thorpido:
Which John do you think wrote the book of John and which one do you think that book of Jon speaks about?
That scripture was referring to John the baptist and it was written by John, a disciple of Jesus.

"Although ancient traditions attributed to the Apostle John the Fourth Gospel, the Book of Revelation, and the three Epistles of John, modern scholars believe that he wrote none of them." - Harris, Stephen L. , Understanding the Bible (Palo Alto Mayfield, 1985) p. 355

Rilwayne001:


"Although ancient traditions attributed to the Apostle John the Fourth Gospel, the Book of Revelation, and the three Epistles of John, modern scholars believe that he wrote none of them." - Harris, Stephen L. , Understanding the Bible (Palo Alto Mayfield, 1985) p. 355

Lol. Those guys know nothing about the history of their books. They believe everything on the cover page.

Rilwayne001:


"Although ancient traditions attributed to the Apostle John the Fourth Gospel, the Book of Revelation, and the three Epistles of John, [b]modern scholars believe that he wrote none of them." [/b] - Harris, Stephen L. , Understanding the Bible (Palo Alto Mayfield, 1985) p. 355

Listen to yourself.Modern scholars indeed.Modern scholars are the ones in the best position to tell things their forefathers were not there to witness and again Stephen Harris you quoted was one of the disciples right?He was the one with the original message and a witness to Jesus' ministry right?

Pr0ton:


Same as God was here on the earth as man and functioned as man yet He had a divine origin. So the same person was here and also at the same time in heaven. The same person knelt and prayed to himself. The same person died to satisfy his own wrath.And that makes a lot of sense

In your atheistic mind you can never rationalise God!

thorpido:
In your atheistic mind you can never rationalise God!

You can, only in delusional weak minds.

Pr0ton:


You can, only in delusional weak minds.

Like yours right?

thorpido:
You didn't understand Jesus' response.He called Himself God and they wanted to stone Him for calling Himself God.He then quoted their scriptures(the prophets)to convict them.If you go further to verse 36,He said God set Him apart and called Himself the Son of God.

Do you think If he called him self A God or son of God or Messaih
Do you think they will accept him

Man Messaih came before Jesus and His Mom even born
His name Is Zorobabel The Moshiah the Prince of Judah the Govner the One who gather children of isreal from Exile The One who build the Temple

The true Moshiah the signet of Yehweh God of Isreal
that the secret that you don't hear it in Jesus Tamples called churchs

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LightIndarkness:


Do you think If he called him self A God or son of God or Messaih
Do you think they will accept him

Man Messaih came before Jesus and His Mom even born
His name Is Zorobabel The Moshiah the Prince of Judah the Govner the One who gather children of isreal from Exile The One who build the Temple

The true Moshiah the signet of Yehweh God of Isreal
that the secret that you don't hear it in Jesus Tamples called churchs

confused much

thorpido:
confused much

I know and I will made it clear the Messaih son of david the real messaih were born before Jesus your messiah

He is name is Zorobabel and Yahweh the god of Isreal choose him to be the messaih

Read

Haggai 2:21 22 23

Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and earth And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts.

So don't get confuse Yehweh the God make it clear that Zorobabel Son Of David coming from the root of the Kings
the one who build the last tample -Zorobabel Temple-
The one who gather Children of Isreal the Prince of Judah the Servent of Yehweh the One who will set in the David throne in last days The one who will set in the right side of Yehweh

The true enemy of Jesus your God

In church they will not tell you this facts

1-the messianic prophecies in OT is related to Zorobabel Moshiah the Jewish messaih

2- Your faith is depend on NT who support Jesus Christ
That's why in your deep heart don't like OT

3- Church depends in the Faith that don't depends on the Holy bible

4- Compare between Zorobabel and Jesus and see messianic propheceis and you will be shock

5- what ever they want to hide the truth in Jesus temples
Called church the truth remains

YEHWEH choose ZOROBABEL as his MESSAIH

thorpido:
Listen to yourself.Modern scholars indeed.Modern scholars are the ones in the best position to tell things their forefathers were not there to witness and again Stephen Harris you quoted was one of the disciples right?He was the one with the original message and a witness to Jesus' ministry right?

don't mind the guy, he believe in what the modern scholar say but does not believe in what the forfather's say. Nice reply.

Rilwayne001:


Just wondering the dude that wrote this book. Christians alleged that it was john. but in the verse 6,7/8 of this particular chapter it reads: There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John..... He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light

Could john have written the bolded as well?

silly, this verse was talking about john the baptist, he did not write any book.

Pr0ton:


If God possessed Jesus, i.e, He was in Jesus, who was God (in Jesus) calling His Father in heaven when He (God in Jesus) was on the cross?

1. Jesus has two natures -- He is God
and man.
2. Each nature is full and complete
He is fully God and fully man.
3. Each nature remains distinct.
4. Christ is only one Person.
There was a never a time when He became God, for God is eternal. But Jesus has not always been man.

Pr0ton:


Jesus Is Not God:

‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’(Matthew 26:39)

Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’(Luke 18:19)

‘he continued all night in prayer to God.’(Luke 6:12)

Jesus Is God:

Matthew 1:23- “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

John 14:9-11- Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

Jesus speak as a man here.anytime Jesus debate the teacher of the law,that were he always make claimed attributed to God alone.

But when Jesus speak with people that ask him sincere question and not a test, He speak to them as a man. There was a reason for All this, I will not tell you, go and study the bible.

The op asked :Did jesus say "I am god "

My answer: jesus never said " I am God"

My questions : 1.what is a God and who can we call "a God".

2. Are there many (more than one )God and why do they Call themselves or have the title or position to be called God ?