This is always an Organization shrouded in utmost useless secrecy , nobody knows when they recruit except the Cabals & God fathers
Yet, they are as good as useless in this country.
Can somebody tell me how many SSS or DSS we have in the country If they lack manpower, why not employ graduates with good analytical thinking, crisis problem solvers etc, Let them infiltrate the society in Multitudes, Churches, Market squares, gatherings, etc
you might be living with one and secretly monitored but will not know until you are nabbed.

What are their roles, job description or Functions.
We really need to know, not branding Travor-21 and intimidating people.

Israeli Secret security forces(Shin Bet) through intelligence gathering, nipped in the bud a very likely devastating attack that would have occured.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30230189

what is SSS OR DSS Doing, arresting likes of Ogwuche and releasing him later

when will things be done right in this country

smh

Maybe they are our version of CIA or MI6. Funny enough they seem to lack the basic thing called intelligence.

They are nothing but sad disgrace to intelligent organizations and the people of Nigeria. They are nothing but rif rafs, illiterates and rag tag errand clowns..

e be like say this op don fail their exam well well. this write up is from a frustrated fellow, sorry bro. life goes on. LOL!!

TO RAID DATA CENTRES

Zonacom:
Maybe they are our version of CIA or MI6. Funny enough they seem to lack the basic thing called intelligence.

Our version of the CIA and MI6 is the National Intelligence Agency (NIA).

shadowgwalker:
e be like say this op don fail their exam well well. this write up is from a frustrated fellow, sorry bro. life goes on. LOL!!

I will choose to ignore your Stupidity & Naivity since you lack basic reasoning coupled with your breast sucking status.
You seem so daft to know what Intelligence gathering is all about & the modus operandi to foil attacks rather than following politicians.
FYI, i have not even applied for once to that organization in my entire life & am not an applicant ok !!!

Nigerian Security Operatives are trained to discipline peace loving Nigerians and thugs/touts !!

The easiest way to defeat Insurgency/Terrorism is not Intelligenct but Amnesty !!

When you wanna know what our DSS/SSS are good @ .... Just watch them in action when accompanying Politicians or if they get you arrested , Taaa, if go hear am !!!

No Nigerian wan die abeg !!

Nigeria style of security is intimidation of the people.. Security has gone beyond that. That's why my best channel on DSTV is discovery-ID..am always marveled at the ways a crime is solved,coupled with intelligence gathering in nipping some at the buds.

Nigeria,and Africa generally has a long way to go security wise..while the world is moving towards scientific security,pity ours are still in the doldrums of stagnation..

Yomieluv:
Nigeria style of security is intimidation of the people.. Security has gone beyond that. That's why my best channel on DSTV is discovery-ID..am always marveled at the ways a crime is solved,coupled with intelligence gathering in nipping some at the buds.

Nigeria,and Africa generally has a long way to go security wise..while the world is moving towards scientific security,pity ours are still in the doldrums of stagnation..

Thanks for reasoning & watching same channels. How many forensic experts do we have, how many real SSS or DSS do we have in a country whose population is over 150 million., i guess none but people who use bare hands to pick bomb debris.
If the right thing is done, all these Innocent lives wasted wil be curbed.

According to PDP's understanding and marilyn's TOR, DSS job is to frustrate and fight the APC while doing nothing about more important threats such as BH!

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Op bro, u r still asking...were u not around when they packed loads of sss to intimidate the people of osun..... And they recently vandalized APC data center.... Na there works be that ni.....

LordMecuzy:
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Their main function is to harass oppositions. DSS a.k.a Nigerian Official Political Thugs

naptu2:


Our version of the CIA and MI6 is the National Intelligence Agency (NIA).

I think the DMI and NIA should be merged, because they kinda serve the same purpose- external intelligence. The office of DG in the new NIA could rotate between a serving military officer and a civilian.

CFCfan:

I think the DMI and NIA should be merged, because they kinda serve the same purpose- external intelligence. The office of DG in the new NIA could rotate between a serving military officer and a civilian.

The DMI is involved in both internal and external intelligence gathering. Remember that they also spy on the military itself.

naptu2:


The DMI is involved in both internal and external intelligence gathering. Remember that they also spy on the military itself.

