In 2003 a professor of Community Health Prof (Mrs) Obehi Okojie said to us "many people hate doctors, but they want their children to study Medicine"...I've never heard a more honest statement in my entire life....If there was a world cup 4 hypocrisy, Nigeria would be winning it every four years. So all u guys who have been insulting and bashing Nigerian doctors out of a combination of envy, jealousy and ignorance are now leading d "mourning" for Dr Adadevoh.....oh I see....all of a sudden, u guys appreciate d sacrificies doctors make for their patients despite all d challenges confronting d health sector.....challenges which d FG is not willing to address....well your "friend" Goodluck Jonathan has just travelled to Germany 4 medical check-up and left d rest of u ignorant people behind in Nigeria. Well, at least u can call your JOHESU "consultants" to come and attend 2 u if u have any health issues. But I forgot...since d outbreak of Ebola, JOHESU has been unusually silent....of course they are...because they lack d intellectual capacity and proactiveness to deal with d Ebola outbreak...AFTERALL, IT WAS THEIR "DARLING" NURSE WHO ESCAPED QUARANTINE, RAN TO ENUGU, AND PUT D LIVES OF MILLIONS OF NIGERIANS AT RISK...so it's back 2 d usual unsung heroes "the doctors" to handle. Dr Adadevoh isn't d only doctor who makes sacrifices for her patients. Thousands of doctors all over d country do. Some of us even go as far as making financial donations on behalf of poor patients who can't afford healthcare. I've witnessed this, and I've partaken in it as well. Now let's look at this: Contracting a disease like Ebola is part of d HAZARDS of d medical profession, and currently d FG pays doctors a monthly hazard allowance of N5k....so Dr Adadevoh was entitled to the GRAND SUM of N5k monthly for putting herself at risk of contracting d Ebola virus as well as other highly-transmissible diseases like HIV, Hepatitis and Lassa Fever (which killed a dear friend and colleague of mine some years back). And somebody wants us to just sit back and act like nothhing's wrong with d system? NO we won't. You guys attack Nigerian doctors for running private clinics, but all of a sudden, u turn around and praise Dr Adadevoh who was ALSO WORKING in a private hospital as at d time of her death. U Nigerians are amazing. Well, in case u don't know, d ban on residency training will have disastrous consequences on d health sector....consequences that only d average Nigerian like you and I will suffer. Politicians will continue to travel abroad for d slightest headache, while you and me are left in Nigeria to suffer d rot of d health sector. A ban on residency training means a stoppage in d production of SPECIALIST DOCTORS. So by the time that your child with Sickle Cell has to travel abroad to see a specialist, or women with Fibroids have to travel abroad for a simple Myomectomy operation, you will realize d rot in which d FG has placed d health sector. So continue your blind and sentimental support for stupidity....as for we doctors, d sky is always d limit, no matter d circumstance. Opportunities are limitless both within and outside d country. We are INDISPENSABLE, and d FG will soon realize that and go on it's knees. I'm aware from some very reliable sources that d FG is already trying to intervene through secret meetings involving Sen David Mark. As for d rest of you "mourning" Dr Adadevoh, keep your condolences to yourself....d NMA doesn't need them....and d Adadevoh family certainly doesn't need them.....bunch of sentimental hypocrites.

Then you can tell some of us,why your fellow doctors are now begging USA to release zmapp.
Since you guys are the only gurus in medicine and are indispensable then I think you people should give vaccines.

lokoloko84: Then you can tell some of us,why your fellow doctors are now begging USA to release zmapp.
Since you guys are the only gurus in medicine and are indispensable then I think you people should give vaccines.

rubbish post! as usual you miss the point.

phantom:

rubbish post! as usual you miss the point.

