Does anyone here believe that he earthquake in italy an act of god?
And if so, why would god send an earthquake to Italy, the home of the roman catholic church?

My condolences go out to the victims and their families.

Re: Italian Earthquake: An Act Of God?

 Highly unlikely. Earthquakes happen everywhere and all the time.

Its not god, its mother nature

the ancient jews believed that natural disasters were caused by their angry god. they believed that natural disasters are yahwehs wrath.

The LORD is a jealous God, filled with vengeance and wrath. He takes revenge on all who oppose him and furiously destroys his enemies! [/b]The LORD is slow to get angry, but his power is great, and he never lets the guilty go unpunished. He displays his power in the whirlwind and the storm. The billowing clouds are the dust beneath his feet. [b]At his command the oceans and rivers dry up, the lush pastures of Bashan and Carmel fade, and the green forests of Lebanon wilt. In his presence the mountains quake, and the hills melt away; the earth trembles, and its people are destroyed. Who can stand before his fierce anger? Who can survive his burning fury? His rage blazes forth like fire, and the mountains crumble to dust in his presence. The LORD is good. When trouble comes, he is a strong refuge. And he knows everyone who trusts in him. But he sweeps away his enemies in an overwhelming flood. He pursues his foes into the darkness of night. (Nahum 1:2-

most of the ancient jews believed that natural disasters like earth quake and floods were sent unto them by yahweh when he gets angry with them because they worship other gods and refuse to worship him. . . . .

mazaje:

the ancient jews believed that natural disasters were caused by their angry god. they believed that natural disasters are yahwehs wrath.


most of the ancient jews believed that natural disasters like earth quake and floods were sent unto them by yahweh when he gets angry with them because they worship other gods and refuse to worship him. . . . .

  and what does what the ancient Jews believed have to do with todays Italians? or todays Nigerians and what they believe?

  I guess you can't help yourself, your disdain for christianity does not miss any hint of a chance to mudsling. It's sad.

JeSoul:

  and what does what the ancient Jews believed have to do with todays Italians? or todays Nigerians and what they believe?

  I guess you can't help yourself, your disdain for christianity does not miss any hint of a chance to mudsling. It's sad.

the poster asked if the italian earthquake was an act of god and i showed how the ancient jews thought that natural disaters like earthquakes were an act of punishment from their god on his enemies or those of them that refuse to worship him and worship other gods. . . . . .if you read the bible most natural disasters like famine, earthquakes etc were all attributed and considered to be punishment from yahweh unto the people for their unbeliefs or worship of other gods. . . . . i am not throwing mud i am only stating what is in the bible. . . . .

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Italian Earthquake: The families undergoing the tragedy may find grace from God.

An act of God or not should not be the debate. Its better to be reminded that we could be next, we are all mortals, where do I go from here? This could be God's way, or a natural process (also from God). What is not revealed belong's to God, no use debating.

What one could do is to be reminded that its only a matter of time when all of us here will have to taste death (either a natural death, disease, earthquake, landslide, fire, plane crash, etc. etc.). Where will our souls spend eternity thereafter?

Christ has set me free from this fear, I am assured of eternal life in Christ!

Blessings,

I suppose if you were living before anyone had ever heard of the theory of plate tectonics, then the only 'rational' explanation for earthquakes would be "god did it". The main debate would be why he did it and who made him so mad.
We all now accept that this has been proven by science to be an irrational explanation. God didn't do it, its a natural result of the immense kinetic forces and colossal amounts of friction created by the slow stop / start movement of continental plates over the earth's hot molten interior. Thanks to the scientists who refused to accept that it is a punishment from god and kept asking questions, we now know that where these huge continental plates meet, that is where we get earthquakes.
In my opinion i believe that the truth is much more important and useful than ancient myths which were used to control people through irrational fear based on supernatural superstition and ignorance.

@Poster. Why wld u use a small g for God.

earthquake in italy, home of Roman catholic church.

@poster:
God own all things seen and unseen, God own the creation, the universe and therefore is present everywhere, not in one country, so earthquake anywhere else would mean the same pain. But after your innocent first post, you showed your true intention when you went on to talk from a high pedestal and displayed your prejudice. Your posts show that you speak from a point of absolute ignorance about God.

