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OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by MizMyColi(f): 6:32pm On Oct 18, 2014

At least, not in the manner we have been programmed to believe.

Everyone, please read with an open mind.


We keep hearing people say, Jesus will come one day to redeem the world, put an end to suffering, e.t.c.

But look at us, look at ISIS, look everywhere, since time immemorial......there's been suffering.

For one church that opens business today, there are several other kinds of new atrocities being committed, against human life.

The very people we are made to believe Jesus died for, that they might have life.

I created this topic because, I wanted everyone to see the wisdom behind the post I made penultimate this one, and take a cursory look inwards.

What are we doing right, what are we doing wrong?

Is there even a remote possibility that the world as we know it is our responsibility to nurture and preserve?

Have we taken time to consider being THE CHANGE that this world is so desperately in need of?

What if Jesus has already given us the key to make our earth a haven of sorts, what if we've been empowered beyond measure to see change birthed in our world, but chose to pay blind eyes/deaf ears.

What if we are the ones required to clean up this mess we created.

When are we going to realize that every good or bad deed we do has an effect on the universe as a whole?

What if we're the cause of our suffering, and now that we've done more than enough, we expect a quick fix God out there to work a turn water into wine miracle of sorts

What if the world had no religion in it?

What if Jesus came to illuminate a path for us all to travel on and find everlasting peace and happiness

What if religion is the main obstacle to finding that path?

What if, what if, what if.

These are my incoherent submissions and I'd like us to take a cursory look at these things.

What has religion done than build long bridges among/against people.

Even when I claim to have no religion and yet want to interact with people of different beliefs and unbeliefs, some people still shut me out, making me feel I shouldn't be among them, like I'm an alien of sorts.


Why?

Because of my ideals, because I've chosen to find a common ground to relate with everyman. To see every person through the eyes of love.

As far as I'm concerned, our lives are better off without religion of any kind.


Without religion, we'd likely speak one language and message of love for one another, and seek out ways to help make our world better, we'd be more mindful of our interconnectedness.

There'd be no atheist to call the religious man foolish and open-eyed blind.

There'd be no religious man to call the atheist and all other "ists" confused and lost.

The Genie God we're waiting for, the one who'll wave his magic wand and destroy the earth in fire and brimstone before building a new heaven and a new earth may never come (in the manner we've been told to expect).

The kingdom of heaven (if any) is already here with us. How well are we manifesting it?


The onus is on us.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 6:36pm On Oct 18, 2014
You and I.............. No matter what we do.. No matter how hard we try.. Cannot change this world to a better place.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by theunusualmoon(m): 6:41pm On Oct 18, 2014
Nice write up though debatable but most importantly you talked about people ostracizing you because you don't have a religion.......How about we be friends and let's see if you may end up with a religion.Infact, I do believe you already have a religion,you are not just aware of it yet.
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tannie(f): 6:43pm On Oct 18, 2014
Op I read your previous 'OPINION' thread but something deep inside of me won't let me comment. I hope I will overcome that force soon but for nowlipsrsealed
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 6:44pm On Oct 18, 2014
It will soon happen!
Jesus will save the world.
Some evil inhabitants of the world doesn't want it saved.
Legalisation of Evil and immoral acts.....
Time will soon tell.
The skies and the Earth will pass away, but the word of thy Lord God prophesied in the sacred scripture will never pass away until every single bit of it is fulfilled.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by dre11(m): 6:50pm On Oct 18, 2014
No matter how much we try

Man do not have the capacity to save himself talkless of the world

Because the more we keep thinking we are adding value to the world.. .. The more We keep creating another mess in this world


Even when we do show love.. .. Man looks selfish while showing it

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Nobody: 6:50pm On Oct 18, 2014
The truth is 'religion ' actually does more harm than good and I know Jesus never came to give us religion instead he came to give us a sword which is the word of God.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 6:52pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tannie:
Op I read your previous 'OPINION' thread but something deep inside of me won't let me comment. I hope I will overcome that force soon but for nowlipsrsealed
So I wasn't the only victim of the invincible force.
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 6:52pm On Oct 18, 2014
Elantracey:
The truth is 'religion ' actually does more harm than good and I know Jesus never came to give us religion instead he came to give us a sword which is the word of God.
Then, tell me how the word of God will manifest without religion/belief?
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by LoungeCEO(m): 6:52pm On Oct 18, 2014
undecided
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by LoungeCEO(m): 6:53pm On Oct 18, 2014
This is totally uncalled for....u can't change shit live with it
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 6:53pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tallesty1:
So I wasn't the only victim of the invincible force.
As in how? Explain!
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 6:55pm On Oct 18, 2014
Macelliot:

As in how? Explain!
Hahahahaha.