To you it is rubbish since you lack a good sense of reasoning.
What about the nurse and other individuals who are dead?were they also not important within their own rights.
Why must we use blackmail and politics out of every disaster in this country. Can we build a viable economy and well organized society that way.
I have my own sentiments with regards to the health sector but despite that I have refused to allow decency to be thrown out of the window.

lokoloko84: To you it is rubbish since you lack a good sense of reasoning.
What about the nurse and other individuals who are dead?were they also not important within their own rights.
Why must we use blackmail and politics out of every disaster in this country. Can we build a viable economy and well organized society that way.
I have my own sentiments with regards to the health sector but despite that I have refused to allow decency to be thrown out of the window.

please don't make me laugh.
reread the op ,reread your first post then ask yourself whether your reply was APPROPRIATE to the original post.

Doctors dey suffer for 9ja. Na them even gree stay 4d jungle.
In Australia they pay doctors that are ordinary medical officers abt 4million naira equivalent monthly.
I don't see what any sensible doctor should be doing in Nigeria, a hostile country to them.

@ ifyclose2

You made your points. I agree with some and query some others
My family tree is laden with doctors, and I have lots of friends that are both doctors and other type of health professionals.
Make i join this matter small.

1)
the nigerian soldier whose neck was cut on youtube video was on a salary of 40K
...harzard of a unique kind

2)
When the ebola thing surfaced, some of us expected the strike to be temporarily called off
to adress the ebola challenge
this would have shown the other nigerians that the strike was driven by principles

At least NMA for negotiate with FGN to set up a small insurance pot for doctors and other health officials
just for the duration of the ebola issue
..but no, it looked like a good tool to blackmail the FGN, and unwittingly Nigerians
this is really, really worrying

3)
The good doctor is not being praised for risking her life in treating Patrick Sawyer
No,..she's being praised for being intelligent enough to restrict his movement thereby saving Nigeria
from what would have been a biological catastrophy

You notice that others are not being praised that much. It is not because they are 'lowly' nurses
,..its just that act of intelligence which saved us that is being praised

Now, if the NMA doctors had an emergency meeting and forsook their demands temporartily just for this
they would have been considered heroes too

Op. may God increase ur wisdom and intellect. There are just too much hypocrites in d country. People who lament d bad state of d country n yet demand stipendsto vote every 4 years

Want all doctors dead before appreciating them.what a sick nation!

esere826: @ ifyclose2

You made your points. I agree with some and query some others
My family tree is laden with doctors, and I have lots of friends that are both doctors and other type of health professionals.
Make i join this matter small.

1)
the nigerian soldier whose neck was cut on youtube video was on a salary of 40K
...harzard of a unique kind

2)
When the ebola thing surfaced, some of us expected the strike to be temporarily called off
to adress the ebola challenge
this would have shown the other nigerians that the strike was driven by principles

At least NMA for negotiate with FGN to set up a small insurance pot for doctors and other health officials
just for the duration of the ebola issue
..but no, it looked like a good tool to blackmail the FGN, and unwittingly Nigerians
this is really, really worrying

3)
The good doctor is not being praised for risking her life in treating Patrick Sawyer
No,..she's being praised for being intelligent enough to restrict his movement thereby saving Nigeria
from what would have been a biological catastrophy

You notice that others are not being praised that much. It is not because they are 'lowly' nurses
,..its just that act of intelligence which saved us that is being praised

Now, if the NMA doctors had an emergency meeting and forsook their demands temporartily just for this
they would have been considered heroes too

how do you want doctors to fight Ebola without PPEs?
everybody is insulting the doctors but have you people ever asked whether the govt has done what its supposed to do?
by the way your third point is laughable.
you are not praising her for treating him but restricting him. what is the difference that action does not have anything to do with intelligence. any doctor would have done the same after all what is there to lose after you've been infected?

