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| NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by abuchilag: 8:28am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Lab scientists slam doctors’ position on IVD importation 1 hour ago …NMA may begin strike tomorrow The Association of Medical Laboratory Scientists of Nigeria, AMLSN, has condemned doctors in the country for their opposition to a recent circular issued by the Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, authorising it to regulate the importation of In-Vitro Diagnostics, IVDs, into Nigeria. The group stated this at a briefing in Abuja at the weekend, through its President, Dr. Godswill Okara. The CBN had recently issued a circular demanding that the laboratory scientists take up the responsibility of regulating the importation of IVDs, which hitherto had been done by the National Agency for Food, Drug Administration and Control, NAFDAC, and the Standards Organisation of Nigeria, SON. But doctors, under the aegis of the Nigerian Medical Association, NMA, had kicked against the CBN’s directive, urging the apex bank to withdraw the circular. The NMA, through its president, Kayode Obembe, threatened that doctors across the country would down tools, if the CBN refused to withdraw the circular. The planned strike might begin tomorrow, as the doctors’ two-week ultimatum on the matter and other demands from government, ends today. IVDs comprise diagnostic apparatus, namely reagent product, reagent, chemical calibrator, controlled material, kit, instrument, apparatus equipment or system, whether used alone or in combination, intended by the manufacturer to be used in-vitro for the examination of specimens, including blood and tissue donations derived from the human body, solely or principally for the purpose of providing information for diagnoses and treatment. “It is on record that close to 50 per cent of public health in-vitro diagnostics, reagent test kits, chemical and equipment in the Nigerian today are sub-standard, fake, expired or poorly stored and distributed. “It was in order to stem this ugly trend that the Medical Laboratory Science Council of Nigeria, in keeping with her statutory mandate and the Transformation Agenda of Mr. President. decided to set up the ultra-modern Public Health In-vitro Diagnostic Control Laboratory in Nigeria, the first of such a specialised laboratory in Africa,” the association said. http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/lab-scientists-slam-doctors-position-on-ivd-importation/ |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 8:32am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Don't get it. What's cbn business in this brouhaha? 1 Like |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 8:33am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem: Don't get it. What's cbn business in this brouhaha?Importation has to do with foreign exchange and that's where CBN comes in. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 8:35am On Jun 30, 2014 |
What is NMA's business with IVDs? Are they the Medical Laboratory Scientists that use them? They should focus on their profession and stop claiming what they are not. 1 Like |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 8:37am On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: Ok, thanks for this. 2 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by cbrass(m): 9:22am On Jun 30, 2014 |
There is more to this story, are u saying the one built by gey's transformation agenda won't make us of the imported IVDs u claim are fake or are u guys producing urs ur self  Am not a medical guy o abeg |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by seunfly: 9:34am On Jun 30, 2014 |
What is the problem of this doctors? They don't want other medical practisioners to do their job. They fight over the grade level of pharmacist, they fight over the wages and power of nurses, they fight to head medical lab in their laboratries and now they fight over d importation of medical lab equipments. Typical nigerian mentality of dominate all and achieve nothing. 8 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 9:39am On Jun 30, 2014 |
seunfly: What is the problem of this doctors? They don't want other medical practisioners to do their job. They fight over the grade level of pharmacist, they fight over the wages and power of nurses, they fight to head medical lab in their laboratries and now they fight over d importation of medical lab equipments. Typical nigerian mentality of dominate all and achieve nothing.Don't mind them. They are afraid. They know that they are nothing without the other professionals. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 10:05am On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: Ok then, let the other professionals proceed in attending to patients as soon as they commence strike tomorrow instead of discharging them. I know it isn't fair, life isn't fair either but doctors are number one in the health sector. Deal with that. 3 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 10:11am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem:We know they are number one and we respect them for their profession because we are close to them but it isn't fair if they use their position to usurp the rights and privileges of others. How would they react if the FG does same to them. If you are in the medical profession you would know that they really need these other professionals. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 10:15am On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: On this issue, I think the doctors don't have a point but on several issues like allowing consultants for other professionals and similar demands, i think it's bullshit. 3 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 10:29am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem:Sorry sir but please permit me to ask. Are you a medical professional? Do you know who a consultant is? Consultancy in other medical fields will bring real competition and the doctors are afraid of that. If they aren't let them allow it and let's see the outcome. 1 Like |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 10:35am On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: Am not a medical professional and at the same time not a novice. Of cos I know who consultants are and I know fully well what they are subjected to to achieved such. Are other professionals within the sector subjected to such training and sacrifices for them to demand for such? What is the international standard? In sane societies, what is being practiced there. This case is similar to the university system if ssanu and nasu should be requesting to be at pari pasu with ASUU. It's not possible U guys are professionals in ur own right but eh, doctors are superior in all aspects within the same sector. 3 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by seunfly: 10:43am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem:The truth is that doctors in Nigeria are steping out of their bounderies to affect other profession's right, medical feild is like other feild where we have symbiotic relationship and no prefession can do without others but like every ecosystem one must be at the top of the chain, in this case doctors are at the to top. However every each profession has it role and it should be respected by every members of the sector. Like i said before, it is typical nigerian mentality of vanity, we also see this play out in enviromental sector where architect wants to head planning when we have town planner, architech wants to dominate survey section, they want stake in real estate etc. Due to our greed, lawlesness and unorganised society, every body damble into any thing and if you re powerful enough, you dominate and take it away from the rightful owner. