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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Sharksblow(m): 9:29am On Nov 09, 2015
ANY TRIBE THAT REALLY WANTS TO LEAVE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO COS I WONDERED WHY WE WERE AMALGAMATED INITIALLY SEF....

BUT I STILL THINK THIS ONE IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE CONFUSION AMONG THE IBOS SEF.... MANY OF THEIR ELDERS DON'T BELIEVE IN THE MOVEMENT.... THE INEXPERIENCED YOUTH WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT WAR AND HISTORY ARE HAPPY AND TYPING GIBBERISH ON SOCIAL MEDIA....

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Tripleclick(m): 9:30am On Nov 09, 2015
thy want biafrans to protest for good governance b4 de know what to do
Ok .. look @ yoruba youths protesting for better develoment

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by MsGlobalwonder(f): 9:30am On Nov 09, 2015
EternalTruths:


Go back to the kitchen


UN Referendum or War cool
did u just say war? SMH!!
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by scantee(m): 9:34am On Nov 09, 2015
A tree can't make a forest, with or without the SE/Nigeria Governors Biafra is near, we the youth shall deploy any peaceful means to actualize it, i am 100+ % in support of the peaceful protest, this coming xmas i must visit home & organize/mobliz my village youths to push the crusade further. Prouldly 5%, Ipob, Massob, "THE RISEN SUN" Nwa ala Biafra obodo m'nnam

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Okeikpu(m): 9:34am On Nov 09, 2015
XBLadez:
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What is Kwara today?
grin
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by EternalTruths: 9:35am On Nov 09, 2015
asha80:
I repeat it was not a good move by him..you don't do such openly..the niger delta militants did no solicit fir weapons openly so that comparison does not stand..if there was supposed to be an international support for Biafra actualization that video alone if presented by FG that kanu wants to cause an armed conflict will just erase whatever sympathy he may have..you think they are interested in another armed conflict?by the way you really don't care if there is an armed conflict in igboland?do you live in igboland or do you visit at all?

buhari made the mistake of arresting him in the first instance( though his inciting hate messages can be used against him if eventually gets to icc ie kanu)..i dont know about you but last thing igboland needs now is arms flying around and an armed conflict..it would would create a so much Chaos igboland would find difficult to get over


My friend mark this comment down


I also hope the DSS also marks this comment down



Nigeria has 2 choice


1) Give the Igbos autonomy to decide their fate in Nigeria

2) Forget One Nigeria



Take it or leave it


The thought of armed struggle has started filling the Igboman.


A spark of injustice is what will propel them to fight. cool

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by coolzeal(m): 9:38am On Nov 09, 2015
kannymoore:


This Silence from the Governors of Anambra,Abia and Enugu states reminds me eerily of the beginnings of Boko Haram.

The Northern Leaders kept quiet with their silent support of Boko Haram especially when boko Haram were bombing and raiding churches until Boko Haram became the monster that it is today; engulfing everyone and everything in their path whether they be churches, mosques, or men, women and even children.

Black man no Dey ever learn even when recent history is staring blankly @ them in the face until it's already too late.
What does Boko Haram stands for? Answer, SHARIA and What does Biafra stands for? Answer, SELF DETERMINATION which according to UN is right and just. As far as I'm concerned they're different in ideology and path. NOT about Ojukwu anymore. these are NEW voices, not about a new WAR, is about new progress. Stop looking into the PAST.

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by PointB: 9:39am On Nov 09, 2015
asha80:
I repeat it was not a good move by him..you don't do such openly..the niger delta militants did no solicit fir weapons openly so that comparison does not stand.[b].if there was supposed to be an international support for Biafra actualization that video alone if presented by FG that kanu wants to cause an armed conflict will just erase whatever sympathy he may have..[/b]you think they are interested in another armed conflict?by the way you really don't care if there is an armed conflict in igboland?do you live in igboland or do you visit at all?

buhari made the mistake of arresting him in the first instance( though his inciting hate messages can be used against him if eventually gets to icc ie kanu)..i dont know about you but last thing igboland needs now is arms flying around and an armed conflict..it would would create a so much Chaos igboland would find difficult to get over

Actually, the bolded is your opinion. As we speak, there is an armed rebellion going on in Syria. The 'rebels' are openly asking for weapons, and they are getting it. There are other examples, so please stick to what you are certain of. International politics is as defined by the interest of the big and small players.

