toneyb:

Why must you keep bandying this great LIE? There are millions of christian that believe in evolution just as there are million of atheist that do not believe in evolution. Evolution is not a alternative to creationism because creationism is a myth. You believe that your god created the world in 6 days right? Where is your scientific evidence that support any of this claim? Some scientific evidence that support creationism will do. So far NO christian has been able to provide any. Attacking evolution does not count, Where are your scientific evidence that support creationism?

Neotic: Do you believe in creationism?

Toneyb: No I don't because it is a myth that has no scientific evidence and most of its claims have been disproved by science.

Neotic: Are you trying to say that all the evidence you see around you do not count?

Toneyb: What evidence are you talking about.

Noetic: All the evidence that you see around you are evidence for the god of the bible.

Toneyb: What I see around me is evidence for environment and vision. If you say your god created them then where is your scientific evidence that support your claims? What prediction does creationism make? How can it be tested and falsified like the Theory of evolution?

Noetic: Evolution is the tale of satan and has been disprove over abd over again on nairalan.

Toneyb: The people that talk about evolution on niaraland know little or nothing about evolution, if they did they will present their scientific paper to the NAS that disproves evolution and earn a Nobel peace prize. They can't do that because they surely do not know what they are talking about.

Noetic: Are you stupid? do you have a brain? Must you always display your ignorance? Are you intelligent at all? I said evolution has been falsified and disproved on nairaland.(Foaming in the mouth)

Toneyb: Let's not get all worked up. Where is your scientific evidence for creationism?

Noetic: I don't have any evidence other than majestic sunsets that show the glory of the bible god but we don't care, Jesus is on our side and he is the only truth.

Toneyb:   (Runs away laughing).

how many times have I revealed and exposed ur embarrassing IGNORANCE?

noetic2:

how many times have I revealed and exposed ur embarrassing IGNORANCE?

Red herring, Where is your scientific evidence for creationism? What are the predictions creationism make and how is it falsified? Can creationism predict outcomes, be useful in medical research, or do anything more useful than supporting the literal view of the bible? You guys claim it to be the "truth", but if it were how can they explain how the "lie" ( evolutionary theory) works so well as a science and a tool for advancing human life(I hope you never need an influenza shot, because scientist use evolutionary theory to make that )? Where is your scientific evidence that supports creationism.

toneyb:

Red herring, Where is your scientific evidence for creationism? What are the predictions creationism make and how is it falsified? Can creationism predict outcomes, be useful in medical research, or do anything more useful than supporting the literal view of the bible? You guys claim it to be the "truth", but if it were how can they explain how the "lie" ( evolutionary theory) works so well as a science and a tool for advancing human life(I hope you never need an influenza shot, because scientist use evolutionary theory to make that )? Where is your scientific evidence that supports creationism.

go here to answer ur evolution questions: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-279631.0.html

go here to see how ur continuous ignorance has been embarrassing: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-281109.32.html

stop making a fool of urself. . . . go and study.

noetic2:

go here to answer ur evolution questions: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-279631.0.html

go here to see how ur continuous ignorance has been embarrassing: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-281109.32.html

stop making a fool of urself. . . . go and study.

Bla bla bla bla bla. Where are your scientific evidence that supports creationism?

toneyb:

Bla bla bla bla bla. Where are your scientific evidence that supports creationism?

Yes noetic where is your evidence to support the farce called creationism?
Mind you evolution isn't the bedrock of atheism the way creationism is the foundation for jesus and his deluded followers. So crap about flaws or loopholes in evolution wouldn't be tolerated! Give us proof!

2noetic thanks for ur reply and welcome,

i see what u r trying to say that u guys can never reach a common ground, so i guess the fighting continues

any way will still like to hear from davidylan and others, as for the rest of u u can continue fighting, just wondering if there is anyone who considers himself a deist around here?

toneyb:

Bla bla bla bla bla. Where are your scientific evidence that supports creationism?

As if you have any scientific evidence to support evolution. These unintelligent cowards shld give us all a break pls

davidylan:

As if you have any scientific evidence to support evolution. These unintelligent cowards shld give us all a break pls

Has this FOOL written his peer reviewed paper that disproves evolution and submitted it to the  NAS yet? 

bindex:

Has this FOOL written his peer reviewed paper that disproves evolution and submitted it to the  NAS yet? 

More stupid and irrelevant piffle. Where are the peer reviewed papers from NAS that explicitly and without a shadow of a doubt support evolution? Has this fool EVER written a peer-reviewed paper? I have so pls keep quiet.

