If cars,houses,computers even cloths can have a maker then Human being can never be an accident as proclaimed by some groups. Like begets like,accident can only beget accidents,only the programmed can programme.There is surely a maker you may call HIM whatever name u like all i believe is HUMANS are too programmed to be an accident.I dont know about some animals who believe they evolved from apes.For me im specially and wonderfully made.So called atheist think now HABA!!!

Its glaring. But who won't see, won't see.

My fellow nairalanders,i believe im not alone in this thought

Deep Sight:
Its glaring. But who won't see, won't see.

Thats why i want them to have a rethink may be their eyes will open

A platform/environment (an existential primary) is necessary upon design can take place. As I always say, a designer merely alters/manipulates his environment to his desires/wishes/needs.

A designer does not stand alone, he necessarily requires an enivronment with rules he understands/appreciates, and thereafter manipulates.

We humans do design our machines and fashion tools that work in line with the present physical laws. A knife is pointed for the obvious reason of resistance. Our cars move faster by abiding to the laws of motions. We adjust our space gadgets to the demands and specs of outer space.

My point is God as a designer is not the root cause of our cosmological trauma, rather questions should be focussed on the existent primary platform. "Why is there Something rather Nothing"

Also, humans dangerously project themselves as an anthropomorphic God, with equal desires and wants and motives.

Agreed @Kay 17 I believe the designer(God) has deposited the potentials to manipulate and create in human from the beginning only to make use of it when required(might not be easy but with exercise and persistence whatever human need will be accomplihed)

^^^ hence we can dispense with the necessity of God.

Deep Sight:
Its glaring. But who won't see, won't see.

dat's y d bible calls them fools.
Havg eyes they cant see. Educated to d highest degree they cant think.
See wat satan has fed thinkg man with?
Put nails,saw,timber,roofg sheets travel to d next solar system party and hav grandbabies. Get bored of tht life, zap back to earth (billions of years later, if u cud live eternally) And lo and Behold, chance,randomness,natural selection wud hav built u a villa. With a jacuzzee, central heatg, and wiring! This wudnt happen in a year but after many years as if randomness acquires capability in time. !! Junk and garbage. God help the atheists..
They want to teach (indoctrinate) children with these poo.

You are not an accident. Evolution is not synonymous with accidental inventions.

You are the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution, live like it.

ooman: You are not an accident. Evolution is not synonymous with accidental inventions.

You are the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution, live like it.

ooman, don't be this dumb na... ;DABeg, na beg i dey beg you..
could you please show me a prove of evolution??
Just a proof...
You haven't seen GOD with your own eyes, neither did you see evolution

ooman: You are not an accident. Evolution is not synonymous with accidental inventions.

You are the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution, live like it.

evolution , predtermined tht they shd b a man after Nonlife birthed Life!
Evolution wrked dramatically weavg amazg strands of new life until it reached its magnus opus: man and his baboon cousin.
Then slowed dwn. And stopped being so ambitious...
Man caught religion and now the evolution police it out to spread the word..
The gud news tht we came frm monkeys. Share a common ancestry with chimps..
Time is d great cause agent in this case..

ooman: You are not an accident. Evolution is not synonymous with accidental inventions.

You are the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution, live like it.

Thank God u know u not an accident but can u kindly explain and proof ur evolution?

kambo:

evolution , predtermined tht they shd b a man after Nonlife birthed Life!
Evolution wrked dramatically weavg amazg strands of new life until it reached its magnus opus: man and his baboon cousin.
Then slowed dwn. And stopped being so ambitious...
Man caught religion and now the evolution police it out to spread the word..
The gud news tht we came frm monkeys. Share a common ancestry with chimps..
Time is d great cause agent in this case..

Wrong. Revolution has neither goals nor foresight. It is a completely blind, undirected process. The only reason why humans have evolved our level of intelligence is because it gives us a survival advantage.

Its not as if evolution intended to make us intelligent. Intelligence and complexity are not the goals of evolution.

Bacteria have been evolving for 3.5 billion years and they haven't become intelligent. That's because intelligence is not required to be successful in their own biological niche. And from a sheer numbers perspective, they are much more successful than humans.

Also, human evolution hasn't stopped. our species is still evolving. We're just not seeing it because the changes happens over hundreds of generations and nobody lives that long.

Evil Brain:

Wrong. Revolution has neither goals nor foresight. It is a completely blind, undirected process. The only reason why humans have evolved our level of intelligence is because it gives us a survival advantage.

Its not as if evolution intended to make us intelligent. Intelligence and complexity are not the goals of evolution.

Bacteria have been evolving for 3.5 billion years and they haven't become intelligent. That's because intelligence is not required to be successful in their own biological niche. And from a sheer numbers perspective, they are much more successful than humans.

Also, human evolution hasn't stopped. our species is still evolving. We're just not seeing it because the changes happens over hundreds of generations and nobody lives that long.

if man was less intelligent thn he now is, it doesnt mean he evolved.
A kid doesnt evolve new cerebra to acquire new knowledge. He is built with capacity already to adapt mentally .

