records concerning tariffs, receipts, and other commercial and legal matters. Treaties and trade records made with the Hittites were also found. These treaties and agreements are similar in form to treaties recorded in the Old Testament book of Exodus, but they record transactions that occurred long before Abraham bought the Cave of Machpelah from the Hittites of his day. Others are literary texts that include mythology, incantations, rituals, and hymns to false gods. A creation account found among the texts mirrors the Genesis creation narrative.


http://www.netplaces.com/bible-history/uncovering-genesis/the-ebla-tablets.htm

Genesis should not therefore be taken seriously. The Quran also is absolutely ludicrous!!

I apologize to Christians but this is the truth.

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Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Nobody: 8:54pm On Mar 20, 2013
One question Ooman. Considering your sig, I'm quite confused as to the title, content and purpose of the Op. What exactly do you believe and not believe?

Also, feel free to ignore as this might be personal, was your dad a pastor?
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 8:59pm On Mar 20, 2013
musKeeto: One question Ooman. Considering your sig, I'm quite confused as to the title, content and purpose of the Op. What exactly do you believe and not believe?

Also, feel free to ignore as this might be personal, was your dad a pastor?

I quoted a wise man, Creation is a myth.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Nobody: 9:25pm On Mar 20, 2013
Biblical archaeology

Rituals like the release of a scape goat laden with impurities[10] in purification rites connected with a wedding and enthronement were immediately recognized as ancient Near Eastern parallels to Hebrew practice in the first millennium, recorded in Leviticus 16. The application of the Ebla texts to specific places or people in the Bible occasioned controversy, focused on whether the tablets made references to, and thus confirmed, the existence of Abraham, David and Sodom and Gomorrah among other Biblical references.

[8] The sensationalist claims were coupled with delays in the publication of the complete texts, and it soon became an unprecedented academic crisis.[2] The political context of the modern Arab–Israeli conflict also added fire to the debate, turning it into a debate about the "proof" for Zionist claims to Palestine.[8] Among the most notable claims were that the attested presence of "yā" in Eblaite names was a supposed form of Yahweh (a claim that has since been shown to be purely speculative);[11] the election of local kings, claimed to be uniquely reminiscent of practices in early Israel – and a mythological introduction to a hymn to the creator deity at Ebla, said to be akin to the account of creation in Genesis.[2]

However, much of the initial media excitement about supposed Eblaite connections with the Bible, based on preliminary guesses and speculations by Pettinato and others, is now widely deplored as generated by "exceptional and unsubstantiated claims" and "great amounts of disinformation that leaked to the public".[12] The present consensus is that Ebla's role in biblical archaeology, strictly speaking, is minimal.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebla_tablets#Biblical_archaeology
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 9:34pm On Mar 20, 2013
The Ebla tablets, one of the most important archaeogical discoveries of modern times, contain details which confirm a number of the details of Biblical people. Names such as Canaan, Abraham, Saul, Israel, and David have been recognized in the tablets, which date to around 2300 BC. They also contain the oldest reference to Jerusalem, dated to before the time of Abraham (the reference is to Salem, a name from which Jerusalem is derived).

Other details mentioned include Sodom and Gomorrah and a number of other cities of the plains. Even more interesting is that they are noted in the same order as in the Biblical account found in Genesis 14:2 being: Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboiim, and Zoar. Repeatedly critics have ridiculed the idea of the existence of Sodom and Gomorrah and these tablets reveal that they existed even before the time of Abraham.

Another interesting find is the detail of the tribute that was paid by the king of Mari to Ebla after a defeat in battle. Among the payment was 11,000 pounds of silver and 880 pounds of gold. What makes this interesting is how it relates to the tribute money paid to Solomon during his reign. The amount of 10 tons of gold coming to Solomon has been scoffed at as ridiculous (see 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13) when here we have tribute of over half a ton from just one city. This would seem to make the ten tons coming to Solomon as not at all unreasonable given the great difference in size.

Ur, from which Abram left with his father Terah is also mentioned in the Ebla tablets as is Haran.

An important aspect of such a substantial collection is the demonstration of the use of writing in everyday life, around 900 years before Moses. This adds to the evidence from other discoveries, that writing existed in this period of history. This is contrary to one of the major pillars of the 19th century documentary hypothesis of Julius Wellhausen and others, that Moses could not have written the pentateuch because writing, if it existed at all, was not in widespread use.