Tudór:

Yes noetic where is your evidence to support the farce called creationism?
Mind you evolution isn't the bedrock of atheism the way creationism is the foundation for jesus and his deluded followers. So crap about flaws or loopholes in evolution wouldn't be tolerated! Give us proof!

u keep ranting endlessly. when have u ever defended the ridiculous concept called evolution?

davidylan:

More stupid and irrelevant piffle. Where are the peer reviewed papers from NAS that explicitly and without a shadow of a doubt support evolution? Has this fool EVER written a peer-reviewed paper? I have so pls keep quiet.

bla bla bla bla bla. I thought you said you were a "scientist"? You want me to provide all the scientific peer reviewed papers that support evolution to you? Common boy go do some work. Pseudo scientist don't write peer reviewed papers do they? Present you scientific peer reviewed papers that disproves evolution  and submit it to scientist (NAS) and stop crying like the rejected slowpoke that you are.

Tudór:

Yes noetic where is your evidence to support the farce called creationism?
Mind you evolution isn't the bedrock of atheism the way creationism is the foundation for jesus and his deluded followers. So crap about flaws or loopholes in evolution wouldn't be tolerated! Give us proof!

Actually it is . . . the reason we dont hear you talk about it more often is because:

a. there is actually no concrete proof

b. millions of you dont understand it.

If there was proof for evolution many pple would long have criminalised the teaching of creationism.

bindex:

bla bla bla bla bla. I thought you said you were a "scientist"? You want me to provide all the scientific peer reviewed papers that support evolution to you? Common boy go do some work. Pseudo scientist don't write peer reviewed papers do they? Present you scientific peer reviewed papers that disproves evolution and submit it to scientist (NAS) and stop crying like the rejected slowpoke that you are.

all these is cowardice and unintelligent gibberish. You demand proof for creationism . . . and also demand that i also go help you prove that evolution is correct? What a bunch of confused air heads.

Where are the peer-reviewed articles that BEYOND ANY DOUBT prove evolution? i thot you fools were always blabbing about the "99% of members of NAS" who support evolution . . . surely you must have read a paper or 2. Why dont you show us?

davidylan:

all these is cowardice and unintelligent gibberish. You demand proof for creationism . . . and also demand that i also go help you prove that evolution is correct? What a bunch of confused air heads.

Where are the peer-reviewed articles that BEYOND ANY DOUBT prove evolution? i thot you fools were always blabbing about the "99% of members of NAS" who support evolution . . . surely you must have read a paper or 2. Why dont you show us?

More drivel from the stupid blow hard and air head. You keep crying all the time that you are a "scientist" you want me to show the papers that are available for all that wan to see to get access to? Do some work boy and read them, they are all over the internet. Read them and write your own scientific peer reviewed papers that disproves evolution and submit it to scientist(NAS) after which you will win a Nobel peace price. Stop crying like the deluded and no nothing slowpoke that you are and do some work to disprove the evolution theory that you love to hate.

bindex:

More drivel from the stupid blow hard and air head. You keep crying all the time that you are a "scientist" you want me to show the papers that are available for all that wan to see to get access to? Do some work boy and read them, they are all over the internet. Read them and write your own scientific peer reviewed papers that disproves evolution and submit it to scientist(NAS) after which you will win a Nobel peace price. Stop crying like the deluded and no nothing slowpoke that you are and do some work to disprove the evolution theory that you love to hate.

If these papers are "available for all to see" i wonder why you cant just provide us with one to support your senseless and baseless claims about evolution. There are no papers that "disprove" evolution simply for the fact that there are none that validate evolution!

It makes no sense to produce a technique to differentiate between fake and original $5 notes if an original does not exist in the first place! but of course such logic is lost on fools who pretend they have a brain.

davidylan:

Actually it is . . . the reason we dont hear you talk about it more often is because:

a. there is actually no concrete proof

b. millions of you dont understand it.

If there was proof for evolution many pple would long have criminalised the teaching of creationism.

Is this blow hard serious? Teaching creationism is a crime in public schools in the USA no? . Where is your scientific evidence that supports creationism? Where is your peer reviewed paper that disproves evolution. Will you hurry up and submit your paper to the NAS and stop whining all over the place?  

toneyb:

Is this blow hard serious? Teaching creationism is a crime in public schools in the USA no? . Where is your scientific evidence that supports creationism? Where is your peer reviewed paper that disproves evolution. Will you hurry up and submit your paper to the NAS and stop whining all over the place?  

Note how completely dishonest both questions are:

1. asks for evidence to SUPPORT creationism

2. asks AGAIN for evidence that DISPROVES evolution . . .

but the most important response you will never get from these illiterates?  Evidence that SUPPORTS evolution!

