Hmm, i really dont get what is happening here. We shouldnt judge but we need to be spiritually discerned.
I have looked at TB's ministry and to be candid i am not connected to him at all. i mean, u listen to other annointed men of God and u get connected and u are blessed. But TB? he seem to have his own aura that seems shrouded in an unknown mystery. TB is not worded. TB is not a prayer man. So i see his "demostration" of power as suspicious. He doent have a testimony.
Thats why pst Chris' association calls to question his intergrity. Now Chris is jerry curls. IS it youthful exuberance? I listen to some of his pastors and i hear a lack of substance.

The truth is, in this latter days, many will come in Jesus' name. Doing wonders and appearing to be working for Him.
They will arise because the scripture can not be broken. Its a prophesy that must come to pass. I'd like us to be vigilant and ask God for the spirit of discernment. Jesus is coming soon. Thats why at Faith Tabernacle in Ota, we are deeply rooted in God's word. Jesus is real. I hereby invite u to our Hossana Sunday in the last sunday of this month. God has been faithful to His word and He will surely do more. Remember the Just shall live by Faith. God bless You. Amen

Mr. Apostle 7

You are simply a brainwashed idiot

As uneducated as you are, you should buy the N30 Nigerian law handbook and read before talking or typing trash here. We are not all as stupid and possessed as yourself.

Those two demonic creatures are what the poster says they are, IF you don't like what he says or posts, you should go suck lemons or just stay away from the forum. You freaks can hypnotize folks in your assemblies, not online here. Did I see Nairaland.com or rhapsody.com??

Freak!!

this idiots is chasing oyakhilome everywhere.

@ Everyone
The question u shud be asking that lady was, where was she wen others were hustlin or do u think God is biased blessing some and cursing the others,every man status is as a result of his efforts in life.why would someone classified himself as amongst the less priviledged. You dont go to school and not study and expect to graduate with a first class, if u want a first class u have to work for it. A lot of people have this flawed mindset that CEC memebers worship Pastor Chris instead of God, but i am yet to find any man of God alive in Nigeria today that points his congregation more to Christ than Pastor Chris. A lot of dem CEC memebers adore Pastor Chris cos the MOG makes the word to be very simple and easy and result oriented, lot of CEC members were poor and in debts b4 coming to church but today they are captain of industries all as a result of the word of God thru Pastor Chris that brought about that change.
You said sumtin about sluts in CEC, yes u find a lot of them cos CEC do not conderm u cos u are one but Pastor Chris believes that they wud definitely be changed as they continue to hear the word.
Jesus said the poor will always be with us, but woe betide anyone that allows that prophecy to be fulfilled in his life cos them millionaires today do not have two heads,and were not vomited but came to this world just like every other person. Give a man a fish to eat today he wud come tomorrow to ask for anoda but teach him how to fish he will never come back to u again. A lot of them folks thinks church is magic, and they end up focusing on that man they think can HELP them instead of God.
@
Thief sorry Chief D
Why not tink of sumtin else to do instead of spending ur miserable life after sumone u can never be up to, cos u are definitely a nobody. How did i know that, cos nobody has ever written anything about you, good or bad and nobody ever will.

@maddock
you can say all that trash to someone who hasn't been there before, not me okay!!

Let him who has ears hear:

Mat 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
Mat 7:2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

Take a look at this wonderful passage in the scriptures:

Mat 12:22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw.
Mat 12:23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"
Mat 12:24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, "This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons."
Mat 12:25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
Mat 12:26 "If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?
Mat 12:27 "And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.
Mat 12:28 "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.

These also are the words of Jesus:
Mat 10:24 "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master.
Mat 10:25 "It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!
Mat 10:26 "Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.

The conclusion of the subject:
Mat 12:35 "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
Mat 12:36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
Mat 12:37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

ONCE AGAIN LET HIM WHO HAS EARS HEAR THESE WORDS AND DO AS THE WORD OF GOD SAYS.
GOD BLESS YOU.

