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Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by dani1luv: 12:13pm On Jan 09, 2009
HELMET is a MUST! If you can't share HELMET then BUY  one

bout that is not a MUSt for sum peeps

HELMET is a MUST! If you can't share HELMET then BUY one

xactly this what sum peeps don't undastand here
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 12:21pm On Jan 09, 2009
olanajim:

I can see a general discordance as to what education mean. What does it mean to be educated?

Socrates said those who are educated are: "those who manage well the circumstances which they encounter day by day; those who can judge situations appropriately as the arise and rarely miss the suitable course of actionthose who hold their pleasures always under control and are not unduly overcome by their misfortunes, bearing up under them bravely and in a manner worthy of our common nature. . . "

with above, when applied to okada situation, it is clear that Okada riders allow their misfortunes (poverty) to overide their common judgement (on safety of lives), therefore they are "certified ignoramuses" therefore they need education to understand that poverty must not be the excuse for risking their lives. Govt need to enlighten them the same way car drivers were enlightened about seat belt.

 So, in essence, you are saying Educating these people is NECESSARY regardless of how you choose to explain their ignorance? Ok

olanajim:

I remember when I was in primary school, the re was a mass campaign against wearing "Agbada" while riding bike. I later find out the some people enjoyed wearing flowing Agbada while driving on the road. There were, I was told, several road mishaps as a result. With some paying with broken limb.
Yes, poverty is the major culprit, but how many people will drink acid if "pure water" were to be sold 50 naira per satchet?
I remember the campaign against wearing Agbada on Okada, and guess what? IT WORKED.  That is what an education campaign can do to a people. Remember the Environmental Sanitation campaigns of the 80’s? How did that go? It worked. People cleaned house on Saturdays without even thinking twice in those days. I mean I remember having a conversation with children who were aware of how life was during those years and many actually thought that the whole environmental sanitation deal was part of our culture. Educating the people is key to improving the country at all levels. Whether we are trying to fight violence or disease, education is key. And the more we invest on educating the people, the more aware they become of the many issues, and what role they have to play in helping tackle these problems.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 12:26pm On Jan 09, 2009
deor03:

HELMET is a MUST! If you can't share HELMET then BUY one,

If you don't want to wear HELMET then look for an alternative mode of transport,

Afterall before 9/11 people could carry more than 100ml of liquid or walk with their shoes while crossing a metal detector before boading a plane. These rather normal behaviours became RED flag because of safety reasons and people all over the world complied.
So what's the big deal.

And what continues to happen at airports across the country to date? People still go with 100ml liquid containers to the airport but the government continues, to date, to do all it can to educate the people on what is allowed and what is not allowed, right? So saying Helmet is a must is not where the buck ought to stop. People need continued education on what the reasons are for such laws and what the benefit is to them and to those around them. It is almost 8 years after 9/11 and you still find signs at airports instructing you on what you cannot take past the gate; on tv, media houses read out what you are not allowed to take and make references to why.  I believe this is why people are not making a big deal out of it. Because they are made to understand the whys of these laws through campaigns geared towards making them a part of the process.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Moves: 1:16pm On Jan 09, 2009
Two Points have been made here are that Helmet is Compulsory and Neccessary, also the Need to educate or inform the public about it need,  The problem here is mainly the Inavailability and Inaffordability of the protective helmet (retailing @N6000) ,  It is a shame that nigerians we fail to see oppurtunities that problems profer, It this case if i was the Chairman or Party Leader of AC in Lagos, what I will do is buy the Helmet in bulk, they can't be more $20 each if buying directly from manufacturer, even cheaper in china, have them customised with my party logo; start giving out to registered okada's two each @ N500, and any memeber of public that wants one pays same amount, my Party get good Publicity, free moving advert; public goodwill problem solved; same goes for the Banks, give it out to their customers with account with them, thus encouraging mostly underbanked okada driver to bank with them; Plus the free Adverts; Same for Telecoms,  hence problem solved, the cost of purchasing this helmet is dwarfed by the benefits to the company.
Also, there are disinfectants specially made for Helmet-- just like the ones made for barber clipper, voila problem solved,

An example is the public smoking den's provided for smokers, nicorete's provides some of this den @ airports, whilst advising their products,
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by SkyBlue1: 2:03pm On Jan 09, 2009
debosky:

The problem here is not education - the Okada men know what they need to do, but in a desperately poor environment, they will do anything necessary to avoid compliance, because to them, it is a matter of additional cost - Helmets cost money!