Surely if they had this scientific evidence they would only be too pleased to let us see it and disprove it no? Oh i thot i was speaking to adults who knew what they were talking about.

davidylan:

If these papers are "available for all to see" i wonder why you cant just provide us with one to support your senseless and baseless claims about evolution. There are no papers that "disprove" evolution simply for the fact that there are none that validate evolution!

It makes no sense to produce a technique to differentiate between fake and original $5 notes if an original does not exist in the first place! but of course such logic is lost on fools who pretend they have a brain.

So all the over 200,000 peer reviewed papers and book written about evolution by scientist are baseless eh? Yet accomplished scientist(NAS and other bodies) accept it as a scientific fact leaving  know nothing FOOLS like you out in the cold clutching at the myths of of ancient men and crying at the same time. Will you write your paper that shows that the NAS believe in a baseless claim and submit it to them? What are you afraid of? I thought you said you are a "scientist".  

bindex:

So all the over 200,000 peer reviewed papers and book written about evolution by scientist are baseless eh? Yet accomplished scientist(NAS and other bodies) accept it as a scientific fact leaving  know nothing FOOLS like you out in the cold clutching at the myths of of ancient men and crying at the same time. Will you write your paper that shows that the NAS believe in a baseless claim and submit it to them? What are you afraid of? I thought you said you are a "scientist".  

Again we get the same recycling of this baseless claim. 200,000 peer reviewed papers bla bla bla . . . and YET none of them can produce just one?

Can this ignoramus just tell us in less than 3 sentences what exactly these "scientists" (that only he can identify of course) accept as a fact? Even here in the US most scientists i know of dont accept evolution as anything but a theory.

At least huxley had the balls to produce a few no matter how misguided he was. These foolish footsoldiers of his certainly need a few lessons in how to reason.

Where are the papers supporting evolution as scientific fact? If there is none then what's the point disproving what is essentially nothing but a desperate theory? But of course i dont expect the dumb to understand such theory.

davidylan:

Again we get the same recycling of this baseless claim. 200,000 peer reviewed papers bla bla bla . . . and YET none of them can produce just one?

At least huxley had the balls to produce a few no matter how misguided he was. These foolish footsoldiers of his certainly need a few lessons in how to reason.

Where are the papers supporting evolution as scientific fact? If there is none then what's the point disproving what is essentially nothing but a desperate theory? But of course i dont expect the dumb to understand such theory.

davidylan:

Note how completely dishonest both questions are:

1. asks for evidence to SUPPORT creationism

2. asks AGAIN for evidence that DISPROVES evolution . . .

but the most important response you will never get from these illiterates?  Evidence that SUPPORTS evolution!

Surely if they had this scientific evidence they would only be too pleased to let us see it and disprove it no? Oh i thot i was speaking to adults who knew what they were talking about.

Will you stop foaming in the mouth and provide scientific evidence that support creationism? You keep crying as bindex has said that you are a "scientist" You should be able to provide scientific evidence that support creationism. As for the theory of evolution that scares the shit out of you and keeps giving you sleepless nights, I should expect you to write a scientific peer reviewed that disproves all the scientific papers that accomplished scientist have written.

Write a peer reviewed paper that disprove all the claims of the NAS and let them know how wrong they are in accepting evolution as a scientific fact. Only then will I take you as a serious person that knows what he is talking about. Stop whining and crying and do that.

davidylan:

Again we get the same recycling of this baseless claim. 200,000 peer reviewed papers bla bla bla . . . and YET none of them can produce just one?

Can this ignoramus just tell us in less than 3 sentences what exactly these "scientists" (that only he can identify of course) accept as a fact? Even here in the US most scientists i know of dont accept evolution as anything but a theory.

At least huxley had the balls to produce a few no matter how misguided he was. These foolish footsoldiers of his certainly need a few lessons in how to reason.

Where are the papers supporting evolution as scientific fact? If there is none then what's the point disproving what is essentially nothing but a desperate theory? But of course i dont expect the dumb to understand such theory.

This ridiculous fool keeps crying for us to show him the papers? The papers are all over the net you can google them up. Are you that lazy? Boy do some work. and after you have found them write a paper that disprove them as scientific facts and send it to the NAS. I am not talking about you and your fellow pseudo scientist I am talking about the member of the NAS. Write your scientific paper and submit it to them. Deluded slowpoke.

toneyb:

Will you stop foaming in the mouth and provide scientific evidence that support creationism? You keep crying as bindex has said that you are a "scientist" You should be able to provide scientific evidence that support creationism. As for the theory of evolution that scares the shit out of you and keeps giving you sleepless nights, I should expect you to write a scientific peer reviewed that this prove all the scientific papers that accomplished scientist have written.

