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| ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by fashoo2010(m): 1:34pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
***ASUU STRIKE*** ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Today makes it the 7th day ultimatum given by the National Association of Nigerian Students (NANS) for both FG and ASUU to resolve the current strike, that failure for both party to resolve it, will leave them with no option than to go a nationwide protest. We want to use this medium to remind NANS president Com. Yinka Gbadebo that we students are tired of sitting down at home without doing anything as regard our academic work. Also this strike will not benefit any of the final year students, because most of the final students have less than 4month to graduate from school. The strike has been harmful to all students,most especially final students and Law students that ought to go to Law school. We need a massive protest so that both party can go back to the negotiation table and resolve their differences within short period of time so that we (students) can return back to school for their various academics work. We need a massive protest that FG will fill the effect of the protest,if possible obstruct the activities of FG. We want to implore all students that everyone should be involve if NANS or any other coalition call for a Protest as regard the on going strike. Let us come out en mass,let us take our destiny into our hand,we should not sit at home,we should join peaceful protest hopefully by next week. Let all students be in one accord for this struggle... Aluta continua... OOU FOCUS ADMIN 6/9/2013 |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by timwezzb(m): 3:42pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
Season 5 Episode 2.....  |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Daniluv2k4(m): 3:47pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
tanx say una dey count am...end tym tinx |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Harrisonn(m): 5:50pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
What next?? |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by fashoo2010(m): 9:12pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
Harrisonn: What next??let see how we can also in our little organize protest. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Appliedmaths(m): 9:33pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
@ Mr OP, if we are not protesting with live tools then count me out cuz na so so empty talk una sabi talk. Let's come all out with our tools as wey dey protest we dey throway cuz me I no want make any yeye police take me shine. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Adaeze003(f): 11:50pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
Instead of a protest, why not reassemble in our schools and start learning? Can't we demand our libraries and departments be open so that we can have access to materials? After all non-teaching staff are not on strike and the schools are federal and state properties! Not the lecturer's. Our final year students can teach the 3rd yrs, 3rd years teach the 2nd yrs and so on. The final year students can also access the wifi(for schools that have) and do their project research. Truth is, the FG don't care and neither does ASUU. Protesting will lead to violence and our police men who know next to nothing on how to handle such issues will shoot and kill innocent people. And we'll stay even longer. So, why not try something different? The radio n tv stations will take note of this(if they don't we'll drag their attention) and report it on the news. This can work if we're serious enough. And will go a long way in hastening this process by touching the heart of some of our lecturers. My take... 3 Likes |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by okeke2: 11:55pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
@OP AND OTHERS may i suggest protesting in ikoyi?? dats where d rich, theives of society and crafty foreigners reside plus ikoyi is the main centre of attention in lagos. If we really really obstruct the island OMG OMG!!! jst imagine..... PLSSSS U GUYZ SHOULD DO THIS USE GOOGLE MAP TO PUT STRATEGIC POINTS, AND NO DULLING THIS IS SERIOUS UNLESS YOU DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO SKOOL AND U WANT TO ROT AT HOME. THIS IS WAR!!! I'LL PUT THE POINTS I THINK WE SHOULD PROTEST TOMORROW THIS IS WAR!!!! PROTOCOL 10 MUST ME IMPLEMENTED!!!!! |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by mistaebube(m): 12:26am On Sep 07, 2013 |
[quote author=Adaeze003]Instead of a protest, why not reassemble in our schools and start learning? Can't we demand our libraries and departments be open so that we can have access to materials? After all non-teaching staff are not on strike and the schools are federal and state properties! Not the lecturer's. Our final year students can teach the 3rd yrs, 3rd years teach the 2nd yrs and so on. The final year students can also access the wifi(for schools that have) and do their project research. Truth is, the FG don't care and neither does ASUU. Protesting will lead to violence and our police men who know next to nothing on how to handle such issues will shoot and kill innocent people. And we'll stay even longer. So, why not try something different? The radio n tv stations will take note of this(if they don't we'll drag their attention) and report it on the news. This can work if we're serious enough. And will go a long way in hastening this process by touching the heart of some of our lecturers. My take... [/quote) (sis, make i continue the advise from where you stop)......... afta we(student) ve finished teaching ourselves, we organize d exams, mark d scripts, hold our 'personalized student senate' meeting to finalize d semester exams record.....,we cud even mobilize tons of nysc batches for service....., thereafta, we cud proces admission list for new in take........so doing, help in finally collapsing the educational sector..... haahhahahahahahahahabububuahaha......... |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by fashoo2010(m): 7:02am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Appliedmaths.:Hmmm....dats serious oooo.. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by fashoo2010(m): 7:06am On Sep 07, 2013 |
