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United States Of Africa by FMK(m): 7:07am On Apr 17, 2008
Africans becoming so silly complaining everytime about politics and economics crisises so long as other continents united their states to make thing and life easy such as USA in continent of America EEC in Europe and soon as Possible japan, China, Corea will unite to make Asiatic Bloc
but why this kind of initiation has never been started in Africa this very rich continent ? if one day this happens make sure african ladies will not Go abroad in Americas or Europe to play harlot and to be prostitutes and Men will not be humiliated before European and Americans

but first we need to clean our mind full of rubbish then we can
Re: United States Of Africa by bawomolo(m): 2:23pm On Apr 17, 2008
stop dreaming.
Re: United States Of Africa by FMK(m): 4:35pm On Apr 17, 2008
because we are  more  pessimist than optimist   and 
selfishes
Re: United States Of Africa by denuda: 4:41pm On Apr 17, 2008
why do we need a united state of africa,do u know how diverse africa is,it is d most diverse continent d world,if in nigeria,we cant simply agree on simple issues, let alone complex ones,it is fool hardy to assume dat a united state of africa can work.
we should focus on ecowas first,improve trade and political relation in west africa,after that we can start talking about united states of africa.
N.B DO U KNOW HOW BIG AFRICA IS
Re: United States Of Africa by denuda: 4:44pm On Apr 17, 2008
FMK, i think you are very shallow and lack politcal understanding, i do not think you possess a univesity degree,you arguements are flawed from the very onset, it beggars belief, u lack even d simplest level of rationale.
pls leave nairaland 4 people who can make reasoned and rational decision
pls read what you wrote again and think about it properly.OLODO
Re: United States Of Africa by FMK(m): 4:55pm On Apr 17, 2008
maybe the word uniting is confusing this is not breaking administratives limits, but uniting ideas that can help us to minimize our problems we can
Re: United States Of Africa by denuda: 5:05pm On Apr 17, 2008
FMK U ARE STILL TALKING DIS UR RUBBISH, U CANT EVEN WRITE PROPERLY,OLODO,DAT IS WHY UR MATES ARE IN AMERICA AND GERMANY, U ARE IN ANGOLA OF ALL COUNTRIES,WHAT A SHAME.WHAT IDEAS CAN UNITE AFRICA, OLODO PLS GIVE EXAMPLE.I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE WITH LITTLE INTELLIGENCE COME AND TYPE RUBBISH ON nairaland,P;S LEAVE nairaland 4 PEOPLE WHO ARE INTELLIGENT, NOT ASSHOLES LIKE URSELF.
FMK U ARE D MOST FOOLISH PERSON I AVE MET ON NAIRALAND, U OOBVIOUSLY CANNOT REASON,IDIOT,PLS STOP TYPING DIS UR RUBBISH
Re: United States Of Africa by Lady2(f): 5:57pm On Apr 17, 2008
taaaaa what's did nonsense.
who lacks reasoning here? ehn FMK?
Re: United States Of Africa by Cadet(f): 9:42pm On Apr 17, 2008
United States of Africa ko United States of Amala ni. The states in each countries are not even united, talkless of all the states in Africa uniting with each other. abeg, Keep sleeping
Re: United States Of Africa by lucabrasi(m): 9:54pm On Apr 17, 2008
there was a proposal of that natur being championed my ghadaffi,he talked about it publicly sometimes last year threatening to pull out if some african countries where not serious about it,not sure whats come of it tho,it sounds like a good idea on paper and will strenghten africa as a whole especially as the western world always use this weakness to exploit africa,but i dont see it working out because of the complexity of africa and our perculiar politics e.t.c
Re: United States Of Africa by LASIEFAIRE(m): 9:56pm On Apr 17, 2008
FMK:

