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| "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by jerrywool: 5:14pm On May 23, 2013 |
Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists. During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace. Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio. “They complain,” the Pope said in his homily, because they say, “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good.” And Jesus corrects them: “Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good.” The disciples, Pope Francis explains, “were a little intolerant,” closed off by the idea of possessing the truth, convinced that “those who do not have the truth, cannot do good.” “This was wrong . . . Jesus broadens the horizon.” Pope Francis said, “The root of this possibility of doing good – that we all have – is in creation” Pope Francis went further in his sermon to say: "The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can... "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!".. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.” Responding to the leader of the Roman Catholic church's homily, Father James Martin, S.J. wrote in an email to The Huffington Post: "Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That's always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a "ransom for all." But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it's a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories." Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don't believe will be redeemed, and the Pope's words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works. source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/pope-francis-good-atheists_n_3320757.html 1 Like |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Tpfkakambo(m): 8:29pm On May 23, 2013 |
an ignorant pope spreadg heresy vs d word of God? "except a man be born again, he shall not enter the kingdom of God" "man's righteousness is as filthy rags.. " . If man's goodness cud help a man make heaven Christ needed not to die. 5 Likes |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:18pm On May 23, 2013 |
Tpfkakambo: an ignorant pope spreadg heresy vs d word of God? "except a man be born again, he shall not enter the kingdom of God" "man's righteousness is as filthy rags.. " . If man's goodness cud help a man make heaven Christ needed not to die. is the heaven your family house? See this crazy christian claiming right for catholic heaven. You are totally brainwashed. Well, I dont give a damn about christian heaven. I prefer satanist hell or the muslim heaven. I cant sing and praise god for eternity in christian heaven. I wanna flex with chicks in hell 4 Likes |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by plaetton: 11:26pm On May 23, 2013 |
Tpfkakambo: an ignorant pope spreadg heresy vs d word of God? "except a man be born again, he shall not enter the kingdom of God" "man's righteousness is as filthy rags.. " . If man's goodness cud help a man make heaven Christ needed not to die. Have you forgotten that the catholic church is THE CHURCH? Do you think that you half-baked (more like roasted) pentecostal brain knows more about the words of Jesus than Pope Francis? He he he. A wayward child repudiating his mother. An Abomination. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by onuleo(m): 11:30pm On May 23, 2013 |
'If u ask me? Na hu i go ask?' dz one iz gona b hot! FP Sharply! Athiest go d hapi 4 dm mind nw. Lol... Bt seriously dey z nthn lyk athiest.. U eida hav hope or u r hopeles.. Ehen.. Hehehe Try me |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by onuleo(m): 11:35pm On May 23, 2013 |
An ehen.. 'Purgatory iz involed' smtn sumcioz.. E dn red |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Ubenedictus(m): 12:35am On May 24, 2013 |
hey careful here those francis is speaking in a private mass to a particular set of people, those comment are not meant to challenge salvation by grace but to highlight that goodness is part of humanity |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by tobechi74: 12:42am On May 24, 2013 |
even after reading this,some catholic haters will still accuse the church of proclaiming that only catholics will go to heaven |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Nobody: 1:25am On May 24, 2013 |
Lol. Na on top Pope head. Wetin person wan go find for heaven? God, if u dey there, no vex o. I like earth well, well. You say as we believe, na so e go be. So see as we go do am. Carry the Christians go heaven, make dem use their everlasting life dey sing song, dey release album. Carry all the other people wey dey worship fake God, make dem go roast for your oven. For atheists, just leave us for earth. We can make earth our heaven. Thank you. 4 Likes |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by plaetton: 1:42am On May 24, 2013 |
musKeeto: Lol. Na on top Pope head. Wetin person wan go find for heaven? Shortly after rapture, Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the ..........? Your guess is as good as mine.  |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by UyiIredia(m): 2:02am On May 24, 2013 |
A possible pointer to how religion would evolve if there was a dharp increase in the numbers of atheist. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Tpfkakambo(m): 2:05am On May 24, 2013 |