[quote author=mistaebube][/quote]....funny you |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by SaintChukz(m): 10:30am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Adaeze003: Instead of a protest, why not reassemble in our schools and start learning? Can't we demand our libraries and departments be open so that we can have access to materials? After all non-teaching staff are not on strike and the schools are federal and state properties! Not the lecturer's.Good and Ingenious thinking...if only this could work, but sorry this idea won't work in 9ja, because it will only amount to dismantling completely the structure of our Universities. ASUU as an organ/body will see it as a calculated effort to jeopardize their own struggle and agitations, so on the assumption that a few good hearted lecturers might be touched to return to the classroom, i don't see that as a chance. Perhaps for how long will it be on for? A week? A month? - its a real complex situation out there as ASUU is more determined than ever before to strike home their demands this time around. I see a revolution looming.....maybe its time for our own Arab spring. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by SaintChukz(m): 10:38am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Appliedmaths.:^ This one is obviously a confra Man...Anyway let me not mention it....."E/*/T" |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by proffemi: 10:41am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Adaeze003: Instead of a protest, why not reassemble in our schools and start learning? Can't we demand our libraries and departments be open so that we can have access to materials? After all non-teaching staff are not on strike and the schools are federal and state properties! Not the lecturer's. One suspects that most students will scoff at your suggestion. Indeed, implementing it would be challenging, to say the least. Nevertheless, IMHO, your post is the smartest I have seen from a student over the last few weeks for one simple reason: it proposes a problem-solving approach to the issue: it's *original*, *creative*, *positive*, and *can-do*. I likey. Of course, the devil is in the details, and I assure you that this one has many kinks to be worked out. But: if it can be pulled off, this can cause quite the positive upheaval, and empower Nigerian students like nothing I can think of. Sure, I am an academic, and by definition, representative of the people you stand against. Sure, you've got one of two misconceptions (ASUU cares; don't believe all that crap that we're all selfish old men). However, students who actually grapple with problems in a positive, creative way are so rare in this country that when I meet one, I'm always happy to encourage them. Your proposal will not lead to the strike being broken, but if you students can pull it off, it could be the start of something tremendous... Keep being a problem-solver (and not a whiner like most of your colleagues ) |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by proffemi: 10:59am On Sep 07, 2013 |
mistaebube: sis, make i continue the advise from where you stop)......... afta we(student) ve finished teaching ourselves, we organize d exams, mark d scripts, hold our 'personalized student senate' meeting to finalize d semester exams record.....,we cud even mobilize tons of nysc batches for service....., thereafta, we cud proces admission list for new in take........so doing, help in finally collapsing the educational sector..... haahhahahahahahahahabububuahaha......... If AdaEze's post is an example of an attempt at problem solving, yours is the quintessential Nigerian response: laugh at an intelligent and original idea because it has obvious flaws. My brother, if your saw some of the world-changing technologies you use today in their original form, you will be disappointed. The best ideas always start off with kinks which, given the ingenuity that led to the idea in the first place, are usually solvable. Solving a problem the intelligent way is hard, no doubt, but doing so almost always yields pay-back beyond the scope of the original problem. The easy way is to just take what others did to solve theirs and adapt, hence so many Nigerian students cast envious looks at the Middle East and wish a Nigerian Spring would wash away all our problems (and hence the renewed emphasis on protests). If all Nigerian students (and lecturers!) thought like AdaEze, we wouldn't even be having this strike action. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by okeke2: 11:06am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Adaeze003: Instead of a protest, why not reassemble in our schools and start learning? Can't we demand our libraries and departments be open so that we can have access to materials? After all non-teaching staff are not on strike and the schools are federal and state properties! Not the lecturer's. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by okeke2: 11:07am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Adaeze003: Instead of a protest, why not reassemble in our schools and start learning? Can't we demand our libraries and departments be open so that we can have access to materials? After all non-teaching staff are not on strike and the schools are federal and state properties! Not the lecturer's.wt abt 1st year students awaitin registration and admission |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Nobody: 11:22am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Una just dey make LOL.. As if thr is anytin u guys can do..  anyhw sha END-TIME-TINS  |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by SaintChukz(m): 11:24am On Sep 07, 2013 |
