@okine4real, I ve done some research abt dis issue of how many litres can 1 get fro a number of palm trees. I wan to use manual method being apply in rural areas in north central nigeria where palm tend to do well. Here, dey count d number of bunches and a drum. 15 matures bunches of palm head wil giv u a drum of palm kernel which if process wil produced 20-25 litres of palm oil. Using a hybrid palm tree dat fro a palm tree 1 can harvest up to 10 to 12 heads. Put it dis way, if fro 2 palm trees we can get 30 liites of palm oil den fro a 1000 palm trees 1 can harvest abt 15000 litres of palm oil. I also got fro a reIiable source in a plantation in akure dat fro 200 palm trees dey harvest abt 1200 litres of palm oil. hope house, am correct too

When calculating ,it is always better to use average values. But from what I know a matured palm can give up to 50 litre of oil depending on a lot of factors. rainfall, fertilizer application. mantainance and extraction method used .average yeilds may varry across nig.

Yes certain factors like spacing of the palms, application of fertiliers, clearing from bush fire mantainance of the palm trunk and general mantainance of the farm also affect yield. If all the necessary factors ar put in place d palms wil start yielding in d first 3yrs of planting and btw the next 10-15 yrs d palms wil be at der peak.

MANGAM: @okine4real, I ve done some research abt dis issue of how many litres can 1 get fro a number of palm trees. I wan to use manual method being apply in rural areas in north central nigeria where palm tend to do well. Here, dey count d number of bunches and a drum. 15 matures bunches of palm head wil giv u a drum of palm kernel which if process wil produced 20-25 litres of palm oil. Using a hybrid palm tree dat fro a palm tree 1 can harvest up to 10 to 12 heads. Put it dis way, if fro 2 palm trees we can get 30 liites of palm oil den fro a 1000 palm trees 1 can harvest abt 15000 litres of palm oil. I also got fro a reIiable source in a plantation in akure dat fro 200 palm trees dey harvest abt 1200 litres of palm oil. hope house, am correct too

I do not think your calculation is correct ohhh. But the one of 200 palm tree producing about 1200 liters is more correct and i think its also similar to mine own calculation. Remember i said it all depends on the density of the oil. You would agree with me that, if you buy palm oil in 20 liters, and if its in a liquid form that is one part, also if you take that same oil and you make it solidify, you would agree with me that, since the oil has solidify, the oil would not full to the top of the 20 liters keg anymore, at this level, the oil density is more ticker than the oil which is in a liquid form.

Let me put it this way, if mine palm oil is ticker, i would need a 30 liter gallon to fill a 20 liter gallon

But if mine oil is in liquid form, a 20 liter gallon would fill a 20 litter gallon.

This is why you would notice, if you want to cook beans and your oil is in a solid form, you just need to pour a little content of that solidified oil in the beans, and once that is done, you would notice, the oil would now melt and you would then notice that, you have lots of oil on top of the beans. meaning a lot of oil has come together to form a little oil in your sight.

But if your oil is in liquid form, you would need to pour lots of oil in the beans.

So therefore, its the density that determines the amount of liters.


Also put it this way.. if i sell oil to you, and i have mixed lots of water with mine oil, i would have more liters to sell, than someone whom is selling palm oil that is not mixed with water.


From what i know... one hectare would give you two and half tonne of palm oil and half tone of palm kernel oil. But it is the density of the oil that determines the liters or should i say its the thickness of the oil that determines how many liters one would get.

That is why companies buying diesel in large quantity check the density of diesel before they buy. If you mix diesel with kerosine, the diesel would be lighter and you have more liters of diesel. I hope am making sense.

I got it now and let's settle for this calculation and btw d nex 3yrs some of us like okine4real wil give us first hand xperience

okine4real:

I do not think your calculation is correct ohhh. But the one of 200 palm tree producing about 1200 liters is more correct and i think its also similar to mine own calculation. Remember i said it all depends on the density of the oil. You would agree with me that, if you buy palm oil in 20 liters, and if its in a liquid form that is one part, also if you take that same oil and you make it solidify, you would agree with me that, since the oil has solidify, the oil would not full to the top of the 20 liters keg anymore, at this level, the oil density is more ticker than the oil which is in a liquid form.

Let me put it this way, if mine palm oil is ticker, i would need a 30 liter gallon to fill a 20 liter gallon

But if mine oil is in liquid form, a 20 liter gallon would fill a 20 litter gallon.

