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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 7:52pm On Jul 28, 2015
@jagoon For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(son), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.(1john 5:7 king james bible), what can we deduce from this verse? 1. They are 3 people patnering in heaven 2. They keep record in heaven about their creations 3. Jesus is the word(son) . What does all these spell to? TRINITY my dunce friend, hey! did you say you dont believe in trinity? you are failure to your faith, trinity is in your bible and you dont even know it, you should be ashamed of yourself my dunce friend wink
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(m): 8:08pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
go back to ss2 and ask your english teacher.

Trash!

What has this got to do with English? It shows how intelligent you are. Smh!

Your English is the worst on this forum. I can teach your English teacher if that was what he/she taught you.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(m): 8:13pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@jagoon For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(son), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.(1john 5:7 king james bible), what can we deduce from this verse? 1. They are 3 people patnering in heaven 2. They keep record in heaven about their creations 3. Jesus is the word(son) . What does all these spell to? TRINITY my dunce friend, hey! did you say you dont believe in trinity? you are failure to your faith, trinity is in your bible and you dont even know it, you should be ashamed of yourself my dunce friend wink

There are three that bear record in al-jannah: allah, Gabriel and Muhammad, hence the use of the word 'WE'.

The al-jannah where you have 72 virgins waiting for you is not the heaven of the true God.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:18pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Trash!

What has this got to do with English? It shows how intelligent you are. Smh!

Your English is the worst on this forum. I can teach your English teacher if that was what he/she taught you.
if you can teach english as you claim old fool, how come you havent heard of royal we in english??
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(m): 8:21pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
if you can teach english as you claim old fool, how come you havent heard of royal we in english??

Tell us where any King addressed himself/herself as 'WE'.

If men use royal 'WE', was allah a human king copying English people?
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


There are three that bear record in al-jannah: allah, Gabriel and Muhammad, hence the use of the word 'WE'.

The al-jannah where you have 72 virgins waiting for you is not the heaven of the true God.
subhanallah, you need to go back to ss2 also cuz it seems you havent heard of royal we, how come i've got many dunce here?? hey dont divert, you asked for a verse, i gave you, then you are thinking of a way to divert? how deceptful, you should be ashamed of yourself, christianity is a baseless religion .Thats my conclusion
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:28pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Tell us where any King addressed himself/herself as 'WE'.
you want example? lol, your king of kings in the bible referred to himself as WE! so whats your point?? i am inviting you to the fellowship of islam, cuz christianity has baseless roots!!
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(m): 8:36pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
subhanallah, you need to go back to ss2 also cuz it seems you havent heard of royal we, how come i've got many dunce here?? hey dont divert, you asked for a verse, i gave you, then you are thinking of a way to divert? how deceptful, you should be ashamed of yourself, christianity is a baseless religion .Thats my conclusion

Leave the stage my friend, you are the least intelligent muslim on this forum.

It is you who said 'FIGHT' does not mean 'KILL' and when I showed you Quran 8:12 where allah commanded muslims to STRIKE OFF people's HEADS and FINGERS, you said the quran was EDITED. Blind islamic defender.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Tell us where any King addressed himself/herself as 'WE'.
you want example? lol, your king of kings in the bible referred to himself as WE! so whats your point?? i am inviting you to the fellowship of islam, cuz christianity has baseless roots!! did you say copy? english is not the only language that has that style! greek, chinese, arabic etc also has that style. he was talking to the arabs so to emphasize majesty Allah used WE! i can see how desperate you are, try harder wink
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Leave the stage my friend, you are the least intelligent muslim on this forum.

It is you who said 'FIGHT' does not mean 'KILL' and when I showed you Quran 8:12 where allah commanded muslims to STRIKE OFF people's HEADS and FINGERS, you said the quran was EDITED. Blind islamic defender.
old man why are you this foolish?? trying to use tactics of adhominem? try harder, dont beg me to leave the stage, BTW whats the meaning of this mystery TRINITY?.

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:45pm On Jul 28, 2015
@truthman2012 oldman i've got an idea, go and visit the rehab wink

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by x123xlolls(m): 8:46pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@parisbookaddict @jagoon @truthman2012 @dmz1 @true2god can you answer any of these questions on the following site? please tell me the one you can answer, if not agree that your religion is baseless. Thank you! www.answering-christianity.com/60_questions_to_christians.htm
Bro you done make them run away... hahaha.. no answer to your request

#ISlam@d-TOP
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by x123xlolls(m): 8:50pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Tell us where any King addressed himself/herself as 'WE'.

If men use royal 'WE', was allah a human king copying English people?
Who told you its revealed in english? who told you english does'nt copy it from the ever lasting language, arabic? how old is english as compaired to arabic?

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jul 28, 2015
x123xlolls:
Bro you done make them run away... hahaha.. no answer to your request

#ISlam@d-TOP
lol, they know inside them that their religion is baseless but because of hate and arrogance, they dont want to come to the right path. i kept mute at first, but when i saw their lies, i had to refute it.

