well if the west are that civilised as people like KOLOJUNKIES preaches here like a  fake prophet, i guess being double standard is undemocratic and uncivilied,agree, just like these appologist got their point across on world BANK did not compell these political monkies to undertake a deal, yes u right,

1;but how come a lot of western companies are exploiting the south-east asian for cheap labour whereby kids as 2 years old are used in cloth or nike weaving and stuff

2; We all know this is 21century right, how come whenever africa is showed to the outside world, its always jungle the outside world get to see on TV,  why!! people like KOLOJUNKIES will keep talkin bullcrap here, soon they lable u agressive, hhhahhhh why, i wana know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ha, does it that mean when they came out from the murutala m airport the BBC camera doesnt like what it sees till they hit ijebu village ha! now tell KOLOJUNKIES,

3; just take a look at Zimbabewe, where is Harare! Does it mean the BBC camera exposure cannot see harare, all its sees is zimbabewe runnin the bush, none runnin in the city!!!

OYA !!

4; if war wasnt about oil, is Iraiq the only illegal rigime in earth or poses threat to US

superman:

well if the west are that civilised as people like KOLOJUNKIES preaches here like a fake prophet, i guess being double standard is undemocratic and uncivilied,agree, just like these appologist got their point across on world BANK did not compell these political monkies to undertake a deal, yes u right,

1;but how come a lot of western companies are exploiting the south-east asian for cheap labour whereby kids as 2 years old are used in cloth or nike weaving and stuff

2; We all know this is 21century right, how come whenever africa is showed to the outside world, its always jungle the outside world get to see on TV, why!! people like KOLOJUNKIES will keep talkin bullcrap here, soon they lable u agressive, hhhahhhh why, i wana know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ha, does it that mean when they came out from the murutala m airport the BBC camera doesnt like what it sees till they hit ijebu village ha! now tell KOLOJUNKIES,

3; just take a look at Zimbabewe, where is Harare! Does it mean the BBC camera exposure cannot see harare, all its sees is zimbabewe runnin the bush, none runnin in the city!!!

OYA !!

when u sight and recognize hypocrites, who can eat the white man shit all because they lack basic understanding, it is best to ignore them
u have spoken.

abeg make una leave kobojunkie jare. i no blame am hoha

oyibo man de feed am for US so he owe them that service of defending their defenceless actions

well as i now see . . . common sense is no longer common as kolojunkyard has lost his common sense in diaspora

e go better one day for am. hoha

superman:

1;but how come a lot of western companies are exploiting the south-east asian for cheap labour whereby kids as 2 years old are used in cloth or nike weaving and stuff

Although the west has a degree of moral responsibility, is it the west that sets or are responsible for south east Asia's local labour laws?
Why are you not blaming the government of that country for not protecting these children?

superman:

2; We all know this is 21century right, how come whenever africa is showed to the outside world, its always jungle the outside world get to see on TV, why!! people like KOLOJUNKIES will keep talkin bullcrap here, soon they lable u agressive, hhhahhhh why, i wana know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ha, does it that mean when they came out from the murutala m airport the BBC camera doesnt like what it sees till they hit ijebu village ha! now tell KOLOJUNKIES,

3; just take a look at Zimbabewe, where is Harare! Does it mean the BBC camera exposure cannot see harare, all its sees is zimbabewe runnin the bush, none runnin in the city!!!

OYA !!

You have a point here. It is just bad journalism as they are pandering to the majority of their audience who are more interested in sensationalised news.

The more unlike them the news potrays others, the more the public would consume the news. So if the can find Africans that eat only once in 4 days, Perfect Story.

sagamite

  Although the west has a degree of moral responsibility, is it the west that sets or are responsible for south east Asia's local labour laws?
Why are you not blaming the government of that country for not protecting these children?

u see poeple like you will always sound like KOLO_MENTAL! the west talk so much about green house but do otherwise when they are in africa just because there are a lot of political monkies in abuja. i thought global warning is worldwide thing. you talk about child molesters, just because we got fool in power in africa doent warrant you fiddling some little boy.

so where do we go from here. when the world bank was undertaking a deal with abacha they knew what they were doing!! dnt they?they knew the money is comin back to europe. they knew abacha is a dictator, they knew its undemocratic, they still went on and seal the deal.