God didn't do it, its a natural result of the immense kinetic forces and colossal amounts of friction created by the slow stop / start movement of continental plates over the earth's hot molten interior.

Its true scientists discovered that its the kinetic forces, now which of your scientist frient started the immense kinetic forces and colossal amounts of friction . . .!! It is the God of the Bible.

Thanks to the scientists who refused to accept that it is a punishment from god and kept asking questions,

The scientists whom you say refused . . . . . were given wisdom from God, and many of these scientists are believers in the God of the Bible.

we now know that where these huge continental plates meet, that is where we get earthquakes.

good, you know the earthquakes are caused due to meeting of huge continental plates. But which scientist friend of yours can set up a continental plate with water as its foundation? It is God of the Bible who created heavens and the earth. Scientists are only discovering its functioning.

Which scientist friend of yours can predict the earthquake or the movement of these plates? Which scientist friend of yours can explain why these plates move and when these plates will move? It is God who decides or has already set a principle in motion.

Whatever the scientists have said so far is only discovery of what God has created. So if you can boast so proudly of the scientists who have only discovered an iota of what God has created, I wish you could behold the beauty and wisdom of the creator himself - Jesus Christ!

blessings,

mantraa:

I suppose if you were living before anyone had ever heard of the theory of plate tectonics, then the only 'rational' explanation for earthquakes would be "god did it". The main debate would be why he did it and who made him so mad.
We all now accept that this has been proven by science to be an irrational explanation. God didn't do it, its a natural result of the immense kinetic forces and colossal amounts of friction created by the slow stop / start movement of continental plates over the earth's hot molten interior. Thanks to the scientists who refused to accept that it is a punishment from god and kept asking questions, we now know that where these huge continental plates meet, that is where we get earthquakes.
In my opinion i believe that the truth is much more important and useful than ancient myths which were used to control people through irrational fear based on supernatural superstition and ignorance.

This is very true. . . . .as the ancient jews continuously faced problems and setbacks they asked themselves "why", and their answer was often that bad things happen to them because they failed to properly worship their god and hold his commandments, they thought natural phenomenon like earthquakes, floods and famine were all due to the anger of their god on them because they do not worship him properly or because they worship other gods due to their ignorance of how those things come about.  there are many jewish stories where a certain faction of jews or non jews are blamed for bringing destruction on jews as a whole. most were killed in such cases. . . . when ever the ancient jews lost wars they cried unto their god and ask why he has forsaken them,  this type of mentality was really typical of jewish culture. as some one has already said what you don't know is your god and what you know is science. . . . .

Truth11:


@poster:
God is everywhere, not in one country. Even on sun, moon, stars. But after your innocent first post, you showed your true intention when you went on to talk from a high pedestal and displayed your prejudice. Your posts show that you speak from a point of absolute ignorance about God.
Its true scientists discovered that its the kinetic forces, now which of your scientist frient started the immense kinetic forces and colossal amounts of friction . . .!! It is the God of the Bible.

how do you know all these? you seem to depend too much on the words, ideas and imaginations of ancient jews that thought the rainbow was a covenant between them and their god. . . . they were wrong. . . . .

The scientists whom you say refused . . . . . were given wisdom from God, and many of these scientists are believers in the God of the Bible.
good, you know the earthquakes are caused due to meeting of huge continental plates. But which scientist friend of yours can set up a continental plate with water as its foundation? It is God of the Bible who created heavens and the earth. Scientists are only discovering its functioning.

Who told you that? how do you know that it is the god of the bible that created the heavens and the earth and not allah of the koran or vishnu the hindu god? by the way which of the creation accounts in genesis 1 and 2 is the true creation account? the god portrayed in the bible knows very little about science and how the world operates, it he does he will not inspire people to write that evil spirits cause diseases. . . .he will not inspire people to imply through their writings that the earth is the center of the universe and he will not inspire people to write that rainbows are a covenant between man and god or that the earth has four corners. . . .

Which scientist friend of yours can predict the earthquake or the movement of these plates? Which scientist friend of yours can explain why these plates move and when these plates will move? It is God who decides or has already set a principle in motion.

