It has been the culture of christians to quickly attack pagans/spiritual person as 'worshipper of Idol or god.' Also the christians are quick with putting a case (G) when spelling their god but are quick using the lower case for pagan deities. Is this kinda ignorance or brainwashing against reality? This is a call to show you christians from the bible you trusted that you worship Idol, specifically the god of the hills.

1 Kings 20:23
King James Bible "Authorized Version"

And the servants of the king of Syria said unto him, Their gods are gods of the hills; therefore they were stronger than we; but let us fight against them in the plain, and surely we shall be stronger than they.

Jewish Publication Society Bible Version put it as :

And the servants of the king of Aram said unto him: 'Their God is a God of the hills; therefore they were stronger than we; but let us fight against them in the plain, and surely we shall be stronger than they.

American Standard Version (1901) put it as :

And the servants of the king of Syria said unto him, Their god is a god of the hills; therefore they were stronger than we: but let us fight against them in the plain, and surely we shall be stronger than they.

^^^^ the above verse is the statement from servants of the king of Syria called Benhadad informing the syrian militia on positioning of attack against Israel. He was informing them victory can only be achieved if they attack on plains or valley as Israel God is of the hills. However, different bible versions put God to be gods/god/God as contained in the bold part.

Is it that some translations are lying or wrong spelling God as god or gods; or the other translations are hiding the fact? Whether god/God since the message is truth, the verse is pointing to Jehovah aka Yahweh so definately Yahweh/Jehovah is also a god.

And it is glaring that bible translators are trying to hide some things while unfortunately, the red bold is exposing their hideous game that is God/god/gods of the hill. Since christians can call Amadioha; god of thunder and Ogun; god of Iron.....what is difference between them and Yahweh; the god of hills?


EVIDENCE THAT YAHWEH IS THE GOD OF HILL

Evidence 1 : Reading from Judge 1:19
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the hill-country; for he could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

^^^^the bold reveal that the servant of the syrian king was saying the truth. Yahweh was powerful to drive enemies of his people on the hills (hill country) but could not defeat the soldiers on the plain valley. This is very simple......Ogun is not winning a war for you without iron, Amahodia cant fight against your enemy when lightening is not involve. What then is the difference between Gods and Yahweh if Yahweh cant defeat enemines on the valley?

Evidence 2 : Pagans are called Idol worshippers because they reach and represent their spirit or Gods with natural substances like river, wind, or animals. So when they want to pray to their Gods, they communicate by getting close to what represent those Gods and pray to it.

- Moses went to the mountain for meeting Yahweh Exodus 24:15, Exodus 19:3

- Isaiah ordering Israelites to go to the mountain purposely for meeting Yahweh Isaiah 2:1-5

- Yahweh manifesting before Ezekiel on mountain Ezekiel 11:23

- Jesus went to the mountain Matthew 14:23, Luke 6:12

- the church of christ built on rocks

- christians praying and hosting crusade on mountains.

^^^^ The above shows christians and their prophets climb mountains, hill and rocks before reaching Yahweh. Just like Olokun shrine in the sea, the church of christ, do praying and crusading is on rock, mountains and hill. Just like Ogun worshipper reach spirit of Ogun through Iron, all the prophets in the bible reach Yahweh through mountains.

Christians should realise that they are also guilty of calling pagans Idol worshipper cuz Yahweh is a god and idol of the hills, mountains and rocks. The pot should stop calling kettle black......all ya are Idol worshippers.

Yawheh said to Moses that in olden times he was known as El-Shadai.

El- Shadai translates to The Great Mountain God, or God Of The Mountain.

So, you are factually correct.

plaetton: Yawheh said to Moses that in olden times he was known as El-Shadai.

El- Shadai translates to The Great Mountain God, or God Of The Mountain.

So, you are factually correct.

I had to confirm your statement and here is what I got from wikipedia.

El Shaddai
Another theory is that Shaddai is a derivation of a Semitic stem that appears in the Akkadian shadû ("mountain" and shaddā`û or shaddû`a ("mountain-dweller", one of the names of Amurru.

El mean God.
Shaddai mean mountain, destroyer and power.

This case is very simple, Obatala is the God of white clothes and also represent light and consciousness. Rocks in the ancient time were used as weapon and tool for killing animal, fighting enemy and destroying materials. Rocks also are hard and strong substances. Which mean Shaddai being strong and destroyer is a representation embedded in rocks, hills and mountains.