If man came frm a common terrestrial animal an issue arises.
All other animals adapted physcally to their environment with little or no complex reasong improvements beyond d rudimentary.
The same terra firma hosted different kinds of animals. M.orons. Animals . We all know animals cant think. Since animals cant thnk, they core need of an animal is sustenance, food.
Primal procreation urge.s , i wont even classify wat they do as s.ex -thts for man,
survival urges - self preservation. Few animals will standby and watch u kill them.
Food,procreation,self preservation.
These needs faced all animals ,and all satisfied d needs ,primitively (assumg evolutions stance) .. And over the years this needs ar still d same burdens d next animal will face.
Thru selectve matg they cud b som body changes,slight. E.g negroid matg with caucasian will birth slightly diffrent offsprings.
Yet wen this needs , basic animal needs confronted a partcular animal class, it reacted differently. Grew a brain, learnt how to farm, built towns and invented money...,
all frm reactg to d same basic animal needs. and u guys say u dnt believe in mirtacles. And of all the animals that faced the same undiscriminatg needs only this one reacted so differently and Advancedly.
Sorry, too hard to swallow too chancey.
Man was purpose built.
Thats wat d bible says.

kambo:

if man was less intelligent thn he now is, it doesnt mean he evolved.
A kid doesnt evolve new cerebra to acquire new knowledge. He is built with capacity already to adapt mentally .

If man came frm a common terrestrial animal an issue arises.
All other animals adapted physcally to their environment with little or no complex reasong improvements beyond d rudimentary.
The same terra firma hosted different kinds of animals. M.orons. Animals . We all know animals cant think. Since animals cant thnk, they core need of an animal is sustenance, food.
Primal procreation urge.s , i wont even classify wat they do as s.ex -thts for man,
survival urges - self preservation. Few animals will standby and watch u kill them.
Food,procreation,self preservation.
These needs faced all animals ,and all satisfied d needs ,primitively (assumg evolutions stance) .. And over the years this needs ar still d same burdens d next animal will face.
Thru selectve matg they cud b som body changes,slight. E.g negroid matg with caucasian will birth slightly diffrent offsprings.
Yet wen this needs , basic animal needs confronted a partcular animal class, it reacted differently. Grew a brain, learnt how to farm, built towns and invented money...,
all frm reactg to d same basic animal needs. and u guys say u dnt believe in mirtacles. And of all the animals that faced the same undiscriminatg needs only this one reacted so differently and Advancedly.
Sorry, too hard to swallow too chancey.
Man was purpose built.
Thats wat d bible says.

You can't claim animals lack consciousness, cos Consciousness is an intrinsic fact known only by the being itself.

Kay 17:

You can't claim animals lack consciousness, cos Consciousness is an intrinsic fact known only by the being itself.

where did i say dat?

^^

The part you said they can't think.

Kay 17: ^^

The part you said they can't think.

think= Reason . Beyond rudimentary instinctive level all complex lifeforms display.

Thinkg is not required for consciousness.

Op, you've heard of natural selection?

Toluwarni:
ooman, don't be this dumb na... ;DABeg, na beg i dey beg you..
could you please show me a prove of evolution??
Just a proof...
You haven't seen GOD with your own eyes, neither did you see evolution

Have you ever heard of dogs? seen one? then ask around, they are results of human artificial selection started in asia.

Thats evolution staring at you.

kambo:

evolution , predtermined tht they shd b a man after Nonlife birthed Life!
Evolution wrked dramatically weavg amazg strands of new life until it reached its magnus opus: man and his baboon cousin.
Then slowed dwn. And stopped being so ambitious...
Man caught religion and now the evolution police it out to spread the word..
The gud news tht we came frm monkeys. Share a common ancestry with chimps..
Time is d great cause agent in this case..

absolute nonsense, totally pathetic!

wiegraf: Op, you've heard of natural selection?

Olodo, did natural selection program the dna of the first living things?

5cassava sticks:
Olodo, did natural selection program the first living things?

what do you know of the "first" living things

ooman:

what do you know of the "first" living things

what do you know of natural selection?

5cassava sticks:
what do you know of natural selection?

I know man

5cassava sticks:
Olodo, did natural selection program the dna of the first living things?

Errm, yes, very likely something similar to natural selection programmed the first dna. That should be obvious, no?

Btw, from prophecy to advocate to anslkjfeulzad. What's the point of this id? This one is rather childish and moronic, and it achieves nothing of value. For instance, the eediot bolaino is probably taking a cue from you, 'criticizing' atheists with foolish logic. He now thinks himself some crusader I suppose.

When you start pulling your shenanigans, (the silly aim I think to make yourself seem superior to all parties, atheist, theist, etc, my good alfa) what do you gain? Your eediotic BB thread for instance, what was the purpose? Surely you can't be this bored?