To answer your question, Igboland don't need an armed conflict, but Igboland must be ready to defend herself in case of an armed conflict, which the 'body language' of the incumbent is suggesting. And one of the best way to prevent such is by MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. Biafrans must be fully armed, and must be ready to take the fight to Nigeria territory, as that's the best means of discouraging an armed conflict. MAD is what is keeping Russians and US from having a go at each other. Those who seek freedom must not be afraid of death as all men must die! The foolish governors must first make way for those who are in tune with the reality of time for this to happen.

And if you agree Buhari made a mistake arresting him, why are you against his release? The foolish president must de-escalate the situation by releasing Kalu and offering talks! Otherwise, he'll spend more money buying weapons rather than improving infrastructure - that's a recipe for failure.

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Okeikpu(m): 9:40am On Nov 09, 2015
teamchocolate:
Are u minding the fool, who wrote this report... or else it wud av been mideastern....

They just like laying foolish claims... Landlocked gully erosion ridden lands with the cursed pple living on them..
No reasonable person wants to live there, that's why Lagos n SW is their little london...


But the greed for SS oil is their doom; do u think if they just wanted those 5 states, we won't happily let them go, dem go collect visa come lagos tire.. awon oloshi

Poorman grin

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Proudlyjam: 9:40am On Nov 09, 2015
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by ProfessorPeter(m): 9:41am On Nov 09, 2015
Before you begin to blame Igbo, why will Buhari not release Nnamdi, if he has been granted bail and he has met the bail conditions? I repeat with the way Buhari is running this country, he's going to be the last president of Nigeria

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by ransomed: 9:41am On Nov 09, 2015
Corrupt politicians of igbo extraction that have been stealing since 1999 are the group of Biafra agitators who want to circumvent the current fight against corruption. Biafra will emerge but not through violence and corrupt ndigbo. Let us thread cautiously. The old wound is yet to heal and "toddlers" are drumming and singing for war.
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Gidi3020(m): 9:42am On Nov 09, 2015
Please what's this, novel??
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by cassyrooy(m): 9:45am On Nov 09, 2015
Feisty
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Okeikpu(m): 9:47am On Nov 09, 2015
Eve0000:
I am igbo but i seriously dont support this,we dont need another civil war/bloodshed in this country. The bloodshed we are facing currently is enough.PEACE
Oburokwa etua ka Umunwanyi Israel siri jikota Oboda fa onu. Anyi aga ejizi ujo welu dalu Enwe n'elu

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by asha80(m): 9:48am On Nov 09, 2015
PointB:


Actually, the bolded is your opinion. As we speak, there is an armed rebellion going on in Syria. The 'rebels' are openly asking for weapons, and they are getting it. There are other examples, so please stick to what you are certain of. International politics is as defined by the interest of the big and small players.

To answer your question, Igboland don't need an armed conflict, but Igboland must be ready to defend herself from in case of and armed conflict, which the 'body language' of the incumbent is suggesting. And one of the best way to prevent such is by MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. Biafrans must be fully armed, and must be ready to take the fight to Nigeria territory, as that's the best means of discouraging the an armed conflict. MAD is what is keeping Russians and US from having a go at each other. Those who seek freedom must not be afraid of death as all men must die! The foolish governors must first make way for those who are in tune with the reality of time for this to happen.