Write a peer reviewed paper that disprove all the claims of the NAS and let them know how wrong they are in accepting evolution as a scientific fact. Only then will I take you as a serious person that knows what he is talking about. Stop whining and crying and do that.

i'm not even close to foaming in the mouth. That would be a waste of time with airheads like you.

Simple logic - if you ask that i provide scientific evidence that supports creationism then i would expect that you would provide scientific evidence to support the alternative which is evolution. I wonder why this is a hugely impossible task for you. I wonder why the burden of proof for creationism AND evolution shld rest on the shoulders of the christian. What then does the atheist believe?

There is no point writing a peer reviewed paper to disprove evolution . . . the fact that NONE OF YOU proponents of evolution can point to JUST ONE paper that conclusively proves evolution is evidence on its own that evolution is nothing but a silly theory and man's excuse to throw away the bible.

bindex:

This ridiculous fool keeps crying for us to show him the papers? The papers are all over the net you can google them up. Are you that lazy? Boy do some work. and after you have found them write a paper that disprove them as scientific facts and send it to the NAS. I am not talking about you and your fellow pseudo scientist I am talking about the member of the NAS. Write your scientific paper and submit it to them. Deluded slowpoke.

what is more ridiculous is that you've made at least 5-6 posts on this issue and still have not been able to find us these one peer review paper out of your 200,000. surely there must be one that is the holy grail for evolution no?

Its not hard to find a paper that shows conclusive proof on gravity . . . why is that on evolution so hard?

Papers are all over the internet and you cant just produce 1? What a joke of an individual these fools are.

noetic2:

u keep ranting endlessly. when have u ever defended the ridiculous concept called evolution? 

I don't defend it blindly. I agree it's not perfect but it MIGHT contain clues to our origins.
You on the other hand swear to the accuracy of creation. So tell me WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATIONISM?

Tudór:

I don't defend it blindly. I agree it's not perfect but it MIGHT contain clues to our origins.
You on the other hand swear to the accuracy of creation. So tell me WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATIONISM?

it "might" contain clues to our origin? So you have no idea what evolution is but you think it is more valid than creationism? you sir live a confused life.

Tudór:

I don't defend it blindly. I agree it's not perfect but it MIGHT contain clues to our origins.
You on the other hand swear to the accuracy of creation. So tell me WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATIONISM?

so this is the basis of the IGNORANCE u have been ejaculating. . .too bad

davidylan:

what is more ridiculous is that you've made at least 5-6 posts on this issue and still have not been able to find us these one peer review paper out of your 200,000. surely there must be one that is the holy grail for evolution no?

Its not hard to find a paper that shows conclusive proof on gravity . . . why is that on evolution so hard?

Papers are all over the internet and you cant just produce 1? What a joke of an individual these fools are.

Are your sure you have a brain? If I present the papers to you all you can do is will attack it and try to show how wrong it is without even knowing what it says at all, but what you will NEVER do is write a paper to the author of the peer reviewed article and show him how wrong he is. All you can do is cry foul on nairaland on evolution because it gives you sleepless nights and pricks you all the time but you will never cry foul to the writer of the peer reviewed article and his peers. m_nwanko has provided some peer reviewed articles on the other thread to which you only cried about it on nairaland and never wrote your own peer reviewed paper to the author and all his peers showing them how wrong they are. If you were really a scientist I would have provided them to you, but since you are not one I don't have time to waste on a cry baby that only wants to engage non scientist and never wants to engage accomplished scientist when talking about evolution. Stupid and know nothing blow hard.

You still haven't provided any evidence for creationism. What kind of "scientist" are you?

OK, I can see that our creationist foaming in the mouth and crying all over the place. OK evolution is wrong, what are the evidence the scientific evidence that support creationism?  Please provide them.

davidylan:

it "might" contain clues to our origin? So you have no idea what evolution is but you think it is more valid than creationism? you sir live a confused life.

Ofcourse i don't claim to know all like you jesus goons. I'am open to new and different ideas, that isn't confusion but a willingness to learn. You keep making it sound like if you don't accept creation then you must be an evolutionist.- this is just a cowardly fail safe option for you to fall back on when queried about creation.
Bad news, not everyone completely accepts evolution but we are mindful of the fact it might hold valuable clues as to our origin.

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATION? {why do you keep dodging this question?}

noetic2:

so this is the basis of the IGNORANCE u have been ejaculating. . .too bad 

What is the meaning of this??
Mr enlightend one WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATION??

Tudór:

What is the meaning of this??
Mr enlightend one WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATION??

when was the last time u read genesis 1 and 2? that u find a fact untenable does not make it less an evidence.

WHERE IS UR EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION?. . .thou pathetic illiterate.