This is sharpest indication Yahweh is the god of mountains, hills, and rocks. Hmmmm

If anyone one reading this has come across "original Jewish religion" www.nairaland.com/1482409/original-religion-Jews

I stated there that The Jews worshipped numerous gods initially. Even Abraham was a pagan who's family was devoted to Sin/Naana(Assyrian god of the moon)

Yahweh now has been proved to be the god of hills and (possibly) fruitfulness.
But still he isn't the only god in judaism/christianity. There are more than we would surely find out with more research.


In the thread(link) above, I stated that Moses created a new religion for the Israelis, where all the Elohim(children of El) were worshipped as one god instead of the original amount that they were.

I expect to see more gods realized by Bible scholars to be worshipped by the Israelis

macof: If anyone one reading this has come across "original Jewish religion" www.nairaland.com/1482409/original-religion-Jews

I stated there that The Jews worshipped numerous gods initially. Even Abraham was a pagan who's family was devoted to Sin/Naana(Assyrian god of the moon)

Yahweh now has been proved to be the god of hills and (possibly) fruitfulness.
But still he isn't the only god in judaism/christianity. There are more than we would surely find out with more research.


In the thread(link) above, I stated that Moses created a new religion for the Israelis, where all the Elohim(children of El) were worshipped as one god instead of the original amount that they were.

I expect to see more gods realized by Bible scholars to be worshipped by the Israelis

Yahweh and most of the cultures of Israel are from canaan. Yahweh is among the deities of the canaanite. According to this site, http://booksnthoughts.com/ancient-jews-believed-in-the-existence-of-many-gods/ it is revealed that ancient jews believed in the existence of many Gods.

I think Moses brought the concept of Monotheism into Jewish system. He hold them to reject other Gods except Yahweh. There is a verse in the bible that describe Yahweh as husband and Israel as verse. The verse went further saying Israel divorce her former husband and went into prostitution. I think that mean they were worshipping another Gods.

Today Jews believe in YHWH Ruler of the universe. Considering the name too, it got no meaning. Jews do not believe in a "son" of G-d. Jews do not believe in a "holy ghost". There are no secondary gods or goddesses. There is also no Satan in Judaism, as this would suggest a power that could challenge G-d's, which cannot exist.

Note: "Messianic Judaism" is not Judaism. One of the major distinguishing factors between Judaism and christianity is the thought that Jesus is the Messiah. Jews reject Jesus. Therefore, people who claim to be "messianic Jews" or "Jews for Jesus" are just plain Christians.

genesis 22:2 god instructs Abraham to sacrifce isaac on a mountain. means that all sacrifice to him where usually done on mountains
Exodus 3:1 Moses went up to the mountain of god. when u read futher it was on the same mountain that god first appeared to him.

macof: genesis 22:2 god instructs Abraham to sacrifce isaac on a mountain. means that all sacrifice to him where usually done on mountains
Exodus 3:1 Moses went up to the mountain of god. when u read futher it was on the same mountain that god first appeared to him.

Rock of ages come to mind. This is truth as the formation of rocks has been for ages. Maybe or not Yahweh is the force or spirit that guild formation of Rocks or he give birth to rocks.

Just wondering why christian only view and ignore the thread without counter. Truth is scary. Lol

psalms 89:6 "for who in heaven can be compared to the Lord? who among the sons of God Almighty can be likened to the Lord?" this verse proves that "Lord" here is one of the Sons of El(the Almighty God). and we all know that the "Lord" is Yahweh

judges 9:46 mentions "El Berith aka Baalberith" who is another god in the ancient semitic religions. he was worshipped by Israel after they denied Yahweh/El shaddai judges 8:33-34 judges 9:4

The idol Baalberith, which the Jews worshipped after the death of Gideon, was identical, according to the Rabbis(Jews), with Baal-zebub, "the ba'al(lord) of flies," the god of Ekron (II Kings i. 2). He was worshipped in the shape of a fly; and Jewish tradition states that so addicted were the Jews to his cult that they would carry an image of him in their pockets, producing it, and kissing it from time to time. Baal-zebub is called Baal-berith because such Jews might be said to make a covenant (Hebrew: "Berit" of devotion with the idol, being unwilling to part with it for a single moment (Shab. 83b; comp. also Sanh. 63b). According to another conception, Baal-berith was an obscene article of idolatrous worship, possibly a simulacrum priapi (Yer. Shab. ix. 11d; 'Ab. Zarah iii. 43a). This is evidently based on the later significance of the word "berit," meaning circumcision

If we are to go by the above christianJudaic circumcision is an act in honor of Baalberith.

psalms 82:1 "God stood in the congregation of the Almighty, he judgeth among the Gods"
psalms 82:6 "I have said that you all are gods, and are children of the Most High"



God there is definately the God of Israel(Yahweh) who judges among other Gods
The Almighty/most high is "EL"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

Mount Sinai come to mind. That is the shrine of Yahweh

God is god of all;, mountain, human,animals, plants

mumumugu: God is god of all;, mountain, human,animals, plants

Elohim mean gods. Go and do more research bro.