And if you agree Buhari made a mistake arresting him, why are you against his release? The foolish president must de-escalate the situation by releasing Kalu and offering talks! Otherwise, he'll spend more money buying weapons rather than improving infrastructure - that's a recipe for failure.
and you want mind igboland turning to Syria with Igbo refugees moving around neighbouring Africa countries looking for asylum? I.hope you know some of the erosion issues in the se were cause by bombs that were dropped in the war back then that created craters than eventually snowballed into erosion? Look my own is that igboland does not witness any armed conflict again because i doubt we will recover from it again..there are already dearth of infrastructure that really needs uplifting and it is not like the last administration did anything meaningful

EternalTruths:

My friend mark this comment down
I also hope the DSS also marks this comment down
Nigeria has 2 choice
1) Give the Igbos autonomy to decide their fate in Nigeria
2) Forget One Nigeria
Take it or leave it
The thought of armed struggle has started filling the Igboman.
A spark of injustice is what will propel them to fight. cool

Armed conflict is only romantic in books and films

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by kannymoore(m): 9:50am On Nov 09, 2015
coolzeal:
What does Boko Haram stands for? Answer, SHARIA and What does Biafra stands for? Answer, SELF DETERMINATION which according to UN is right and just. As far as I'm concerned they're different in ideology and path. NOT about Ojukwu anymore. these are NEW voices, not about a new WAR, is about new progress. Stop looking into the PAST.

Boko Haram started out as a group with a peaceful philosophy of Self-determination too... They actually catered to the wants of the needy and the helpless back in the begining. or are you blind to that fact too?

As their popularity grew amongst the common folk, so did their ideology begin to slowly tilt towards getting their need for self determination through violence.
..and when their founder was killed, shit hit the fan and the result is what we have today.


Anyways sha... each to their own opinions, iguess.
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Nobody: 9:52am On Nov 09, 2015
EggovinMma:
What will be will be.
are u also in support of Biafra
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by taofeektaiwo(m): 9:52am On Nov 09, 2015
and u don't like that!
IAMTHEHERO:
Rochas wants to be PRESIDENT in 2019.That's why he is talking that way.
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Okeikpu(m): 9:53am On Nov 09, 2015
MsGlobalwonder:
did u just say war? SMH!!
Every plan is on the table, war isn't excluded. We did b4 nd we gonna do it again if care is not taking....

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by EternalTruths: 9:53am On Nov 09, 2015
PointB:


Actually, the bolded is your opinion. As we speak, there is an armed rebellion going on in Syria. The 'rebels' are openly asking for weapons, and they are getting it. There are other examples, so please stick to what you are certain of. International politics is as defined by the interest of the big and small players.

To answer your question, Igboland don't need an armed conflict, but Igboland must be ready to defend herself from in case of and armed conflict, which the 'body language' of the incumbent is suggesting. And one of the best way to prevent such is by MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. Biafrans must be fully armed, and must be ready to take the fight to Nigeria territory, as that's the best means of discouraging the an armed conflict. MAD is what is keeping Russians and US from having a go at each other. Those who seek freedom must not be afraid of death as all men must die! The foolish governors must first make way for those who are in tune with the reality of time for this to happen.

And if you agree Buhari made a mistake arresting him, why are you against his release? The foolish president must de-escalate the situation by releasing Kalu and offering talks! Otherwise, he'll spend more money buying weapons rather than improving infrastructure - that's a recipe for failure.


To further buttress your point


The Nigeria government is suffering victory disease



Victory disease is when a Nation allows her last victory deceive her into believing that she will always win



Biafrans have 2 sources of funding war


1) Her Resources

2) Her Diasporas



Biafra of 67 is different from Biafra of 2015


Unlike 67 were lots of minorities hate Igbos 2015 has seen the minorities take side with Biafrans. cool

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Guyman02: 9:54am On Nov 09, 2015
The protests have not been violent that is why Rochas is angry. He wants it to become violent so that he can reason to call them miscreants.

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by basileze: 9:57am On Nov 09, 2015
As a young Nigerian, I wonder why other regions have 6 states each while south East has only 5 states.