so hmm appologist talk me

I read your post yesterday afternoon and decided, like every other post of yours on here, to ignore completely as I have come to accept you as you are(Someone who goes with the "US vs THEM" reasoning and so can never be reasoned with). But just a couple of minutes ago, I responded to a post by some other person with similar case of emotional issues and decided it would  not be fair of me to reply that one and not you. So here goes. I don't know you from heaven or hell and chances  are I will die without ever knowing you and so I will continue to deal with you as I have in the past if after responding to your post here, you feel to continue feeling that insulting my person is the only way for you to gain some ego-boost or esteem for self.

superman:

well if the west are that civilised as people like KOLOJUNKIES preaches here like a  fake prophet, i guess being double standard is undemocratic and uncivilied,agree, just like these appologist got their point across on world BANK did not compell these political monkies to undertake a deal, yes u right,

1;but how come a lot of western companies are exploiting the south-east asian for cheap labour whereby kids as 2 years old are used in cloth or nike weaving and stuff

Ever since I have been on Nairaland, I have never met a single person on here who has claimed the west to be devoid of problems of it's own or mistakes. On the contrary, I continue to meet some in here who are objective enough to not expect the west to be the PERFECT country while it be ok for other countries, like china, india, Nigeria and the rest to criminally towards it's own people and the rest of the world.

As I have pointed out over and over again, I am not pro-west, just anti-stupidity. How so, you may ask?? Take for instance the debate on WorldBank, it is the responsibility of the worldbank to look past it's own responsibilities and loan criteria to decide to deny countries like Nigeria loans.  Anyone who has ever been to a bank in any locale will know and understand that a bank is a business and businesses know there are lines that should not be crossed.  Businesses that go past that line and decide to take it upon themselves to deny customers loans based on private issues know they are in error and we have seen many cases of governments suing companies for such misconduct. Why would anyone in their sane mind decide that the Worldbank should, because Nigerians choose to have a dictator govern them, choose to have corruption in their system, move to deny Nigeria loans, even when Nigeria meets the worldbanks set criteria for loan qualification?? The WorldBank is not government and is not to decide what government a people can have or not choose to have, so why demand the worldbank start acting as government over our own government?? What next?? Will the same also demand that the UN deny Nigeria AIDS cause of the situation in the country?? Does all this even make sense to someone who actually thinks these things through and understands how the world works?? That is my question.

superman:


2; We all know this is 21century right, how come whenever africa is showed to the outside world, its always jungle the outside world get to see on TV,  why!! people like KOLOJUNKIES will keep talkin bullcrap here, soon they lable u agressive, hhhahhhh why, i wana know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ha, does it that mean when they came out from the murutala m airport the BBC camera doesnt like what it sees till they hit ijebu village ha! now tell KOLOJUNKIES,

I told a friend of mine who happens to be a Nigerian living in the UK of this claim of yours and you know what he said?? He said you have issues if you have not seen the glory of Harare and the wonderful parts of africa on TV. You wait to get your news from these channels. I have actually seen the same murtala airport on both CNN and BBC. Maybe you should open your eyes a bit more to see these things cause I have actually seen the airport on BBC. I have seen Harare on BBC in all it's glory. I have seen Harare on CNN, on Travel Channel, on PBS, on National Geograpghc, on Food Network and so many other channels out there. I watch a lot of TV so forgive If I have absolutely no clue how you continue to arrive at this conclusion when I see these things on TV myself.

Maybe the problem could be that you continue to EXPECT CNN, BBC to be your Travel channels, instead of the 30 seconds they have for each news, you EXPECT them to spend more time showing you what you want to see instead of actually reporting the news which they are in business to do, then I suggest you maybe learn what news channels ought to be doing for you instead of what YOU WANT TO IMPOSE on them. There is a show on CNN each saturday hosted by an african girl and that show highlights so much of what is going on in africa, both the good and bad. If you have never seen it, may I suggest that you sit and watch it and maybe email her to get an idea of how things are run on there.

superman:


3; just take a look at Zimbabewe, where is Harare! Does it mean the BBC camera exposure cannot see harare, all its sees is zimbabewe runnin the bush, none runnin in the city!!!

OYA !!

here are some links for you

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7440527.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4620000/newsid_4628200/4628243.stm?bw=nb&mp=wm&news=1&nol_storyid=4628243&bbcws=1


If the news is about what Tsvangiri is saying, is it that you instead expect the BBC to show unrelated videos to please you??