And there isn't one almighty. Yahweh is an idol of the hills.

I have being patiently following religious threads on Nairaland. What I have seen is the inability to decodes/understands some proverbial/descriptive words used int he bible.
You need to know that bible is written in a proverbial/ narrative/ descriptive and personified manner. That is why you need the holy spirit to put you through when reading the bible. god will open your understanding for you to understand the scripture (Lk 24 vs 44-45). Ask (matt 7V7).

Bible is not literature or for the immature, you surely needed a guide in one way at one time if not many.

God of the Mountains:
This is not supposed to mean a God who resides in a mountain but don't you think a God who is above all other gods. As we know nothing is higher than a mountain. Then he can never be a God of the valley. mba!!

Take Heb 4 vs 12 for more detail,

(12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.)

Does this means that the word that comes from God's mouth will injure your soul and spirit? Or what will a sword do to a soul other harm?
The word of God can and will not harm you (if you believe for it is life and truth).

Friends wake up.
Read not bible word for words but understand what the message is all about. If you should spend all this time you have spent criticizing on to understanding, guys you would have gone far with God.


SHALOM.

Jakuta: I have being patiently following religious threads on Nairaland. What I have seen is the inability to decodes/understands some proverbial/descriptive words used int he bible.
You need to know that bible is written in a proverbial/ narrative/ descriptive and personified manner. That is why you need the holy spirit to put you through when reading the bible. god will open your understanding for you to understand the scripture (Lk 24 vs 44-45). Ask (matt 7V7).

Bible is not literature or for the immature, you surely needed a guide in one way at one time if not many.

God of the Mountains:
This is not supposed to mean a God who resides in a mountain but don't you think a God who is above all other gods. As we know nothing is higher than a mountain. Then he can never be a God of the valley. mba!!

Take Heb 4 vs 12 for more detail,

(12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.)

Does this means that the word that comes from God's mouth will injure your soul and spirit? Or what will a sword do to a soul other harm?
The word of God can and will not harm you (if you believe for it is life and truth).

Friends wake up.
Read not bible word for words but understand what the message is all about. If you should spend all this time you have spent criticizing on to understanding, guys you would have gone far with God.


SHALOM.

Shut up. You claim to have the holy spirit auto interpreter to help understand an already interpreted book.

why not show the power of ur holy spirit by reading the Bible in it's origin Hebrew and new testament in its Greek. Let's see the holy spirit at work.

U come here as if u know anything, saying u need holy spirit to think for u because the human brain is dead abi?

Best way to read a book is to read to understand and read unbiased not waiting for an impotent holy spirit to read a book for u.

If there's nothing I can't derive from the Bible with Intelligence and understanding, then there's nothing u can get through the unseen holy spirit

Jakuta: I have being patiently following religious threads on Nairaland. What I have seen is the inability to decodes/understands some proverbial/descriptive words used int he bible.
You need to know that bible is written in a proverbial/ narrative/ descriptive and personified manner. That is why you need the holy spirit to put you through when reading the bible. god will open your understanding for you to understand the scripture (Lk 24 vs 44-45). Ask (matt 7V7).

Bible is not literature or for the immature, you surely needed a guide in one way at one time if not many.

God of the Mountains:
This is not supposed to mean a God who resides in a mountain but don't you think a God who is above all other gods. As we know nothing is higher than a mountain. Then he can never be a God of the valley. mba!!

Take Heb 4 vs 12 for more detail,

(12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.)

Does this means that the word that comes from God's mouth will injure your soul and spirit? Or what will a sword do to a soul other harm?
The word of God can and will not harm you (if you believe for it is life and truth).

Friends wake up.
Read not bible word for words but understand what the message is all about. If you should spend all this time you have spent criticizing on to understanding, guys you would have gone far with God.


SHALOM.

How does this add to the OP? This is waste of time reading....bring up something related to the topic and stop weeping.

macof:

Shut up. You claim to have the holy spirit auto interpreter to help understand an already interpreted book.

why not show the power of ur holy spirit by reading the Bible in it's origin Hebrew and new testament in its Greek. Let's see the holy spirit at work.