I also wonder why the oil producing areas who suffer oil spills are neglected but rather people from other areas allocate and share oil blocks among themselves.

I wonder why my cutoff mark to gain admission to unity school/JAMB is higher than other regions candidates.

I also wonder why federal roads in South East are neglected while other regions have motor-able federal highways.

Questions but no answer

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by daprincel(m): 9:57am On Nov 09, 2015
frenchpharaoh1:
Nnamdi Azikiwe was a one Nigeria 'apologist'
But ojukwu was pro-biafra! He commands the youths of south eastern region!
Like Nnamdi kanu, like Ojukwu.
Like Azikiwe, like Okorocha.
He's entitled to his opinion.




So nnamdi shld lead ur youths to their deaths??
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by coolzeal(m): 9:57am On Nov 09, 2015
kannymoore:


Boko Haram started out as a group with a peaceful philosophy of Self-determination too... They actually catered to the wants of the needy and the helpless back in the begining. or are you blind to that fact too?

As their popularity grew amongst the common folk, so did their ideology begin to slowly tilt towards getting their need for self determination through violence.
..and when their founder was killed, shit hit the fan and the result is what we have today.


Anyways sha... each to their own opinions, iguess.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia... Don't get it twisted sir..

Boko Haram, which calls itself Wilāyat Gharb Ifrīqīyyah (Arabic: الولاية الإسلامية غرب أفريقيا‎, (Islamic State's) West Africa Province, ISWAP),[12] and Jamā'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da'wah wa'l-Jihād' (Arabic: جماعة أهل السنة للدعوة والجهاد‎, "Group of the People of Sunnah for Preaching and Jihad"wink,[13] is an Islamic extremist group based in northeastern Nigeria, also active in Chad, Niger and northern Cameroon.[7] The group's leader is Abubakar Shekau. The group had alleged links to al-Qaeda, but in March 2015, it announced its allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).[14][15]

After its founding in 2002, Boko Haram's increasing radicalization led to a violent uprising in July 2009 in which its leader was summarily executed.


BIAFRA was a loose territory of ethnic groups in pre-colonial Africa prior to the coming of the colonialists.Pre-colonial maps of Africa show the location of Biafra and the Bight of Biafra was renamed to Bight of Bonny by the Nigerian Government.[2] An attempt was made in 1967 to restore the old Biafran territory as an Independent state from Nigeria which caused the civil war. Biafra, officially the Republic of Biafra, was a secessionist state in south eastern Nigeria that existed from 30 May 1967 to 15 January 1970, taking its name from the Bight of Biafra (the Atlantic bay to its south).[2] The inhabitants were mostly the Igbo people who led the secession due to economic, ethnic, cultural and religious tensions among the various peoples of Nigeria. The creation of the new state that was pushing for recognition was among the causes of the Nigerian Civil War, also known as the Nigerian-Biafran War.

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by MsGlobalwonder(f): 10:00am On Nov 09, 2015
Okeikpu:
Every plan is on the table, war isn't excluded. We did b4 nd we gonna do it again if care is not taking....
you did before? And have you fully recovered from the effects of the war? Are you sure of victory? Why not other peaceful routes? I can bet my all that you were not born during the war, you couldn't have been around during the war and be canvassing for war as a means of getting whatever you are agitating for when there is a peaceful alternative means. Look before you leap oo. Eni ti won ba fi oriire fo agbon o ni je nibe. #JustSaying
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Guyman02: 10:00am On Nov 09, 2015
Why do Yoruba Muslims frown at Biafra so much.

Christian Yorubas dont see it as their problem and are clamouring for True Federalism and Regionalism in Nigeria.

