OP,thanks for the info but one thing i noticed is that you explained why most of those assertions you listed are wrong except the one on Human evolution. Can you please tell us how Charles Darwin got it wrong on his postulation?

I always know that the worlds history especially the one whites has monopoly on are always full of fictions rather than unquestionable facts ,for instance mungo park ,aa it was told discovered river niger meanwhile our fore bears has been swimming and irrigating their farms with solvent from river niger .
Most of the facts lecturers present in class instantly disprove them within me but for the sake of passing exams i pour them out like that to secure my grade. The main thing is the truth is already there .

Let me end it this way ,until the lions tell their tale the story of the hunt will always glorify the hunter .

Noneroone:

Geographers call this anomaly an
oblate spheroid, which means that the
earth has a bulge towards the equator. As a
result of this bulge, places close to the
equator are

How are they closer to Outer Space when the atmosphere follows the shape of the Earth? Except you assume the atmosphere is spherical and not also an oblate spheroid.

Noneroone:
40:22 says that “He (God) sits enthroned
above the circle of the earth.” It was only a
handful of scholars in the Middle Ages who
claimed to be representing the whole
Church that believed in a flat Earth.

The Bible also says this :

Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH . (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH , holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH , that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH : (KJV)

Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from any place. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.


The flat Earth is established and can never move?! The Sun hurries back to where it rises?!

The Psalm 104:5 and Ecclesiastes 1:5 verses from the Bible in this section say:

"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.



he Earth has pillars?!

"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"

"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"



The Earth has Edges?!

"that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"

"He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"

"for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens. (From the NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"

"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. (From the NIV Bible, Job 11:9)"


It is quite clear that the above Biblical Verses suggest and claim that the Earth is flat, has Edges, has Four Corners, has Pillars, and has Foundations. No unbiased person would deny the straight forward quotes above. Only the desperate biased Jews and Christians would.


Let us look at what the Verse says:

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 40:22)"

First of all, a circle is not a ball or sphere or an egg-shaped object. A circle is a flat round surface, similar to flat rectangular, or square, or triangular surfaces. So if the Bible claims that the Earth is a circle, then this is still bogus because the earth is obviously not a flat surface.

We have two conditions here:

1- Isaiah 40:22 is claiming that the Earth is a flat circle.

2- Isaiah 40:22 is claiming that the Earth has a circle above it.

If we were to take condition #1, then we are left with a clear and irrefutable contradiction between Isaiah 40:22 and some of the Bible's verses that I mentioned above in the article, because a flat circle doesn't have "four corners", and ironically in either case, we still have a scientifically false claim about the Earth's shape.

IF we were to take condition #2, then it doesn't prove that the Earth is an egg-shaped figure, and Isaiah 40:22 surely becomes irrelevant to this subject.

One thing is for sure clear, and that is Isaiah 40:22 is obviously ambiguous and not clear if we wish to prove from it that the Earth is not flat and is egg-shaped. If we look at what the entire Bible says (as presented above by all the Verses) about the shape of the Earth as the Roman Catholic Church did in the past, then we would reach the same conclusion they reached, and that is: The Earth is Flat!

Certainly, when Christopher Columbus thought that he could reach India by going west in the Atlantic ocean instead of east as it was traditionally done, the Church in Europe was afraid that he will eventually reach the "end of the earth" and the "Edges of the earth" as the Bible clearly says above, and fall off into the space and die.

After he was able to convince the Queen that the adventure was worth the try, Christopher Columbus had survived several assassination attempts while he and his people were sailing in the ocean, because his Christian Church-believing mates were afraid and wanted to go back.

When he finally found America, he thought he reached India. That's why the North American Continent was called "India", and the Native Americans were called "Red Indians".



[size=38pt]THIS CLEARLY PROVES THAT THE BIBLE IS A HOAX AND CHRISTIANITY IS FILLED WITH CONTRADITCTIONS!