Poverty makes people drive with faulty brakes, hoping and 'praying' that nothing happens - is it that they don't know brakes can save lives? People will 'manage' as much as possible.

People who are so poor and feckless that they put their lives at risk will not simply change if 'educated' - that is why enforcement is needed. People will try to get away with whatever they can, be it plastic helmets, buckets or calabashes grin

Due to the hard nature of life in Nigeria, we've become very fatalistic - that is not as a result of lack of education, simply staying alive (even barely) is what most people are doing, so risk taking is no big deal. This is why there must be increased effort to monitor, sanction and ensure compliance. Adverts will not make unruly okada men comply, they need a big stick to force the issue.

In agrement, enforcement is the issue and a huge chunk of it seems to be just downright indscipline and unwillingness to comply which seems instilled in the nature of the country's inhabitants. So will the line of "education" also need to be stressed in obeying traffic lights? Will it also need to be stressed to traders who sell on roads and make everywhere into a market while causing huge traffic (like reported in 'former' oshodi) whereby manhours and time are lost and wasted in these unecessary traffics? I will agree somethings need education, but these scenarios to me don't seem to be ignorance at all but just plain indiscipline which can be dealt with by law enforcement.

If the BRT project gets extended and more integrated into the lagos transport system, and the ferry service which is already in operation also gets extended and these services cover a wider area, etc, then i really don't see why okadas or canoe as form of public transport should be in operation anymore. To be honest, they seem a nuissance, cause a lot of accident and ride without abandon. A lot of people have been reported to have been seriously injured as a result of "the okada experience". If okadas are going to be supported as a viable source of transport or as some "Nigerian thing" then the system really needs to be renovated and riders have to pass tests and be in compliance, and the numbers really have to be reduced. From some news articles on lagos last year, Okadas seem to have also become a choice vehicle for armed robbers since it means easy get away by winding through lagos traffic, plus the versatility of the vehicles make "ride and snatch" quite an easy job. Getting the transport system right is integral to a functioning economy and is hence of great importance.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by jaso1(m): 3:43pm On Jan 09, 2009
Guy,
I can understand why some people choosed to remain daft to any development in Lagos. Firstly you need to know who implement the use of helment, sincerely is for you and i advantage, by the time you visit Igbobi i'm sure those who oppose this improvement will definately seep up there mouth. Lagos is only trying to make sure that its citizen abide by the law for God sake! this is urban area not rural try to reflect that dignity in you everywhere you are, been a Logosian is a proud and living here in Lagos is a previlenge to non citizen ok.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by deor03(m): 4:02pm On Jan 09, 2009
Kobojunkie:

And what continues to happen at airports across the country to date? People still go with 100ml liquid containers to the airport but the government continues, to date, to do all it can to educate the people on what is allowed and what is not allowed, right? So saying Helmet is a must is not where the buck ought to stop. People need continued education on what the reasons are for such laws and what the benefit is to them and to those around them. It is almost 8 years after 9/11 and you still find signs at airports instructing you on what you cannot take past the gate; on TV, media houses read out what you are not allowed to take and make references to why. I believe this is why people are not making a big deal out of it. Because they are made to understand the whys of these laws through campaigns geared towards making them a part of the process.

@ kobojunkie,
I am barely 3 months back in Nigeria and I must enlighten you that, FRSC has used all available/affordable media to publicise and sensitize the public about the dangers of not wearing HELMET and the PENALTY attached to this act.
They have a "boring" advert they show in between NTA news. I have even seen advert in the Newspapers and I am sure it must have aired on Radios across the country also.

Almost 80% of Nigerian Adult URBAN population ( Don't quote my statistics please) board OKADA and know the inherent danger in these mode of Transport.

The least a responsible government can do is to sensitize it citizens through campaign and advert and also put APPROPRIATE fine/punishment in place for deterring citizens.