Africans becoming so silly complaining everytime about politics and economics crisises so long as other continents united their states to make thing and life easy such as USA in continent of America EEC in Europe and soon as Possible japan, China, Corea will unite to make Asiatic Bloc
but why this kind of initiation has never been started in Africa this very rich continent ? if one day this happens make sure african ladies will not Go abroad in Americas or Europe to play harlot and to be prostitutes and Men will not be humiliated before European and Americans

but first we need to clean our mind full of rubbish then we can


First of all
The United States of America is a unification of state and was never that of Sovereign nations. Secondly China, Japan and Korea uniting is not something of a reality given the strained relationship between China and Japan, Korea i.e South and China. Countries Like Nigeria, Kenya, Sudan, South Africa find it extremely difficult keeping a peaceful environment because of the egalitarian and individualistic nature of each of their respective tribes, and you are talking about Uniting Africa. That will be an irreconcilable problem of agenda, innovation clash. This same debate has been brought forward to the Council of O.A.U numerous times and on every occasion it has largely being defeated. Ask yourself why?
Re: United States Of Africa by Kobojunkie: 7:31am On Apr 18, 2008
FMK:

because we are more pessimist than optimist and
selfishes

I believe this is a bogus statement. Africans are not necessarily pessimistic people. If that was the case, there would be no reason why many continue to push to live another day. We, as a people are actually some of the most optimistic on the planet but optimism tends to do better when hard work and push for right over wrong is involved. It is faulty thinking to assume that cause a person speaks of the bad, which in this case is truth, means the person is pessimistic or hates Nigeria/Africa.
Re: United States Of Africa by FMK(m): 9:10am On Apr 18, 2008
what is impossible for Men is Possible for God   can we drop down this biblical verse  ?   i am not talking about religion but,
Re: United States Of Africa by Kobojunkie: 9:11am On Apr 18, 2008
What has God to do with this?? We are speaking of men, people like you and I, not doing what we need to do and you keep trying to bring God into it
Re: United States Of Africa by FMK(m): 9:50am On Apr 18, 2008
my brother,

men depend on this GOd right ? our lives etc, he can be intermediator it is helpfull that is why i bring him here
Re: United States Of Africa by Kobojunkie: 9:54am On Apr 18, 2008
FMK:

my brother,

men depend on this GOd right ? our lives etc, he can be intermediator it is helpfull that is why i bring him here

Men depend on God for what If God gives man work to do and God gives man the resources to accomplish the work. What does it profit man to continue to claim he depends on God when He refuses to use what God has given him to do the work God requires of him?? Is claiming that man depends on God excuse enough for man not to do the work given him?? Is God really happy with men who call his name on every other issue and continue to wallow in laziness and filth, somehow believing God will magically change everything?? Please stop bringing God up in politics when it is clear as day that this is not a God issue but a result of man's continued failure to do his work, something that is inexcusable.
Re: United States Of Africa by 4Play(m): 11:09am On Apr 18, 2008
We can't make "United states of Nigeria" work and we want to expand continent-wide. I wonder when we will stop borrowing ideas from outside and whimsically applying them to Africa.
Re: United States Of Africa by FMK(m): 12:50pm On Apr 18, 2008
okay,
when I created this thread, somepeople thought that i am crazy and considered me as a man with lack of politics ideas and irritional let me tell you the truth that i created this field to got opinions and ideas from each one of you what will be your contribution in this matter, talking about this continent. this just to complete my essay Job (dissertation) the tittle is, but in french ( la complexite d'unir l'afrique) thank you for your contribution and best ideas and helpfull

thread over
Re: United States Of Africa by naijaway(m): 11:07pm On Apr 18, 2008
i feel u fmk, but for it to work out alot of things have to be cut out/ put in inorder to make it look equal like excluding the northern part of Africa, like abolishing the traditional rulers like nepal, like having strict laws against discriminators, like mapping out some kinds of power arrangements, and many more but at the end of the day it is very possible.
Re: United States Of Africa by bawomolo(m): 3:13am On Apr 19, 2008
it's not a united states of africa if u exclude nothern africa. get real
Re: United States Of Africa by redsun(m): 4:56am On Apr 19, 2008
Not even united state of ijaw people yet.

