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In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 9:00pm On Mar 21, 2013
Please I need your answers, brothers and sisters
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 9:07pm On Mar 21, 2013
Acidosis: Please I need your answers, brothers and sisters
following
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Popowaa: 9:09pm On Mar 21, 2013
She talks to Jesus

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 9:17pm On Mar 21, 2013
nothing , no one bows to Mary, to do so is to commit a grave sin against GOD.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by anitank(f): 9:26pm On Mar 21, 2013
You do nothing. We just pray to her to intercede on our behalf

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 9:28pm On Mar 21, 2013
Popowaa: She talks to Jesus
even in an emergency?
Like confronting a demon possess individual¿.. Don't you think the demon would disgrace one before She (Mary) deliver the message to the saviour (Jesus)?

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Popowaa: 9:32pm On Mar 21, 2013
Pls i will appreciate it a lot if any catholic can enlighten us on this.
Acidosis:
even in an emergency?
Like confronting a demon possess individual¿.. Don't you think the demon would disgrace one before She (Mary) deliver the message to the saviour (Jesus)?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 9:39pm On Mar 21, 2013
anitank: You do nothing. We just pray to her to intercede on our behalf

Assuming they can hear your prayers (just like any other dead 'immortal' being).. Why pray to them if you can pray directly to God? After all the bible says theres no mediator between men and God, and the only way to God is through Jesus - "NO ONE COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 9:40pm On Mar 21, 2013
anitank: You do nothing. We just pray to her to intercede on our behalf

wrong, you are not to pray to her or ask her to intercede, it is an abomination.

Nowhere in the bible are we asked to pray to Mary, it is an invention of wicked men.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 9:41pm On Mar 21, 2013
Popowaa:
How have you been?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 9:42pm On Mar 21, 2013
frosbel: nothing , no one bows to Mary, to do so is to commit a grave sin against GOD.


sounds true to me

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by greedie1(f): 9:47pm On Mar 21, 2013
Im catholic.... we do not pray to mary or in her name.
Acidosis:

Assuming they can hear your prayers (just like any other dead 'immortal' being).. Why pray to them if you can pray directly to God? After all the bible says theres no mediator between men and God, and the only way to God is through Jesus - "NO ONE COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST


now where in the bible was it recorded dat mary died? or u think it was mistakenly omitted?

I don't get it, u don't believe mary can intercede, but i do... why not live and let live... i ain't questioning ur belief so why question mine?

why do u peeps keep opening thread abt the mother of Jesus wen ur aim isn't to learn but to ridicule?

Im keeping my knowledge to myself, thanks.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Popowaa: 9:58pm On Mar 21, 2013
I ve been around missing u
Acidosis:
How have you been?

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 9:59pm On Mar 21, 2013
gree-die:
Im catholic.... we do not pray to mary or in her name.


now where in the bible was it recorded dat mary died? or u think it was mistakenly omitted?

I don't get it, u don't believe mary can intercede, but i do... why not live and let live... i ain't questioning ur belief so why question mine?

why do u peeps keep opening thread abt the mother of Jesus wen ur aim isn't to learn but to ridicule?

Im keeping my knowledge to myself, thanks.

Worship Jesus , no one asked you to worship his mother, this is the stuff of PAGANs.

".....And someone said to Him, 'Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.' But He answered the one who was telling Him and said, 'Who is My mother and who are My brothers?' And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, 'Behold, My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, He is My brother and sister and mother.'" - Matthew 12:46-50

The funny thing is , when Christ Jesus went up to heaven in the clouds, Mary was just one of the brethren gathered together in the upper room, she was among the prayer warriors who received the Holy Spirit like the rest.

"When they arrived, they went upstairs to the room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. 14 They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers." - Acts 1:13-14

When it was time to address the crowd, it was not Mary the mother of Jesus who spoke but Peter. If Mary was a 'god' , how come Peter led the team ?

15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.” - Acts 1:15-17

Mary was one of the brethren, she was taken care of by John the apostle.

No one prayed to her or worshiped her.

Paul , Peter and the apostles never for once asked us to pray to her or ask her to pray for us.

Stop this pagan madness.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 10:08pm On Mar 21, 2013
Popowaa: I ve been around missing u
I see you some times when I'm online...
is your line available?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Idowuogbo(f): 10:09pm On Mar 21, 2013
frosbel:

wrong, you are not to pray to her or ask her to intercede, it is an abomination.

Nowhere in the bible are we asked to pray to Mary, it is an invention of wicked men.

On point!!

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by An0nimus: 10:11pm On Mar 21, 2013
Wish I could favourite Frosbel's last post like they do on twitter..

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Idowuogbo(f): 10:15pm On Mar 21, 2013
frosbel:

Worship Jesus , no one asked you to worship his mother, this is the stuff of PAGANs.