As far as I am concerned, the FRSC has done this; therefore they have every right to enforce this rule
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 4:04pm On Jan 09, 2009
Moves:

Two Points have been made here are that Helmet is Compulsory and Neccessary, also the Need to educate or inform the public about it need,  The problem here is mainly the Inavailability and Inaffordability of the protective helmet (retailing @N6000) ,  It is a shame that nigerians we fail to see oppurtunities that problems profer, It this case if i was the Chairman or Party Leader of AC in Lagos, what I will do is buy the Helmet in bulk, they can't be more $20 each if buying directly from manufacturer, even cheaper in china, have them customised with my party logo; start giving out to registered okada's two each @ N500, and any memeber of public that wants one pays same amount, my Party get good Publicity, free moving advert; public goodwill problem solved; same goes for the Banks, give it out to their customers with account with them, thus encouraging mostly underbanked okada driver to bank with them; Plus the free Adverts; Same for Telecoms,  hence problem solved, the cost of purchasing this helmet is dwarfed by the benefits to the company.
Also, there are disinfectants specially made for Helmet-- just like the ones made for barber clipper, voila problem solved,

An example is the public smoking den's provided for smokers, nicorete's provides some of this den @ airports, whilst advising their products,


As much as I agree that there is the problem of cost and availability, I must add that the ‘educated’ poor would go out of there way to spend money in cases where they know it is in their best interest to. So I am not entirely convinced that cost is the big issue for those who have chosen to wear pumpkin shells and buckets on their heads. I mean, unless the law specifies the tech of the helmets, I would assume they would be overlooked for at least wearing some FORM of helmet their heads while riding. Some of these men have money tucked away to, say pay for their girl friend’s dowry or buy that piece of land they have been eyeing for years. If we push to convince them of the need for a good quality helmet, as against plastic/plant head covering, we might see more and more of them making an effort to change their old ways.

About some chairman taken it upon himself to use this to drum up effort for his cause, I would not put my stock in that at all. We are still talking of Nigeria here where the CHOP-I-CHOP mentality seems the order of the day.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 4:07pm On Jan 09, 2009
deor03:

@ kobojunkie,
I am barely 3 months back in Nigeria and I must enlighten you that, FRSC has used all available/affordable media to publicise and sensitize the public about the dangers of not wearing HELMET and the PENALTY attached to this act.
They have a "boring" advert they show in between NTA news. I have even seen advert in the Newspapers and I am sure it must have aired on Radios across the country also.

Almost 80% of Nigerian Adult URBAN population ( Don't quote my statistics please) board OKADA and know the inherent danger in these mode of Transport.

The least a responsible government can do is to sensitize it citizens through campaign and advert and also put APPROPRIATE fine/punishment in place for deterring citizens.

As far as I am concerned, the FRSC has done this; therefore they have every right to enforce this rule



If you read my posts, no where do I say anything about the government NOT doing it and NO where do I state that it is for a short period either. This is going to have to be continued bombardment from all sides. I was in Lagos only recently myself, and yes I heard a couple of mentions here and there but I would not go as far as to claim the campaign has been on half the level we see here in the west. The government already does this to some level, I am for them increasing the push to educate the public, Simple!
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by NegroNtns(m): 4:26pm On Jan 09, 2009
@Post,

You addressed many issues with your thread but I will respond to just two - transportation, cost.

Transportation - Years ago we had Lagos Municipal Transportation System (LMTS). The service transformed and became Lagos State Transport Service (LSTS). Simultaneously in that period, there were school bus shuttles dedicated for transporting students back and forth between a school district and transit connection points to the city operated routes. A student buys monthly pass that is honored by the city bus.

There were conductors on the city bus and they strapped on meters that issued receipts to riders. The driver and the conductor wore uniforms, neat and smart appearance, the buses were clean and ran on timely schedules.

How did we go from that to today's environment where our children are riding in the back of okada and facing risks that children should not be exposed to?

Monumental cost in terms of human life and manpower. You are right, I want to know the names of their think tank members as well.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Moves: 5:25pm On Jan 09, 2009
Kobojunkie:

As much as I agree that there is the problem of cost and availability, I must add that the ‘educated’ poor would go out of there way to spend money in cases where they know it is in their best interest to. So I am not entirely convinced that cost is the big issue for those who have chosen to wear pumpkin shells and buckets on their heads. I mean, unless the law specifies the tech of the helmets, I would assume they would be overlooked for at least wearing some FORM of helmet their heads while riding. Some of these men have money tucked away to, say pay for their girl friend’s dowry or buy that piece of land they have been eyeing for years. If we push to convince them of the need for a good quality helmet, as against plastic/plant head covering, we might see more and more of them making an effort to change their old ways.