The Ebla discoveries also included a creation tablet with details similar to the creation account found in Genesis 1. This having been written around 900 years before Moses.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_details_of_the_Ebla_tablets_relate_to_the_Bible_and_how
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Image123(m): 11:34pm On Mar 20, 2013
all the op has done is simply shown that the ebla alludes to the reality of the Biblical accounts. The conclusion is what is ridiculous. Do you want books older than the Bible to contradict its history or what?
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by nlMediator: 4:23am On Mar 21, 2013
If you read a book like Mythology: The Voyage of The Hero, by David Adams Leeming (1998), you’ll find that a number of stories in the Bible are similar to stories also found in other cultures. I see the recurrence of these stories as enhancing their authenticity and credibility. Who wants to keep on re-telling stories that are meaningless and foolish? And why would they be found in different places and survive many generations? Rather than attribute the existence of these stories to plagiarism, there is a simpler and better explanation: dispersal of Adam’s descendants who continued to re-tell these stories and with passage of time, they get variously modified in different cultures. Dr. Halley offered this more persuasive explanation after referencing other traditions, including Persian, Hindu, Greek, Chinese, Mongolians and Tibetans and the Teutons that have similar accounts of our first parents and the Garden of Eden. Henry H. Halley, Halley’s Bible Handbook (25th ed.) at p.93.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 6:14am On Mar 21, 2013
^^^ the ebla docs are older than the bible. This should tell you that the bible alludes to ebla and not vice versa. The Jews do not have/own original version of creation.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Emusan(m): 9:53am On Mar 21, 2013
I know all your mind is that there is no GOD not the Bible, although Bible/Quran is the fundamental book of believing in God. If I may ask you:
>If there is no God, what do you think it will happen to the people living on earth in terms of violent and distructions?
>If nature form out of nothing, who is controlling the law of the universe? Because you can't tell me something happened by chance and be perfect.
>Why planets obey the SUN?
>The particles that formed STARS and PLANETS where did they come from?
>Do you believe in charm?

I thank God all this terminology you people are using few Nigerian christians understand it, and I pray those who understand will not turn back.

I was once like you but God is real.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 10:30am On Mar 21, 2013
Emusan: I know all your mind is that there is no GOD not the Bible, although Bible/Quran is the fundamental book of believing in God. If I may ask you:
>If there is no God, what do you think it will happen to the people living on earth in terms of violent and distructions?

Man's goodness is enough
Emusan: >If nature form out of nothing, who is controlling the law of the universe? Because you can't tell me something happened by chance and be perfect.

I never claimed nature evolved out of nothing. I never claimed evolution is a product of chances and guesses. Only fools claim such. Particle physics revealed energy is contained in baryons. Energy cannot be created. Adaption and natural selection controls nature, chance is out of question.

Emusan: >Why planets obey the SUN?

am not sure i get that. But if its what am thinking, centripetal and centrifugal holds planets in place. THERE IS NO GRAVITY IN SPACE. ANYTHING THAT GOES UP GOES UP IN SPACE.

Emusan: >The particles that formed STARS and PLANETS where did they come from?

Sub-atomic particle are made of charges of energy. Energy cannot be created

Emusan: >Do you believe in charm?

Nah!! charms dont work, i have experimented on them. Dont tell me they do unless you can insert your hand into your computer and shake me from your location, then i will believe.

Emusan: I thank God all this terminology you people are using few Nigerian christians understand it, and I pray those who understand will not turn back.

Sorry but it is not "terminology" or intelligence that makes people atheists. Some are just too dumb to comprehend God himself. Anyway, more people are getting educated so dont hope on people being illiterates forever.

Emusan: I was once like you but God is real.

I was once like you too!
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Emusan(m): 12:20pm On Mar 21, 2013
ooman:

Man's goodness is enough
Alright

ooman:
I never claimed nature evolved out of nothing. I never claimed evolution is a product of chances and guesses. Only fools claim such. Particle physics revealed energy is contained in baryons. Energy cannot be created. Adaption and natural selection controls nature, chance is out of question.
But you believe the universe was not created by God. If God didn't create the universe then who created it? Since you claim nothing about evolution. The major problem you atheist have is that you keep on hammering "ENERGY cannot be created" yet you don't believe God exist. How then ENERGY came into an existence?