".....And someone said to Him, 'Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.' But He answered the one who was telling Him and said, 'Who is My mother and who are My brothers?' And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, 'Behold, My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, He is My brother and sister and mother.'" - Matthew 12:46-50

The funny thing is , when Christ Jesus went up to heaven in the clouds, Mary was just one of the brethren gathered together in the upper room, she was among the prayer warriors who received the Holy Spirit like the rest.

"When they arrived, they went upstairs to the room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. 14 They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers." - Acts 1:13-14

When it was time to address the crowd, it was not Mary the mother of Jesus who spoke but Peter. If Mary was a 'god' , how come Peter led the team ?

15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.” - Acts 1:15-17

Mary was one of the brethren, she was taken care of by John the apostle.

No one prayed to her or worshiped her.

Paul , Peter and the apostles never for once asked us to pray to her or ask her to pray for us.

Stop this pagan madness.
Beautiful!! Say no more!! Gbammest!

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Acidosis(m): 10:15pm On Mar 21, 2013
gree-die:
Im catholic.... we do not pray to mary or in her name.


now where in the bible was it recorded dat mary died? or u think it was mistakenly omitted?

I don't get it, u don't believe mary can intercede, but i do... why not live and let live... i ain't questioning ur belief so why question mine?

why do u peeps keep opening thread abt the mother of Jesus wen ur aim isn't to learn but to ridicule?

Im keeping my knowledge to myself, thanks.

grin relax dear... you are my sister. Atleast we use the same bible, and all I'm saying aint my own "words" but God's....

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by greedie1(f): 10:25pm On Mar 21, 2013
frosbel:

Worship Jesus , no one asked you to worship his mother, this is the stuff of PAGANs.

".....And someone said to Him, 'Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.' But He answered the one who was telling Him and said, 'Who is My mother and who are My brothers?' And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, 'Behold, My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, He is My brother and sister and mother.'" - Matthew 12:46-50

The funny thing is , when Christ Jesus went up to heaven in the clouds, Mary was just one of the brethren gathered together in the upper room, she was among the prayer warriors who received the Holy Spirit like the rest.

"When they arrived, they went upstairs to the room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. 14 They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers." - Acts 1:13-14

When it was time to address the crowd, it was not Mary the mother of Jesus who spoke but Peter. If Mary was a 'god' , how come Peter led the team ?

15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.” - Acts 1:15-17

Mary was one of the brethren, she was taken care of by John the apostle.

No one prayed to her or worshiped her.

Paul , Peter and the apostles never for once asked us to pray to her or ask her to pray for us.

Stop this pagan madness.

lol... pagan madness? and you know this because?.. der u go, interpreting the bible according to your level of ignorance...

The Gospel of St. John relates two significant accounts which relate to Mary — the wedding feast of Cana and the Crucifixion. Of the first account we read:
“There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee, and the Mother of Jesus was there. And Jesus also was invited, and His disciples, to the marriage. And the wine failing, the Mother of Jesus said to Him, ‘They have no wine.’ And Jesus said to her, ‘Woman, what is it to Me and to thee? My hour is not yet come.’ His Mother said to the waiters, ‘Whatsoever He shall say to you, do ye’” (John 2:1-5).
Jesus Christ then proceeded to work His first public miracle at His Mother’s request. Everything related in the Gospels is inspired by God, and there is a reason for it. Does not this narrative of the wedding feast manifest the intercessory power of Mary with Jesus Christ, her Divine Son?
In the second account, also take from the Gospel of St. John, we read:
“There stood by the Cross of Jesus His Mother... When Jesus therefore had seen His Mother and the disciple standing whom He loved, He saith to His Mother: ‘Woman, behold thy son...’” (John 19:25-27).
Just as Eve cooperated with Adam in the Fall of mankind, the Blessed Virgin Mary cooperated with Jesus Christ in our redemption. She “stood by the Cross of Jesus.” What anguish, what sorrow did the Mother of Jesus experience at the foot of the Cross as she witnessed the sufferings and death of her Divine Son!
In both accounts, Jesus addressed Mary by the term woman. In Hebrew the word used by Jesus was a term which would be addressed to a queen or a woman of high rank. It was a term of great respect.
But why did Jesus Christ address His Mother by the term woman at these two significant moments in His life — at His first public miracle, and at His Crucifixion on the Cross?
Our Divine Lord wanted to clearly indicate that His Mother was the Woman spoken of in the Book of Genesis:
“I will put enmities between thee (Satan) and the Woman, between thy seed and her seed, and she shall crush thy head.”