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jul 28, 2015
@truthman2012 do you know you are a confused oldman? because of desperacy you cant spell "from" again. well thank God you know it wasnt "revealed"(notice the quotes) in english, arabic and hebrew are similar, in arabic we say salamualaikum in hebrew it is shalomalikhim, Allah is elloh and so on, therefore its the same style wink, but wait a minute, werent you the one that said Allah copied english?, that was why i used that to refute your claim.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(m): 9:02pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
old man why are you this foolish?? trying to use tactics of adhominem? try harder, dont beg me to leave the stage, BTW whats the meaning of this mystery TRINITY?.

You guys lack intelligence. If you are a young man reasoning this way, by the time you are old, there will be nothing more remaining in your head.

Old age is a virtue and not a vice, but because you guys reason upside down, you think it is a vice. It is the grace of God to grow old as none of is sure of getting old. Is your father a young boy? Smh!
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


You guys lack intelligence. If you are a young man reasoning this way, by the time you are old, there will be nothing more remaining in your head.

Old age is a virtue and not a vice, but because you guys reason upside down, you think it is a vice. It is the grace of God to grow old as none of is sure of getting old. Is your father a young boy? Smh!
lol the oldman is out of points, and he is trying to say poo! grin grin, go and take care of your grandchildren! tell them you met me! wink

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by truthman2012(m): 9:11pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Leave the stage my friend, you are the least intelligent muslim on this forum.

It is you who said 'FIGHT' does not mean 'KILL' and when I showed you Quran 8:12 where allah commanded muslims to STRIKE OFF people's HEADS and FINGERS, you said the quran was EDITED. Blind islamic defender.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 9:14pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


You guys lack intelligence. If you are a young man reasoning this way, by the time you are old, there will be nothing more remaining in your head.

Old age is a virtue and not a vice, but because you guys reason upside down, you think it is a vice. It is the grace of God to grow old as none of is sure of getting old. Is your father a young boy? Smh!
an oldman that acts like a child is treated like a child. Thats what i'm doing!

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:
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lexiconkabir post=36372746:
old man why are you this foolish?? trying to use tactics of adhominem? try harder, dont beg me to leave the stage, BTW whats the meaning of this mystery TRINITY?.
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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:27pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
ever heard of ROYAL WE? probably yes, but because of hate u will pretend you dont know, if you havent heard of royal we then your english teacher in ss2 should be questioned.
Surah.6:114 Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when HE it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture,fully explained? Those unto whom WE gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth . So be not thou (O
Muhammad) of the waverers. Pickthall

The speaker here, whom we are
supposed to believe is Allah, says that he will not seek a judge other than Allah
and also uses singular and plural
pronouns interchangeably.

the royal plural doesn’t at all help the Muslim cause since it actually implies that Allah was addressing his royal court, his heavenly council. The online encyclopedia, Wikipedia, writes in regard to the purpose and function of
the royal plural:

Pluralis majestatis ("majestic
plural"wink is the plural pronoun where it
is used to refer to one person alone.
This is also known as the " royal we"
or the "Victorian we" because it has
usually been restricted to august
personages such as monarchs,
bishops, Popes, and university
rectors. The reason behind the
pluralis majestatis is the idea that a
monarch or other high official
ALWAYS SPEAKS FOR HIS OR HER
PEOPLE.
Examples of purported instances:
We are not amused. Queen
Victoria (in at least one account
of this quotation, though, she
was not speaking for herself
alone, BUT FOR THE LADIES OF
THE COURT.)
We are a grandmother. Margaret
Thatcher announcing the birth of
Mark Thatcher’s son Michael in
1990.
It is to be distinguished from pluralis
modestiae, also pluralis auctoris
(inclusion of readers or listeners). For
instance:
Let's calculate! Leibniz
We are thus led also to a
definition of "time" in physics.
Albert Einstein
It was said that United States Navy
Admiral Hyman G. Rickover told a
subordinate that used the royal we:
"Three groups are permitted that
usage: pregnant women, royalty, and
schizophrenics. Which one are you?"
There is no such thing as the "Papal
we". The pope may use the "Royal
we". http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluralis_Majestatis

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by pesty100(m): 9:28pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
oh, an atheist? but i hope you are not trying to hide christianity as your religion. that will make you a hypocrite.
unecessary deviation
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:32pm On Jul 28, 2015
truthman2012:


You guys lack intelligence. If you are a young man reasoning this way, by the time you are old, there will be nothing more remaining in your head.

Old age is a virtue and not a vice, but because you guys reason upside down, you think it is a vice. It is the grace of God to grow old as none of is sure of getting old. Is your father a young boy? Smh!
Psalm 90:10
The years of our life are seventy, or even
by REASON OF STRENGTH EIGHTY; yet their
span is but toil and trouble; they are
soon gone, and we fly away.