CONFUSED CULT![/size]

GozieDiora:
Hey, before we go about shouting, "expository, I've learned something today!", let's bear in mind that a good deal of what the OP stated above are more opinionated than factual. We've always known about these debates but you don't expect our institutions to swiftly start teaching these controversies. I don't know why we derive pleasure from calling ourselves names. The subject of this thread implicitly suggests that Nigeria is way backwards for teaching these stuffs yet most of them are still taught in the Western world. Gone are the days when teachers were the only source of knowledge. Today, we have the Internet and most things are verifiable. Some of us do have American Curriculum for Basic classes and most of these arguable stuffs are not even there. It takes long for researches to find its way into academic schemes, dudes.

Once again, these are someone's opinion. We should mind the way we copy stuffs from the Internet and paste here with misleading captions.

Nice research, though.

u are right. let us not just jump into conclusion.

Noneroone:

The Whites kidnapped Africans and sold
them into slavery : This is not entirely true.
Most slaves that were shipped into the
Americas to work in plantations were
actually captured by their own kinsmen and
sold to the Europeans. When it all began,
the Europeans were the ones doing the
kidnapping. They organized abduction
raids to capture slaves from different
communities. But in no time, they realized
that it was too dangerous a venture for
them since they were not familiar with the
inland terrains. What did they do? They
subsequently found people that will do
their dirty jobs. Then came the local chiefs
and the greedy merchants. They were given
this responsibility in exchange for money
and other privileges. At the height of the
slave trade, this practice became a lucrative
business along Nigeria’s Atlantic coast.

[size=38pt]THe BOLDED IS A LIE![/size]

[size=18pt]Members of the same tribe would NEVER sell their own kinsmen into slavery, unless they were criminals (as in the Long Juju Shrine in Igboland) .

The slaves sold were Always captured from OTHER ethnic groups through war and raids.

There was slavery in Africa before the whites came, but the African concept of slavery was different from the european one.


Slaves would be inducted into the tribal caste system and would join apprenticeships and even rise into higher posititions. There was no concept of whipping, torture and forced conversion of slaves, etc.


Slaves also stood chance of being manumitted or even become KINGS! (E.g., Jaja of Opobo)[/size]

Mcbussy:
Op,nice job....but I'm gonna argue about John Locke's tabula rasa.

Truly,cognitive traits and capabilities are passed from parents to offspring. But what John Locke was saying is dat a child comes to the world with a blank slate (tabula rasa) i.e blank mind...the child's experience in life is written on that slate and therefore is one on the key factors that develop d individuals personality.

If you look at urself. your childhood experience, the kind of environment u grew up in helped shape who you are today. Every individual responds to d world according to his own experience, views and perception.

Definitely, parents can't pass their own life experience to their ofsprings through the genes. If that was the case, every Jew born in present day would naturally hate Germans even without hearing the world war 2 stories. African Americans would still be feeling the pains of their slave ancestors... Lolz

So I think the scientists that related genetics with "tabula rasa" must av had d wrong perception of what John Locke meant. Memory and perception cannot be passed by genes. It is possible to pass cognitive capabilities and patterns.

You foget that there is a difference between traits and experience. What the jew had was an experience and not a trait. The trait passed on by parents typify how a child would respond to an action or event.

Nice job! Quite an eye-opener.


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One of the reason why I dropped Christianity.

How can my god and personal saviour be taken away to Egypt due to persecution by King Herold?

My God should be the Most powerful.

So he couldn't protect his parents? and how do I state that my lord has parents? So much confusion in Christianity.

Someone will come up with a theory that it's the son,what about the father and holy spirit?

Trinity is the greatest scam in human history.

tunshe:
One of the reason why I dropped Christianity.

How can my god and personal saviour be taken away to Egypt due to persecution by King Herold?

My God should be the Most powerful.

So he couldn't protect his parents? and how do I state that my lord has parents? So much confusion in Christianity.

Someone will come up with a theory that it's the son,what about the father and holy spirit?

Trinity is the greatest scam in human history.

You are on the right path. Ifa is the only way.

What sugar does is that it
increases the quantity of calories in the
body. Too many calories in the body lead to
weight gain which significantly increases a
person’s likelihood to develop type 2

I keep learning everyday.

Michael Faraday invented electricity : No-one
actually invented electricity. The form of
energy now known as electricity has been
there since the beginning of the world.
Electricity occurs in nature. A lightning bolt,
for example, releases electricity.