wat so eva a man soweth the same shall he reep

so if u judge u'll be judged

period,

i have neva been to any of there churches neither do i know anything going on there but i stand for the truth just have a look at this www.huhuonline.com/news342.html .And whateva u can infer from it it is up to.I know God knows everything.bye

this last week, i went to tb joshua\s church in ikotun egbe for the 1st time.
what is happening there is no jokee. he was prophesying for people in the crowd, telling dem their problem, even some things that happening years ago he was telling them. the man i was sitting next to received a prophecy. tbj told him about his marriage difficulties about how his wife has been going somewhere and he is doubting and maybe wants to end the marriage. he was so shocked. tbj then told him to invite his wife. then there was anoda case of a whole family who had accused the mother of being a witch. the man then asked each of them why they believed she was a witch. they said it was becoz of a dream the father had and so they now carried her to a shrine and it was confirmed she was a witch, since that time she had been pursying them in the dream and there was no progress in the family. tb joshua then declared to everyone dat God said she is not a witch and actually the cause of the family's problems was that the first born had got a charm years back and it was causing setback. the boy confirmed this. wow, either the man is crazy or he is truly hearing from God for him to say something that is different from what all the family and others were saying,
I still want to see more of this ministry before i judge or say more, but one thing, you people that have never set foot there, why not go? or you think you will be bewitched as soon as you enter? thousands of newcomers go every week amd come out the same, if not better,

Save the super story to yourself

@nosa77,you're an idiot.yesterday my dog spoke french,also i saw earthworms playing in a bag of salt. . . .do you think we're all idiots here,u've made 5 posts all on tb joshua or oyakilome thread.go collect money from your pastor and start a forum.afterall,he has a private jet

PST CHRIS Oyakhilome AND T.B JOSHUA ARE SECRET AGENT OF THE DEVIL

Whether you believe it or not, this is not one of those criticisms of men of God going on everywhere. I wish it were but unfortunately it is the truth. I worked with Christ Embassy for some time to the extent I almost became a pastor then I left.

THESE WERE WHAT I FOUND OUT THAT MADE ME LEAVE

[color=#990000]With due respect pastor Chris was called by God but unfortunately he missed it with his quest for power and influence which brought him in contact with T.B Joshua. No doubt Pastor Chris knows the word like I said He was called but he is one of Satan’s prominent agents gathering people to hell.
I am not saying this because of the miracles, the devil can also perform miracles.

PASTOR CHRIS IS OPERATING WITH THE TSUMANEE SPIRIT. This spirit is able to deceive even the elect, i.e. believers. Matthew 24 vs.24. T b Joshua is operating with the jumani spirit. The jumani spirit is stronger and more suspicious and easily decerned than the tsumanee spirit.

This is what the tsumanee spirit does; it is powerful but can only be conquered by the blood of Jesus, the anointing oil and through deliverance. You can play with the name of Jesus but you cannot play with the blood of Jesus.
So PST Chris preaches against the blood as not being very useful now. He also preaches against deliverance and the use of the anointing oil.

He preaches that once you are saved you are good to go to heaven. So take a look at Christ embassy members most of them are still wallowing in sin. The few that are not involved in it stay a while in the church, then they become uncomfortable and leave. Speaking in tongues does not mean you are heaven bound. In case you don’t know there are demonic tongues also.

His church is the most sinful, some of his members cut corners to get money and use that money to sow seeds. Without Holiness you cannot see God. We are all working towards perfection but Pastor Chris is not preaching the whole truth. All this is a cover up.

The CEC members know the secret that is why they are occupying influential position in the church. It would also shock you to know that many Christ Embassy members don’t read their bibles they read rhapsody and speak in tongues.

PASTOR CHRIS DOES NOT ASSOCIATE WITH OTHER CHURCHES HE IS ON HIS OWN TOGETHER WITH T B JOSHUA. He is supposed to be a member of the PFN I.E the Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria. But He distant Himself to prevent interference because of the skeletons in His cup board.

So He started to preach against the name PENTECOSTAL. He is just using psychology but His end is near. Does He know more than Bishop Oyedepo, pastor Ayo, Pastor Adeboye and many pastors in the PFN. He is on His own because of His evil.

No other Pastor mounts Christ Embassy pulpit other than a Christ Embassy member because if that happens the Tsumanee spirit will be exposed.[/color] He is not free because He is not genuine. Flee from Christ Embassy it is actually Satan’s embassy.

This is a candid advice because I was once a member but I ran away when I saw things for my self. The tsumanee spirit is even stronger than the Anti Christ.

In Christ Embassy you are compelled to give, and made to go the extra mile to cut corners or even borrow just to meet up to the standard. Not knowing that we are not all on the same capacity. The bible said a widow gave 2 mites and Jesus said she gave the greatest.

You might think you are getting blessed but you are actually miles away from God if you are living in sin and don’t see any thing wrong in that. The bible said He that doeth righteousness is Righteous.1st John 2 vs.29.

I did not write this to discredit Christianity I can’t do that. But thank God for people like Pastor ADEBOYE, BISHOP OYEDEPO, PASTOR AYO ORITSEJAFOR, PASTOR SAM ADEYEMI, PASTOR PAUL ENENCHE, Arc bishop BENSON IDAHOSA OF BLESSED MEMORY AND COUNTLESS OTHERS.