ooman:
am not sure i get that. But if its what am thinking, centripetal and centrifugal holds planets in place. THERE IS NO GRAVITY IN SPACE. ANYTHING THAT GOES UP GOES UP IN SPACE.
Thank you, so the centrifugal and centripetal forces that occured in the space that makes planets obey the sun (I use obey because they perform their duty by not leaving their orbit). Why not Earth, Jupiter or Pluto that other planet revolute? because you believe in forces, why the same force didn't make them revolute themselves or was it the sun that is producing these forces?


ooman:
Sub-atomic particle are made of charges of energy. Energy cannot be created
You've not answered my question. The atom or atomic particles you're talking about where do they come from?


ooman:
Nah!! charms dont work, i have experimented on them. Dont tell me they do unless you can insert your hand into your computer and shake me from your location, then i will believe.
I'm not an herbalist but I leave in village before my brother charm is real and God is real.


ooman:
Sorry but it is not "terminology" or intelligence that makes people atheists. Some are just too dumb to comprehend God himself. Anyway, more people are getting educated so dont hope on people being illiterates forever.
Any time topic like this came up I usually ask you, how many experiment/research have you carried out on your own to disprove God existence, have you travelled to the moon, have you been at the depth of an ocean? I believe all your quote are people's work which you never knew the secret that behind it.

Truly some people wrote Bible but I went on to do more findings and I discover there was God. I'm not a pastor, I was born into christian home but I did personal research.
If I begin to tell you, you won't believe me but miracles happen and real.

ooman:
I was once like you too!
If it's true then I advise you carry out a personal findings before it will be too late. Remember, most things Bible prophesied are happening now!
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 2:23pm On Mar 21, 2013
Emusan:
Alright
But you believe the universe was not created by God. If God didn't create the universe then who created it? Since you claim nothing about evolution. The major problem you atheist have is that you keep on hammering "ENERGY cannot be created" yet you don't believe God exist. How then ENERGY came into an existence?

Did you read that energy cannot be created, so it doesnt need a creator. its eternal.

Energy is the simplest form of existence. I believe that such a simple form can be eternal than believing that a complex God simply popped out of nothing. If nothing comes from nothing, where did God come from?

Emusan: Thank you, so the centrifugal and centripetal forces that occured in the space that makes planets obey the sun (I use obey because they perform their duty by not leaving their orbit). Why not Earth, Jupiter or Pluto that other planet revolute? because you believe in forces, why the same force didn't make them revolute themselves or was it the sun that is producing these forces?

sorry but the above is inexplicable. I can't make anything out of it!


Emusan: You've not answered my question. The atom or atomic particles you're talking about where do they come from?

combination of energy. Energy does not need a creator, it is so simple that it is eternal!


Emusan: I'm not an herbalist but I leave in village before my brother charm is real and God is real.

Like am not African too. Look guy, free yourself from fears. There is nothing like charms and juju. Its just us.


Emusan: Any time topic like this came up I usually ask you, how many experiment/research have you carried out on your own to disprove God existence, have you travelled to the moon, have you been at the depth of an ocean? I believe all your quote are people's work which you never knew the secret that behind it.

well i can ask you the same thing. Have you written your own Bible? Have you seen God with your own eyes? Have you seen Jesus? Have you ever been to heaven?

What experiment did you perform to make you think there is a God?


Emusan: Truly some people wrote Bible but I went on to do more findings and I discover there was God. I'm not a pastor, I was born into christian home but I did personal research.
If I begin to tell you, you won't believe me but miracles happen and real.

Why wont i believe you? is it because your hypothesis are unbelievable that you even doubt another person would believe along with you? That is pathetic!


Emusan: If it's true then I advise you carry out a personal findings before it will be too late. Remember, most things Bible prophesied are happening now!

Actually, most things predicted by Nostradamus and other pagans are also happening. So pls, drop your predictive prophecies and get a personal life. God worshiping is a waste of time.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Emusan(m): 4:22pm On Mar 21, 2013
ooman:
Did you read that energy cannot be created, so it doesnt need a creator. its eternal.

Energy is the simplest form of existence. I believe that such a simple form can be eternal than believing that a complex God simply popped out of nothing. If nothing comes from nothing, where did God come from?

I read it well well but it questionable too think about it then if energy is eternal why human bodies rotten? Because I know this energy present in us.

ooman:
sorry but the above is inexplicable. I can't make anything out of it!