I wanted to comment on the thread but something(an invincible force) pushed me away
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by MizMyColi(f): 6:56pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tallesty1:
You and I.............. No matter what we do.. No matter how hard we try.. Cannot change this world to a better place.

But you, and I, and everyone reading this now and 10 years from now, God keeping NL, can change ourselves, innit?

The things we call impossible will remain impossible to us.

Who in their wildest dreams would have thought Oshodi would be what it is today, who?

Only those who saw it.

They had a vision. It ultimately became their MISSION, a purpose.

What is a VISION

Vision is what you have become as a result of what you are focusing on.

Vision is what you are now by reason of what you are seeing.

To achieve a vision, there are five levels.

You need to SEE
You need to BELIEVE
You need to BECOME
You need to PRACTICE
Finally
You need to MANIFEST.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 6:57pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tallesty1:
Hahahahaha.


I wanted to comment on the thread but something(an invincible force) pushed me away
Maybe u are dreaming!
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tannie(f): 6:57pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tallesty1:
So I wasn't the only victim of the invincible force.

Very strong force.

Some many things I want to say but I can't. I know life is a journey, I believe Op will surely find her path some day.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 6:58pm On Oct 18, 2014
Elantracey:
The truth is 'religion ' actually does more harm than good and I know Jesus never came to give us religion instead he came to give us a sword which is the word of God.
Anything that cloggs one's reasoning is harmful.
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 6:59pm On Oct 18, 2014
Macelliot:

Maybe u are dreaming!
No...


I wasn't
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by MizMyColi(f): 7:00pm On Oct 18, 2014
@Theunusualmoon.

I have a religion, yes.

Just not the conventional kind.

Right now, I have chosen to detach from my professed religion.....

I want to test it and see if it holds water.


Meanwhile, what other religion might this be?
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 7:01pm On Oct 18, 2014
MizMyColi:


But you, and I, and everyone reading this now and 10 years from now, God keeping NL, can change ourselves, innit?

The things we call impossible will remain impossible to us.

Who in their wildest dreams would have thought Oshodi would be what it is today, who?

Only those who saw it.

They had a vision. It ultimately became their MISSION, a purpose.

What is a VISION

Vision is what you have become as a result of what you are focusing on.

Vision is what you are now by reason of what you are seeing.

To achieve a vision, there are five levels.

You need to SEE
You need to BELIEVE
You need to BECOME
You need to PRACTICE
Finally
You need to MANIFEST.

Someone is trying to make me say something.


Maybe I will..


I will mention you when I do..
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 7:03pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tallesty1:
No...


I wasn't
Wait o! Was it physical? Or how did it happened?
When I wanted to comment, I was in a shop to buy something, and I nearly fell but stood upright...
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by MizMyColi(f): 7:04pm On Oct 18, 2014
Tannie:


Very strong force.

Some many things I want to say but I can't. I know life is a journey, I believe Op will surely find her path some day.


Darrling kiss

Thanks.

I have found a path, I did find one.

But I discarded it today

I'm putting it to test, I'm questioning it. I want to know if it's worth it afterall.


When you can, please share your thoughts.

I'll be open minded, as much as I can.
I'll listen.
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 7:05pm On Oct 18, 2014
MizMyColi:
@Theunusualmoon.

I have a religion, yes.

Just not the conventional kind.

Right now, I have chosen to detach from my professed religion.....

I want to test it and see if it holds water.


Meanwhile, what other religion might this be?
I don't understand u.
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tallesty1(m): 7:06pm On Oct 18, 2014
Macelliot:

Wait o! Was it physical? Or how did it happened?
When I wanted to comment, I was in a shop to buy something, and I nearly fell but stood upright...
Hahahahaha

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by YungwizzzyChina: 7:06pm On Oct 18, 2014
MizMyColi:

At least, not in the manner we have been programmed to believe.

Everyone, please read with an open mind.


We keep hearing people say, Jesus will come one day to redeem the world, put an end to suffering, e.t.c.

But look at us, look at ISIS, look everywhere, since time immemorial......there's been suffering.

For one church that opens business today, there are several other kinds of new atrocities being committed, against human life.

The very people we are made to believe Jesus died for, that they might have life.

I created this topic because, I wanted everyone to see the wisdom behind the post I made penultimate this one, and take a cursory look inwards.

What are we doing right, what are we doing wrong?