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Be swift to hear, but be slow to speak!
I would keep watching and observing!
However, the words in red make me feel like uhnn!

Very interesting and sensitive post. All i can say is leave God to judge, but i mos def have my reservations about

the church. Cannot worship there. The most important thing is to seek your God with fear and trembling and ask

for you to be directed in the path of righteousness. Believe in God and not a mere mortal. End of Story.

God will never forgive any man created by him who sees or know the truth and refuse to speak the truth for those who dont know the truth to know and know how to make a uturn to the Almighty God.

David saw Golliath, doing unGodly things to the children of God, he knew the God he was serving that he will never let him down, he spoke the truth, fought for the truth,

Do you know how many people who under this deceit?
The children of God must be freed, because God is going to ask us on the judgement day, "when you saw or knew the truth did you inform those that dont know?

May God guide those that are speaking the truth about any false prophets and expose any false prophet or pastors who are deceiving the children of God, in Jesus name, Amen

Is TBJ a moslem and a christian?

How come this kind of picture with this kind of inscription is in his church?.

Source:

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/tbjoshua.html

This is the picture of Sister Martha from Australia, she is holding the VHS that was sent to her containing footage of her and her daughter when she came to Nigeria for healing at Cinemagoogle (synagogue church)
She was duped by fraud stars because her sickness was still on and she wanted to speak with TBJ, the lady who answered the phone said she was going to link her up with TBJ.

A man spoke to her as TBJ and requested for money that got up to 23australian dollars, she was sent anointing oil, including this Vhs containing footage of her visit to the Cinemagoogle, in 2003.

This is the photo of the Fraud stars,  their faces were blurred, imagine, people that duped 23,000 Australian dollars……………,  till tomorrow

Ok answer my question; and pls don't beat around the bush with that your difficult English.

Did you see that banner or picture yourself or you downloaded it from somewhere?

When you do, then i can talk to you on some things if i deem it necessary.

Secondly, you want to see the faces of those criminals so that you can go ahead and write more stories abi? Why else do you want to see their faces? Why not leave the investigation for EFCC? That is an old video and a popular one at that. They can approach the Prophet and ask questions if they want to.

I watched the video clip myself. The men were for the most part, begging for forgiveness as they lay flat on the floor. And If i know the prophet, he will forgive and save them the trouble of having vipers like you get a hold of their pictures.

You think you can decieve people with that your if I am telling lies, let God punish me talk.

You can swear all you want; Agomo did more than that. When satan takes over a soul, there is no telling what he can do through such a one in order to fulfil

his purpose of casting doubt on God and his power to save.

donnie:

Ok answer my question; and pls don't beat around the bush with that your difficult English.

Did you see that banner or picture yourself or you downloaded it from somewhere?

When you do, then i can talk to you on some things if i deem it necessary.

Secondly, you want to see the faces of those criminals so that you can go ahead and write more stories abi? Why else do you want to see their faces? Why not leave the investigation for EFCC? That is an old video and a popular one at that. They can approach the Prophet and ask questions if they want to.

I watched the video clip myself. The men were for the most part, begging for forgiveness as they lay flat on the floor. And If i know the prophet, he will forgive and save them the trouble of having vipers like you get a hold of their pictures.

You think you can decieve people with that your if I am telling lies, let God punish me talk.

You can swear all you want; Agomo did more than that. When satan takes over a soul, there is no telling what he can do through such a one in order to fulfil

his purpose of casting doubt on God and his power to save.

Can you hear yourself, you want to force me to answer you,
You don’t need to because i am ready to answer any of your questions, but pls. can you do this thread a favor by answering why TBJ gathered more than 500physically challenged people in his church, Instead of speaking the word like peter and Paul did to heal, he gave them Wheel chairs and Money?

What happened to the God of miracle? Did He travel, and he now asked TBJ to give them money and wheel chairs instead, since he was not around?

1. To your question, I presume you can see the source still there.

2. Thank God you called them criminals, remember they said our foreign evangelist, meaning they in the click, or may be they just did this one on their own without informing Chairman (TBJ),and alarm blew?

3. You said the matter is for EFCC, I hope you are not telling me that EFCC office has been moved to Cenimagoogle(synagogue) and the head is TBJ, because I can not imagine people defrauding up to 23thousand Australian dollars from Sister Martha who once came with her daughter to Cenimagoogle(synagogue)year 2003 for prayer, she got back home and found out that the sickness was still there, she wanted to speak to TBJ about the ailment, she was now duped by some of you, and all you have to do was to cover their faces and turn your cenimahouse as the interrogation office.
Beloved you and your Boss must repent and let those you have held captive go free, set the captives free, says the Lord of host.