@ ifyclose2

I never finish yet o

4)
If you tell your spouse that you'll prepare eba for dinner
your spouse expects to see eba, soup and meat

If instead your spouse sees eba, rice, pounded yam, plantain, akamu,
all in the same measure on the table ... na confusion be that
no matter your good intentions you cant say that eba was for dinner

The strike by the NMA is too multi faceted plus money come even join am

Everybody could as well go on strike in Nigeria and say that condition, road, wife husband, light are the issues that should be resolved


.. I neva finish yet

esere please stop. you ain't making sense.

phantom:

how do you want doctors to fight Ebola without PPEs?
everybody is insulting the doctors but have you people ever asked whether the govt has done what its supposed to do?

You're probabably a doctor
and maybe a junior one if you are

Have you noticed that miltary heads do not complain of resources, only the junior men do


Look at this scenario from a Snr management point of view:
NMA calls an emergency meeting with FGN to temporarily suspend strike
they demand instant access to a couple of millions and explain why it is needed
They (not FGN) mobilize the resources into strategizing for PPEs
(not PPE's for everyone, but those on the front line)

They create heat maps of potential areas such as lagos and ensure that special units with all that is needed are spedily set up

Do you honsestly think that all Nigerians will not rally round the doctors to see that this small gesture is not acheived?


And besides, will you say that all Nigerian military men even those at home should have bullet proof vests and armoured cars?

phantom: esere please stop. you ain't making sense.

Mbanu
i wont stop
The OP suggests that all Nigerians are ganging up against doctors

If this is true,
let's try to unearth the reasoning behind this

esere826:

You're probabably a doctor
and maybe a junior one if you are

Have you noticed that miltary heads do not complain of resources, only the junior men do


Look at this scenario from a Snr management point of view:
NMA calls an emergency meeting with FGN to temporarily suspend strike
they demand instant access to a couple of millions and explain why it is needed
They (not FGN) mobilize the resources into strategizing for PPEs
(not PPE's for everyone, but those on the front line)

They create heat maps of potential areas such as lagos and ensure that special units with all that is needed are spedily set up

Do you honsestly think that all Nigerians will not rally round the doctors to see that this small gesture is not acheived?


And besides, will you say that all Nigerian military men even those at home should have bullet proof vests and armoured cars?

please go and sit down. I am not interested in this your epistle/PhD thesis.

where is the president of your country as I type this?

@ ifyclose2

5)

I said that I have always been surrounded by folks from the medical profession
This is how the argument has always gone:

The doctors complain that they spent so much time at university studying
the pharmacists retort that they also spend long time studying and that whereas a doctor can only take one life at a time in error
they (pharmacists) can take the lifes of hundreds at a go in error

Other 'medical' fields feel slighted that they are looked down on by even the most junior of doctors
I mean it this thread, someone made reference to the nurse running away derogratilly
such putting down is typical

No wonder the JOHESU group is anti NMA

phantom:

please go and seat down. I am not interested in this your epistle/PhD thesis.

where is the president of your country as I type this?

Wait naw
u're a gentle and intelligent man
and should be interested in PhD thesis

Would you rather that I dont argue the points
and just say aye or nay

Doctors can go to hell!Are nurses not also at risk as doctors? Doctors are not more at risk than soldiers who are armed with SMG to face terrorist armed with RPG.

Make i conclude go siddon
Jesus tok say if salt looses its saltiness
then its no good and should be thrown away

2015, you can throw out Goodluck, and after that the next president too
but for now,
when we faced an emergency, and doc-o-tor who still receives salary turned their backs for a "noble" reason
then anger will naturally rise up against doc-o-tor

and thats why the salt was thrown away

phantom: please don't make me laugh.
reread the op ,reread your first post then ask yourself whether your reply was APPROPRIATE to the original post.

I am not narrow minded and mentally lazy like you like lots.
I usually try as much as possible to look at the bigger picture in most cases. Unlike you that is panting on this forum irrespective of your deranged and shameless attitude.
You are should think before typing mister.