This is why you would notice, if you want to cook beans and your oil is in a solid form, you just need to pour a little content of that solidified oil in the beans, and once that is done, you would notice, the oil would now melt and you would then notice that, you have lots of oil on top of the beans. meaning a lot of oil has come together to form a little oil in your sight.

But if your oil is in liquid form, you would need to pour lots of oil in the beans.

So therefore, its the density that determines the amount of liters.


Also put it this way.. if i sell oil to you, and i have mixed lots of water with mine oil, i would have more liters to sell, than someone whom is selling palm oil that is not mixed with water.


From what i know... one hectare would give you two and half tonne of palm oil and half tone of palm kernel oil. But it is the density of the oil that determines the liters or should i say its the thickness of the oil that determines how many liters one would get.

That is why companies buying diesel in large quantity check the density of diesel before they buy. If you mix diesel with kerosine, the diesel would be lighter and you have more liters of diesel. I hope am making sense.

@igbonia, hw ar u palms?

THIS THREAD IS A WONDERFUL CLASSROOM. I LEARN NEW THINGS ANYTIME I COME HERE.

For you guys that have planted already or are looking to plant soon, the future is bright. I've been reading article upon article about the increasing demand for palm oil globally and how companies are switching from other kinds of oil to palm for their industrial production. The future is surely bright.

Read New York times article below.

You may have never set eyes on an oil palm tree, but it’s probably an intimate part of your everyday life. Whether you start your day with a shave or an application of lipstick, you are probably putting the oil from the tree’s fruits on your face. You buy a donut on the way to work, and with each bite, you swallow some of the palm oil in which it was cooked. After work, you stop at the supermarket, and about half the products on the shelves contain palm oil. Before bed, you scrub your face with soap and brush your teeth with toothpaste. They’re both palm oil’s way of wishing you good night.

In just the past few decades, the oil palm tree Elaeis guineensis has become a huge global industry. In 1961, the world’s palm oil plantations produced 1.7 million tons of oil; today that figure is up to 64 million tons a year. A single acre of oil palm trees can generate up to $4,500 annually. Those prices will probably stay high in decades to come, as demand for the oil increases. China and India are now shifting to using palm oil for cooking food, for example, and some countries are exploring palm oil as a biofuel.


But the oil palm tree industry is also an environmental disaster, according to many conservation biologists. The tree “grows best in those parts of the world that support tropical rainforests,” said Ben Phalan of the University of Cambridge. “Oil palm expansion in recent decades has been one of the main drivers of deforestation in Southeast Asia.”

That expansion has helped push many species, including pygmy elephants and orangutans, closer to extinction. The palm oil industry is also leaving its mark on the atmosphere. Some farmers use fire to clear land for plantations, and swampy forests converted to stands of oil palm trees become more prone to burning. The forests, which store huge amounts of carbon, release it into the atmosphere after they are replaced by plantations.

On Wednesday a team of Malaysian and American scientists published a pair of papers in Nature on the genome of this profoundly important tree. In its 34,802 genes, they have been able to reconstruct millions of years of its evolution. They hope to use that knowledge to grow better trees that can yield more oil — and possibly reduce the pressure on the world’s remaining rain forests.

Conservation biologists hail the research, but caution about its potential to help the environmental crisis. The solution to the palm oil problem, they say, lies beyond its DNA.

The ancestors of oil palms split off from date palms about 70 million years ago. They grew across Africa and South America, which were still joined at the time. Over millions of years, the two continents split apart, taking their oil palms with them. And along the way, oil palms got oily.

Most flowering plants grow oil in their seeds as a way to supply their offspring with an energy supply. But some also grow oil in their fruit to attract animals, which eat the fruit and spread the seeds in their droppings. The genome team uncovered some of the molecular changes behind this evolution. Oil palm trees switch on some seed-oil genes in their fruits, for example.

The researchers discovered that a single gene, called SHELL, has a powerful effect on how much oil is produced by different varieties of the tree. Mutations to SHELL can raise the yield of the palm by as much as 30 percent.

Tree breeders will now be able to test seeds to see if they carry the high-yield version of SHELL, for example, rather than waiting for six years for the seed to grow into a tree that bears fruit.

The researchers also hope that their public release of the genome will allow other scientists to pinpoint more genes that might be useful for improving oil palm trees, such as resisting drought and diseases. “We’re not going to stop here,” said Ravigadevi Sambanthamurthi, a biochemist at the Malaysian Palm Oil Board and a co-author of the papers. The board, which is financed by the Malaysian government, paid for most of the research.

