I am currently delving into the world of Big Data..and i am looking at a batch processing framework like Hadoop's MapReduce and Hdfs...

I am taking classes and i am putting this out there to see if there are like-minded folks with which we could share ideas and even look at a possibility of leveraging its technology in the Nigerian market....

Feel free to comment

kobikwelu: I am currently delving into the world of Big Data..and i am looking at a batch processing framework like Hadoop's MapReduce and Hdfs...

I am taking classes and i am putting this out there to see if there are like-minded folks with which we could share ideas and even look at a possibility of leveraging its technology in the Nigerian market....

Feel free to comment

you takg classes for hadoop or computer science?
Books (orielly etc) abound on how to use this framewrks?
A book+machine+time+focus and u gud 2 go.
Hadoop is linux oriented, so there's an obstacle for d windws coder.
**
Offensve y there is discrimnation against windws in ths age.**

Hadoop is Java based. Java runs equally well on Windows and Linux.

Seun: Hadoop is Java based. Java runs equally well on Windows and Linux.

hadoop and its clone hbase are inherently designed to work with linux. Theyre designed with linux /unix user in mind. (orielly "hbase the definitive guide" pg 40)

Seun: Hadoop is Java based. Java runs equally well on Windows and Linux.

You are correct. But just as mentioned above, Hadoop and its offsprings (HBase, Mahout, etc) will need cgywin to work on windows which means it cannot be used for production.

those frameworks were developed for unix.

kambo:
hadoop and its clone hbase are inherently designed to work with linux. Theyre designed with linux /unix user in mind. (orielly "hbase the definitive guide" pg 40)

very true, sir.

kambo: Offensve y there is discrimnation against windws in ths age.**

its simple, the beauty of linux.
Many developers are on unix, so it makes sense.

hadoop and its clone hbase are inherently designed to work with linux. Theyre designed with linux /unix user in mind. (orielly "hbase the definitive guide" pg 40)

but..windows is coming up with their own product that is designed to work on the platform, but it is in beta phase..only by VIP invitation....

Windows Azure HDinsight....

you takg classes for hadoop or computer science?
Books (orielly etc) abound on how to use this framewrks?
A book+machine+time+focus and u gud 2 go.
Hadoop is linux oriented, so there's an obstacle for d windws coder.
**
Offensve y there is discrimnation against windws in ths age.**

oga...I know the steps to take...
For someone in OOP (for a living) for years (Java, C#)...its exciting to go down a different route... + scala ...and voila..you have a perfect romance
i am looking for folks in the field already / working their way through it, to exchange ideas, and hopefully, write something propriety, not some high school directive for noobs

Pls,if you don't mind ,I will like to know where you take your classes @OP .I am also an aspiring data scientist.
Thanks

kobikwelu:

oga...I know the steps to take...
For someone in OOP (for a living) for years (Java, C#)...its exciting to go down a different route... + scala ...and voila..you have a perfect romance
i am looking for folks in the field already / working their way through it, to exchange ideas, and hopefully, write something propriety, not some high school directive for noobs

there's nothg about usg a piece of technology tht warrants taking classes,except where learng materials are scarce.

But if a class is ur thing, so be it.
I was just suggestg.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


That is the frustrating thing about Nairaland...Its full of Wikipedia professionalists....

The op clearly requested for folks in the field /working through it.. there is/was a reason i requested for real world Hadoop professionals..instead someone came and started asking me to start with a Machine to practice....

I told you i'm taking classes... Don't you know when you are a professional on the job ....you attend classes ON THE JOB TRAINING MANDATED BY YOUR JOB....

please read before rushing to show off for God knows who....

Pls,if you don't mind ,I will like to know where you take your classes @OP .I am also an aspiring data scientist.
Thanks

Mine is more like propriety Job sponsored training....by Cloudera....expensive...

but you can Google Hadoop, there are some materials out there to help you...

kobikwelu: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


That is the frustrating thing about Nairaland...Its full of Wikipedia professionalists....