If the video is on the riots in the area, is it that you want the BBC to focus on the highrise buildings in Harari and not the rioters and the road blocks the news story is about?? Is this really about the BBC or what you want?

Lol,  there is a video on there with Tsanvgiri sitting in a village, would you rather BBC put a fake picture in the background so as to please you instead?? is this about what you prefer or what the company wants to report and how??

Like I said,  I have seen Harare on TV; I have seen it's many spas and farms from back when things were good. I believe some of them were revisited and were not as well kept as they used to be and many are no longer open due to situations down there. But again, I ask that you open your mind a bit more and maybe you will see what I see. If not, then I suggest you consider this,


Here are questions for you


If I watch the same channels as you claim to do yet I do not see what you claim to see,  is the problem the channels in this case?? Or difference in perception??

have you yourself ever set foot into Zimbabwe or Harare yourself

have you actually visited the BBC's video file log to see how these "gruesome" videos which you claim to compare them with the news headings they are accompanied with??

I just watched a documentary on 'skidrow' a couple of minutes ago and you know what I saw?? For a whole how, the show focused on the slums, the drug dealers, the drug users, prostitutes, homeless children and families. Do you not think I would be considered an insane idiot to assume that all of america is that way?? Do you not think I would be an slowpoke if I assumed that for that one hour, I watched continuous video of the bad, all that channel does is focus on the bad and never actually shows the good in america??

How can you watch videos that last an average of 1.57 minutes on BBC, every other day and conclude that all that the BBC or any other channel focuses on is the bad in africa or even america, or any place on this planet

If the news is about the poor and the hungry, in say Niger, would you rather the world not see the pictures of these people to understand how bad the situation is for these people, because your ego would rather the lovely highrise buildings be the focus instead?
Don't you think this shows how much value you place on the lives of the people  if this be the case?? Do you really think this is about you helping the people or pushing the image you want of your "beloved" africa, even if these people get ignored and their lives go to waste for that??

Over here in the west, people send billions of dollars to help millions of people who go to bed hungry in Africa. About 5 million children die each year of malnutrition in developing countries, would you rather the media not cover those stories but start to focus more on the good pictures you have of murtala mohammed airport?? Is this really about you loving your people or you just not being able to deal with the BBC and anything western not doing things as you would rather it be done by you??

superman:

4; if war wasnt about oil, is Iraiq the only illegal rigime in earth or poses threat to US

Well,  here is the problem with this question. If you actually listened to the speech Bush gave back before the war, he did not say anything about the war being for removal of illegal regimes across the earth, I believe he tied Iraq to what happene on 9/11 and that was the reason why congress gave the go ahead for the war. So, may I suggest that you at least follow facts and not just throw crap about. 

If you want to believe the war is about Oil, then that is up to you. If another persons chooses to believe it is not about the Oil, why have a problem with the person believing that ?? Worse, why feel the need to ATTACK such a person for having a different world view than that which you choose to subscribe to??  Is this some sort of ego-trip for you??

Anywho, I do know that China has gained so much from this war as well, so has India. Should we then conclude that China was in on the war as well? I mean China and India happen to be some of the first to get oil deals from this war. China has gotten serious material deals in Afghanistan as well. Is China part of the "war conspiracy"?? Was India in on the war deal then, if you conclude it was about the Oil OR are we going to say that because US and British companies ALSO gained oil from, therefore it means it was all about the Oil and nothing else We forget that other countries gained as well?? You decide.



For the person who do not know the meaning of the word and it's use,


[size=13pt]hy·poc·ri·sy
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

As far as I am concerned, I can not say I do not practise or live what I preach on here so I do know that you continue to MISUSE the word. At least use it in the right context and be careful that it does not backfire.[/size]

woo thanks for your reply bro kolomental.

thanks gona read them up now but as always expect" counter-reply"

superman:

woo thanks for your reply bro kolomental.

thanks gona read them up now but as always expect" counter-reply"

*sigh*
Superman, please work on your spelling.

@Darfur
if only you spent less time on anti-western rhetoric and more on the problems in Africa you'd be a better man for it. You started well. You once spent time drawing attention to the issues in Darfur. What happened to you?