You seem to be lost eh, we have devices that detect earthquake and read their magnitudes, scientist have early detecting and warning devices all over the place. even the earthquake in italy was detected and people were warned to leave. . . . who told you that is is your god that does all these thing? is it the writings, ideas and imaginations of ancient jews that told you that? open your eyes there is much more to the world than the ideas and imaginations of ancient jewish men. . . .

Whatever the scientists have said so far is only discovery of what God has created. So if you can boast so proudly of the scientists who have only discovered an iota of what God has created, I wish you could behold the beauty and wisdom of the creator himself - Jesus Christ!

blessings,

again who told you that it is the god of the bible that created the world and not the god of the koran or the gods of the hindu text?. . . . . . .

Truth11:

Italian Earthquake: The families undergoing the tragedy may find grace from God.

An act of God or not should not be the debate. Its better to be reminded that we could be next, we are all mortals, where do I go from here? This could be God's way, or a natural process (also from God). What is not revealed belong's to God, no use debating.

Your writing indicates no thinking at all, why is there no use debating? we all want to know if this "God" is a real entity or not and if he is real we want to know what his attributes are. Some people are quick to tell us he is good and everything nice but if he is killing people in earthquakes or allowing them to die it is either he has psycopathic tendencies or is plain inept and has not control whatsoever on his supposed creation.

Truth11:


Which scientist friend of yours can predict the earthquake or the movement of these plates? Which scientist friend of yours can explain why these plates move and when these plates will move? It is God who decides or has already set a principle in motion.

Whatever the scientists have said so far is only discovery of what God has created. So if you can boast so proudly of the scientists who have only discovered an iota of what God has created, I wish you could behold the beauty and wisdom of the creator himself - Jesus Christ!

blessings,

Sincere premise and questions but very dodgy conclusion.

mazaje:

how do you know all these? you seem to depend too much on the words, ideas and imaginations of ancient jews that thought the rainbow was a covenant between them and their god. . . . they were wrong. . . . .

I believe the Bible because of my personal encounter with God. I was like you sometime ago. How do you prove that rainbow was not a covenant from God?

how do you know that it is the god of the bible that created the heavens and the earth and not allah of the koran or vishnu the hindu god?

The creator has so clearly stated that in the Bible. He also gives an account in many places how it was created. Nobody else has the power to even claim it or explain how it was done. Jesus is the creator. When on earth he walked on water and they did not drown him, he turned water into wine, he restored the eyes of the blind, he raised the dead to life, he cured the leapors, he rose from the dead, which other God did this? God doesn't need certification from you to be acknowledged as God. It is you who need to know him and acknowledge him as God. He has given enough proofs for all to see, those who still do not see unfortunately stand condemned already. But if you repent, he is able and just to forgive you of all your sins and cleanse you from all your unrighteousness.

by the way which of the creation accounts in genesis 1 and 2 is the true creation account?

all of it is true account. if you had the spirit of Christ you would understand, but you have the spirit of disobedience so you will doubt and have disbelief. Human mind cannot concieve what God has prepared, it needs spiritual enlightenment. Its your FREEWILL to receive Christ and then all things will be clear!

the god portrayed in the bible knows very little about science and how the world operates, it he does he will not inspire people to write that evil spirits cause diseases. .

all of God's word is true. You are commenting on a realm of which human flesh has no understanding. So your dilemma is understandable, I was in the same boat 15 years ago. If you sincerely accept your foolishness and sinfulness to Christ, you will understand the Bible and it will be glorious day of redemption! Your FREEWILL!

. .he will not inspire people to imply through their writings that the earth is the center of the universe and he will not inspire people to write that rainbows are a covenant between man and god or that the earth has four corners. . . .

so how many corners are there, if not four? Do you know the expansion of NEWS? can you explain how the pilot knows the direction to fly from one point to the other? Do you know how ships navigate through the seas? Do you know how the maps are drawn? Do you know which direction it is if you are holding a map and looking upwards (after you have the four corners held in the right way!)?