The op clearly requested for folks in the field /working through it.. there is/was a reason i requested for real world Hadoop professionals..instead someone came and started asking me to start with a Machine to practice....

I told you i'm taking classes... Don't you know when you are a professional on the job ....you attend classes ON THE JOB TRAINING MANDATED BY YOUR JOB....

please read before rushing to show off for God knows who....

stop ventg like a tart.

Show off for what?u?
If you posted ur request on a more visited programmer forum many wudve said somethg similar.
Wat will d class teach you u cudnt learn via documentation?
Did you read where i,in essence, said, u shud do wat suites you.
Only a warped mind treats a helpful suggestion as showg off.

kobikwelu:

Mine is more like propriety Job sponsored training....by Cloudera....expensive...

but you can Google Hadoop, there are some materials out there to help you...

Cloudera? Wow good one bro.

U will learn from the horse's mouth

stop ventg like a tart.

Show off for what?u?
If you posted ur request on a more visited programmer forum many wudve said somethg similar.
Wat will d class teach you u cudnt learn via documentation?
Did you read where i,in essence, said, u shud do wat suites you.
Only a warped mind treats a helpful suggestion as showg off.

^^^^
Helpful suggestion? Helpful suggestion?
Please tell me how your n00B directive will help me....
please....

Incase you have not noticed...THE POST WAS FOR HADOOP PROFESSIONALS...i was specifically seeking Nigerians in the field.(IN THE FIELD)...

your case is likened to thus....

If you don't know, keep silent (and let folks assume you may know)...cause when you open your mouth people will know for a fact that YOU KNOW NOT!!


Please ooo read the post again....

kobikwelu: I am currently delving into the world of Big Data..and i am looking at a batch processing framework like Hadoop's MapReduce and Hdfs...
......

Feel free to comment

bf u get huffy and crass look @ what u wrote.
You said ur a noob.
(delving into = beginning=noob)
Now u're calling urself a professional.
Btwn ur first and last post u bcame a professional? And arrogant enuff to call others noobs!

The word hadoop or big data or hdfs probably makes u giddy.
Takg classes makes u feel unique.
There's nothg to usg technology x , tht a pragmatc programmer cant master in time usg more pragmatic techniques, unlike ur bloated high soundg methods- Classes,cloudera,professional.
Snooty Jargons.
Professional hadoop user .
Professional jar file user.

U like classes, others like orielly books.
Besides, i'm not even a noob i dnt use hadoop just downloaded the jar file and ebook-2 years ago ,
if i need to use it. I've got all i need. And if i wanted to know it,i'd have mastered it 2 years bf ur snooty post.

^^^^^
and where did i say i am a professional Data scientist that has used HADOOP BEFORE...show me....

i said your advice was USELESS..."thas" all.....

if my post was like...

hey ...i am trying to learn Hadoop and i don't know what to do and how to go about it...someone help me out...then your Advice would be worth some salt....

The word hadoop or big data or hdfs probably makes u giddy.
Takg classes makes u feel unique.
There's nothg to usg technology x , tht a pragmatc programmer cant master in time usg more pragmatic techniques, unlike ur bloated high soundg methods- Classes,cloudera,professional.
Snooty Jargons.
Professional hadoop user .
Professional jar file user.

^^
really?? come talk to me when you have been coding for 10+ years for a living...ohhh wait..i forgot..probably you were in high school/secondary school by then...

And if i wanted to know it,i'd have mastered it 2 years bf ur snooty post.

Exactly!!!..your post has reiterated my fears..YOU ACTUALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE ISSUE.....NOTHING..but in your attempt to be a guru/sage..you just rushed to illustrate your ineptness on the matter....

all you had to do was provide some constructive advice like the non-n00b you say you are and i will take you seriously...and then YOU OPENED YOUR MOUTH

too bad you happened to stumble on the wrong thread...
Kindly move to the other programming threads and continue your **local championship**

You are both getting this wrong. This section of nairaland is supposed to be a place where you are to help yourselves and not argue to boost your egos. You guys know a thing about big data but followed different paths. The important thing is being good at what you are doing. Documentation can take you there in same way as taking classes. Don't rubbish the path taken by another person simply because it differs from your path. Hope you settle your differences and engage in meaningful discussion that can benefit the two of you and many others (including myself) that are silently following this thread.