The new NIA could also serve that purpose too

I once held them in high esteem cuz we shared same barracks way back in the early nineties they were NSO then I believe. Papa Chinedu always dresses in this Comr Adams style of dressing. I kept asking my dad what he does but he'll never tell. But today! It's all bout Tar 21they got no other reasonablel JD .Brandish the rifle, diet of political office holders our rich oil moguls to be in their convoy and form fine boys(which they are). I remember when a couple of them died in Nasarawa their widows were screening who killed our husbands when service men die daily combating crime and all that. It was then I realized these guys and their families were like Shell staffs who don't know what happens in the country. My take is, collect the IMI Tar from them and give it to the soldiers fighting insurgency.

CFCfan:

The new NIA could also serve that purpose too

The DMI (ie, army intelligence) is a component of the DIA (along with its sister naval and air force agencies) and the DIA is responsible purely for military intelligence. Their operatives are embedded within military units (and even aboard ships in the case of naval intelligence). They also gather intelligence about coup plots, etc. This is not a job for civilians.

The NIA is responsible for external intelligence and counter-intelligence operations. They are usually embedded in the foreign service (in Nigerian embassies and high commissions around the world).


Their roles are very different.

naptu2:


The DMI (ie, army intelligence) is a component of the DIA (along with its sister naval and air force agencies) and the DIA is responsible purely for military intelligence. Their operatives are embedded within military units (and even aboard ships in the case of naval intelligence). They also gather intelligence about coup plots, etc. This is not a job for civilians.

The NIA is responsible for external intelligence and counter-intelligence operations. They are usually embedded in the foreign service (in Nigerian embassies and high commissions around the world).


Their roles are very different.

What role/part do they have to play in Being Proactive in crisis before it Bursts/ happens??

NIA, DMI, DSS, SSS all their duties keep overlapping each order Nigeria doesn't really have a well structured security service

cool318:


What role/part do they have to play in Being Proactive in crisis before it Bursts/ happens??

What role does which specific agency? Anyway, I think I know the question you want to ask, so I'll answer it.

The problem is the Nigerian environment. Believe it or not, the police and the SSS have been aware of the problem of Boko Haram since 2003, but what happens if you arrest a suspect, but you get ordered by your political superiors to release him?

What happens when you arrest a very dangerous person, but the court grants him bail and he goes out to commit more atrocities?

Do you know that Mohammed Yusuf had been arrested long before he unleashed mayhem in 2009?

Have you heard what happened to Aminu Ogwuche yesterday?

Why do you think that policemen chose to kill boko haram suspects in 2009, rather than charging them to court?


How many of the politicians that have been linked to boko haram have actually been prosecuted?

I'm not saying that the security services have been perfect, but you need to understand the political environment in which they operate

cool318:


What role/part do they have to play in Being Proactive in crisis before it Bursts/ happens??

NIA/DMI do play their roles in internal intelligence also but not that pronounced unless it involves airstrikes and mobilizing forces prior to an attack internally. They have no biz with the civil society. Actually they came into existence when the police couldn't counter/detect a military coup. Knew of one Lt. in the NA Int corp that spent months undercover with BH. He was a hero. My anger still lies with the DSS apparatus, from recruitment to discharging of duties they just don't fill the purpose for which they were created. Can' even combat political thuggery or rival cultism in the Uni. Am sorry to be sounding this way but its just the truth. I expect more from them and not just forming body shield round political office holders.

naptu2:

What role does which specific agency? Anyway, I think I know the question you want to ask, so I'll answer it.

The problem is the Nigerian environment. Believe it or not, the police and the SSS have been aware of the problem of Boko Haram since 2003, but what happens if you arrest a suspect, but you get ordered by your political superiors to release him?

What happens when you arrest a very dangerous person, but the court grants him bail and he goes out to commit more atrocities?

Do you know that Mohammed Yusuf had been arrested long before he unleashed mayhem in 2009?

Have you heard what happened to Aminu Ogwuche yesterday?

Why do you think that policemen chose to kill boko haram suspects in 2009, rather than charging them to court?


