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Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 10:11pm On Apr 27, 2007
Another appeal in the house.
After the long wait, i picked up my application today and was refused but with a right to appeal.
Those folks are very funny,just one single reason for denial.
what do i do?and what immediate steps do i take for appeal
I want to join the league of the success story on nairaland with prayers.

Responses plz.Nid to appeal asap.whatz the next step?

omojeje
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 11:35pm On Apr 27, 2007
First off, what was the reason/s for your refusal?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 11:40pm On Apr 27, 2007
@VOR
In summary,the ECO is not satisfied that my sponsor is the sole signatory to the company account he submitted as evidence of funds to the applicant.What do i do now.

Or do i type verbatim the refusal letter on nairaland asap.

omojeje
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 11:50pm On Apr 27, 2007
He also mentioned paragraph 57 was not met and he was not satisfied on the balance of probabilites,because he is not satisfied that my sponsor is the sole signatory to the statement of account he submitted as evidence of funds.

I will type the full text on nairaland 2morow and explain my circumstance here on this thread.I dont have the refusal letter with me here.

cheers
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by muyiwabank(m): 8:27am On Apr 28, 2007
i just came in today to read fukybaby and ainkay's story, i think its worth celebrating.

well i will say thank you to everybody that is making this happen here especially my ogas; Akolawole,Vor;Londoncool,mrpataki.

i believe all cases of appeal can be solved here without anybody contacting visa agents.

wish all appelants all the best.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 7:21pm On Apr 28, 2007
This is the refusal letter.

UKvisas and the BDHC Lagos provides information to visa applicants about the types of documents they will be required to produce so that they can demonstrate to the visa officer that they meet the requirements of the immigration rules.We advise applicants that the failure to submit such documentation may result in refusal of the application.This decision has been made on the basis of the evidence you have supplied.The onus is on applicants to demonstrate that they meet the requirements of the relevant rules.You have declared that the information you have provided is complete and true to the best of your knowledge.

You have applied for an entry clearance to the United kingdom as a student and have completed an additional questionnaire to assist your application.I have carefully considered your application on the basis of your passport,application form,supplementary questionnaire and the papers you have provided.It has not been necessary to interview you in order to reach a decision.In considering your application overall,I am not satisfied on the balance of probabilities,that you meet the requirements of paragraph 57 of the immifration rules HC395.

You state that the cost of your tuition,maintenance and accomodation is to be borne by your uncle MR LAGBAJA AND TAMEDU, As evidence of his funds you have submitted a business bank statement.No evidence has been provided of regular income and outgoing or financial committments of your sponsor;nor is there any evidence that the funds in the business bank account would be available for purposes other than that of the business.I am not satisfied,therefore that these funds will be made available to pay for your private studies in the UK as required by paragraph 57(vi) of HC 395.

Following careful consideration of the documentary evidence provided,I am not satisfied on the balance of probabilities that you are able to meet the cost of the course and maintain and accomodate yourself without recourse to full time employment or public funds as required by paragraph 57(vi) HC 395.

I therefore refuse your application.


That is the refusal letter.

What do I do next.Where do i stsrt from?

thanx
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bumpyjohn(m): 7:41pm On Apr 28, 2007
@
omojeje,
the bank documents you submmitted whose name is it?
i am asking because i have been refused like this once,but when i reapplied it was granted to me.
if you dont mind my e-mail addy is cruxifixoy2k@yahoo.com, u can create a time so that we chat and i will put yu through in my own little way
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 10:39am On Apr 30, 2007
The bank statement was in my sponsor's company name,with a letter from the two banks stating that he is the sole signatory to the accounts.

How do i go about the appeal based on the single ground i was been refused.

Thanx.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 1:25pm On Apr 30, 2007
@ Omojeje,

So sorry about your refusal. I really feel your plight. For one, there are three things that could be done as to your case quickly.

1. To either consider an appeal which might take time,

2. To either consider having an internal consideration to your case, OR,

3. To either re-apply, addressing the issue the ECO raised subjectively.


Which would you want to do?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 4:05pm On Apr 30, 2007
omojeje:

The bank statement was in my sponsor's company name,with a letter from the two banks stating that he is the sole signatory to the accounts.

How do i go about the appeal based on the single ground i was been refused.

Thanx.

Jeje sorry to hear your news. Is this your second refusal because you posted another refusal letter in February which is different from this one.

This particular refusal is in my opinion down to two factors.

1. They are not satisfied with your sponsors financilal ability to fund you based on the account and evidence you submitted.
2. Even if the account funds were satisfactory you have been unable to show that those funds would be available for
your use.

I addressed point two in a previous post to you, have a look at it here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=40828.msg912356#msg912356

You really have to remedy these points should you consider an appeal or re-application.
I'm not sure what Mr Pataki meant by having an "internal consideration" of your case.