catholics do not, as Protestants falsely believe, worship the Blessed Virgin Mary. We honor her who was so intimately connected with Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. Yes, there is only one Mediator with the Father — Jesus Christ. Only the God-Man Jesus Christ could have redeemed mankind. Nevertheless, we pray to Mary that she may intercede for us with her Divine Son. How often we request the assistance of prayers from our fellow men — how much more powerful are the prayers and intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary! In the Old Testament, we read how Moses prayed with arms outstretched and interceded with God to procure the victory of the Israelites over their enemies in a crucial battle. As long as he prayed, they were victorious. When he ceased his prayers, the Israelites began to lose. Because of this, it was necessary for two men to hold up Moses’ arms in prayer until the battle was won. Also, we read in the Old Testament how Josue prayed to God to have the day prolonged in order to win another crucial battle. If Moses and Josue could have such intercession before God, how much more powerful are the prayers of the Blessed Virgin Mary!

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by greedie1(f): 10:30pm On Mar 21, 2013
Acidosis:

grin relax dear... you are my sister. Atleast we use the same bible, and all I'm saying aint my own "words" but God's....
Now point me to the portion of the bible where God said Mary shouldn't be HONOURED

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Popowaa: 10:31pm On Mar 21, 2013
Pls i want to knw,everyone has his or her beliefs and it's not good to judge the other's belief not knowing the facts.
gree-die:
Im catholic.... we do not pray to mary or in her name.


now where in the bible was it recorded dat mary died? or u think it was mistakenly omitted?

I don't get it, u don't believe mary can intercede, but i do... why not live and let live... i ain't questioning ur belief so why question mine?

why do u peeps keep opening thread abt the mother of Jesus wen ur aim isn't to learn but to ridicule?

Im keeping my knowledge to myself, thanks.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Popowaa: 10:33pm On Mar 21, 2013
Yes
Acidosis:
I see you some times when I'm online...
is your line available?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by greedie1(f): 10:41pm On Mar 21, 2013
Popowaa: Pls i want to knw,everyone has his or her beliefs and it's not good to judge the other's belief not knowing the facts.
sometimes its best to stick to wat you know. No human has a right to judge another, facts or not...

fanaticism should be made a sin if it isn't already...... at d end of d day, its not how much we argue. No one is privy to God's judgment yardstick!

We all worship God differently,and He alone sees the heart of men, so why call someone a pagan?
reminds me of d bible passage abt 2 men who were praying and while one was asking for forgiveness, the other was reminding God of how he has lived a holy life and how he isn't a sinner lyk d oda...ilaugh

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Ishilove: 10:43pm On Mar 21, 2013
Wish I could package frosbel and take him home grin tongue

What the Word says is there is only one Mediator, Jesus Christ. I don't understand how Mary managed to become an intercessor

@greedie: I attended a catholice secondary school, so I know for a fact that Catholics ask Mary to pray for human beings.

"Hail Mary, Mother of God,

Pray for us sinners,

Now and forever more. Amen"


A song-

"Mater Amabalis

Ora pronobis

Listen to your children, they are calling on you

Ave sanctissima, ave purissima,

Sinless and beautiful, star of the night"


Not just Mary, but a thousand and one other saints, some of who we've never heard of are asked to pray for the sins of mankind.

They sha say all of them kpakpo should pray for 'us'.

The justification for this is Elisabeth, John the Baptist's mother who declared that Mary was 'blessed and more highly favoured amongst every other woman'. Luke 1vs 42.

And my Lord said in Matthew 15 vs 9: They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

undecided

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Ishilove: 10:46pm On Mar 21, 2013
gree-die:

Now point me to the portion of the bible where God said Mary shouldn't be HONOURED
Honoured to the point of asking her to pray for us?

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 10:56pm On Mar 21, 2013
Frosbel just hit it right on the nail...

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by greedie1(f): 10:56pm On Mar 21, 2013
^^^ just d same way humans pray for u, daddy adebayo and co??
wat is ur problem here dat we worship her or dat we ask her to pray for us? i think d last paragraph of my previous comment dealt with dat, maybe u should read.... and digest

and abt d teaching as doctrine d commandment of men, i assume u believe it was/ is referring to us? do i need to emphasize on how u r again interpreting dbible according to ur ignorance?

i don't need u to believe in my belief, i just want you to respect it. if we are delusional, leave dat to God.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by greedie1(f): 10:57pm On Mar 21, 2013
Ishilove:
Honoured to the point of asking her to pray for us?
again i ask, what authority do u have to question it??

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by woky: 11:10pm On Mar 21, 2013
mary is our mother

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by CrazyMan(m): 11:21pm On Mar 21, 2013
Acidosis: Please I need your answers, brothers and sisters
Mary was just the earthly vessel God use in bringing Jesus into this world.

She's human like you and I...so it would look silly to worship her.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:29pm On Mar 21, 2013
Actually nothing happens IN JESUS NAME as well......smh

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