U come here as if u know anything, saying u need holy spirit to think for u because the human brain is dead abi?

Best way to read a book is to read to understand and read unbiased not waiting for an impotent holy spirit to read a book for u.

If there's nothing I can't derive from the Bible with Intelligence and understanding, then there's nothing u can get through the unseen holy spirit

Laughing,
Can we do this without insult? I would appreciate that.

In all religion (if not all then almost all) there always be a custodian whom have deep knowledge of such religion. This means your mortal knowledge is not enough to go through a religion.

You need someone either in flesh or in spirit.

Human knowledge is biased, always based on their Lust and selfish believe that is why you need the Holy spirit who is not biased and have only the assignment of God at heart.

Remember 1st Corinthian Chap 1 vs 15-31?

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 ¶ For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
(KJV)


God be with you.

Jakuta:



Laughing,
Can we do this without insult? I would appreciate that.

In all religion (if not all then almost all) there always be a custodian whom have deep knowledge of such religion. This means your mortal knowledge is not enough to go through a religion.

You need someone either in flesh or in spirit.

Human knowledge is biased, always based on their Lust and selfish believe that is why you need the Holy spirit who is not biased and have only the assignment of God at heart.

Remember 1st Corinthian Chap 1 vs 15-31?

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 ¶ For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
(KJV)


God be with you.

And what is the moral of this? I cant make sense out of it. You just flooding this thread with rants and babble gilberish.


And your moniker, are you aworo sango?

FOLYKAZE:

How does this add to the OP? This is waste of time reading....bring up something related to the topic and stop weeping.

Please do this without insult. It's a forum, just debate. Pls pick no offense and lets learn from each other.

I am scared!!!!
How come you dont see what is related to the topic. Are we not talking of the God of the Hill?

My advise to you is that " You put away criticism when reading an opposite idea to understand the clear intent.

If you have being the bible like this.........I am scared

Jakuta:

Please do this without insult. It's a forum, just debate. Pls pick no offense and lets learn from each other.

I am scared!!!!
How come you dont see what is related to the topic. Are we not talking of the God of the Hill?

My advise to you is that " You put away criticism when reading an opposite idea to understand the clear intent.

If you have being the bible like this.........I am scared

Why have you kept the name of a Yoruba God

arent you a xtian?

Jakuta:

Please do this without insult. It's a forum, just debate. Pls pick no offense and lets learn from each other.

I am scared!!!!
How come you dont see what is related to the topic. Are we not talking of the God of the Hill?

My advise to you is that " You put away criticism when reading an opposite idea to understand the clear intent.

If you have being the bible like this.........I am scared

I have no problem wit u trying to defend wat u have been taught all ur life.
If it was me, I wud discard such.
But u don't come here claiming to know something, when u know nothing.

Your God is the mountain God of canaanland, I have more than enough prove from Hebrew-English dictionary and Bible, while u come here spreading thrash about needing holy spirit to understand something written in English

PAGAN 9JA:


Why have you kept the name of a Yoruba God

arent you a xtian?

It's one of the name variant of Jackie (Jacquetta) but spelt in Yoruba (Jakuta) as he is my favorite actor. It's my childhood nickname (spelt either way). Just have to use it again and not a Sango prototype.

yes God is the God of mountains, you are correct. But you should know what mountains mean in the bible.

"Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it." (Zechariah 4:7).

"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." (Revelation 17:9). what does mountain in the bible mean? It means nations Isaiah 41-14:16. So God is the God of Nations. And not a literal mountain, u do err.

MEILYN: yes God is the God of mountains, you are correct. But you should know what mountains mean in the bible.

"Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it." (Zechariah 4:7).

"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." (Revelation 17:9). what does mountain in the bible mean? It means nations Isaiah 41-14:16. So God is the God of Nations. And not a literal mountain, u do err.

Bull poo, u not using ur intelligence in d right way that's why Orunmila would always take it away from u.

These verses u show are made in poetic parables which aren't literal

U mean to tell me the entire Bible is not literal?

So when the Bible says "Jesus is the living son of God" we shouldnt take it literal?

Jakuta:

Please do this without insult. It's a forum, just debate. Pls pick no offense and lets learn from each other.

I am scared!!!!
How come you dont see what is related to the topic. Are we not talking of the God of the Hill?

My advise to you is that " You put away criticism when reading an opposite idea to understand the clear intent.

If you have being the bible like this.........I am scared

Another rants. Just show us how it relate with the OP.