Thomas Edison invented the light
bulb : While it is not clear who invented light
bulbs, they were being used as electric
lights more than 50 years before Thomas
Edison patented his famous invention in
1879. What Edison invented was the
world's first commercially viable
incandescent light bulb.

Humans have only five senses: It turns out
that sight, hearing, touch, smell and taste
are not the only sensory responses human
beings exhibit. Human sensory receptors
can also respond to pain (nociception),
changes in temperature (thermoception),
changes in balance (equilibrioception),
position (proprioception), magnetic
direction (magnetoception) and the
passage of time (chronoception).

Humans evolved from apes: This is a great
lie and misconception that has been here
with us since the day Charles Darwin
published his controversial “On the Origin
of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or
the Preservation of Favoured Races in the
Struggle for Life.” According to this well-
known biological framework, human
beings and the modern-day apes evolved
from a single, now-extinct ancestor. As time
passed by, these ancestors of ours began to
evolve differently based on climatic,
nutritional, geographical and social
changes.

Mount Everest is the highest place on
earth :
Mount Everest is the highest
mountain in the world quite alright, but it’s
not the part of the world that is closest to
outer space. Here how it works: the Earth
does not have a perfectly round structure
like the world globes you’ll find in most
schools. Geographers call this anomaly an
oblate spheroid, which means that the
earth has a bulge towards the equator. As a
result of this bulge, places close to the
equator are “further out” from the centre of the Earth
and are closer to outer space than
countries that lie towards the north and
south poles, such as the Scandinavian
countries, Russia, Canada, the United States
and Greenland. Going by this phenomenon,
the title of the highest spot on Earth
belongs to a mountain in Ecuador that you
may not have heard of. The rather
unspectacular Mount Chimborazo in the
Andes of South America has been identified
as the highest point on earth and its closest
part to outer space. The peak is in reality
1.5 miles “higher up” than Mount Everest
because it sits atop the Earth’s bulge,
though it only measures 20,564 ft from sea
level, while Everest measures 29,029 ft. But
for the sake of clarity, Everest is still the
highest mountain in the world from sea
level, but if two objects are descending
from outer space from the same distance
and at the same pace to the two mountains,
the one coming down to Chimborazo will
land before the one descending to
Everest. Everest is actually the fifth furthest
place from the centre of the Earth;
Huascaran in Peru, Cotopaxi in Ecuador,
Kilimanjaro in Tanzania and Chimborazo are all further.

Information is power and we keep learning everyday till we pass away. Good job poster.

these are the kind of article we want to be seeing on nairaland fp, atleast 60% not genevieve wore gown.

@op, nice one.

born2fuckpussy:
Mobuch I dey read everything wey you dey type for equality section, thank God says; ddem don banned me there with this ID, I know say people like rrockstation no go fit get husband for house, and thunder go fire her where she dey. Me dey vex, halla me if you wan fight man to man for real. U sabbi my PM seh! I go demolish your teeth remain 4

Shut uP, my son and remain dead. Dead men dont talk.

Mungo Park discovered River Niger when people were there before he came. How about 3/2=1.5, but our primary school teachers would have us believe that it's indivisible... No number is indivisible!!

I have seen this thread on fp before

Noneroone:

Humans have only five senses: It turns out
that sight, hearing, touch, smell and taste
are not the only sensory responses human
beings exhibit. Human sensory receptors
can also respond to pain (nociception),
changes in temperature (thermoception),
changes in balance (equilibrioception),
position (proprioception), magnetic
direction (magnetoception) and the
passage of time (chronoception)

When u go deeply into studying all these -ception,u realise they all fall under one sensory or another

PAGAN9JA:

You are on the right path. Ifa is the only way.

Bros, its been a while.

How do you do?

tunshe:
One of the reason why I dropped Christianity.
How can my god and personal saviour be taken away to Egypt due to persecution by King Herold?
My God should be the Most powerful.
So he couldn't protect his parents? and how do I state that my lord has parents? So much confusion in Christianity.
Someone will come up with a theory that it's the son,what about the father and holy spirit?
Trinity is the greatest scam in human history.