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 10:57am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem: At present, medical doctors dont earn two doctorate degrees even after they go for PG studies. Other medical professionals graduate with Bachelors in their respective fields and go on to do PG before getting their Doctorate. We all know that consultancy is optional but important and the MLSCN is introducing the 6-year DMLS programme in universities. Pharmacists have Pharm. D. The preparations for consultancy are on-going and it would be good if the FG signs the agreement. It would be a continuous process and help to encourage those from other medical professions. Already, the AMLSN has men who are consultants in their own right just that they are not officially regarded as such e.g. Prof. Agbonlahor, Dr O. G. Avwioro, Prof A.A. Ngokere, etc. You know what? The medical doctors have consultants in some specialties of MLS and I think, Pharmacy. Go to any tertiary health centre and you'll see that they have a Consultant Haematologist or Consultant Pathologist. They are afraid that if these guys who actually own the profession become consultants, there will be real competition. Meanwhile, the medical doctors have other areas and we dare not compete in those areas because we aren't specialists in those areas e.g. O & G, Paediatrics, ENT, etc. So why not leave the little we have and allow us to do well in ours. After all, we aren't stopping them from being consultants in our fields. 4 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by abuchilag: 11:02am On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem: Sir, I beg to differ on that. Let them stop this comparison of who is superior or not and face the oath of the profession. Sanctity of life should not be toiled with. Talking of sacrifice.....what sacrifice are they making that is out of this world? Remember, they are paid all sorts of allowances which people in other sectors don't get. The salary and allowance they get is commensurate with the sacrifice they make. If every sector should claim superiority over another, there will be wahala. Please note that they are not agitating for salary increment cos I believe they are well paid......they are simply fighting their colleagues in the health sector. If you talk of sacrifice, why not talk about our military men who risk their lives on daily basis to protect the territorial integrity of the nation. They should just put their house in order. They are simply holding the nation to ransome because the presidency is tolerating their rubbish. 5 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 11:10am On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: I understand u perfectly however can u kindly share what is being practiced in other saner climes. A perfect example should be a non doctor that is a consultant pathologist or whatever u call them? 2 Likes |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 11:13am On Jun 30, 2014 |
abuchilag: I respect ur view but disagree somehow with it. Johesu itself was created to fight the doctors so what are we saying? Probably the word superior is harsh but it's tge reality. The sick goes to the hospital to see doctors and not nurses, pathologist, lab attendance etc. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Nobody: 11:16am On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: What is NMA's business with IVDs? Are they the Medical Laboratory Scientists that use them? They should focus on their profession and stop claiming what they are not.NMA is scared of every other health professionals |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 2:15pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Demdem:Sorry, I'm not so conversant with what happens in developed countries. I need to do more research. What I know is that over there, the profession is well advanced beyond ours and that's what the JOHESU is fighting for. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 3:03pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Dp |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Demdem(m): 3:05pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
obi4eze: Fair enough. However since we all desire a system near perfection as it is in saner climes, nothing wrong if we adopt such. Kindly feed us with ur research results as soon as this is done. 1 Like |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
These johesu ppl here are not ashamed that a non medical staff is putting them to order. Na only Una waka come for all the nonsense u have been spitting |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by abuchilag: 7:43pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Evergreen123: These johesu ppl here are not ashamed that a non medical staff is putting them to order. sorry sir. your point isn't clear enough. I strongly believe that NMA is messing up because the FG thru the minister of health is giving them so much attention. What we are talking about here is regulation of equipments used by these professionals- Lab scientists and not the one used by doctors. The in-fighting in the health sector is alarming. If they can't hold a strong front within them, how can they collectively fight for a common goal. Initially their strike was for better condition of service, better remuneration, better facilities in our hospitals.....these fights went on for a long time at the expense of the poor patients. Why would the poor masses still suffer when the doctors are fighting their colleagues. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
abuchilag: who performs ivf in Nigeria? |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 8:33am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Evergreen123:IVF is different from IVD. IVF is in-vitro fertilization i.e. fertilization of the female egg outside the female's body (in layman's terms) while IVDs are reagents and other things used in lab. diagnosis. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 8:40am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Demdem:Sir, I would like to refer you to this thread. I just saw it on this forum. https://www.nairaland.com/1794142/nma-egocentric-demands-height-gross#24380430 Of relevance is number 4 which talks about the consultancy issue. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Nobody: 10:56am On Jul 01, 2014 |
obi4eze:What's the full meaning of ivds |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 11:03am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Evergreen123:IVDs is acronym for in-vitro diagnostics |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by Nobody: 11:10am On Jul 01, 2014 |
obi4eze: my dear, doctors are the ones that do in vitro jobs in Nigeria, u ppl could have been helping out in the research but u chose to fight for cmd things and so, thereby reducing ur advancement in these tnz. U ppl should leave these market women talk and go professional. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by obi4eze(m): 11:18am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Evergreen123:Are you sure? We are talking about in-vitro diagnostics not in-vitro fertilization or in-vivo diagnostics. Formalin is an ivd and is used for fixation. Other ivds include HbsAg test kit, PT kit, mp kit, etc Just trying to make a correction. |
| Re: NMA Kicks As CBN Authorises Med Lab Scientists To Regulate Importation Of IVDS. by hurricaneChris: 4:38pm On Jul 01, 2014 |
seunfly: Hey bro! In six 6years of architecture, you'll go through almost all the courses in environmental science. Because u are expected to know all of them. Someone in quantity survey for example, should not necessarily understand the design criteria. This issue has created lot of misunderstanding between Architects and others. But the truth remains; Architects learn all their courses while in school, while they only study one course in architecture so that they can understand architectural drawings. So forget the case of Architects and others in the environmental organization. A doctor who studies most of med lab courses bfo 4th MBBS, and btw 4th and final MBBS, he studies courses like pharmacology and physiology. Why won't he have say have a say? And am sure it's doctors who do the IVDs in naija here |
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