How I wish you can tell us what happened when more than 500physically challenged people came for healing and they went home with money, brother open up, so that God will forgive you. But I know you will surely avoid this question.

Below are photos of The criminals, like you called them, saying: our foreign evangelist. Abi na me go type that one put again, God will see his children through, in Jesus Name, Amen.

Because i challenge these lies you are trying to sell, you now think i am his member. I feel sorry for you. For your info, i have never been to the church before. He is not my pastor either, but i am a christian who knows the Word enough to discern that you are not working with the right spirit. Who sent you? Tell us. Or are you Agomo? enh?

purefact:


How I wish you can tell us what happened when more than 500physically challenged people came for healing and they went home with money, brother open up, so that God will forgive you. But I know you will surely avoid this question.

My friend dont even go there because you know nothing about God's word or the workings of God's Spirit to even discuss them.

For the sake of those who have painfully been going  through this your sad presentation of facts which we are beginning to understand are all cooked up and directed at a purpose (for which i tell you in the name of Jesus you will fail to achieve on this thread), i will show you what you do not know.

In acts 3:1-8 the bible talks about a man who was lame from his mother's womb and who was laid daily at the gate of the tample called beautiful. Jesus passed through that same gate often while he lived on earth. Why did He not heal the man? enh? why? Was he a fake? However, on this particular day, even though the man expected money from them and not healling, the Spirit had a plan. Peter and John healed the man as the Spirit of the Lord came upon them.

The Holy Spirit is the one in charge of His church. Even Jesus was annointed by the Spirit and had to be led by Him. He leads and we follow. When you are in close communion with the Spirit, you can feel his presence and power and hear his voice. We may not have to explain this to those around all the time. Sometimes, we just act and those who are of the Spirit understand while carnal men run their mouths anyhow.
I can tell you, because i live and  function in that realm.

In John 5:2-9, at Jerusalm by the pool of Bethesda, there lay a great multitude of impotent folk: blind, withered etc waiting for the stiring of the water for an angel came down at a certain season into the pool and stirs the water. The first to get into the pool gets healed. There was a certain man who lay there; he had an infirmity for 38 years. Jesus walks to the man, heals him and walks away. What about the rest of them sick folk? Why didn't Jesus heal them all? Oh it was stage-managed!. . . you will shout if you were there. Those folks that besiege the synagogue each time there is food, clothing, scholarships or money to be given  away get exactly what they came for. I believe that if on any of such occassions, there is a sincere cry for mercy from the God of Isreal, the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Spirit will move and there will be healings and miracles.

You dont understand these things and that is why you err.

In the time of ignorane, God overlooked but now commands all men everywhere to repent!

@purefact,
I have carefuly followed your story from the very begining and I have no doubt in my mind that you know what you are talking about.
The fact that a few misguided bunch think you are lying should never discourage you. They equally called me names when I made open the shameful practices of the Chris Oyakhilome led healing school.
I have not been to the synagogue at any time, but your story and that of many others have a stricking resemblance to my observation and experience at CE.

My prayer for the likes of donnie is: 'may God never let them or their loved ones have conditions that will take them to these charlatans'

@Donnie

These folks can not understand spiritual things. They always apply human reasoning to judge spiritual things. They have made up their minds that these things are fake, hence they always look for stuffs to prove their ill-informed position.

May God help them.

fyneguy:

@Donnie

These folks can not understand spiritual things. They always apply human reasoning to judge spiritual things. They have made up their minds that these things are fake, hence they always look for stuffs to prove their ill-informed position.

May God help them.

No qualms fyneguy, I'll continue to pray for you guys. May you never have any need to go to these charlatans for a miracle.

donnie:

Because i challenge these lies you are trying to sell, you now think i am his member. I feel sorry for you. For your info, i have never been to the church before. He is not my pastor either, but i am a christian who knows the Word enough to discern that you are not working with the right spirit. Who sent you? Tell us. Or are you Agomo? enh?

My friend dont even go there because you know nothing about God's word or the workings of God's Spirit to even discuss them.

For the sake of those who have painfully been going through this your sad presentation of facts which we are beginning to understand are all cooked up and directed at a purpose (for which i tell you in the name of Jesus you will fail to achieve on this thread), i will show you what you do not know.