You seem to be lost eh, we have devices that detect earthquake and read their magnitudes, scientist have early detecting and warning devices all over the place. even the earthquake in italy was detected and people were warned to leave. . . .

good, so they knew the path of the earthquake but kept it as a secret so they were waiting to count how many will fall through the crack? how many did you bet would fall through the crack as you already knew about the earthquake? I know there is a prediction about my city that we are on earthquake zone5 and in next 200 years we can expect a major earthquake as there was none for last 200 years! Great scientists!!! So, in our city, we are all shaking and preparing(excuse some delay in my posts)   That is the prediction. I am not saying scientists cannot predict, but can they tell why the plates moved now and not before or after?

who told you that is is your god that does all these thing? is it the writings, ideas and imaginations of ancient jews that told you that? open your eyes there is much more to the world than the ideas and imaginations of ancient jewish men. . . .

Who told you that God doesnt control the creation?

again who told you that it is the god of the bible that created the world and not the god of the koran or the gods of the hindu text?. . . . . . .

who told you that the God of the Bible did not create the world?

duduspace:

Your writing indicates no thinking at all, why is there no use debating? we all want to know if this "God" is a real entity or not and if he is real we want to know what his attributes are.

I say no use debating because of the result to be achieved. A believer in Christ understands many things by faith, and this debate is talking about functioning of nature-God's foreknowledge about all things - God's plan for creation - etc. etc. If you genuinely want to know if this God of the Bible is a real entity then you would leave this chat board, take a Bible, sit in a quite place in your home or elsewhere and pray "God I am a sinner but want to know you. Its hard for me to believe that the God of the Bible is the true God and master over creation, but as told by truth11 on the NF forum I believe that you love me sacrificed your son Jesus Christ on the cross for my sins. I am a sinner and ask Jesus to wash me in the blood he shed for my sins and today I invite Jesus into my heart. Please speak to me as I read the Bible and lead me into all truth, in Jesus name, Amen". Continue to read the Bible. We can interact after a few weeks or months.

Some people are quick to tell us he is good and everything nice but if he is killing people in earthquakes or allowing them to die it is either he has psycopathic tendencies or is plain inept and has not control whatsoever on his supposed creation. Sincere premise and questions but very dodgy conclusion

He is a good God and therefore he has secured eternal life by sacrificing his son Jesus Christ, so that whether you die in an earthquake, or a nuclear attack, or sickness or natural death your soul is secure for eternity. Is this not a good God the one who promises eternal life, one who promises crossing over from death to life, one who promises no punishment for your sins but takes every single sin on himself and dies on the cross setting the receiver of the gospel free from punishment? Is this not a good God who has prepared a place for you in heaven? Is he not a good God who walks with you every minute of your life till you reach him? Is he not a good God who gives you peace, love, joy, forgiveness, patience, kindness, goodness, and all his qualities. I believe he is good. But if you belive that the one who did nothing to secure your soul but leads you into confusion with lies, violence, wrong arguments is a better option, its your choice.

Truth11:

I believe the Bible because of my personal encounter with God. I was like you sometime ago. How do you prove that rainbow was not a covenant from God?

i can prove this because the ancient jews thought that rainbows only appear or form in the clouds, they didn't know that rainbows may also form in the spray created by waves in oceans and seas. . . you can even create your own rainbow in your garden. this is what the ancient jews wrote.

I have set my bow in the clouds, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh.Genesis 9.13-15

the ancient jews rainbows only appear in the clouds. . . . in other mythologies ancient portrayal of the rainbow is given in the Epic of Gilgamesh: the rainbow is the "jewelled necklace of the Great Mother Ishtar" that she lifts into the sky as a promise that she "will never forget these days of the great flood" that destroyed her children. (The Epic of Gilgamesh, Tablet Eleven) (from wikipedia)

In Greek mythology, the rainbow was considered to be a path made by a messenger (Iris) between Earth and Heaven. In Chinese mythology, the rainbow was a slit in the sky sealed by Goddess Nüwa using stones of five different colours. In Hindu mythology, the rainbow is called "Indradhanush", meaning the bow (Sanskrit & Hindi: dhanush is bow) of Indra, the God of lightning, thunder and rain. In Norse Mythology, a rainbow called the Bifröst Bridge connects the realms of Ásgard and Midgard, homes of the gods and humans, respectively. (from wikipedia).

so you see the ancient jews were no different than other ancient people like them that had little or no knowledge about the rainbow. they didn't know that a rainbow is an optical and meteorological phenomenon that causes a spectrum of light to appear in the sky when the sun shines onto droplets of moisture in the earth's atmosphere. They take the form of a multicoloured arc, with red on the outer part of the arch and violet on the inner section of the arch.(this is the defination from wikipedia) they ancient jews did not know this that was why they said it was a covenant between them and there god after the noah's flood that never happened. . . . .