^^^^^^

its basically not about egos..its about exposing phoneys...

Trust me, you don't know how frustrating it is to post something and expect viable replies that could be of help....only to see one counterfeit come across to waste your time...

@dannie
leave the poster.
He's uncouth and uncivilized. Your post reeks of rudeness.

Add to tht his quickness to display his illiteracy.

@op
if you work in a comp i doubt u get promoted.

You say in ur own words
"i am delving into ...."
"and currently takg classes"
what do those sentences connote?
Expertise or beginner?
Sombody suggests - use approach 2:books+pc+internet
which is a typical route most developers use.
And u degenerate.

Labels like useless advice
showing off
10+ years experience
bla bla
come out of you.

You need to b bundled into a zoo.
10 yrs of programming ( or is installing compilers/ides for d more intelligent creatures in ur company )
has washed off all forms of civility from you.

This is a faceless forum but practice civility .it helps your professional image.

Ur x-years in programmg means nothg. Wat matters is wat u've achieved and can achieve.


** i dnt have any interest in engagg in silly exchnges with u.
( i know u like it) but find sb else to do tht with **

^^^^^^^^^^

looooooool

o boy..you are making this too easy for me..........LOOOOOOOOOL..
i feel bad for you.....that feeling when your world is crumbling around you..when you realize your "expert advice" is completely and totally useless...

Ur x-years in programmg means nothg. Wat matters is wat u've achieved and can achieve

^^^

yeahhh..right..keep consoling yourself

10 yrs of programming ( or is installing compilers/ides for d more intelligent creatures in ur company )

^^^
damn..you are really getting desperate..



look boy...

i eat phony-ies / frauds like you for breakfast...

The moral of the story
Next time, if you don't have anything helpful to say, keep you mouth shut....

Labels like useless advice
showing off
10+ years experience
bla bla
come out of you.

^^^
what is this one saying??

wait!!!! i hope you are not typing all these from your phone on BIS Please tell me you are not doing all these from your BIS phone...

That being said, to everyone else, i am sorry for derailing this thread a bit...i had to swat some flies.....

Please feel free to offer your expert advice or ask reasonable questions..who knows i might put out some of my materials from my "class"




***i'm having too much fun with this....imagine what i could do to the programming section if i was a moderator***

.....

kobikwelu: ^^^^^^^^^^

looooooool

o boy..you are making this too easy for me..........LOOOOOOOOOL..
i feel bad for you.....that feeling when your world is crumbling around you..when you realize your "expert advice" is completely and totally useless...

^^^

yeahhh..right..keep consoling yourself



^^^
damn..you are really getting desperate..



look boy...

i eat phony-ies / frauds like you for breakfast...

The moral of the story
Next time, if you don't have anything helpful to say, keep you mouth shut....


^^^
what is this one saying??

wait!!!! i hope you are not typing all these from your phone on BIS Please tell me you are not doing all these from your BIS phone...

you appear more like a fool who came to run his mouth.
from the limited education you've had what suggestion made to your initial post would qualify as "Expert advice".
YOu spout phrases you can't defend like a parrot. just parroting.
What initial impression did your first post give - objectively analyse it.
It seems you cam to announce you're using hadoop or want to use it.
Wasting your companies money and time in big name training . For the record,
Your manager would be more impressed if you told him /her - i can buy /get a book on hadoop ,
download the jar files and get going with it in a few days/weeks. if any issue arises in using it,
i will call in customer support in company x for paid help. "
But you're porous mind couldnt think this up.
just wanted to blab junk.
maybe you're uploading pix of you at the traning session on your facebook page? i guess so.
its the kind of nonsense empty containers like you produce.