Good of you because even scientist and physics can not prove it. Then ask yourself where centrifugal and centripetal force came from or do they really exist as the way they described them?

So far is inexplicable you should know that there is higher force that beyond any proved forces.

ooman:
Like am not African too. Look guy, free yourself from fears. There is nothing like charms and juju. Its just us.

Thank God yuo're not african, but the statue that white man usually buy from africans is for what?



ooman:
well i can ask you the same thing. Have you written your own Bible? Have you seen God with your own eyes? Have you seen Jesus? Have you ever been to heaven?

I will answer yours even though you didn't answer mine.

I havn't wrote any and I will never write one it's God's word my own is to meditate in day and night.

I havn't but I usually feel Him within me everyday because of my sinful nature but with 100% assurance that I will see Him in heaven but you won't see and feel ENERGY after your death.

I will be there when I die.
ooman:
What experiment did you perform to make you think there is a God?

Good but not experiment because that one can't find God. God is a spirit and if you want to see Him you need to engage yourself in some spiritual activities. I prayed and something supernatural happened.

ooman:
Actually, most things predicted by Nostradamus and other pagans are also happening. So pls, drop your predictive prophecies and get a personal life. God worshiping is a waste of time.

It is true but you understand the one I'm talking about.

Let me ask you this please if you cannot provide the answer it is better you find a true church not just church (I mean the one that spoil christians name) to ask for forgiveness and begin to serve God.

All the stories in the Bible do they really happen or is just a fallacy?

Tell me the truth.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by nlMediator: 7:36pm On Mar 21, 2013
ooman: ^^^ the ebla docs are older than the bible. This should tell you that the bible alludes to ebla and not vice versa. The Jews do not have/own original version of creation.

You did not catch the point. There was neither allusion nor plagiarism. The Ebla, like every other human, descended from Adam. They told their (creation) stories as they recollected it as it passed on from Adam down the line. The Jews told theirs, as they recollected it (I'm not mentioning God to make the point clearer to you). So neither is copying from the other. It's like your grandfather had several sons, including your father. He tells them a story about the family. Your father tells you the story he heard from his dad. Your uncles also tell their children what they heard from their dad. Some of your uncles and cousins wrote their story down. Years later, you write down the story your father told you. The fact that your uncles and cousins had the story and wrote it before you does not mean you copied from them or even knew their own written accounts of the story existed. So, you need to drop the plagiarism charge.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 7:54am On Mar 22, 2013
nlMediator:

You did not catch the point. There was neither allusion nor plagiarism. The Ebla, like every other human, descended from Adam. They told their (creation) stories as they recollected it as it passed on from Adam down the line. The Jews told theirs, as they recollected it (I'm not mentioning God to make the point clearer to you). So neither is copying from the other. It's like your grandfather had several sons, including your father. He tells them a story about the family. Your father tells you the story he heard from his dad. Your uncles also tell their children what they heard from their dad. Some of your uncles and cousins wrote their story down. Years later, you write down the story your father told you. The fact that your uncles and cousins had the story and wrote it before you does not mean you copied from them or even knew their own written accounts of the story existed. So, you need to drop the plagiarism charge.

are you saying God appeared to the Eblas first, because the Jews will not take that likely with you!! angry angry
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Image123(m): 10:15am On Mar 22, 2013
ooman:

are you saying God appeared to the Eblas first, because the Jews will not take that likely with you!! angry angry
he's saying that some things in the Bible are undeniable historical facts that was common knowledge at a time.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman2: 10:31am On Mar 22, 2013
Image123:
he's saying that some things in the Bible are undeniable historical facts that was common knowledge at a time.

Am talking about Creation
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Yooguyz: 11:41am On Mar 22, 2013
ooman2:

Am talking about Creation
are you among us who are you?
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 12:49pm On Mar 22, 2013
Emusan:

I read it well well but it questionable too think about it then if energy is eternal why human bodies rotten? Because I know this energy present in us.



Good of you because even scientist and physics can not prove it. Then ask yourself where centrifugal and centripetal force came from or do they really exist as the way they described them?

So far is inexplicable you should know that there is higher force that beyond any proved forces.



Thank God yuo're not african, but the statue that white man usually buy from africans is for what?





I will answer yours even though you didn't answer mine.

I havn't wrote any and I will never write one it's God's word my own is to meditate in day and night.

I havn't but I usually feel Him within me everyday because of my sinful nature but with 100% assurance that I will see Him in heaven but you won't see and feel ENERGY after your death.