The creator has so clearly stated that in the Bible. He also gives an account in many places how it was created. Nobody else has the power to even claim it or explain how it was done. Jesus is the creator. When on earth he walked on water and they did not drown him, he turned water into wine, he restored the eyes of the blind, he raised the dead to life, he cured the leapors, he rose from the dead, which other God did this? God doesn't need certification from you to be acknowledged as God. It is you who need to know him and acknowledge him as God. He has given enough proofs for all to see, those who still do not see unfortunately stand condemned already. But if you repent, he is able and just to forgive you of all your sins and cleanse you from all your unrighteousness.

the accounts do not makes sense at all, the biblegod does not seem to know what he is talking about in hs creation accounts. . . . .what is sin and what is unrighteousness?

all of it is true account. if you had the spirit of Christ you would understand, but you have the spirit of disobedience so you will doubt and have disbelief. Human mind cannot concieve what God has prepared, it needs spiritual enlightenment. Its your FREEWILL to receive Christ and then all things will be clear!

are you sure? when did the biblegod create plants on the earth? in the creation account in genesis 1 it says that god created plants by commanding them to spring out of the fround which they did on the 3rd day but in the creation account in genesis 2 it says that after the biblegod had finished creating the world and rested on the 7th day there were still no plants on the earth because he had not caused it to rain and because there was no man to till the ground. so did he create planst on the 3rd day as written in genesis 1 or did he create plants after he rested on the 7th day?

all of God's word is true. You are commenting on a realm of which human flesh has no understanding. So your dilemma is understandable, I was in the same boat 15 years ago. If you sincerely accept your foolishness and sinfulness to Christ, you will understand the Bible and it will be glorious day of redemption! Your FREEWILL!

i have told you that there is nothing like free will in the bible. can you show me where the word freewill is in the bible?

Rom 9:16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.
Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
Eph 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Eph 1:5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will.
Eph 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.

so how many corners are there, if not four? Do you know the expansion of NEWS? can you explain how the pilot knows the direction to fly from one point to the other? Do you know how ships navigate through the seas? Do you know how the maps are drawn? Do you know which direction it is if you are holding a map and looking upwards (after you have the four corners held in the right way!)?

good, so they knew the path of the earthquake but kept it as a secret so they were waiting to count how many will fall through the crack? how many did you bet would fall through the crack as you already knew about the earthquake? I know there is a prediction about my city that we are on earthquake zone5 and in next 200 years we can expect a major earthquake as there was none for last 200 years! Great scientists!!! So, in our city, we are all shaking and preparing(excuse some delay in my posts) That is the prediction. I am not saying scientists cannot predict, but can they tell why the plates moved now and not before or after?

Who told you that God doesnt control the creation?

there is no evidence of any god at all, the fact that you believe that there is an imaginary god controlling the world does not make it true. . . there are forces of nature that control everything. . . .

who told you that the God of the Bible did not create the world?

because the people that wrote the creation accounts in genesis do not know what they are talking about. . . .

Gen 1:28Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
Gen 1:29 And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which[is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.
Gen 1:30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food"; and it was so.
Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed [it was] very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

did the biblegod really create all animals as vegetarians? lions, tigers, polar bears, leopards, and man? does the dentition of a lion or tiger show you that it was ever created to eat plants or green herbs? here is the biblegod saying that he has given every green herb as food to every beast on land and in the air in which there is life and so it was. . . .

Free will doesn't exist.

Badriyyah:
Free will doesn't exist.

you defy your own statement by posting!!! or did God tell you to post it??

Truth11:

you defy your own statement by posting!!! or did God tell you to post it??

Yeah, God told me to post it. If freewill existed i'll be able to tell God I choose not to take part in judgement day. But wait, I can't. So is this so called Free will limited to certain things?

mazaje:

i can prove this because the ancient jews thought that rainbows only appear or form in the clouds, they didn't know that rainbows may also form in the spray created by waves in oceans and seas. . . you can even create your own rainbow in your garden. this is what the ancient jews wrote.