" i eat phonies / [fraud]s like you " - anoda senseless quip. you eat senseless thinking for dinner lunch and break fast and speak and regurgitate senselessness.
where did the phoniness come from or the fraud come from? - you can't defend this.
you spout illogicity without thinking..

"consoling yourself" - about what? discussing with a baboon?
a day ago you were a noob trying to explore a tech.
A day after you're a professional brushing off suggestion and advice insultingly.
console myself
for you? you wish.

" next time you dont have anything helpful to say ... "
- like the base minion you are you couldnt help injecting this refrain of yours.
Again, objectively pin point the "uselessness" you detected. can you?.
if you could ,i assure other readers here will respect you. you'll be showing and ability to
debug supposedly faulty reasoning outside of your disgusting illiterate quips.
illiterate not because you can't read basic english but you cant produce an intelligent response outside
shallow cussings.
Look, if you cant communicate your intent clearly, get a sombody else to do your writing for you.
Besides i dont think you've ever engaged in any post on this room for this length.
prove me wrong,but your types come into their own when their spouting foolish baselessness like i've seen here.

" ... hope you're not typing this from your phone on BIS " -
this is your end line.
meaning? - bis phone's dont reflect on NL or you can't read it cuz its bis. how about non-bis phones.

if only there was some badge or lapel to wear around after taking your classes in a technology more
savvy develper overview in their pants/boxers at 1 am in the morning over an internet connection
and an ebook on the other hand.
Chase your pins and labels. and bust ear drums telling people you're a professional over
minor technology.
have you gotten props in no-sql? or you want to open another thread to brag about that too?
Like you brag about you 10 years of meaningless meandering in programming...
will you open a thread to explore java 8 too - its coming out soon.
How about machine learning - ooh that one involves maths . You'll probably take down nairaland forum
and the mods will ban you for overburdening their servers with threads. I guess you'll post your pix
with each posting..
You badly want the titles . sorry bro.
programming aint politics. Earn and display your sweat first.

*to the room*
sorry for getting so explicit.
but excited monkeys shouldnt be handled with kid gloves . like this fella over here.
Thought i was dealing with a sensible person and offered my view point. but fella went off like a rocket
and degenerated his thread..
his first ounce of stupi.dity came from making snide references and labelling a class of
folks "wikipedia experts" ...
this creature still has a far way to go. still needs some training.

^^^^^^

and i have told you what my level of experience in Java....
Do you want me to tell you my portfolio....

clues---check out Metallic level Health insurance
Accountable care organisation implementation
Tobacco usage implementation

just a few examples of real life work (in just the past 6 months)which i don't you think you can fanthom...
I know you will call this bragging...but when you sit at the Templar's Roundtable, you are supposed to come with some level of cache...so that folks will look at your body of work and be able to infer the possibility of if you can be of help... which in this case, you have not come close

If you had actually posted something that had to do with Hadoop's implementation..trust me, we would have been having a different conversation by now, but all you've done is confirm that you are a phoney....registered phoney...

have you gotten props in no-sql? or you want to open another thread to brag about that too?
Like you brag about you 10 years of meaningless meandering in programming...
will you open a thread to explore java 8 too - its coming out soon.
How about machine learning - ooh that one involves maths . You'll probably take down nairaland forum

hahahaha..is that all?? why don't you add Apache spark, play, spray.......keep on...

my initial post

I am currently delving into the world of Big Data..and i am looking at a batch processing framework like Hadoop's MapReduce and Hdfs...

I am taking classes and i am putting this out there to see[b] if there are like-minded folks with which we could share ideas and even look at a possibility of leveraging its technology in the Nigerian market....[/b]

and your USELESS REPLY....I REPEAT COMPLETELY USELESS AND OF NO USE WHATSOEVER

you takg classes for hadoop or computer science?
Books (orielly etc) abound on how to use this framewrks?
A book+machine+time+focus and u gud 2 go.
Hadoop is linux oriented, so there's an obstacle for d windws coder.