prof.femi:@ Prof. Although i quite acknowledged her ideas were ingenious...but by what you have stated here, are you trying to mention the obvious - That her own ideas are not in anyway a form of protest? Or are the Arabs the originators of protests? Don't protests occur all around the world? The only difference i noted is that her's were a deviation from the norm. And when i say i see a revolution looming, it doesn't mean it must follow the same violent path that we have become acclimatized to. Anyway what's all this sermon for in the first place, when we know the likely outcome of such a move. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Adaeze003(f): 11:32am On Sep 07, 2013 |
(sis, make i continue the advise from where you stop)......... afta we(student) ve finished teaching ourselves, we organize d exams, mark d scripts, hold our 'personalized student senate' meeting to finalize d semester exams record.....,we cud even mobilize tons of nysc batches for service....., thereafta, we cud proces admission list for new in take........so doing, help in finally collapsing the educational sector..... haahhahahahahahahahabububuahaha......... The point is not to take over the school but I tell you,it'll be better than a protest. 'Peaceful protest' is an oxymoron for students as among students are cultists who enjoy violence and we all know that it'll lead to loss of lives. That said, my proposed movement will help us to cover grounds and most importantly spark up something either from ASUU or the FG. Like I said, if we get(and we will) the attention of the media, it'll be on the news and we'll use it as a medium to apeal(not fight) to them and let them know there's a third party. My idea might be imperfect but it is by far better than a protest. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by proffemi: 11:39am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Saint Chukz: @ Prof. Although i quite acknowledged her ideas were ingenious...but by what you have stated here, are you trying to mention the obvious - That her own ideas are not in anyway a form of protest? Or are the Arabs the originators of protests? Don't protests occur all around the world? The only difference i noted is that her's were a deviation from the norm. And when i say i see a revolution looming, it doesn't mean it must follow the same violent path that we have become acclimatized to. Anyway what's all this sermon for in the first place, when we know the likely outcome of such a move. Please do not twist my words. I did not "try to mention the obvious, That her own ideas are not in anyway a form of protest". I think I see why you may be a little miffed: one of your previous posts mentions the Arab Spring. Believe me, I didn't even see the end of that post, so my mention of Nigerian youths trying to copy the Arab Spring was *not* a dig at you, direct or indirect. Of course her suggestion is a sort of protest, and I never gave any indication that I thought otherwise. I also did not make any statements that could be construed as a thesis on the origins or types of protests. Obviously, my mission was to praise originality over recycling/modifying others' ideas, and for that, the Arab Spring was apropos for more than one reason. Thanks. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by SaintChukz(m): 11:51am On Sep 07, 2013 |
prof.femi:Ok...i get it clearer now from your own perspective. its good to see we are relatively on the same page. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by proffemi: 11:59am On Sep 07, 2013 |
Saint Chukz: Anyway what's all this sermon for in the first place, when we know the likely outcome of such a move.Given your last post, I am sorry to have to disagree with your view above. You are right, we know the likely outcome of such a move. Indeed, I suspect the universities will not even allow so many students in, in the first place. AdaEze may not know it, but resolving this strike the way ASUU wants is in the interest of the university administrations themselves. Having said that, Nigerians are usually guilty of killing off bright ideas because they think they know how it will all pan out. The truth is, many a bright idea morphs into something entirely different (but equally potent). So, to answer your question: just sitting here, I can think of at least 3 ways in which her idea can fork, and lead to a situation where the world's media will beam their lights on the Nigerian educational system (and students) - in a positive way. What she advocated is the sort of thing we expect to read about from the US or from some oyinbo country but, naay, it can never happen here. One reason why her post resonated so strongly with me was that just yesterday, I was telling someone that if you moved the students and academics from the top US schools to work in Nigeria (in the very same infrastructure-deprived environment), they will turn the thing around in a short time. They will first attack the problems that prevent effective teaching/learning, and go from there. I am not an advocate of eugenics; I do not mean to suggest any genetic superiority at play. The simple thing is, they are taught to attack and solve problems, while we always believe we know the likely outcome of any original idea. 1 Like |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by drered(m): 12:13pm On Sep 07, 2013 |