We spend so little time on solutions to our problems, yet we froth at the mouth when outsiders attempt to intervene. I don't give a damn whether BBC or CNN shows villages in zimbabwe. What images are shown on AIT or NTA?

Did you hear from AIT or NTA that a loaf of bread in Zimbabwe is not 40 million zimbabwean dollars? When last did NTA tell you about the astronomical inflation rate?

To the hypocrite that knows the meaning of hypocrisy


while the aforementioned dennotatively defines hypocrisy, ur double standard and lack of convictions and your often ambivalence
when it comes sensitive issues connotes hypocrisy. _{this is an informed opinion subject lo long time observation}

since u r supposed to b nihilant, i would have posted links to threads to butress my claim.

ur ambivalence and often uninformed opinions connote HYPOCRISY

noetic:

To the hypocrite that knows the meaning of hypocrisy


while the aforementioned dennotatively defines hypocrisy, your double standard and lack of convictions and your often ambivalence
when it comes sensitive issues connotes hypocrisy. _{this is an informed opinion subject lo long time observation}

since you're supposed to b nihilant, i would have posted links to threads to butress my claim.

your ambivalence and often uninformed opinions connote HYPOCRISY

[size=13pt]hy·poc·ri·sy
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

As far as I am concerned, I can not say I do not practise or live what I preach on here so I do know that you continue to MISUSE the word. At least use it in the right context and be careful that it does not backfire.[/size]

make una no fight war o

It is time to ignore all the uncle toms on this forum,servile and cringing murderfackers,always dwelling on the same ignorance,the root matter they can never envisage.

There is a saying in my place that goes-An inferior person,with all the exposure and wealth in the world,still remains inferior.Standing up for yourself and utmost truth in most cases is inborn or a divine inspiration.Some people just derive joy in ass licking,the ass of sub-humans.

What is this thread all about?

Una still get time to respond to the likes of kobojunkie? She is clueless and is fund of making very bogus claims and remains a die hard supporter of anything US and of course a hypocrite of the highest order.

Guys Kobojunkie has asked some questions, why not just repond in line with resourceful debate or something of the sort?

And who says that questions asked by a hypocrite should be answered?

Answer these questions and she will come up with others, there is usually no end in sight when dealing with such clowns unless of course you think like her.

Anywho, I do know that China has gained so much from this war as well, so has India. Should we then conclude that China was in on the war as well? I mean China and India happen to be some of the first to get oil deals from this war.

you still dont see the Big Picture!!!

who are the Big Manufacturer in China?? US companies

who are the major consumers of China goods?? US people

The energy to drive china is the same that produce those goods.

Even Germany that pretends not be on-board provided the 'MAP for Sadam Bunkers' and their company making money in US.

It is all woven together. It is all same reason they asked OBJ pay $18billion and they will forget the rest of our debt.

I wish we could think like the WEST: Maximise benefit anywhere, everywehere.

superman:

sagamite

u see poeple like you will always sound like KOLO_MENTAL! the west talk so much about green house but do otherwise when they are in africa just because there are a lot of political monkies in abuja. i thought global warning is worldwide thing. you talk about child molesters, just because we got fool in power in africa doent warrant you fiddling some little boy.

so where do we go from here. when the world bank was undertaking a deal with abacha they knew what they were doing!! dnt they?they knew the money is comin back to europe. they knew abacha is a dictator, they knew its undemocratic, they still went on and seal the deal.

so hmm appologist talk me

So are you saying you want them to come and take over your country as you can not produce leaders that represent the interest of your people?

Finally,the godddddddddddds did spoke
nods.

texazzpete

*sigh*
Superman, please work on your spelling.

haha !!! one of them? jumbo-mobo writer na wa o!! _{spit on the floor}

please comment here these appologist poses threat to Nigeria sustainance!!