Is there even a remote possibility that the world as we know it is our responsibility to nurture and preserve?

Have we taken time to consider being THE CHANGE that this world is so desperately in need of?

What if Jesus has already given us the key to make our earth a haven of sorts, what if we've been empowered beyond measure to see change birthed in our world, but chose to pay blind eyes/deaf ears.

What if we are the ones required to clean up this mess we created.

When are we going to realize that every good or bad deed we do has an effect on the universe as a whole?

What if we're the cause of our suffering, and now that we've done more than enough, we expect a quick fix God out there to work a turn water into wine miracle of sorts

What if the world had no religion in it?

What if Jesus came to illuminate a path for us all to travel on and find everlasting peace and happiness

What if religion is the main obstacle to finding that path?

What if, what if, what if.

These are my incoherent submissions and I'd like us to take a cursory look at these things.

What has religion done than build long bridges among/against people.

Even when I claim to have no religion and yet want to interact with people of different beliefs and unbeliefs, some people still shut me out, making me feel I shouldn't be among them, like I'm an alien of sorts.


Why?

Because of my ideals, because I've chosen to find a common ground to relate with everyman. To see every person through the eyes of love.

As far as I'm concerned, our lives are better off without religion of any kind.


Without religion, we'd likely speak one language and message of love for one another, and seek out ways to help make our world better, we'd be more mindful of our interconnectedness.

There'd be no atheist to call the religious man foolish and open-eyed blind.

There'd be no religious man to call the atheist and all other "ists" confused and lost.

The Genie God we're waiting for, the one who'll wave his magic wand and destroy the earth in fire and brimstone before building a new heaven and a new earth may never come (in the manner we've been told to expect).

The kingdom of heaven (if any) is already here with us. How well are we manifesting it?


The onus is on us.
k
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by theunusualmoon(m): 7:11pm On Oct 18, 2014
Right now, I have chosen to detach from my professed religion.....

I want to test it and see if it holds water.
...................
How do you confirm if something you have detached from still "holds water"?

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Tannie(f): 7:15pm On Oct 18, 2014
MizMyColi:



Darrling kiss

Thanks.

I have found a path, I did find one.

But I discarded it today

I'm putting it to test, I'm questioning it. I want to know if it's worth it afterall.


When you can, please share your thoughts.

I'll be open minded, as much as I can.
I'll listen.

Babez I'm happy you found it. Take it easy with yourself.
I once walked this path but with the help of the Holy Spirit, I found my inner self, my inner strength, now I'm good

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by MizMyColi(f): 7:16pm On Oct 18, 2014
theunusualmoon:
Right now, I have chosen to detach from my professed religion.....

I want to test it and see if it holds water.
...................
How do you confirm if something you have detached from still "holds water"?

Okay maybe detach wasn't the appropriate word to use, I'd rather use the term, "holding on loosely to my professed belief"

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by firstolalekan(m): 7:21pm On Oct 18, 2014
#FACT
- ANY DAY YOU DIE IS YOUR END OF THE WORLD
- ANY DAY YOU DIE, JESUS WILL COME
- ANY DAY YOU DIE, THE TRUMPET WILL BLOW
- ANY DAY YOU DIE IS YOUR JUDGEMENT DAY.

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Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by Macelliot(m): 7:22pm On Oct 18, 2014
firstolalekan:
#FACT
- ANY DAY YOU DIE IS YOUR END OF THE WORLD
- ANY DAY YOU DIE, JESUS WILL COME
- ANY DAU YOU DIE, THE TRUMPET WILL BLOW
- ANY DAY YOU DIE IS YOUR JUDGEMENT DAY.
Who is this person?
Is that how ur Quran taught you?
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by firstolalekan(m): 7:25pm On Oct 18, 2014
Macelliot:

Who is this person?
Is that how ur Quran taught you?
What is this one saying?
Do you know my religion?
Re: OPINION: Jesus May Never Save Our World by theunusualmoon(m): 7:26pm On Oct 18, 2014
MizMyColi:


Okay maybe detach wasn't the appropriate word to use, I'd rather use the term, "holding on loosely to my professed belief"
..................................
I don't know you but I respect you because even in this irresoluteness of yours You stil preach christianity unconsciously.The truth is you are not the first to first feel this way and you won't be the last.
Let me just remind you that your post was all about love and also,understanding that helping the next man or woman is a world changing gesture and this I believe........Is the exact message Jesus tried to pass across.
So please don't get confused .You're simply trying to continue from where he stopped which, ofcourse you know, is quite a daunting task.

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