I will be there when I die.


Good but not experiment because that one can't find God. God is a spirit and if you want to see Him you need to engage yourself in some spiritual activities. I prayed and something supernatural happened.



It is true but you understand the one I'm talking about.

Let me ask you this please if you cannot provide the answer it is better you find a true church not just church (I mean the one that spoil christians name) to ask for forgiveness and begin to serve God.

All the stories in the Bible do they really happen or is just a fallacy?

Tell me the truth.

sorry but most of what you wrote are inexplicable, but for those that are: the human body rotten because of effects of saprophytes.

For the bible stories, they truly occurred because there are many archaeological proofs. But creation, resurrection and other miracles cannot be proven, so, just like every other myths, they are just wishes and fictions.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 12:57pm On Mar 22, 2013
Yooguyz: are you among us who are you?

Am not a xtian but am not against xtians. am a nontheist.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Emusan(m): 2:38pm On Mar 22, 2013
ooman:

sorry but most of what you wrote are inexplicable, but for those that are: the human body rotten because of effects of saprophytes.

For the bible stories, they truly occurred because there are many archaeological proofs. But creation, resurrection and other miracles cannot be proven, so, just like every other myths, they are just wishes and fictions.

Those inexplicable things is where the graetest widsom of God lies which makes Him superior over everybody.
Saprophytes are just organism in which they also have ENERGY yet they die. Is there any comparison between energy and LIFE?

If I may ask how do you believe universe was formed?
I created one tread this moring you can read it "Almighty God is the creator of the universe no dispute"

Thank God those stories was true, so you believe God parted RED SEA, Naoh built an ark, God created Adam & Eve Sodom & Gomarah was distroyed with fire by God e.t.c
Resurrection & miracles you mean is a formulation or what? Like I said I'm not a pastor but late last year God used me to performed a miracle. I total disagree with you on that because if I was not the one it happened to I won't have believed.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 3:31pm On Mar 22, 2013
Emusan:

Those inexplicable things is where the graetest widsom of God lies which makes Him superior over everybody.
Saprophytes are just organism in which they also have ENERGY yet they die. Is there any comparison between energy and LIFE?

If I may ask how do you believe universe was formed?
I created one tread this moring you can read it "Almighty God is the creator of the universe no dispute"

Thank God those stories was true, so you believe God parted RED SEA, Naoh built an ark, God created Adam & Eve Sodom & Gomarah was distroyed with fire by God e.t.c
Resurrection & miracles you mean is a formulation or what? Like I said I'm not a pastor but late last year God used me to performed a miracle. I total disagree with you on that because if I was not the one it happened to I won't have believed.

You obviously misunderstand me. I said creation, resurrection and other miracles-that include the flood, adam and eve, Noah in fish and all others- they are all myths because they lack proofs.

Concerning God using you- we all do some extraordinary things daily. Its not Gods doing. Its our doing.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Emusan(m): 5:03pm On Mar 22, 2013
ooman:

You obviously misunderstand me. I said creation, resurrection and other miracles-that include the flood, adam and eve, Noah in fish and all others- they are all myths because they lack proofs.

Concerning God using you- we all do some extraordinary things daily. Its not Gods doing. Its our doing.

Is Jonah in fish not Noah.
Extra-waiting? Which power do I have on my own?
Is like you didn't know what I'm talking about..... A child who is almost 2years old can only craw but she has never walked that day the spirit of God moved in me and I went straight to the child I held her by hand and make her to walk (everybody was saying thank God also her mother she was very happy but I told them is God not me because I can't explain how it happened) since that day she has started walking till now. So tell me; is it my power or God? because I don't have such power.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by mazaje(m): 5:28pm On Mar 22, 2013
Emusan:

Is Jonah in fish not Noah.
Extra-waiting? Which power do I have on my own?
Is like you didn't know what I'm talking about..... A child who is almost 2years old can only craw but she has never walked that day the spirit of God moved in me and I went straight to the child I held her by hand and make her to walk (everybody was saying thank God also her mother she was very happy but I told them is God not me because I can't explain how it happened) since that day she has started walking till now. So tell me; is it my power or God? because I don't have such power.

The bolded are pure LIES and remain only a figment of your imagination. . .
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by Emusan(m): 5:40pm On Mar 22, 2013
mazaje:

The bolded are pure LIES and remain only a figment of your imagination. . .