Good luck.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 5:44pm On Apr 30, 2007
@mrpataki

@ d moment,i dont understand what u mean by "internal consideration".
Also this is my second refusal and all things been equal 'cetaris paribus',I would like to appeal the refusal.

Pls cld u shed more light.

Thanx

Omojeje
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 5:50pm On Apr 30, 2007
@VOR

Yes,i remembered u mentioned it,but the company is not a LTD coy,so i did ignore it as you said.

what is the next step,as I believe reapplying shows I am not confident on my documents to face scrutiny @ AIT in UK.They could refuse it again,av lost confidence in them,the contextual expression of the ECO in the refusal letter was not straight forward,he kept on beating around the bush,and repeating the same thing,haven known my case is genuine and meet the requirements of paragraph 57.

VOR,what next?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 7:03pm On May 01, 2007
how do i go about the appeal,b4 time runs out
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 11:29pm On May 01, 2007
Jeje

Basically you have to rebut the claim of the ECO.

As I said the refusal appears to be based on two grounds.
The fact that your sponsor hasn't shown he has the means
to sponsor your education and that the money in the business
account can be used for your education.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 12:02am On May 02, 2007
Thanx.
The sponsor has provided the following in the refused application:

wema bank statement- about N9.3 MILLION with bankers letter stating d sponsor as the sole signatory
ecobank statement - about N400,000 with bankers letter stating d sponsor as the sole signatory
registration of business name
sponsor letter
share certificates
land documents with C of O
tax clearance cert
Value added tax cert
fixed deposit letter (ecobank N800,000)
certificate of business registration
end of year reports and accounts (from chartered accountant) 2003,2004,2005
land registration documents

And also remember that d coy is not a limited company.

The the sponsor has stated in his sponsor's letter to the ECO that he does not have a personal account in his name based on security reasons and the bank has confirmed availability of funds through the bank letter.

Now dont you feel the ECO has really erredbased on his remarks,comments in the refusal letter.

Now what am saying is that what ground do I appeal,as my the ECO cannot determine if the funds will be availalbe or nor,and the sponsor can decide what to do with his money.

Tuition fee-£3,900
deposit paid-£600
Balance-£3,300

Accomodation- already sorted (to live with the sponsor's son who is my first cousin,which has reduced the expenses)-documents were submitted to ascertain this.

I need to prepare an appeal letter.

I need contributions pls
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 12:04am On May 02, 2007
Jeje

Check your e-mail.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 9:11am On May 02, 2007
check your email as well
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 7:53pm On May 02, 2007
OK @ VOR & Omojeje,
Internal consideration is something that is not regularly included in the books. It comes as having an intermediary who takes up your case with the ECO or better still the ECM for a reconsideration. It is faster than the appeal, but most people do not know about it.

Just incase you have supplement documents you do want to include in your application after the refusal, you can include it. Dont have too much knowledge on it, but it has worked perfectly for some though.

Even though there are times, it could be outrightly refused, you can then go on with the appeal.

Basically it is faster than the appeal, and it is only peeps who have a relationship with the ECOs or ECM that can handle it with them effectively.

To your case, I think you could go on with the appeal. But I must say the AIT have loads and loads of student refusal cases at the moment that it is rather slow handling student visa refusals at the moment.

Awaiting further questions.
Thank You.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 11:19pm On May 02, 2007
mrpataki:

OK @ VOR & Omojeje,
Internal consideration is something that is not regularly included in the books. It comes as having an intermediary who takes up your case with the ECO or better still the ECM for a reconsideration. It is faster than the appeal, but most people do not know about it.

Just incase you have supplement documents you do want to include in your application after the refusal, you can include it. Dont have too much knowledge on it, but it has worked perfectly for some though.

Even though there are times, it could be outrightly refused, you can then go on with the appeal.

Basically it is faster than the appeal, and it is only peeps who have a relationship with the ECOs or ECM that can handle it with them effectively.

To your case, I think you could go on with the appeal. But I must say the AIT have loads and loads of student refusal cases at the moment that it is rather slow handling student visa refusals at the moment.

Awaiting further questions.
Thank You.

Mr Pataki,

What you have described is nothing more than making further representations.
Anyone can do this it doesn't have to be an intermidiary.
Jeje him/herself can even do it. All he/she has to be mindful of is that
the ECOs original reason for refusing the visa is rebutted and then asking that the
case be reconsidered.
As you said even if this approach is unsuccessful the appeal can still go forward.
In fact there is nothing to stop an applicant asking for a reconsideration and filing
the appeal at the same time.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 12:10pm On May 03, 2007
@mrpataki and VOR
Looking my present circumstances as stated earlier on,how can I rebut the reasons for refusal?
what other documents can my sponsor add to supplement the application.

Thanx
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 4:10pm On May 03, 2007
@ VOR,
Thanks for the enlightment and knowledge shared again.