plaetton: YOu an atheist speaking from the darkness of ur mind.. what dyu know? Go and get saved and filled with the Holy spirit b4 u try to interprete the Bible..its a closed book to u. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Tpfkakambo(m): 2:09am On May 24, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE:Your right its a catholic heaven. Dyu know that when the catholic church ran out of money once they sold bans (certificates) granting the holder access to heaven? This is the junk u get wen an apostacy is believed... no be only atheists in heaven. Son prostitutes and politicians who've looted the treasury will begin buyg plots in glory land!! 1 Like |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Ubenedictus(m): 2:30am On May 24, 2013 |
Tpfkakambo:i hope you know the bolded is a distortion of facts |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Nobody: 3:31am On May 24, 2013 |
Tpfkakambo:Lol. What a clown. If you need the 'Holy Spirit' to understand the Bible, no one would go through the hassle of translating it to different languages. 1 Like |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Vansnickers: 4:57am On May 24, 2013 |
Tpfkakambo: LOL! Someone is pissed! Don't worry bro, Heaven is yours. Go there and sing to your Sky-daddy for eternity. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Pygru: 10:44am On May 24, 2013 |
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| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Mranony: 12:49pm On May 24, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: hey careful here those francis is speaking in a private mass to a particular set of people, those comment are not meant to challenge salvation by grace but to highlight that goodness is part of humanityLol, seriously? Remind me again; is eternal life based on good works or salvation through Christ? |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by AtheistD(m): 1:42pm On May 24, 2013 |
Tpfkakambo: And these pentecostal prosperity preachers with their tithes and seeds are doing any better? Many have sold plots to GEJ and other politicians... meanwhile, they have all their investments and business empires on earth  |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by bongila(f): 3:42pm On May 24, 2013 |
 Hmmmm! Pope! Anyways,the scriptures cannot be broken! |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Ubenedictus(m): 5:36pm On May 24, 2013 |
Mr anony: is eternal life based on good works or salvation through Christ?ofcourse, the later, salvation through the death of christ. It is interesting to note that pope francis never said atheist who do good will make heaven, |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Pygru: 8:37pm On May 24, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: ofcourse, the later, salvation through the death of christ. It is interesting to note that pope francis never said atheist who do good will make heaven, http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/23/heaven-for-atheists-pope-sparks-debate/?sr=fb052413popeatheist330p |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by truthislight: 9:21am On May 25, 2013 |
Pygru: Why will he not say so?(that atheist will go to heaven) is it not his RCC that is making the majority of atheist we know?(like in this forum). He is sending out a hand of condolence to pacify them. Smh |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by AtheistD(m): 9:37am On May 25, 2013 |
truthislight: Was it not RCC that also became protestant too |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Pygru: 9:59am On May 25, 2013 |
truthislight: 1 Like |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by okeyxyz(m): 5:15pm On May 25, 2013 |
Pope don drink shekpe finish, Now he dey vibrate |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by ooman(m): 5:39pm On May 25, 2013 |
I'd rather go to hell. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by ijawkid(m): 5:51pm On May 25, 2013 |
The truth is atheist don't even want to go to heaven.........the best thing is to leave them alone......... 3 Likes |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by truthislight: 10:31pm On May 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: The truth is atheist don't even want to go to heaven.........the best thing is to leave them alone......... How can they want to go and see the one they have use their short life to curse for? No mind the so call pope that dont even understand what God desires are. He only wants them to remain in this their present condition. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by thehomer: 10:42pm On May 25, 2013 |
The pope said it, I believe it, That settles it. |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Ubenedictus(m): 1:17am On May 26, 2013 |
Pygru:this site had a balanced approach to what the pope said, he said the death of Christ redeems everyone, that is the doctrine of universal atonement. but he never said everyone is goes to heaven. The death of Christ has objectively redeemed everyone in theological terms, what remains is subjective redemption that is accepting Christ's death on the cross through faith. that is theology that is why i said earlier that the audience he is speaking to must be considered |
| Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by Ubenedictus(m): 1:18am On May 26, 2013 |
truthislight:clap for yourself |
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