I have asked and asked and asked.....HOW IS THIS OF IMPORTANCE TO ME....HOW WILL THIS HELP ME....

And why did you reply?? i thought you said that your post was the last one?? but like the drowning man, you are struggling for life.....struggling for something to take home...

Again, objectively pin point the "uselessness" you detected. can you?.
if you could ,i assure other readers here will respect you. you'll be showing and ability to
debug supposedly faulty reasoning outside of your disgusting illiterate quips.
illiterate not because you can't read basic english but you cant produce an intelligent response outside
shallow cussings.

i never cussed you..i just called you a phoney / fraud .....

Your manager would be more impressed if you told him /her - i can buy /get a book on hadoop ,
download the jar files and get going with it in a few days/weeks. if any issue arises in using it,
i will call in customer support in company x for paid help. "
But you're porous mind couldnt think this up

yet again, you open your mouth..and it just shows your inexperience.....

look son, there is something call platform migration....and if you are a listed company that is to engage in a major project for a fortune 500 coy in the HealthCare industry, there is another thing called mandatory certification for all Engineers in order to be eligible to begin work on the project....related to SOW (feel free to google this fast ..no one is watching) and contractual obligations....

but you cant understand...i guess...




I REPEAT YOU ARE A PHONEY!!!...I feel bad (you seem enthusiastic but naive (probably in your early 20's)) **sorry to hurt your feelings**, but i say it as it is.....at least next time, you will read a thread properly

and by the way, thanks for your comic relief...its fun seeing you struggle

^^^^^
hurt my feelings. ugh. i'm above that.
" COMPLETELY USELESS I REPEAT COMPLETELY USELESS "
SO YOU SAY.
like i said . i pointed out an alternative route to achieving you touted objectives.
so if you say it was useless. you're being deliberately porous minded.
Because as a programmer , if you say you are one, such arrant statements shouldnt spew from you.

I repeat for your information that I DONT USE HADOOP OR BIG DATA.
because i dont need to . if i needed to , or if any developer needed to , they'd pick it up in a breeze
because all you're using is a framework.
But you're deluded by the so-called grandeur of using a mere data storage frame work.
you'r thinking levels and such nonsense.

You're statement about what you've implemented is nonsense.
i dont bother with empty blab.
if i wanted to write any of the programs you said yo've written i'd write.
So stop your foolish atttempts at besting.
it makes your look childish.
I never introduced besting or one upmanship into the reply but empty brains like you did.
again you show case your shallow ness.

Developers have critiqued and fumed on this forum but you never see any one besting the other.
for what?
Let me give you an example.
if you were debating a capable programmer who wasnt at your level, but was better than you intellectually, woud your output side by side his own at that moment in time reveal his true capabilities?
No. you the mediocre sub par one could come out at superior to him. But in time he may so surpass
you ,you wont be able to hold a candle to him.
so the see besting is useless.
Think b4 you post. There were decades old programmers before any of the
tech titans of internet days were born. and yet what did their years of experience
add up to at the end compared to the one the lookd upon as a noob?
summary : comparison at point in time is baseless. thank me for the lesson.

Only a fool would say that a valid alternative route was nonsense.
And in your arrogance you went to such lenght to stick to your denial.

like i said. look at your initial question,the phrasing and the impression you created.
- the depth of your foolishness is boundless.
post your comment to other programmers where you work and ask to the say what they think of the initial post.


"look son , there's something called platform migration ... "
-
i smh for you.
Look ,hot air balloon, there's something called industry practices and corporate culture and company culture.
It doesnt affect nadir.
In some consultancy , they expect the java devs to be all certified to have a chance for bidding for work.
What does that change.
In others , they don't.
How does that affect the dev who learns the technology either way.
That, if you bought a book and read it and practiced , the knowledge wouldnt stick because you were'nt
certified by a trainer. so you're brains cells failed to retain the knowledge.
You call yourself a programmer and yet you come here advertising holes in your thinking.
You now want to pass on industry jargons in your locality , to me.
What of others in other localities where does practices dont apply?