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Akinz0126(m): 10:01am On Nov 09, 2015
Hmmm.hope the youth who are in support of this cause called biafra are for real?hope you guys knows exactly what you are into?hope you've thought of the aftermath?should you guys succeed no going back.You all should be hold responsible for your actions.Its quiet unfortunate that most of the youth who are clamouring for this cause do not know that what is behind six is more than seven.Something tells me those who keeps engineering that protest are doing so for there selfish interest.I pray you won't regret this too little too late.Igbo youth Think!!!
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Nobody: 10:03am On Nov 09, 2015
daprincel:





So nnamdi shld lead ur youths to their deaths??
You are not of igbo Origin.
So allow the Igbo youth to decide on where to belong!

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Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by kannymoore(m): 10:08am On Nov 09, 2015
coolzeal:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia... Don't get it twisted sir..

Boko Haram, which calls itself Wilāyat Gharb Ifrīqīyyah (Arabic: الولاية الإسلامية غرب أفريقيا‎, (Islamic State's) West Africa Province, ISWAP),[12] and Jamā'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da'wah wa'l-Jihād' (Arabic: جماعة أهل السنة للدعوة والجهاد‎, "Group of the People of Sunnah for Preaching and Jihad"wink,[13] is an Islamic extremist group based in northeastern Nigeria, also active in Chad, Niger and northern Cameroon.[7] The group's leader is Abubakar Shekau. The group had alleged links to al-Qaeda, but in March 2015, it announced its allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).[14][15]

[size=15pt]After its founding in 2002, Boko Haram's increasing radicalization led to a violent uprising in July 2009 in which its leader was summarily executed.[/size]


BIAFRA was a loose territory of ethnic groups in pre-colonial Africa prior to the coming of the colonialists.Pre-colonial maps of Africa show the location of Biafra and the Bight of Biafra was renamed to Bight of Bonny by the Nigerian Government.[2] An attempt was made in 1967 to restore the old Biafran territory as an Independent state from Nigeria which caused the civil war. Biafra, officially the Republic of Biafra, was a secessionist state in south eastern Nigeria that existed from 30 May 1967 to 15 January 1970, taking its name from the Bight of Biafra (the Atlantic bay to its south).[2] [size=15pt]The inhabitants were mostly the Igbo people who led the secession due to economic, ethnic, cultural and religious tensions among the various peoples of Nigeria.[/size] The creation of the new state that was pushing for recognition was among the causes of the Nigerian Civil War, also known as the Nigerian-Biafran War.

Read that part clearly and understand.

The key phrase there is "increasing radicalization"

This means that when they stared out, they weren't as radical as they are now but it's radicalization grew over time.

Is it any different from what I just put through before?

Now check the other eboldened paragraph..

Substitute Igbo with Bokoharam...

Any difference in ideology?

I think not.
Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by IdisuleOurOwn(m): 10:09am On Nov 09, 2015
coolzeal:
2 or 5 or maybe hundred of people cannot go against millions of people who want nothing but freedom. Rochas okorouwusa go and pay Imo workers first. He is an Hausa/Fulani man from Jos, so he cannot speak for us, and let Ohaneze speak for APC. Biafra must come with or without Ohaneze.... Ndi ara. Rochas is a joker.


CC mods.. My first topic on NairaLand got front page. The land of the rising sun.

My friend, keep quiet and go back to the romance /sexuality section, for you knew nothing about self determination.

Re: S-east Govs Divided Over Pro-biafra Struggle - Vanguard by Guyman02: 10:10am On Nov 09, 2015
The protest march started from Asaba where the people still feel pained by the massacre of a generation of their youth in 1969 and for which the wound is yet to heal.
Why is the Nigerian Civil War not included in Nigeria school curriculum as we seem to pretend it never happened.
Why is there no national memorial for the millions of people who died on both sides in the war like Britain yesterday marked the remembrance of those who died in the WW1&11?
Why is that Nigerian youths are not been reminded of an ugly event like the pogrom of 1966 so that they can learn from the mistakes of their elders and live in harmony and never be part of riots and mob actions in Nigeria?
Why why why?

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