How do you know what the ancient jews thought. Were you there when they were speaking? See from your own argument, you are making self defeating statements.

However, how does that contradict the Bible? Read what the Bible passage says about rainbow - There is no contradiction which you are trying to create. Rainbow indicates that God will not destroy earth with waters again as in the time of Noah. It doesnt matter whether you see in the garden, or sea or bathtub!! Be happy everytime you see it and remember God's covenant not to destroy and continue your gardening or bathing!

the ancient jews rainbows only appear in the clouds. . . . in other mythologies ancient portrayal of the rainbow is given in the Epic of Gilgamesh: the rainbow is the "jewelled necklace of the Great Mother Ishtar" that she lifts into the sky as a promise that she "will never forget these days of the great flood" that destroyed her children. (The Epic of Gilgamesh, Tablet Eleven) (from wikipedia)

What does the Bible say on rainbow. Read the passage and it will be very clear.

In Greek mythology, the rainbow was considered to be a path made by a messenger (Iris) between Earth and Heaven. In Chinese mythology, the rainbow was a slit in the sky sealed by Goddess Nüwa using stones of five different colours. In Hindu mythology, the rainbow is called "Indradhanush", meaning the bow (Sanskrit & Hindi: dhanush is bow) of Indra, the God of lightning, thunder and rain. In Norse Mythology, a rainbow called the Bifröst Bridge connects the realms of Ásgard and Midgard, homes of the gods and humans, respectively. (from wikipedia).

Hindu mythology - so its already clear that its a myth, so why waste time discussing myths. Bible is the truth, not a myth.

so you see the ancient jews were no different than other ancient people like them that had little or no knowledge about the rainbow. they didn't know that a rainbow is an optical and meteorological phenomenon that causes a spectrum of light to appear in the sky when the sun shines onto droplets of moisture in the earth's atmosphere. They take the form of a multicoloured arc, with red on the outer part of the arch and violet on the inner section of the arch.(this is the defination from wikipedia) they ancient jews did not know this that was why they said it was a covenant between them and there god after the noah's flood that never happened. . . . .

Its good that we know how it is done, but who has created this beautiful pattern to be formed talks about the beauty and the wisdom of the creator. God of the Bible clearly states that he created the rainbow, so where is the contradiction. You are only explaining the process which God set in  motion.

the accounts do not makes sense at all, the biblegod does not seem to know what he is talking about in hs creation accounts. . . . .what is sin and what is unrighteousness?

If one is blind doesnt understand, that should not mean all others are blind too. Dont accuse like a beast without any understanding. What confuses you so much about sin and unrighteousness? What do you understand from both?

i have told you that there is nothing like free will in the bible. can you show me where the word freewill is in the bible?

The very first man and women, Adam and Eve, were given a choice(FREEWILL) to eat of the forbidden fruit and they misused it. If there was no freewill, we would have been in the garden.

there is no evidence of any god at all, the fact that you believe that there is an imaginary god controlling the world does not make it true. . . there are forces of nature that control everything. . . .

This is your opinion. When I look around, its impossible to see the order in nature and creation and believe that there is no planner, no God.

because the people that wrote the creation accounts in genesis do not know what they are talking about. . . .

This sentence is more appropriate for you. You dont know spiritual life and God and talk like a child full of ignorance. Moses who wrote the creation account was the one who spoke to God face to face, you are unworthy and unqualified to say anything as you dont have any such experience. The great wisdom in every word is profound. Any person who does not understand this has to be an absolute slowpoke.

Badriyyah:
Yeah, God told me to post it. If freewill existed i'll be able to tell God I choose not to take part in judgement day. But wait, I can't. So is this so called Free will limited to certain things?

Thanks, so you walk right into my argument!! Next step from God, he said this is eternal life, that you believe in his son Jesus Christ. Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead and you will be saved. Let me know when you are finished.

Blessings,

@ poster

take it as this;

it is an act of God, because God controls nature, if someone believes its Mother Earth or Mother Nature, then God is their master, God can stop natural disasters, as well as He can cause them.

In this case, God gets hold of everything, e.g. one will wonder, with all the sins in Nigeria, from the poor to the leaders, the preasts, the business moguls, Nigeria have never experienced an Earthquake. But we do have "Power Failures"!