Industry jargons and your corporate policy mandated your learning route and so what? it became the standard.
YOu can't think. And you can't explain yourself.
while you are letting corporate institutions suture your work profile,
let me help you out with my thinking..
we are talking knowledge acquisition and deployment.
The politics and culture angle is out of scope.
my proposed path way to knowledge acquisition and deployment is not inferior for
not being the pattern used in your industry because if you grok the facts on your own without
certificates from classes your career will be at stake.
The engineer word you used is a high sounding term corporates give to programmers.
You shallow scream can now be seen in perspective of (learning for career boosting hence the certification from classes)
but if you use you head - and do some thinking - if it werent so porous,
you'll see abounding examples of others who also make money/wealth using
knowledge acquisition+deployment .
I wont go into details of what i mean.
maintain your starry specs. refactor your thinking through your corporate environment and culture.
-Engineer.

^^^^^^^^


I am still cracking up at your moon walk......Even the great Micheal - Jackson (God rest his soul) will be impressed

let me re-post my original post and explain why your comments were USELESS...

I am currently delving into the world of Big Data..and i am looking at a batch processing framework like Hadoop's MapReduce and Hdfs...

I am taking classes and i am putting this out there to see if there are like-minded folks with which we could share ideas and even look at a possibility of leveraging its technology in the Nigerian market....

The first line says i am taking classes.....Its not as if i am lost in the dark, or have no clue what to do..i am already taking classes....
The second line is looking for like-minded folks.....what does this mean? ...it means that the the OP is looking for someone currently using it, which means you will most likely be already using it in a propriety fashion, or you are taking some training of some sorts whether self trained or tutored..
The last line is looking at the possibility of working as a team..to come up with something that can be used for some profit making...

well, there you go..ive broken down every thing for you to understand


and now, let me post your comment.......

you takg classes for hadoop or computer science?
Books (orielly etc) abound on how to use this framewrks?
A book+machine+time+focus and u gud 2 go.
Hadoop is linux oriented, so there's an obstacle for d windws coder.

^^^

when ever i read this, i automatically come down with a headache....
i mean what did i do...infact who did i offend to deserve this response...

your response is telling me about using a book + machine +time + focus as if you are talking to a secondary school student looking for something to keep himself busy....

That was why i had to put you straight...**there is nothing wrong with some discipline**....you deserved it ..to keep your swash buckling attitude in check......

Developers have critiqued and fumed on this forum but you never see any one besting the other.
for what.
Let me give you an example.
if you were debating a capable programmer who wasnt at your level, but was better than you intellectually, woud your output side by side his own at that moment in time reveal his true capabilities?
No. you the mediocre sub par one could come out at superior to him. But in time he may so surpass
you ,you wont be able to hold a candle to him.
Only a fool would say that a valid alternative route was nonsense.
And in your arrogance you went to such lenght to stick to your denial.

Did i ask for an alternative route??..ohhh great guru....

Its just like going to the market to request for Habenero peppers....and you know Habanero peppers is specifically what you require for your soup
then one counterfeit/phoney/fraud will come along to advice you to use sweet peppers..i mean... no one said you cannot cook with sweet peppers but you specifically requested for Habenero peppers...automatically the counterfeit's idea is COMPLETELY USELESS....just like what you suggested..TOTALLY USELESS in my post...


You wanted to dine at the Templar's Roundtable and i simply presented you with a subset of my cache and asked you for yours...
you started moon walking telling me that you are destined for greatness in the future.....yet you expect me to take you seriously..

and now we are talking about Corporate culture ..i thought that a couple of replies ago i was installing compilers / IDE's for a living

lmaoooo.....the struggle.....

Son ...

Damn!

Hilarious, in the least.

Na wah oh!

Please, where are the jobs for this skillset. What coys are recruiting? Which industries are hiring? Which subsectors are demanding for this competency? Thank you.