Genome-driven improvements to oil palm trees, the researchers argue, could allow farmers to produce more oil on less land. Writing in Nature, they claim that the genome will “help to achieve sustainability for biofuels and edible oils, reducing the rainforest footprint of this tropical plantation crop.” (As a food, palm oil is high in saturated fats, considered unhealthy by the American Heart Association.)

The new study is “a major breakthrough,” said David Edwards, a conservation biologist at James Cook University in Australia. “The only way that we will be able to feed the projected human population of 9 to 10 billion without huge waves of deforestation is through increases in crop yield.”

But Dr. Edwards and other conservation biologists doubt that genome-driven improvements can protect forests on their own. If plantations become more profitable, agricultural companies and small farmers will have an incentive to plant more trees. “This increases pressure on converting land for plantations,” said Lisa Curran of Stanford University.

“What is also needed is the political will to ensure that forests are in fact protected,” said Dr. Phalan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/24/science/looking-at-oil-palms-genome-for-keys-to-productivity.html

Morning, I once read abt the effect of cultivating oil palm plantation in some asian countries in terms of deforestation of large forest areas. Here in Nigeria the worst deforestation is looting of our national treasury by those we called our elected leaders. The natural forest in Nigeria are long gone particularly in north central Nigeria where the govt is encouraging tree planting to check the advancing desert sands taking agriable land. Again, oil palm plantation has also checked erodig of the soil by erosion and further creating back the natural environment

We have 14.7 acres of land filled with palm trees for sale at Ado, Ota, Ogun state. lt is directly opposite a large mechanised farm - Ogun State Farm Settlement Scheme, and just 20 minutes from Lagos through the Agbara axis. lt is close to the Chinese Free Trade Zone.

Hi guys, the raining season here in north central Nigeria is about ending in the next couple of weeks and this mean 1 wil start buying water for watering the palms

thanks guys for the enlightenment on palm cultivation wishing you all success in your farms. I will like to know which other plant that can be mixed cultivated with oil palm aside plantain as earlier stated by one of the contributor. thanks once again

Palm Oil is in everything on the supermarket shelf. As the world's population grows and as the emerging economies sees industrial growth, Palm Oil is going to experience increasing importance globally. The picture below shows an array of goods that contain Palm Oil.

U can grow soya beans within the fisrt 2-3yrs which wil even help the soil with nutrients.

ab3458: thanks guys for the enlightenment on palm cultivation wishing you all success in your farms. I will like to know which other plant that can be mixed cultivated with oil palm aside plantain as earlier stated by one of the contributor. thanks once again

@Papabrowne, I ve learnt a lot fro ur posts which ar giving me a whole new ideals realizing the endless uses of palm oil in the global market. Finishing, branding and packaging are just the key words. Thanks for the insight

hi guys quite long i visit this thread, i have a lot to read from page 4. no shaking sha

A video I got on how to sprout palm seeds I got from youtube

Finding hard to upload the video

MANGAM: A video I got on how to sprout palm seeds I got from youtube

MANGAM: Finding hard to upload the video

Jst copy the link and post it here

hello guys, i promise to upload my fram pictures, here they are. 7 hectares is a large area of land. soo i was only able to get a cross section of the platation

here are more pictures

more

my nusery , to be use as replacement for dead or poorly performing ones

nusery

Nice!!!!
What state is your plantation located. And how much did you buy 7 hectares?

my location is benue state. very close to cross rivers state. and neighboring cemeroon border. the land is inherited Not bought

Thanks for the info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-otF31-p9I&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dd-otF31-p9I. The link is a video on how to sprout/germinate palm seede

felixzo1: Jst copy the link and post it here

@felixzo 1, beautiful work, u ve really come a long way and ur labor will not be in vain. Pls can u share some of the challenges u faced or currently having as a palm farmer wit us in d house?

nice thread

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osca234: i have been seeing this thread on nl business section but dint open it till yesterday. I thaught its one of those laptop farmers. The Op, and some contributor like Mangan are wonderful.

@ MANGAM please i will like call u on phone today.mine is 08064369693 u can flash me i will call. God bless u

LOL.

Hi guys I ve about 1000 kernels which I picked myself, watched the video on how to germinate palm seeds on youtube and after 70days I ve this result

very. cool