Yes without the sun ray and energy life would not exist on earth think about it i am talking about life in general including that of trees, flowers ,ants, fishes ,animals,humans,and microbes

And who created the sun Abi it created itself

PastorKun:
And who created the sun Abi it created itself

i execpted this question and now here it is well go saerch the formation of sun or star it is no longer a mystery to a modern man how those celestial being or objects come into existence thanks to astronomy. Thier formation and existence is a perfect example of what we could term self existence

Just here to note this user. We've another fool on board, mods: gerrim.

Jameselias:
i execpted this question and now here it is well go saerch the formation of sun or star it is no longer a mystery to a modern man how those celestial being or objects come into existence thanks to astronomy. Thier formation and existence is a perfect example of what we could term self existence

The onus is on you to prove your self existence myth.

Many animals do not need sunlight to live. Several species of fish were found on such depths as 10 kilometers and lower. These animals live under extreme pressure, in total darkness and without oxygen. Scientists predict that more specimen that never see sunlight will be found on the floors of the oceans within the next five years.
Scientists once thought sunlight, like water, was crucial to sustain life on Earth. But we now know of deep-sea communities of organisms that use chemical energy, rather than energy from sunlight, as the basis for their food. Communities of bacteria that tap the energy in hydrogen sulfide molecules, for example, cluster around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. There, such bacteria are the primary producers that provide key nutrients other organisms depend on.

Craigston:
Just here to note this user. We've another fool on board, mods: gerrim.

why this give ur reason when ur jesus walked the earth(if ever he did)was he not also sustained by the same energy, the sun is the only source of energy that sustians life here on earth think abont it or do u know another source.

Royver:
Many animals do not need sunlight to live. Several species of fish were found on such depths as 10 kilometers and lower. These animals live under extreme pressure, in total darkness and without oxygen. Scientists predict that more specimen that never see sunlight will be found on the floors of the oceans within the next five years.
Scientists once thought sunlight, like water, was crucial to sustain life on Earth. But we now know of deep-sea communities of organisms that use chemical energy, rather than energy from sunlight, as the basis for their food. Communities of bacteria that tap the energy in hydrogen sulfide molecules, for example, cluster around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. There, such bacteria are the primary producers that provide key nutrients other organisms depend on.

it's a liar u only do not see the link brother some how some where there is a link there is a connect check out thier entire chain of food and sustainance u will see how ultimatelly it connects.

Jameselias:
it's a liar u only do not see the link brother some how some where there is a link there is a connect check out thier entire chain of food and sustainance u will see how ultimatelly it connects.

I give up!

PastorKun:


The onus is on you to prove your self existence myth.

it's not a myth given what modern man know through astronomy concerning the formation of a sun in space it best suit the term and can be called self existence

Jameselias:
it's a liar u only do not see the link brother some how some where there is a link there is a connect check out thier entire chain of food and sustainance u will see how ultimatelly it connects.

This makes no sense!

Samiceman:
I give up!

pls don't be annoyed understand thanks for ur information any way i will look into it thanks once more

Jameselias:
pls don't be annoyed understand thanks for ur information any way i will look into it thanks once more

Wow! Am impressed!! Sorry about that too,was trying to mock you. Once again am sorry.






















Thank You.

5minsmadness:


This makes no sense!

to u

5minsmadness:


This makes no sense!

u see! Look at his apologies u ignoramus

Samiceman:
Wow! Am impressed!! Sorry about that too,was trying to mock you. Once again am sorry.Thank You.

pls oo don't be annoyed oo do you mean to tell me that what u wrote earlier wasn't a product of substantiated scientific research it was all in a bid to mock me and discredit my assertion meeen u are a genuis

Jameselias:
why this give ur reason when ur jesus walked the earth(if ever he did)was he not also sustained by the same energy, the sun is the only source of energy that sustians life here on earth think abont it or do u know another source.

That was a poor attempt at proving what you know so little about. I'm all for science and tech, but I know where to draw the line. Go and do your homework before you start confusing yourself. Also learn writing skills: it'll help you better than trying to disprove what you met existing milliards of years before you. Know this, even as your ignorance outgrows your thinking faculty, Jesus remains Lord over you, even if you won't accept Him as your God. You'll one day stand to have your fate determined by the One you try to disprove.
DON'T QUOTE ME AGAIN!

Jameselias:
pls oo don't be annoyed oo do you mean to tell me that what u wrote earlier wasn't a product of substantiated scientific research it was all in a bid to mock me and discredit my assertion meeen u are a genuis

I hope you realise the person you are asking was not the one who talked about the creatures that do not need sunlight...



And you call me the ignoramus

trying to disprove what you met existing milliards of years before you. No iam trying to prove it. Jesus remains Lord over you. now i wasn't happy when i read this iam not a slave like u as to have a lord over me

Royver:
Many animals do not need sunlight to live. Several species of fish were found on such depths as 10 kilometers and lower. These animals live under extreme pressure, in total darkness and without oxygen. Scientists predict that more specimen that never see sunlight will be found on the floors of the oceans within the next five years.
Scientists once thought sunlight, like water, was crucial to sustain life on Earth. But we now know of deep-sea communities of organisms that use chemical energy, rather than energy from sunlight, as the basis for their food. Communities of bacteria that tap the energy in hydrogen sulfide molecules, for example, cluster around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. There, such bacteria are the primary producers that provide key nutrients other organisms depend on.

Without the sun, I'm pretty sure that we couldn't be in orbit. Not as a floating garden anyway. There wouldn't be any hydrothermal vents to live in.