Jakuta:

It's one of the name variant of Jackie (Jacquetta) but spelt in Yoruba (Jakuta) as he is my favorite actor. It's my childhood nickname (spelt either way). Just have to use it again and not a Sango prototype.

Jakuta is the name of Sango. This tactic of dodging whats facing you is dishonesty.

MEILYN: yes God is the God of mountains, you are correct. But you should know what mountains mean in the bible.

"Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it." (Zechariah 4:7).

"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." (Revelation 17:9). what does mountain in the bible mean? It means nations Isaiah 41-14:16. So God is the God of Nations. And not a literal mountain, u do err.

We know mountain or rocks symbolize strength and war. We know it symbolize destruction too following the meaning of El-shaddai and this kinda come from the use of stone in killing and fighting back in the days. Shaddai also could mean fertility. So what is the non literal you are talking about here?

FOLYKAZE:

We know mountain or rocks symbolize strength and war. We know it symbolize destruction too following the meaning of El-shaddai and this kinda come from the use of stone in killing and fighting back in the days. Shaddai also could mean fertility. So what is the non literal you are talking about here?

I agree with you, God is the God of mountains. Mountains means Nations. I wont say more than that.

macof:

Bull poo, u not using ur intelligence in d right way that's why Orunmila would always take it away from u.

These verses u show are made in poetic parables which aren't literal

U mean to tell me the entire Bible is not literal?

So when the Bible says "Jesus is the living son of God" we shouldnt take it literal?

Na you know watin you dey talk.

"I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:" (Psalm 78:2).... 89% of the bible are parables. You wont understand it, that explains why you keep spewing and saying trash about the bible, its because you dont understand it.

"And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: " (Mark 4:11). the bible is still a parable to you, that explains why you have been saying rubbish about the bible and speaking evil of God.

"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;" (2 Peter 2:12).

but erm, am here to warn you, macof, repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. Orunmila wont be able to save you when the time comes. The bible is real, prophecies have been fulfilled , that alone tells you how real the bible is. I rest my case. Be warned.

MEILYN: I agree with you, God is the God of mountains. Mountains means Nations. I wont say more than that.

Yes....the best english for mountain being called nations is simply hill-countries. We know that bra

MEILYN: Na you know watin you dey talk.

"I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:" (Psalm 78:2).... 89% of the bible are parables. You wont understand it, that explains why you keep spewing and saying trash about the bible, its because you dont understand it.

"And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: " (Mark 4:11). the bible is still a parable to you, that explains why you have been saying rubbish about the bible and speaking evil of God.

"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;" (2 Peter 2:12).

but erm, am here to warn you, macof, repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. Orunmila wont be able to save you when the time comes. The bible is real, prophecies have been fulfilled , that alone tells you how real the bible is. I rest my case. Be warned.

Is this how mountain turn to nation? Smh

And your blood thirsty God that reveal world war 3 to Obadiah couldn't see that he failed woefully? Are you guys not worshipping the same failure who revealed the vision to Obadiah. The God that is ready to suck the blood of little children and innocent women. Yeah....we know what happened to rocks....weathering breaks it down to plain. Your God has been defeated over and over again.

Yoruba: Eniyan ni ki e be, Olorun Oba ki i binu.

English: Humans are the ones to beg or to plead to, God never gets upset/angry/annoyed.

I dont know why you are human if your Ori cant save you.

Fear is a big factor affecting Christians. They have seen enough evidence and reasons to boycott their imported Jewish traditional religion,but a slave will still remain a slave regardless of his/her educational level/

FOLYKAZE:

Rock of ages come to mind. This is truth as the formation of rocks has been for ages. Maybe or not Yahweh is the force or spirit that guild formation of Rocks or he give birth to rocks.

Just wondering why christian only view and ignore the thread without counter. Truth is scary. Lol

considering the billions of cash earned from religion,no pastor will agree with this thread unless they are ready to forgo the materialism involved with Christianity.

macof:

Shut up. You claim to have the holy spirit auto interpreter to help understand an already interpreted book.

why not show the power of ur holy spirit by reading the Bible in it's origin Hebrew and new testament in its Greek. Let's see the holy spirit at work.

U come here as if u know anything, saying u need holy spirit to think for u because the human brain is dead abi?

Best way to read a book is to read to understand and read unbiased not waiting for an impotent holy spirit to read a book for u.

If there's nothing I can't derive from the Bible with Intelligence and understanding, then there's nothing u can get through the unseen holy spirit

thanks for keeping that slowpoke silent.