About some chairman taken it upon himself to use this to drum up effort for his cause, I would not put my stock in that at all. We are still talking of Nigeria here where the CHOP-I-CHOP mentality seems the order of the day.

But this is the reason being given in the news; I doubt that these okada riders or their passengers do not see or know the benefit of a helmet; if it is free or cheaply affordable then most people will get one, and there will be no excuse for none compliance
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 5:42pm On Jan 09, 2009
I will try to use a case from our past to better explain my point here @Moves. Back in the late 80’s, AIDS was a big issue in Nigeria. Even on campuses, people knew of AIDS and condoms, but that did not necessarily translate into increased awareness and uses of condoms through out the nation; in fact, the continent. Not until we started getting bombarded and educated on the virus itself; how it can be contracted, and why we should protect ourselves did we see an increase in awareness. In fact, there were campaigns to help break a lot of myths on the disease and what other gibberish out there about AIDS. We are talking of people who believed that having sex with children/virgins would cure them, washing with herbs would cure them. I believe we still have some of those to date. Now, when we continued to counter all the myths and lies out there about issues, and at the same time inundate the people with information on the benefits and consequences of not acting, we experienced an increase in public awareness and ultimately a fall in the number of new cases per year.

Now there are definitely those who will still contract the disease today because they do not want to reason, but that is no reason why we should not focus more strength and effort on educating the general public to try as much as possible to get the majority to see reason. The reason for these efforts is so as to save the public money in the long run. Is it better to spend the money on medicating them after the fact, or on educating them before, an effort which turns out in most all cases, to be cheaper than then former?

In the case of Okada riders, isn’t it cheaper to educate thoroughly educate the public than to have more and more people wear buckets and pumpkins get killed and the state have to spend money cleaning up the mess afterwards? Or wait, is the state not responsible for that?
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by BecomeRich: 5:59pm On Jan 09, 2009
Nobody is saying the lagos govt should not clean the area, but it must be done with human approach. They had option, let station KAI people in the area who would prevent people from selling at that location. Look every government in lagos have tried this same thing, it as not worked.

Why?? Because the government have fail in its duty to provide alternative for the people. Provide alternative and nobody would sell in those area.

Now you have people who have lost thier means of supporting thier family because of inhuman decision taken. this same people have to look for alternative and the alternative may be ARM ROBBERING. And I know alot of igbos do trade area that area. Some of them do not have others means of support, they have families and dont be shock if they start robbing people. Life does not live vacuum.

A govt must always provide alternative for his people. let someone who can provide come in. But i also understand that the cheating that the north have in the census figure. Where the north who are about 30 % of Nigeria population get 70% of Oil revenue. And lagos can not provide for the large population. That why Fashola should come out boldly and support the desire of the Yorubas to join the republic of Benin. With the economy and budget in our hand we would be able to give Fashola enough money to excutive project.The western niger governor have to know, that we need men to be governors and not women. They have to bold men. Who are ready to represent thier people and not party. People voted you and not party. Boni is Yorubas Yar Adua is not Yoruba,, so that why yar adua does not care for the suffering of the Yoruba people. And if Yar adua and his people does not care for Yorubas why should the yorubas support them. It does not make any business sense. look, People should not be scared of war. they can not win. I am saying this with 100% confident. Eni ta bo. They should take us to the world court, we have prove.

And fashola and other governors in the western niger have to support this movement. You would be getting at least 3 times what you are getting , lagos or any of the state would be getting 3 times allocation. Yorubas would say, if you are been burn by fire, you take care of yourself before you take care of others.

Now what are the alternative to Ishodi.

Here is my solution to oshodi problem. The first question you ask yourself, why do people come to Oshodi. The answer lies in satellite pictures, Oshodi is the centre to everywhere in Mega lagos.

The solution is to relocated the resident houses and build a very extreme large market. But while you take over people comes. build alternative houses in Ikorodu and give them to the onwer of the houses with one year notification. Do not give them money. they would marry new wife with it. (joke)


If you increase the market land space to about 3 to 5 times its size, you would solve the problem. And also include a very big open field, while with stores backing the road. No store should face the road. Locate the parking far from the site. and create a bypass for the expressway.