In a country where the first option to resolution is never peaceful dialogue the only option left in the hands of a nigerian student is to take is destiny into his own hands and do all he can to be heard. Sitting at home waiting on a government that has repeatedly failed their people and mortgaging our futures to lecturers that are supposed to be intellectuals won't do any of us good. Civil disturbance, demonstration and un-rest as rash as it may sound is what applies in Nigeria. NANS has a body has failed for letting this strike linger on to over 60 days without any visible effort to end this strike.. The only way I see this being resolved soonest is students demonstrating en masse to #endasuustrike. I'm talking mobilization of crowds similar to that of #occupynigeria in strategic locations that will affect the government and make both citizen/non-citizens of Nigeria feel the pain we feeling right now. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by oaroloye(m): 2:18pm On Sep 07, 2013 |
I find it comical that students should complain of "sitting down at home, doing nothing," implying that, when they are in school, they "do something." . . There is an international conspiracy to devalue education in order to destroy independent and intelligent thought, thus creating a vast ignorant slave labour-pool underclass, ruled over by a pompous elite, who will spoon-feed them ideas and opinions, as they feel they want them to have them, and tell them what to do, for all of their lives, from cradle to grave. . . As Evidence of our Academic Leaders and Executors' High Treason, please search for and download the following references, for starters: . . 1. THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION (1897). . . You will want to read Article 16, where the authors, said to be the Jewish Illuminati Heads of European and American Freemasonry, declared how they viewed University Education as an obstacle to their proposed Totalitarian Rule, whereby they would seize control of the Professors, and remove all things from the Curriculum that they viewed as "disturbing." . . Such as the true histories of nations- which they said contained more examples that were bad (for them) than good for them, creating bad subjects they could not control. . . The most stupid thing one can do with this document is to discuss it without having read it. Once you have read it, you will understand what has happened in Africa since the so-called "Abolition of Slavery" to the present time. . . This is the one document that will make Illuminati Agents break cover to utter some stupid rubbish to stop you from reading it. . . Once you have read THIS document, your escape from their prison is a mere formality. All their invisible agents, assets, and schemes become as visible and conspicuous as Bruce Banner transforming into The Incredible Hulk! . . 2. THE DELIBERATE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA, by Charlotte Iserbyt (1999): This amazing old lady served as the Head of Educational Development under President Ronald Reagan, and "blew the whistle" when she uncovered documentary evidence that there was a plot, implemented in America by The ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION, and Internationally, by The CARNEGIE INSTITUTE, to reduce educational standards to match those of the Soviet Union. . . When she wrote the President about her findings, she was promptly fired. . . These findings can be summed-up in a terrible quote she cites from- . . 3. THE IMPACT OF SCIENCE ON SOCIETY, by Bertrand Russell (1953): everything we need to know about what sort of man he was can be summed up in the quote from his book, where he says that national leaders should fund research to determine how much per capita head it would cost them, to convince young children that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to convince them that it is dark grey (sic). . . The ideas of total nutjobs like this are what are being used on our pupils here. You yourself can see how education has been affected. . . My field is Microbiology, and I am unfairly prevailed upon, in my place of work, to pick up the slack of our academic staff, and teach them what they ought to have been taught since Primary School, about laboratory procedure. . . I find, that not only have they "studied Microbiology" for three years, [I]without being allowed to handle a microscope[/i] -which is like being taught to swim for three years, without ever entering water- but (hey even DEFEND this FRAUDULENT SYSTEM! . . "It's not the School's fault," one of them recently told me, "there are 200 of us, and ONLY TWO microscopes (sic)!!!" . . That is not Education- that is FRAUD. . . In England or America, a student does EVERY EXPERIEMENT you see in your textbook, this side of building a Nuclear Reactor, or rocketing into Outer Space. . . When you cannot see what the Teacher is talking about, you cannot know what they are talking about, and the Teacher too cannot know whether you have understood what they were telling you. . . Nigeria is such a rotten