In acts 3:1-8 the bible talks about a man who was lame from his mother's womb and who was laid daily at the gate of the tample called beautiful. Jesus passed through that same gate often while he lived on earth. Why did He not heal the man? enh? why? Was he a fake? However, on this particular day, even though the man expected money from them and not healling, the Spirit had a plan. Peter and John healed the man as the Spirit of the Lord came upon them.

The Holy Spirit is the one in charge of His church. Even Jesus was annointed by the Spirit and had to be led by Him. He leads and we follow. When you are in close communion with the Spirit, you can feel his presence and power and hear his voice. We may not have to explain this to those around all the time. Sometimes, we just act and those who are of the Spirit understand while carnal men run their mouths anyhow.
I can tell you, because i live and function in that realm.

In John 5:2-9, at Jerusalm by the pool of Bethesda, there lay a great multitude of impotent folk: blind, withered etc waiting for the stiring of the water for an angel came down at a certain season into the pool and stirs the water. The first to get into the pool gets healed. There was a certain man who lay there; he had an infirmity for 38 years. Jesus walks to the man, heals him and walks away. What about the rest of them sick folk? Why didn't Jesus heal them all? Oh it was stage-managed!. . . you will shout if you were there. Those folks that besiege the synagogue each time there is food, clothing, scholarships or money to be given away get exactly what they came for. I believe that if on any of such occassions, there is a sincere cry for mercy from the God of Isreal, the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Spirit will move and there will be healings and miracles.

You dont understand these things and that is why you err.

In the time of ignorane, God overlooked but now commands all men everywhere to repent!

You don’t attend cenimagoogle? pls tell that to the dogs, I know you are a worker, from your statement, WE ARE, who are the we? Is it not all the actors, directors, in the Cenimagoogle?

Imagine you twisting the bible upside down, cant you just quote from the bible, without adding yours?

This is what acts 3:1-8 says:
Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.
and a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;
Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked alms.
And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.
And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.

I hope you know what awaits those who add or subtract from God's word.

There is no where in the Bible where they said Jesus Christ passed this Man (Just like your TBJ invited more than 500physically challenged people and gave them money and wheel chairs, instead of healing),and couldn’t heal him, or he did not cry aloud like people cry at the Cenimagoogle and waited for Peter and John to do the healing for him, just like those physically challenged people may have to wait for the death of TBJ before one of you will heal them, May God forgive you.
Jesus healed all that came his way, the bible did not tell us of any until now that you are adding your own script.

Mathew 9:35
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages , teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. Mathew 9:35.

Please there is no crime if you belong to cinemagoogle. You know people still go to native doctors, but for you and TBJ to be deceiving the children of GOD, is a crime to humanity, I hope you know gurumahraji, he is preaching his own doctrine and still has his followers,
The church of Satan, same thing. So you might call yours a name and those who want to be part will be part, but to use the Holy Book of God, and the word of God, is what all children of God must stand against.

May God, bless those who are speaking the truth and expose those who are bent on using his name to deceive people in Jesus name, Amen.

This uploaded picture is from the three hundred naira compulsory book that my wife bought from Cenimagoogle when she went for prayer line, pls look care fully if the man is a real cripple

@sir John, God almighty will bless you, if not for your story, I would not had posted anything on this forumn, and i would not have discovered this their film show.
I have some photos on exactly the same thing you talked about in CE, the cameramen are being directed by TBJ to where and where he want them to film, Imagine, God bless you sirjohn. And for whether they will have problems and taken to that place, the answer is, they are part of the show. And been paid from the show income, If only you know how much I was contributing for my tithe every week for their show.

@fyneguy
May God help us to speak the truth, and may he expose those who are deceiving his children, In Jesus Name, Amen.

@sir John

well my mother who is a CAC member got healed of Arthritis by watching Pastor Chris on TV. She called me herself. This was several years ago and she doesnt experience it again.

Continue with your self-delusion.

Oh yeah, my Dad too had serious athritis that disappeared after some time; he didn't have to watch Chris for that to happen.
Just thank your God the athritis didn't cripple your mum otherwise Chris would not have done nothing!

so much for a christian. The bible described you in the book of Jude

And paul spent nearly all his ministry time warning christians about folks like you

@Purefact

My dear if u think i will sit down with you and discuss scripture, well think again cos i realized you dont have what it  takes.

I dont need to lie to prove a point. Do you think becsuse you take pleasure in telling lies, others do too?

I dont attend the synagougue. I dont even know what part of Lagos the church is situated in. If you have been on nairaland long enough, you will know where i belong by now.

You are confused when i use the word WE abi? Well leave it alone, when Jesus spoke, he spoke in parables so that the uninitiated will not understand.

It shows you how far away you are from the kingdom.