How will you believe it. Anyway you just entered in-between. I'm not a pastor but is an authentic story.

Which one are you? If you're nonthiest read my tread this moring "Almighty God is the creator of the universe and everything no dispute" you can press follow on my profile to see it.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 5:42pm On Mar 22, 2013
Emusan:

Is Jonah in fish not Noah.
Extra-waiting? Which power do I have on my own?
Is like you didn't know what I'm talking about..... A child who is almost 2years old can only craw but she has never walked that day the spirit of God moved in me and I went straight to the child I held her by hand and make her to walk (everybody was saying thank God also her mother she was very happy but I told them is God not me because I can't explain how it happened) since that day she has started walking till now. So tell me; is it my power or God? because I don't have such power.

Sorry about the Jonah-Noah in fish misnomer.

Actually, I believe your story. It is known that females develop and walk sooner than males. she hasn't walked before but it is one day that she will start walking and you happen to be there that particular day and "trained" her and it stuck ever since. This is something that mothers and fathers over the world do, it happens everywhere, to say its God's doing is ignorance.

Once again, we all do some extraordinary things, its not God's doing, its our doing.

Making a baby walk and claiming its God's doing is risible. Try curing a baby of HIV/AIDS without drug and I will believe its God's doing. NB: DONT, YOU WILL KILL THE BABY!!
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by mazaje(m): 5:43pm On Mar 22, 2013
Emusan:

How will you believe it. Anyway you just entered in-between. I'm not a pastor but is an authentic story.

Which one are you? If you're nonthiest read my tread this moring "Almighty God is the creator of the universe and everything no dispute" you can press follow on my profile to see it.

I will believe i if you can replicate it. . .After all your god works in you as you claim. . .I know a baby that is infected with polio, the doctaors say the baby will remain a cripple as long as he lives. . .Can I bring the baby to you to perform your magic in the name of your god?. . .

Your god created the universe, where, when and how?. . .
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by nlMediator: 6:32pm On Mar 23, 2013
ooman:

are you saying God appeared to the Eblas first, because the Jews will not take that likely with you!! angry angry

Your ignorance is showing. I hope your atheism is not founded on such a weak level of reasoning. No Jew would claim that God appeared to the Jews first. God appeared to Adam first. And Adam was not a Jew. Every Jew also knows that Adam had many descendants before anyone thought of the birth of Israel (Jacob). Yes, my response was based principally on the creation story. If you went to p.93 of the Halley book I referred you to, you'll see other traditions regarding the creation story, Garden of Eden and Adam's Fall:

"Persian: Our first parents, innocent, virtuous, and happy, lived in a garden, where there was a tree of immortality, until an evil spirit in the form of a serpent appeared."
Hindu: In the first age, people were free from evil and disease, they had everything they wished for, and lived long.
Greek: The first people, in the golden age, were naked, free from evil and trouble, and enjoyed communion with the gods."

There are other accounts. Which of these traditions is plagiarizing the other?
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by ooman(m): 7:04pm On Mar 23, 2013
Archaeologists think the Jews copied the Eblas. Ebla civilization is older than Adam himself. So shut up and do some reading.
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by mayor23: 7:11pm On Mar 23, 2013
Ooman, pls xplain dis..a woman allighted from a car where she left her husband and 2 kids. Wen she crossed d road she saw and handed a beggar a certain amount.
Immediately she disappeared, d husband sighting wat hapend from afar, crossed d road and created a scene, some passerby startn beating d beggar. D beggar said he should be handled gently and said d woman was in front of d kidnappers that he cant do anything about it. Wen they were about taking him 2 d station, he said for she to come back, d husband must kiss him, after little commotion, he kissed d beggar and they both disappeared leaving the kids as orphans and youre saying charms and juju are not real. This happened 2 wks ago btw
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by mayor23: 7:13pm On Mar 23, 2013
Or would you say its a figment of imagination
Re: Genesis: A Great Work Of Plagiarism by nlMediator: 9:02pm On Mar 23, 2013
ooman: Archaeologists think the Jews copied the Eblas. Ebla civilization is older than Adam himself. So shut up and do some reading.

Let's stipulate that the Jews copied the Eblas and that Ebla civilization long preceded Adam and that I need to do some reading. Now, can you answer my simple question: The Persians, Hindu and Greek have similar stories: Who did they copy from? From each other? From the Eblas?

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