Royver:
Many animals do not need sunlight to live. Several species of fish were found on such depths as 10 kilometers and lower. These animals live under extreme pressure, in total darkness and without OXYGEN. Scientists predict that more specimen that never see sunlight will be found on the floors of the oceans within the next five years.
Scientists once thought sunlight, like water, was crucial to sustain life on Earth. But we now know of deep-sea communities of organisms that use chemical energy, rather than energy from sunlight, as the basis for their food. Communities of bacteria that tap the energy in hydrogen sulfide molecules, for example, cluster around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. There, such bacteria are the primary producers that provide key nutrients other organisms depend on.

living without oxygen

Jameselias:
Yes without the sun ray and energy life would not exist on earth think about it i am talking about life in general including that of trees, flowers ,ants, fishes ,animals,humans,and microbes

all what you wrote are your own idea, I was hopping to read,maby a scientific claimed or something else.

Weah96:


Without the sun, I'm pretty sure that we couldn't be in orbit. Not as a floating garden anyway. There wouldn't be any hydrothermal vents to live in.

But it is not being in orbit that sustains life now is it? else mercury, venus, mars, jupiter etc would have been overpopulated with wildlife. there are millions of planets in orbit around millions of suns and yet not one of them have been able to show a sign of life so far.


the OPs argument is flawed from the beginning. No need to argue it.

Jameselias:
living without oxygen

Yes.
Read up chemosynthesis as oppossed to photosynthesis.
these organisms convert chemical reactions e.g of hydrogen sulphide to pure energy and thrive. other more complex organisms feed off these organisms. other larger creatures feed of them and the chain continues. The Sun is no way involved in the process.

Chemosynthesis have given scientists hope that there could be life below the huge canyons of mars, just not the kind of life we expect.

Royver:

But it is not being in orbit that sustains life now is it? else mercury, venus, mars, jupiter etc would have been overpopulated with wildlife. there are millions of planets in orbit around millions of suns and yet not one of them have been able to show a sign of life so far.


the OPs argument is flawed from the beginning. No need to argue it.

Actually, the sun is responsible for the absence of wildlife on Jupiter and Venus, just like it is responsible for life on our planet.

Royver:
Many animals do not need sunlight to live. Several species of fish were found on such depths as 10 kilometers and lower. These animals live under extreme pressure, in total darkness and without oxygen. Scientists predict that more specimen that never see sunlight will be found on the floors of the oceans within the next five years.
Scientists once thought sunlight, like water, was crucial to sustain life on Earth. But we now know of deep-sea communities of organisms that use chemical energy, rather than energy from sunlight, as the basis for their food. Communities of bacteria that tap the energy in hydrogen sulfide molecules, for example, cluster around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. There, such bacteria are the primary producers that provide key nutrients other organisms depend on.

I do not agree with the op's claim that the universe is self existent, but to say that life can exist on earth without the sun is absolute rubbish.
If not for the sun the earth would have been at a temperature of 2.73k which would make it too cold to for liquid water to exist anywhere on the planet. Even regions of geothermal activities would be rock solid at that temperature.
So while you are right in saying that some niche ecosystem on earth that are not directly dependent on the sun for survival, you are wrong in thinking that their environment will continue to remain the same long after the sun ceases to exist.

Weah96:


Actually, the sun is responsible for the absence of wildlife on Jupiter and Venus, just like it is responsible for life on our planet.

Have you ever heard of extremofiles If not google is your friend.

dorox:


I do not agree with the op's claim that the universe is self existent, but to say that life can exist on earth without the sun is absolute rubbish.
If not for the sun the earth would have been at a temperature of 2.73k which would make it too cold to for liquid water to exist anywhere on the planet. Even regions of geothermal activities would be rock solid at that temperature.
So while you are right in saying that some niche ecosystem on earth that are not directly dependent on the sun for survival, you are wrong in thinking that their environment will continue to remain the same long after the sun ceases to exist.

i didn't say the universe is self existence i said the sun best suit that term

Weah96:


Actually, the sun is responsible for the absence of wildlife on Jupiter and Venus, just like it is responsible for life on our planet.

Interesting.
Care to explain further?

PastorKun:


The onus is on you to prove your self existence myth.

That is very funny. That the sun exists and has been existing for billions of years is the proof of it's self existence.
You, on the hand , who proposes prior creator for the sun, are the one who owes us proof of the entity that supposedly created the sun and stars.

like the previous guy said, the processes of star formation is very common knowledge, right to minute details. You can log into Hubble telescope and view several stars ans galaxies in various stages of formation.

Wake up the times.

Weah96:


Actually, the sun is responsible for the absence of wildlife on Jupiter and Venus, just like it is responsible for life on our planet.

Care to explain?

Royver:
Many animals do not need sunlight to live. Several species of fish were found on such depths as 10 kilometers and lower. These animals live under extreme pressure, in total darkness and without oxygen. Scientists predict that more specimen that never see sunlight will be found on the floors of the oceans within the next five years.
Scientists once thought sunlight, like water, was crucial to sustain life on Earth. But we now know of deep-sea communities of organisms that use chemical energy, rather than energy from sunlight, as the basis for their food. Communities of bacteria that tap the energy in hydrogen sulfide molecules, for example, cluster around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. There, such bacteria are the primary producers that provide key nutrients other organisms depend on.

Direct sunlight is just one of many life giving gifts we get from the sun.
The sun also give us many different forms electromagnetic energy that heat up and maintain the earth's core.
So aside from direct sunlight, heat is necessary for chemical and biological processes in the soil, the waters, and in the atmosphere.

It is simply not conceivable that any lifeforms, no matter how biologically different , can exist without the direct or indirect benefits of the sun.

Our sun's unique configuration of electromagnetic energy gives us our biological and genetic imprint.
A different sun in a different solar system or galaxy would obviously have it's own unique and different biological and DNA from what we have on earth.

So, the op is correct.

Let's all hail the Sun, from whence comes Life.