Indeed the Trinity lie is the greatest scam

Aside from the trinity scam, the worthless idea that someone, an ignorant at that can be sacrificed on my behalf, without my consent, to atone for some made up "sin" which I had no part in committing and for which I was "condemned" without my side of the story before I was born, is utterly repugnant to me....

How about the confusion the christianity entirely which led to about 41000sects teaching different doctrines? One will wonder weather the bible God is an author of confusion, but if you ask them this particular question they will tell you he is not an author of confusion.... . so many loopholes, so many unanswered questions, so many lies, and so many contradictions.

Good work

"Jesus died for your sins..."

Please dont let his death be in vain...

SIN ! SIN !! SIN !!!...

He'll be glad he died for something!

DesChyko:
1. That 'Yours' Sincerely' is used in informal letters. Oxford dictionary shows otherwise.

2. That Level of Organization in Biology has four stages. It has 'seven' levels.

3. That there are five vowel sounds in English. The vowel sounds are '20+'.

3. We have 24 vowel sounds.
No one taught that there are 5 vowel sounds. We were taught 5 vowel alphabets not sounds.

U like christianity too much!if u won join join but if u no won become leave
them alone

Mcbussy:
Op,nice job....but I'm gonna argue about John Locke's tabula rasa.

Truly,cognitive traits and capabilities are passed from parents to offspring. But what John Locke was saying is dat a child comes to the world with a blank slate (tabula rasa) i.e blank mind...the child's experience in life is written on that slate and therefore is one on the key factors that develop d individuals personality.

If you look at urself. your childhood experience, the kind of environment u grew up in helped shape who you are today. Every individual responds to d world according to his own experience, views and perception.

Definitely, parents can't pass their own life experience to their ofsprings through the genes. If that was the case, every Jew born in present day would naturally hate Germans even without hearing the world war 2 stories. African Americans would still be feeling the pains of their slave ancestors... Lolz

So I think the scientists that related genetics with "tabula rasa" must av had d wrong perception of what John Locke meant. Memory and perception cannot be passed by genes. It is possible to pass cognitive capabilities and patterns.

While I agree with most of your post, I have an issue with you making a categorical statements like "Memory and perception cannot be passed by genes." How can anyone be sure of that? Even the best scientists are still tring to make sense of the world.

You say memories and perceptions cannot be passed on, whereas it is possible to pass on cognitive capabilities and patterns?

Capabilitiies and patterns and other abilities and proclivities, dysfunctions annd diseased that are passed on are still some form of memories aren't they? The brain 'remembers' the habit/pattern/capability, even though it's mostly subconscious, right? To me that's memory. Same thing with perception, if we 'remember' then what is remembered affects how we perceive things (perception) and what we believe and ultimately our behaviour. Also, if memory, perception and beliefs cannot be passed on then what is the essence of heredity? Is it not to help the succeeding generation survive and thrive and learn from their ancestors?

I have no doubt that they are transferable, even though there are still many grey areas in our knowlegde of the process and modalities of what is 'remembered' and what is not.

My 2cents.

Looking at obasanjo's pic, you can't really fault scientists for believing that humans evolved from apes.

Mcbussy:
Op,nice job....but I'm gonna argue about John Locke's tabula rasa.

Truly,cognitive traits and capabilities are passed from parents to offspring. But what John Locke was saying is dat a child comes to the world with a blank slate (tabula rasa) i.e blank mind...the child's experience in life is written on that slate and therefore is one on the key factors that develop d individuals personality.

If you look at urself. your childhood experience, the kind of environment u grew up in helped shape who you are today. Every individual responds to d world according to his own experience, views and perception.

Definitely, parents can't pass their own life experience to their ofsprings through the genes. If that was the case, every Jew born in present day would naturally hate Germans even without hearing the world war 2 stories. African Americans would still be feeling the pains of their slave ancestors... Lolz

So I think the scientists that related genetics with "tabula rasa" must av had d wrong perception of what John Locke meant. Memory and perception cannot be passed by genes. It is possible to pass cognitive capabilities and patterns.