The Lord is your strength, remain bless.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jul 28, 2015
@malvisguy212 i now see that the christians on this thread are "literate-illiterates" so to speak, just looking for points. well arabic has different styles of referring to oneself(i.e a majestic being), "I, HE, and WE" is used in arabic, the same in english, chinese, persian, french etc. all these styles were used when revealing the quran, so whats your point? u need to go back to a remedial class!!

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:39pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
old man why are you this foolish?? trying to use tactics of adhominem? try harder, dont beg me to leave the stage, BTW whats the meaning of this mystery TRINITY?.
you begins the discussions as a gentleman but when you have no points in answering the op question, you turned to insult, do you want to remain in islam even when the truth is shown to you ? Let its be sealed in your heart.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:45pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@malvisguy212 i now see that the christians on this thread are "literate-illiterates" so to speak, just looking for points. well arabic has different styles of referring to oneself(i.e a majestic being), "I, HE, and WE" is used in arabic, the same in english, chinese, persian, french etc. all these styles were used when revealing the quran, so whats your point? u need to go back to a remedial class!!
nonsense!!! By the explanation given by the royal we , does it mean Allah and his crew breath "A" his spirit on Mary?

Surah 21:91: “And (remember) her
who guarded her chastity: WE
breathed into her of OUR spirit, and
We made her and her son a sign for
all peoples.” (Yusuf Ali)

Our spirit? Allah and his crew breath on Mary ?keep On living in denials. It is only God can removed this satanic manipulation on muslims.

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Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 9:53pm On Jul 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
you begins the discussions as a gentleman but when you have no points in answering the op question, you turned to insult, do you want to remain in islam even when the truth is shown to you ? Let its be sealed in your heart.
gentleman? when i was being a gentleman, i was taken for a fool? now i think you should be asked that question, you cant explain what trinity means, your bible creates doubts if christ died at the cross, your bible was written many years after the departure of christ, you cant show me where you are told to worship on sunday nor celebrate christmas on the 25th, etc and you call that a clear religion??. smh
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 10:03pm On Jul 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
nonsense!!! By the explanation given by the royal we , does it mean Allah and his crew breath "A" his spirit on Mary?

Surah 21:91: “And (remember) her
who guarded her chastity: WE
breathed into her of OUR spirit, and
We made her and her son a sign for
all peoples.” (Yusuf Ali)

Our spirit? Allah and his crew breath on Mary ?keep On living in denials. It is only God can removed this satanic manipulation on muslims.
why are you telling lies? keep being deceptful like your master PAUL) are you this ridiculous? desperate neo-con christian! this is the original translation, "and she who guarded her chastity: we breathed into her and we made her and her son a sign for al-alamin.(original translation, without translator's ideas) out of your deceptful nature, you added both the original translation with the translator's idea. #smh.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 10:08pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
gentleman? when i was being a gentleman, i was taken for a fool? now i think you should be asked that question, you cant explain what trinity means, your bible creates doubts if christ died at the cross, your bible was written many years after the departure of christ, you cant show me where you are told to worship on sunday nor celebrate christmas on the 25th, etc and you call that a clear religion??. smh
we, christians are not bound by the ruled of religion, christ has already seal the LAW in our heart , worship on Sunday , Saturday ,All we do it for God .
Bible say in Romans14:
Romans 14:5-6
One man regards one day above
another, another regards every day
alike. Let each man be fully
convinced in his own mind. HE WHO
OBSERVE THE DAY,OBSERVE IT FOR THE LORD , and he who eats, does so for
the Lord, for he gives thanks to God;
and he who eats not, for the Lord he
does not eat, and gives thanks to
God.

Colossians 2:16
Therefore let NO ONE ACT AS YOUR JUDGE in regard to food or drink or in
respect to a festival or a new moon
or a SABBATH DAY - things which are
a MERE shadow of what is to come;
but the substance belongs to Christ.

Colossians 3:17
However, there are qualifiers to this
verse:
And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father.

Do you get the points? Monday to Sunday, it dosent matter, just serve God with ALL your mind and Love your neighbours.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 10:12pm On Jul 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
why are you telling lies? keep being deceptful like your master PAUL) are you this ridiculous? desperate neo-con christian! this is the original translation, "and she who guarded her chastity(mary): we breathed into her and we made her and her son a sign for al-alamin. out of your deceptful nature, you added both the original translation with the translator idea. #smh.
so ,yusuf Ali translations is corrupts ? Nonetheless!!! "WE breath in to her" Allah and his crews breath into Mary ?
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 10:17pm On Jul 28, 2015
@malvisguy212 no rules on how to do things? absurd! alright let me pretend to agree, clearly explain the TRINITY.
Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by Nobody: 10:19pm On Jul 28, 2015
@malvisguy212 think am very well before tomorrow o(TRINITY)! i wanna sleep, gudnyt my christian friends wink

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