stupid country, that teachers [I] do not care[/i] that their students do not understand what they are teaching them. All they care about is their perceived position in society. . . I nearly said: "all they care about is their wages." . . That cannot be true. . . If it were, they would work to build the best infrastructure possible, by turning out the best students possible, who would render the Economy so robust, the government would have no problem paying them the best wagfes in the World- just to find something to do with the money. . . Obviously, they see no connection between the students they graduate, and the salaries they are paid. Former President Yar'Adua obviously saw to connection between his doing nothing to build the best Heart Clinic in the World, and his own life expectancy. This is a clear case. . . One of those on strike for more pay is the Head of Electronics. In his Department is a machine that cuts micochips. He has said that no one in the whole country was qualified to use it, since the Whites left. . . If this Professor designed such a device- not BUILD, I said, DESIGNED- HE COULD not only RETIRE on the income, he could FUND HIS ENTIRE FACULTY from the ROYALTIES. If HE built it, he could fund something between the whole University, and the STATE. . . He must not know this. Nor is it my place to tell him. . . 4. THE CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN, by John Perkins: I was astonished when he was interviewed on BBC in November, 2011. But what was even more amazing was that NOBODY NOTICED. . . This is the most important Revelation EVER! . . John Perkins worked for the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and his job was to persuade Third World Heads of State to take FAKE LOANS, at such a high rate of interest, that they could never be paid off. . . Once the debt had mounted, the Heads of State would told that to pay off this loan- most of which had gone into his and his cronies' own pockets, he would have to give concessions of their Natural Resources. . . If they refused to take the loan, another agent, called a JACKAL- also working under "PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY" -would step in, and either engineer their overthrow- as the CIA did to Mohammed Mossadegh of Iran in 1953- or else assassinate them outright. . . Everybody else I have discussed this with has said to the effect that IT IS NOT IMPORTANT. . . 5. ALBERTO, by Jack T. Chick: a member of a political Organization, masquerading as a an International Denomination of Christianity defected when he found out that Freemasons- whom he had been taught to fight against since childhood- were in fact senior members of his church. . . He therefore publicly denounced his church, and revealed his part in their programme to infiltrate and sabotage other churches from within, using completely sinful methods, including lying, blackmail, and prostitution. . . He and his kind are brainwashed into believing that their sins, to further the goals of their church, are justified. . . This testimony takes on added significance, when it can be demonstrated that the academic saboteurs who are holding back the development of the country, are either members of this church, or else churches controlled by that fake church. . . "The best way to control our opposition, is to lead it ourselves!" . . . .-Vladimir Lenin. . . What our students complain about is not what they [I]should[/i] be complaining about! |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Adaeze003(f): 2:36pm On Sep 07, 2013 |
prof.femi: I'm beaming with joy from your kind words. Thank you! I thought people would reason with me instead of mock my idea or atleast show me the pot holes and suggest a way to cover them. I guess I'll just discuss it with my friends and hear what they have to say. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Kelechi2020(m): 6:07pm On Sep 07, 2013 |
@op you are right on point.but i think you need to tidy your write up so it can make front page. For example someone like me would like to protest and even die for this cause but pertaining to the fact that we students are at home i cant just come out from my house and start protesting(am in aba).i need a place like a meeting point where we students that stay in aba can meet first and discuss our rules of engagement. I wish i had the previledge to create the topic but it is nt something one can do alone,cos dis is a nationwide action that will require people from every state to participate. My suggestion is that you list the 36 states in Nigeria in ur topic and let people in those repective states indicate.when someone indicates what we do is that a subtopic for that state is created and its hyperlink pasted and highlighted in the topic where there state falls.so that someone like me in aba can hook up with my peeps. Most importantly SuG officals or Nans officials if any can join. I am contacting my sug president and my director of transport(mouau)to refer them here. @op After the editing(am here to help)@MOD consider this as a sticky front page material just as nigeria vs malawi match today. |
| Re: ASUU Strike: Enough Is Enough by Appliedmaths(m): 7:27pm On Sep 07, 2013 |
Saint Chukz: ^ This one is obviously a confra Man...Anyway let me not mention it....."E/*/T" Oga na u sabi where you see confra man ooo!, if you like go out there and protest without safe guarding yourself and see what the police would use your eyes to see that's if you would be alive to tell the story. Ask the Delsu guys what they saw in the hands of the NPF tragic! |
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