Lagos most have a office abroad looking for investment. Investment do no come to nation , cities seek for investment.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by mustafar1: 6:06pm On Jan 09, 2009
wat has benin got to do with enforcing a helmet rule? i tire for this ur argument o.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by stag: 6:26pm On Jan 09, 2009
in my opinion, okada should be banned from express roads and all major roads in the metropolis.it should be within residential areas, from busstops to peoples' streets.the effect of banning okada will be too much because crime rate will increase.majority of the okada men do not have any other means of livelihood, its a way for relief families of severe hunger.it happened in abuja when they banned okada riders, crime rate increased. these people need orientation on the hazards of riding dangerously through their various union, helmet does not stop them from their reckless ways.i am strongly against total ban on okada,its a means of transport.the gov should not just pluck off leaves in attempt to kill a tree.the root causes of their reckless habit should be tackled.

for those who are humble enough to be on okada, they should be humble enough to put helmets on.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by bronxdog: 11:35pm On Jan 09, 2009
Who says an okada man is a poor man? You guys must be kidding, try and define for me who a poor man is and you will gladly expunge every okada man, its like saying every taxi man in Lagos is a poor man just because he rides a taxi? Please.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 1:39am On Jan 10, 2009
umm ikorodu no be dump ground. we have our own problems to deal with so keep them there in oshodi with you. lol
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Pepeye(f): 9:52am On Jan 10, 2009
Helmet is a must. Its mandatory for every okada man/ passenger .

There must be a proper or rigid code of conduct as the case maybe

to ensure our safety
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jan 10, 2009
@POSTER

Unnecessary rants.
If you don't like the helmet policy, buy your own. Better yet, don't ride the okada. You'll be doing IGBOBI Hospital a huge favour.
Who said Okada's can't be banned. What negative effects. I say Ban the useless thing.
They should be restricted to local streets that Buses have no access to.
Nigerians should learn to walk. Take a bus and learn to walk from the Bus stop to your destination. If you can't walk, get a F!UCKING taxi.
We did it before the Okada's came and we can/will do it when the time comes.

With regards to the excuse that okada provides a faster way through traffic to work, abegiiii.
If you know how bad traffic is then wake up one hr earlier. Damn
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by olanajim(m): 8:50pm On Jan 10, 2009
Hey guys, enough of all these Helmet prevent acidents slogan. I think we are missing a point. The most important point to say.

I have seen dozen cases of okada acidents, I have witness alot of them just as I have personally been a victim years ago (though unhurt). Like everyone, I have read hundred of report of okada acidents in papers etc.

But in all these, I can tell you that I have not seen anyone suffered a broken skull so far. We heard of broken limbs, arms, etc but not broken head. I am not saying it doesn't happen, it is rare! At least in my area.

Now, if the govt enforce helmet to protect the skull which is understandably too delicate, can anyone tell me how Crash Helmet would reduce the incidence of broken limbs, arms and violation of road traffic rules? There lies our error.

My submision is that even if wearing of crash Helmet is strictly obeyed, it won't reduce okada acidents or stop armed robbers for using okada to rob! It is like wearing dark goggle to protect oneself from tear gas. Can it work?

The way out? Now I will let you trash that out. Thank you!
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by bronxdog: 10:44pm On Jan 10, 2009
@Olanajim

Okay - a bomb hasnt yet exploded on an aeroplane mid air, so, bombs should be allowed on airplanes is it?
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by JJYOU: 10:58pm On Jan 10, 2009
bronx_dog:

@Olanajim

Okay - a bomb hasnt yet exploded on an aeroplane mid air, so, bombs should be allowed on airplanes is it?
good question. helmet saved my brother in the early 80's i dont know why naija peeps think thier lives are not worth a common helmet. all these oyinbo grammar tire me. how much is an helmet self
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by olanajim(m): 11:04pm On Jan 10, 2009
Bronx dog,
using your own analogy. A bomb that had not been detonated and a mad passenger shooting while the plane is in the air. Which will you accord your priority?

Or let put it this way, a bomb that had not been detonated or the crazy guy who want to detonate it. Which do you think need urgent attention?
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by BOSS7: 11:35pm On Jan 10, 2009
JJYOU:

good question. helmet saved my brother in the early 80's i don't know why naija peeps think their lives are not worth a common helmet. all these oyinbo grammar tire me. how much is an helmet self
Your brother must have been one of the pioneers of Okada riders then, I thought Okada was introduced in the 90s, well I might be wrong though.

cheesy

Back to the topic,I believe we shouldn't risk any form of accident and we should always take safety as a priority regardless of what we do, In that case,I'll jump on the bandwagon of helmet supporters, better to have a helmet worn in time of need than not have one strapped on the chin in time of need.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by olanajim(m): 11:51pm On Jan 10, 2009
Helmet is good. At least everyone have supported it. But, helmet cannot solve the problem of broken limbs, violation of road traffic rules, reckless driving and armed robbery.