@ Omojeje,
PLease give me a little while, have to study your refusal and give you some points to make as your ground of objections.
By tomorrow afternoon, will get back to you.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 7:11pm On May 03, 2007
@mrpataki

ok.pls get across to me if you need any detailed information that may help.
i need to prepare the grounds asap.

Thanx
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by dada77: 7:57pm On May 04, 2007
progress plzz!
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 7:59pm On May 04, 2007
@mrpataki and VOR
I am expecting your response asap.

@dada77
how far with ur wify dependant visa
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 8:50pm On May 04, 2007
@ Omojeje,
Looking at your appeal, I would say you have some grounds of appeal, which in most cases still happens to be default of most cases of student visa application.

HAving considered it though, I must say the ECO was right in his own views but the given the evidence laid before the ECO, your ground of objection should lie in the fact that at no point in time did the ECO find your application spurious or not genuine. Rather if the ECO had objections to the point that how sure was he that the funds would be available for your studies, he shouls have made enquiries. I believe your uncle gave his contact address in your application, therefore the ECO should have made enquiries as to that fact of sponsorship claim by your uncle.

I once handled an application similar to yours two years ago, we had to appeal against the decision, the guy is studying at the moment in Uni of Greenwich.

For further enquiries, I will send you a mail now.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 9:04pm On May 04, 2007
@mrpataki

Thanx as I expect ur detailed e-mail and format of presentation to AIT .

Cheers
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 9:20pm On May 04, 2007
ok I will send you a format of presentation now.
Please hang on.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 9:28pm On May 04, 2007
Sent it.
Please check you email.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by omojeje: 9:40pm On May 04, 2007
thanx.
will b expecting d student appeal letter 2morow as you said.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 11:22am On May 05, 2007
Sent it now.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by presjany(f): 5:39pm On May 05, 2007
Londoncool, mrpataki & Akolawale, Thanks so much 4 your very useful contribution in this forum. I have a similar case.

I applied for a student visa(precisely with London Metropolitan University Admission letter - MSc, Plastic Product design, Feb. session) in Dec. 2006, and I was refused entry. Actaully, I only paid accommodation deposit to the school b/c I didn't really want to go to the school. My intention was to go there, hussle 4 about 6 months, and go for an Oil and gas -related course in Sept. 2007.Then I was refused entry, Reasons:

 They doubted my ability to follow the course owing to the fact that I'm a banker, they said I didn't give enough reason for the change of career path.

 That My sponsor didn't show evidence of how the funds came in. also that I was an additional load to him.
This occurrence has created a phobia in me as regards UK embassy.

 Now I'm at it again. I've gotten an admission for the actual course I wish to read, and I've made complete provision for my fees this time around, I intend to pay fully b/4 going for a visa, but I really don't know how to clear this issue of reconciling my present job with my academic pursuit.

 And I need to know what kind of evidence to show for my sponsor's funds, I used his personal account, but his sponsorship letter was on his company's  letter-headed paper. Please help me out. I need to start School this October unfailingly!!!!!!!!
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 12:26pm On May 06, 2007
presjany:

Londoncool, mrpataki & Akolawale, Thanks so much 4 your very useful contribution in this forum. I have a similar case.

I applied for a student visa(precisely with London Metropolitan University Admission letter - MSc, Plastic Product design, Feb. session) in Dec. 2006, and I was refused entry. Actaully, I only paid accommodation deposit to the school b/c I didn't really want to go to the school. My intention was to go there, hussle 4 about 6 months, and go for an Oil and gas -related course in Sept. 2007.Then I was refused entry, Reasons:

They doubted my ability to follow the course owing to the fact that I'm a banker, they said I didn't give enough reason for the change of career path.

That My sponsor didn't show evidence of how the funds came in. also that I was an additional load to him.
This occurrence has created a phobia in me as regards UK embassy.

Now I'm at it again. I've gotten an admission for the actual course I wish to read, and I've made complete provision for my fees this time around, I intend to pay fully b/4 going for a visa, but I really don't know how to clear this issue of reconciling my present job with my academic pursuit.

And I need to know what kind of evidence to show for my sponsor's funds, I used his personal account, but his sponsorship letter was on his company's letter-headed paper. Please help me out. I need to start School this October unfailingly!!!!!!!!
@ presjany,

Well what relationship does your sponsor have with you? What kind of work does he do? Is your sponsor the owner of the company? The ECO has good reasons for refusal really.
Take a look at it I can as well come with a letterhead paper stating I work with Shell Plc and a fat account in my bank, as you stated your sponsor has done. But truth be said, if you tender this application, you have a high proclivity for refusal.
What other supporting documents is your uncle dropping? Does your sponsor have a letter showing his appointment with the company he is working with? Does he have payslips, utility bills, tax clearance certificate and the rest.

It is more than just the account present in the bank for the last three months, but a lot more.
Dont loose faith though. I have seen the case of a man who applied with pratically NOTHING in the bank account and was given though. Miracles do happen. It could also happen to you too
Have a blessed Sunday

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