My friend, that is trash! When you were entering the medical school, was there anything about the hazards of medical practice that was hidden from you. You decided to go to take up the challenges, stop acting as if you just realize that you will deal with infectious diseases after you took your oath. For the records, among those directly involved in managing patients, the Drs are among the least exposed to hazard. In assessing that, look at the parameters used 1. Contact with patients 2. contact with body fluids, 3. contact with chemical or radiation/radioactive/biohazards.
The Drs and Nurses have contact with patients and in some occasions, the body fluid. The medical lab scientists are exposed to patients, body fluids, chemicals and biological hazards. The pharmacists are exposed to patients and pharmaceutical waste (just google the health impact of pharmaceutical wastes), the radiologist/radiographers are exposed to patients and radiation. Looking at this, who do you think should earn more in hazard allowance. And this days, we talk about evidence based policy, can you give us reference/evidence that Drs have more Nosocomial infection than other health professionals, or other occupational health disadvantage more than the others. Or are you driven by your fragile ego that even though the others are more exposed, the have to earn less, because you are the boss. Also, the peasant working as hospital waste management officer, have you talked about them?

And leaving the Medical profession now to others. The soldier has more risk associated to his profession more than Dr, and they are playing great role, in fact they have contributed more to saving lives than some of the Drs. How much are they paid, same with police men, fire fighters etc. The Lawyers, who are exposed to possible attacks by criminal, and gangs, how much is their risk allowance. Even the clergy has the risk attached to theirs. You see, it is time to really evaluate again why you joined medical profession, and save us this your constant cry of "more money or...."

lokoloko84: Then you can tell some of us,why your fellow doctors are now begging USA to release zmapp.
Since you guys are the only gurus in medicine and are indispensable then I think you people should give vaccines.

This post is not meant for frozen brains like u. U can never get it!

....... mentally deranged Nigerians. wholeheartedly defending a government that can't provide guns and bullets for its soldiers.

soldiers are going AWOL! I guess its also the doctors fault.
in case you have forgotten boko haram has retaken gwoza while your soldiers are burning their uniforms and hitching rides.....lol
crazy Nigerians! defending a president who is in Germany for medical attention as I type this,while his hospitals remain shut. the ordinary Nigerians can die for all he cares.
if that is not Jonathan flipping a giant-sized middle finger at all of you,I don't know what is.

you guys really deserve that drunken clown and his cronies.

ifyclose2: bla bla bla.

You forgot one little thing.
Dr Adadevoh did not go on strike. She kept doing her job which society appreciates.
Small girl dey worry you.

Kinfunfun22: Doctors dey suffer for 9ja. Na them even gree stay 4d jungle.
In Australia they pay doctors that are ordinary medical officers abt 4million naira equivalent monthly.
I don't see what any sensible doctor should be doing in Nigeria, a hostile country to them.

And how much do they pay a cleaner in Australia?

Doctor's pay is reflective of the wider econony.

tit:

You forgot one little thing.
Dr Adadevoh did not go on strike. She kept doing her job which society appreciates.
Small girl dey worry you.

she kept doing her job till she died. has it not ended in "eyahh" "pity""so sad""she was brave","you died so that we may live","you are an icon","god bless you sister"

how many of you give a hoot what she earned there?

how many of you have suggested what govt should do for her family?

you are quick to remember she was doing what she was trained for but very slow to review THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH SHE WORKED.

dafuq

9jalyte: My friend, that is trash! When you were entering the medical school, was there anything about the hazards of medical practice that was hidden from you. You decided to go to take up the challenges, stop acting as if you just realize that you will deal with infectious diseases after you took your oath. For the records, among those directly involved in managing patients, the Drs are among the least exposed to hazard. In assessing that, look at the parameters used 1. Contact with patients 2. contact with body fluids, 3. contact with chemical or radiation/radioactive/biohazards.
The Drs and Nurses have contact with patients and in some occasions, the body fluid. The medical lab scientists are exposed to patients, body fluids, chemicals and biological hazards. The pharmacists are exposed to patients and pharmaceutical waste (just google the health impact of pharmaceutical wastes), the radiologist/radiographers are exposed to patients and radiation. Looking at this, who do you think should earn more in hazard allowance. And this days, we talk about evidence based policy, can you give us reference/evidence that Drs have more Nosocomial infection than other health professionals, or other occupational health disadvantage more than the others. Or are you driven by your fragile ego that even though the others are more exposed, the have to earn less, because you are the boss. Also, the peasant working as hospital waste management officer, have you talked about them?