@texas

anyone who follows my posts will know i don't usually take sides. i hate double standards. i cannot exonerate our leadership in africa. . .and indeed our followership too, from the deplorable state of our motherland. but what i can't take is when somepeople defend western attrocities with such vigour as if the west is "innocent". kobojunkie defends the west like hell. may be not only him, but he is the one i noticed( i'm not usually online for more than 15 mins). his first attack on me was attrocious to say the least(may be why i always notice him) he went for the jugulars without even knowing me. his line. . . . .why have you not spoken out against african evils(not quoting him word for words but that was his attacking message) even my username did not tell him something about me.

i have crossed paths with friends and foes for my opinions. sometimes even painfully. . .especially when i told my igbo brothers that ojukwu was a big disaster in opting for war. i speak out against africans, why wont i speak out against the west, where i'm living now and feeling the pains? why should i defend them. even at that i have defended some western statements like the guy who said nigerians were untruthful. i defended him to the chagrin of my nairlanders. i have even once agreed _{albeit painfully} with kobo

but i'm not a sworn defender of western diplomacy. . . i am darfur

darfur:

but i'm not a sworn defender of western diplomacy. . . i am darfur

notin do u

darfur:

@texas

anyone who follows my posts will know i don't usually take sides. i hate double standards. i cannot exonerate our leadership in africa. . .and indeed our followership too, from the deplorable state of our motherland. but what i can't take is when somepeople defend western attrocities with such vigour as if the west is "innocent". kobojunkie defends the west like hell. may be not only him, but he is the one i noticed( i'm not usually online for more than 15 mins). his first attack on me was attrocious to say the least(may be why i always notice him) he went for the jugulars without even knowing me. his line. . . . .why have you not spoken out against african evils(not quoting him word for words but that was his attacking message) even my username did not tell him something about me.

i have crossed paths with friends and foes for my opinions. sometimes even painfully. . .especially when i told my igbo brothers that ojukwu was a big disaster in opting for war. i speak out against africans, why wont i speak out against the west, where i'm living now and feeling the pains? why should i defend them. even at that i have defended some western statements like the guy who said nigerians were untruthful. i defended him to the chagrin of my nairlanders. i have even once agreed _{albeit painfully} with kobo

but i'm not a sworn defender of western diplomacy. . . i am darfur

@Darfur, Do you mind show proof for the highlighted statements First you say, we debate AS IF the west is innocent ( Statement that shows that it is not that we say the west is innocent ), then you follow it with Kobojunkie defends the west like Hell.

1) Can you show proof that I do "DEFEND" the west,  please understand to use that word as it ought to be here. 

Your claiming not to be a sworn defender of western diplomacy means you already attach most all those on the other side to something and in this case, to the west and everyone who takes a side different from yours automatically is western to you. If you understand what that means, you would realize that this not necessarily about the other side but about you, yourself and the way you think as a human being.  Point being I have never known anyone who is a sworn defender of western diplomacy and may I ask what "WESTERN DIPLOMACY" means?? Is it evil to demand that the will of our people be respected?? Since when did that become just a "western" thing when it used to be the way our ancestors ruled, back in the days??


2) Could you please, in all honesty give me examples of situations where I have, in my right mind, thrown any other country under the bus so I can continue to defend WESTERN DIPLOMACY and explain to me how I be wrong in that case. I really would like persons to continue to spout things such as these to have some substantial information to back such claims up, so I can at least consider maybe some intelligence is involved, at some level in the case.

3) Why do I need to speak out against the west if, I have no need to do so?? @Darfur. Is this simply that you NEED me to speak out against the west, even when it does not make sense to do so?? What exactly is the reasoning here?? What do I speak out against and why? Should I just SPEAK OUT against the west whenever a thread is created on Nigeria?? Should I SPEAKOUT against Nigeria whenever a thread is made on how hunger continues to ravage most of Africa?? Should I speak out against the WEST whenever my CABLE is down? What exactly should be my reason for speaking out against the West here?? @Darfur

mr kobo

the post you are responding to was directed at texazzpete.

keep off.

but you did make some comments about me. Is it possible to get answers to the questions at least.

Kobojunkie:

but you did make some comments about me.

so?

Oh my goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This guy kobojunkie is just a fool. Look how you disgrace yourself. Everything you said in this post and the other thread;
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-143728.0.html are complete bullshit.

This is what you get when ignorance meets hatred.

Please go back to school or commit yourself to a mental institution. It is people like this fool who proudly call himself a junkie, that give Nigeria a bad name.

darfur:

so?

ok then.

all right let me not seem too rude . . . here's for one of the highlighted statements. it shows darfur criticising nigerian leadership as far back as the summer of 2007. it took me 5mins looking for it. 5 mins of my time conscious life. just to please kobo

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=69085.msg1384715#msg1384715

enjoy

How does this answer any of my questions I don't get it ??