How many of the politicians that have been linked to boko haram have actually been prosecuted?

I'm not saying that the security services have been perfect, but you need to understand the political environment in which they operate

True talk, but these same guys terminate on lookers and unarmed civilians in the name of raids in 'Black Spots' Soldiers attched to me were almost arrested by SARS because they percieve them t be kidnappers. It is only the criminal witha good godfather escapes but police and the dss. Fact is they don't have good prosecutors to start with. Unlike the Military, Police and DSS are not bound to take direct others from superiors without questioning. So my brother, it is a KPEf siuation especially when you consider the playtime most of these DSS guys have.

pasino26:


True talk, but these same guys terminate on lookers and unarmed civilians in the name of raids in 'Black Spots' Soldiers attched to me were almost arrested by SARS because they percieve them t be kidnappers. It is only the criminal witha good godfather escapes but police and the dss. Fact is they don't have good prosecutors to start with. Unlike the Military, Police and DSS are not bound to take direct others from superiors without questioning. So my brother, it is a KPEf siuation especially when you consider the playtime most of these DSS guys have.

Policemen and DSS operatives that do not do the bidding of their political superiors will simply lose their jobs. What happened to Nuhu Ribadu?

naptu2:


Policemen and DSS operatives that do not do the bidding of their political superiors will simply lose their jobs. What happened to Nuhu Ribadu?

He lost it along he way, lost the loyalty of his entire command. The Tafa case was his biggest score but he overdid things, got power drunk.

pasino26:


He lost it along he way, lost the loyalty of his entire command. The Tafa case was his biggest score but he overdid things, got power drunk.

Was that why he was removed from office, or was he removed from office because he did not do what his political bosses (Yar'Adua, etc) wanted?

Would he have been removed if he had become "power drunk" but was still doing the bidding of his political superiors?

Is he the first policeman to become "power drunk" and "over do" things?

naptu2:

Was that why he was removed from office, or was he removed from office because he did not do what his political bosses (Yar'Adua, etc) wanted?
Would he have been removed if he had become "power drunk" but was still doing the bidding of his political superiors?
Is he the first policeman to become "power drunk" and "over do" things?

Yea right he's not the first. But I expected someone of his calibre to have decorum and to suck up things. Above all to have a 'black box' he kept none. But he proved done good can come out through dedication and honesty. True there're political undertones in recent events but you don't take orders without documentation in the Police or DSS. Get a typical case file and see what I mean.

cool318:

I will choose to ignore your Stupidity & Naivity since you lack basic reasoning coupled with your breast sucking status.
You seem so daft to know what Intelligence gathering is all about & the modus operandi to foil attacks rather than following politicians.
FYI, i have not even applied for once to that organization in my entire life & am not an applicant ok !!!

Wonderful reply.

@Pasino26 & Naptu2, your critical analysis & observation is highly revered. I want to ask if our SSS/DMI dont have the guts to exterminate any Human threat under a covet operation such as being done by Isreali Mossad . I admire those guys a lot cos they take no chances.
Ibelieve if they do this after intense surveillance just as Isreali do, there will be a reduced BOKO HARAM Network. I believe that Secret service personel Infiltration & Tapping info is the key to curbing these menace.

cool318:

I will choose to ignore your Stupidity & Naivity since you lack basic reasoning coupled with your breast sucking status.
You seem so daft to know what Intelligence gathering is all about & the modus operandi to foil attacks rather than following politicians.
FYI, i have not even applied for once to that organization in my entire life & am not an applicant ok !!!

why don't you carry your bitterness to the agency and drop your complaints rather than come online and spit out sh!t like a blind maggot because you think making noise online is better as you hide your ugly identity. Guy, you are worse than what you accuse them of and if you claim to be intelligent then act as one. You are jobless that's why you've made this topic your job.

cool318:

Thanks for reasoning & watching same channels. How many forensic experts do we have, how many real SSS or DSS do we have in a country whose population is over 150 million., i guess none but people who use bare hands to pick bomb debris.
If the right thing is done, all these Innocent lives wasted wil be curbed.

you must be a native doctor to know all these!! how many times have you been to a crime scene?no vex, please answer like an INTELLIGENT boy.