And these are the problem people have been mentioning so far. They are also what the govt keep talking about.

Even with free helmets for all, the problems will linger until they are addressed.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Nobody: 11:58pm On Jan 10, 2009
My submision is that even if wearing of crash Helmet is strictly obeyed, it won't reduce okada acidents or stop armed robbers for using okada to rob! It is like wearing dark goggle to protect oneself from tear gas. Can it work?

I don't think anyone is insinuating it would reduce okada accidents. Wearing a crash helmet is for the individual's safety, simple and short. It could as well prevent a high number of casualties in an accident. It being rare in your area does not mean we shouldn't take on preventive measures. As far as I'm concerned, helmets should be a priority. Is that too much to ask of Nigerians?
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by olanajim(m): 1:10am On Jan 11, 2009
@stilwater,
it is not too much. You know. As a Nigerian, I am very much aware of how things work here.

My point is, if government is serious about reducing acidents caused by okada, then it must tackle the problem headlong. What is going on is, as far as I am concerned, cosmetic approach.

There should be enforcement in all aspect (obeying traffic rules, limiting speed, checking the mental state of the okada riders, effective traffic control, providing viable alternative to okada etc ) and not just helmet wearing alone. It is after that that I can take them serious. . .
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Jakumo(m): 3:07am On Jan 11, 2009
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Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Nobody: 4:26am On Jan 11, 2009
na by force to live in Lagos? pack go village abeg!! una don turn Lagos to slum. E be like say you go begin need visa to enter Lagos soon. Because people with no plans, no ambition at all just de move come hoping to start singing in Alaba market. Abeg carry your yansh go back village.

Lagos need to be man handled. I was told there was a time when certain plate numbers are not allowed to drive on certain days in Lagos just to control the traffic. Now that's what we need again.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 4:31am On Jan 11, 2009
9jaganja:

na by force to live in Lagos? pack go village abeg!! una don turn Lagos to slum. E be like say you go begin need visa to enter Lagos soon. Because people with no plans, no ambition at all just de move come hoping to start singing in Alaba market. Abeg carry your yansh go back village.
Lagos need to be man handled. I was told there was a time when certain plate numbers are not allowed to drive on certain days in Lagos just to control the traffic. Now that's what we need again.

When was Lagos never a slum? Have you ever been to lagos before? When did the people you refer to arrive in Lagos? I am guessing long before you did cause as far back as I can remeber, Lagos has been a slum since after idiaghon was removed from office, so I don't understand how anyone can come on here to make it seem as if all that is new. lol
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Nobody: 5:05am On Jan 11, 2009
Kobojunkie:

When was Lagos never a slum? Have you ever been to lagos before? When did the people you refer to arrive in Lagos? I am guessing long before you did cause as far back as I can remeber, Lagos has been a slum since after idiaghon was removed from office, so I don't understand how anyone can come on here to make it seem as if all that is new. lol

Eko oni baje.
I'm a Lagos native. And If anything happens to my dad today, Eyo masquerade will come out (if you know what I mean). Our family houses are still all over Lagos not sold yet cause we are not broke yet.  The problem with Lagos is over population simple! It's been so for long because migration to Lagos started way back when Lagos was a colony which was before the stupid Lord Luggards' Amalgamation of southern and northern protectorate.

I lived all over naija, from PH to Abuja depending on where I hear there are fine girls without bigotry and religious mofos. cheesy.
Re: Help! Lagosians Are In Trouble. by Kobojunkie: 5:07am On Jan 11, 2009
9jaganja:

Eko oni baje.
I'm a Lagos native. And If anything happens to my dad today, Eyo masquerade will come out (if you know what I mean). Our family houses are still all over Lagos not sold yet cause we are not broke yet. The problem with Lagos is over population simple! It's been so for long because migration to Lagos started way back when Lagos was a colony which was before the stupid Lord Luggards' Amalgamation of southern and northern protectorate.

I lived all over naija, from PH to Abuja depending on where I hear there are fine girls without bigotry and religious mofos. cheesy.

Oh boy!!! What is the name of your family since you claim to be a native.

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