He wants god's intervention,what a delusion.
Re: United States Of Africa by panafrican(m): 5:09am On Apr 19, 2008
We are waging the fight and we have not given up. Do not underestimate the foreign dumping factors. Many have tried in the past. They were cut off brutally. Nkruma and Lumumba have tried. Ahmed sekou Toure has tried.
No-one listen to Gadafi today.But still we believe in it and it will come one day or another.
Re: United States Of Africa by Horus(m): 1:44pm On Feb 26, 2010
We have to create also a common currency for The United States Of Africa.
Re: United States Of Africa by violent(m): 2:25pm On Feb 26, 2010
denuda:

FMK, i think you are very shallow and lack politcal understanding, i do not think you possess a univesity degree,you arguements are flawed from the very onset, it beggars belief, u lack even d simplest level of rationale.
pls leave nairaland 4 people who can make reasoned and rational decision
pls read what you wrote again and think about it properly.OLODO

denuda:

FMK U ARE STILL TALKING DIS your RUBBISH, U CANT EVEN WRITE PROPERLY,OLODO,DAT IS WHY your MATES ARE IN AMERICA AND GERMANY, U ARE IN ANGOLA OF ALL COUNTRIES,WHAT A SHAME.WHAT IDEAS CAN UNITE AFRICA, OLODO PLS GIVE EXAMPLE.I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE WITH LITTLE INTELLIGENCE COME AND TYPE RUBBISH ON nairaland,P;S LEAVE nairaland 4 PEOPLE WHO ARE INTELLIGENT, NOT ASSHOLES LIKE URSELF.
FMK U ARE D MOST FOOLISH PERSON I AVE MET ON NAIRALAND, U OOBVIOUSLY CANNOT REASON,IDIOT,PLS STOP TYPING DIS your RUBBISH

If you can't contribute without insulting the writer, then shut the fcking hell up and move to the "ìdiots" section, where your ideas might be more valuable
Re: United States Of Africa by Veritas09: 3:11pm On Feb 26, 2010
If you're seriously considering this "United States of Africa" as its own sovereign state, you might need to get real, get a map, and read a book.

An economic union would certainly be more realistic, but there's too much instability at the moment for that idea to even seem plausible right now.
Re: United States Of Africa by proo212(m): 11:34pm On Feb 26, 2010
Ah I see we have some NWO or Fabian Socialists in here, calling for USAf grin
Re: United States Of Africa by Eddeux(m): 1:36am On Feb 27, 2010
nonsense. If African countries can't even tame their irresponsible leaders/militaries and put a stop to all the tribalism then how will it unite as one bloc? What would be the economic benefits of it? What about political? I think African countries need to get their acts together first and try to improve the quality of living in their countries before looking to create a unified continental union. Besides, isn't there already one called the AFRICAN UNION? What has it done for Africa? Somalia is still lawless, South Africa still has the world's highest crime rates, Kenya still has corrupt politicans, NIGERIA still produces far smaller energy than SA, DR Congo (can't even get started on them) is still a mess, Mugabe is still ruling Zimbabwe, ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC!! Regional blocs such as ECOWAS would possibly be better then gradually head for a continential union.

To list some of the strides Africa has made:
- many countries have some of the world's fastest growing economies (Angola, Ghana, Liberia, DR Congo, Botswana) w/ countries such as Tanzania possibly joining the group of fast growing economies
- Political stability seems to be occuring in multiple countries
- filled with vast amount of resources (and cheap labor which promotes development of industry which ALL countries need when first developing)
- economic growth on the continent as a whole is much faster than the developed world and even Asia I think
- 2010-2020 WILL BE THE AFRICAN DECADE

"In economic terms, Africa has long been written off as a basket case of corruption, war and poverty. But things are changing. Better governance is emerging, particularly in countries like Ghana, mobile telephony is helping to bring remote areas into the modern era, and the Chinese are helping to build modern infrastructure in return for - you guessed it - energy and commodities. (so China grows by exporting to the US, and much of Asia and Africa is growing by exporting to China and similar 'primary' exporters)" http://www.economywatch.com/economy-business-and-finance-news/12-fastest-growing-economies-in-2010-13-10.html

But, if a United States of Africa is ever achieved, you guys can't take the USA ancronym, it's already ours![/color]

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