I quiet disagree with you on this. The human mind is not completely tabular raza at birth. There are some innate knowledge for varying individual at birth. Some of it develop to become a talent. For example, when a new born heard a shout, or something fearful, they shout, cry or do something to react to that strange occurence. If you take a new born child away from his or her mother, he or she will show disapprval either by crying or otherwise. That is the knowledge available to them at that instant and there is no experience that cos them to realise something is wrong somewhere.

Rilwayne001:

Bros, its been a while.

How do you do?

I dey oo..just busy with some work.

hw far?

nice

VickyyB:


3. We have 24 vowel sounds.
No one taught that there are 5 vowel sounds. We were taught 5 vowel alphabets not sounds.

Timmytimmy:


There is a world of difference between Alphabets and Speech sounds. No one teaches what you wrote.

I won't say you're wrong.
I always ask this question to any class that I intend to start Speech Work with.
I had stints as a teacher and I discovered this when I assess what we call 'Previous Knowledge' before we teach any subject.
Do the same and document your answers.

They can not be taught in schools until they are generally accepted world wide.
I can call them food for thought.

bollify:


I quiet disagree with you on this. The human mind is not completely tabular raza at birth. There are some innate knowledge for varying individual at birth. Some of it develop to become a talent. For example, when a new born heard a shout, or something fearful, they shout, cry or do something to react to that strange occurence. If you take a new born child away from his or her mother, he or she will show disapprval either by crying or otherwise. That is the knowledge available to them at that instant and there is no experience that cos them to realise something is wrong somewhere.

You are talking about insticts that are locked in the DNA of different species. That is still not what John Locke was talking about.

Infants don't learn to cry, suck on brëasts or objects,they just do because it has been programmed in the DNA of the specie. Those are the basic coping instincts u see in every mammal. I'm sure other animal classes have their own version of inborn instincts too.

Those are instincts and not the experience, memory and perception that the "tabula rasa" theory talks about.

DeeMain:


While I agree with most of your post, I have an issue with you making a categorical statements like "Memory and perception cannot be passed by genes." How can anyone be sure of that? Even the best scientists are still tring to make sense of the world.

You say memories and perceptions cannot be passed on, whereas it is possible to pass on cognitive capabilities and patterns?

Capabilitiies and patterns and other abilities and proclivities, dysfunctions annd diseased that are passed on are still some form of memories aren't they? The brain 'remembers' the habit/pattern/capability, even though it's mostly subconscious, right? To me that's memory. Same thing with perception, if we 'remember' then what is remembered affects how we perceive things (perception) and what we believe and ultimately our behaviour. Also, if memory, perception and beliefs cannot be passed on then what is the essence of heredity? Is it not to help the succeeding generation survive and thrive and learn from their ancestors?

I have no doubt that they are transferable, even though there are still many grey areas in our knowlegde of the process and modalities of what is 'remembered' and what is not.

My 2cents.

Okay,I get ur point...nobody can be too sure,but so far,nobody has ever come out to prove he has his parents memories. No scientific finding has proven it. If there's any,then u can please share d link cos I would love to learn new things.

I have never seen and recognised my parents childhood friends without an introduction from my parents. I have never had flashbacks of events that happened to my parents b4 I was born. I don't know about u,but for me,I didn't inherit my parents memory.

Well,I don't think u can relate cognitive functioning to memory. Its more like a processing power, its more like intelligence,and its quite different from memory.

The exact memory "tabula rasa" is about is the child's own experience. Not the ability to reason very critically or the fast thinking that's usually passed from intelligent parents to their offsprings.

teemanbastos:
[size=32pt]It Only shows that Learning is a continuous process. [/size]

I agree completely....learning never ends!!!

PAGAN9JA:
THIS CLEARLY PROVES THAT THE BIBLE IS A HOAX AND CHRISTIANITY IS FILLED WITH CONTRADITCTIONS!

CONFUSED CULT!

Not surprised sir.

Try harder and try to introduce your own religion as you're condemning other belief.




MODS!!!!!!!!! Here is another (religious but not righteous) guy, trying to derail here!!!! Judge ASAP!

How I wish I was a mod, your ban would be PERMANENTLY PERMANENT.