And leaving the Medical profession now to others. The soldier has more risk associated to his profession more than Dr, and they are playing great role, in fact they have contributed more to saving lives than some of the Drs. How much are they paid, same with police men, fire fighters etc. The Lawyers, who are exposed to possible attacks by criminal, and gangs, how much is their risk allowance. Even the clergy has the risk attached to theirs. You see, it is time to really evaluate again why you joined medical profession, and save us this your constant cry of "more money or...."

I'm thinking of hiring a search team to search for the sense in this post....who is comparing d hazard allowances of d various professions? Don't these other professions have UNIONS that can fight for their entitlements? And u talk about pharmacists being exposed 2 patients and pharmaceutical waste!!!....I laugh...it's obvious you have never set foot in a govt hospital in Nigeria....doctors make d MOST-DIRECT contact with sick patients, including physically touching them during examinations. I wonder what risk could possibly be greater than this....if u repeat everything u have just written on Night of a Thousand Laughs, MTN or Etisalat will make you a comedy ambassador.

phantom: ....... mentally deranged Nigerians. wholeheartedly defending a government that can't provide guns and bullets for its soldiers.

soldiers are going AWOL! I guess its also the doctors fault.
in case you have forgotten boko haram has retaken gwoza while your soldiers are burning their uniforms and hitching rides.....lol
crazy Nigerians! defending a president who is in Germany for medical attention as I type this,while his hospitals remain shut. the ordinary Nigerians can die for all he cares.
if that is not Jonathan flipping a giant-sized middle finger at all of you,I don't know what is.

you guys really deserve that drunken clown and his cronies.

Phantom, phantom, phantom
Have you noticed that no one on this thread is supporting the government?
In fact, you'd be appreciated if you go over to germany where GEJ's security is low key and take him out

If you swat a tsetse fly perched on a man's scrotum
you'll have the man to contend with and not the fly

..thats the reason for the mentally deranged nigerians you laugh at
try hard to decompose issues into its various strains

phantom:


she kept doing her job till she died. has it not ended in "eyahh" "pity""so sad""she was brave","you died so that we may live","you are an icon","god bless you sister"

how many of you give a hoot what she earned there?

how many of you have suggested what govt should do for her family?

you are quick to remember she was doing what she was trained for but very slow to review THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH SHE WORKED.

I have suggested what government should do
https://www.nairaland.com/1858891/love-thine-neighbour-thine-self
and i know what i'll do if I ever meet her kids or husband

phantom:


she kept doing her job till she died. has it not ended in "eyahh" "pity""so sad""she was brave","you died so that we may live","you are an icon","god bless you sister"

how many of you give a hoot what she earned there?

how many of you have suggested what govt should do for her family?

you are quick to remember she was doing what she was trained for but very slow to review THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH SHE WORKED.

I thought she worked in a PRIVATE hospital
Am I wrong?

esere826:

Phantom, phantom, phantom
Have you noticed that no one on this thread is supporting the government?
In fact, you'd be appreciated if you go over to germany where GEJ's security is low key and take him out

If you swat a tsetse fly perched on a man's scrotum
you'll have the man to contend with and not the fly

..thats the reason for the mentally deranged nigerians you laugh at
try hard to decompose issues into its various strains

please don't tell me that.
Nigerians support their govt with silence! when you don't ask the right questions or ask for accountability,why won't your leaders continue with the ra.pe?

Nigerians are not just weaklings,but poor,ignorant weaklings.