Ayo001:
I did not make any sh!t up. Go and do your home work.

Homework? Lol

Funniest sh$t ever said.

Their family street is Agbon arogbo, Ifofin area. Ilesa east local Govt. While his mom is from Erin ijesha, Oriade local government. Both in Osun state.

Ayo001:
Aregbe's dad is an uncle to your mom ? Nice. Kindly mention their family street in ilesa.

In other words, get your facts right.

kayfra:


Homework? Lol

Funniest sh$t ever said.

santafe:
Maybe by the time everyone dies of hunger in the state.Ghost will use the new roads

let them know oo abeg

Ayo001:
In other words, get your facts right.

If you did not get a clue from my incredulous laughter then I'll let it rest.

I'm neither Aregbe troll nor Pdp loyalist. I'm just a regular guy. I was just trying to clear the air that u lied, I doubt it if u can make any move again as u have been cornered. So keep ur lips seal if u don't knw what u're saying

OBAGADAFFI:


Duh,

Like i said earlier,

I am Done talking to you Aregbe trolls.

You are just mixing stuff up and that shows you don't understand what you are saying. His mom came from that street called Ogbon arugbo not elsewhere. Again, Governor Aregbesola is from Kogi state (Igbira side). Go compare his looks to that of an average Igbira man.

lakesidepapa:
Their family street is Agbon arogbo, Ifofin area. Ilesa east local Govt. While his mom is from Erin ijesha, Oriade local government. Both in Osun state.

Yes it's Ogbon arogbo. It seems this argument is going extremely somewhere. Everyone knows Aregbe is an Ijesha man and i also gave u the fact as i told u how he's related to me but u're still making the wrong move. I'm done with this Mr Ayo, Today is Monday.

Ayo001:
You are just mixing stuff up and that shows you don't understand what you are saying. His mom came from that street called Ogbon arugbo not elsewhere. Again, Governor Aregbesola is a from Kogi state and from Igbira side. Go compare his looks to that of an average Igbira man.

Johnnyessence:
abi ooo

but on the other side too,I want to ask dis.What is the reason behind Aregbesola not paying for students in tertiary institutn bursary every year.

I'm not arguing with you and it's Ogbon Arugbo...not arogbo. I stated the truth known by ijesha people.

lakesidepapa:
Yes it's Ogbon arogbo. It seems this argument is going extremely somewhere. Everyone knows Aregbe is an Ijesha man and i also gave u the fact as i told u how he's related to me but u're still making the wrong move. I'm done with this Mr Ayo, Today is Monday.

Ayo001:
I'm not arguing with you and it's Ogbon Arugbo...not arogbo. I stated the truth known by ijesha people.

I guess they side tracked his relatives. Smdh

No bro. Omisore once said he could have himself and few people gone to meet the governor's family members maybe they could talk to him about some of his policies but the real ones are nowhere to be found. Such a wicked, liar (blaming Jonathan) and heartless he-goat looking man. I wonder why people can't storm the governor's office and chase the wasteful spender out.

kayfra:


I guess they side tracked his relatives. Smdh

lakesidepapa:
I'm neither Aregbe troll nor Pdp loyalist. I'm just a regular guy. I was just trying to clear the air that u lied, I doubt it if u can make any move again as u have been cornered. So keep ur lips seal if u don't knw what u're saying

Duh !!!

Cornered ko Shekona ni.

You probably think, i am one of those that fight for NL best comment award.

I have made my comment and that all.

Next time don't join quote uninvited .

we don't need to say it more.. U're a supporter/fans of Pdp/omisore and we understand the hatred u have for aregbe. This goes by what u said that the man is from kogi, it's all about politricks

Ayo001:
No bro. Omisore once said he could have himself and few people gone to meet the governor's family members maybe they could talk to him about some of his policies but the real ones are nowhere to be found. Such a wicked, liar (blaming Jonathan) and heartless he-goat looking man. I wonder why people can't storm the governor's office and chase the wasteful spender out.

I hate it when someone is lieing for the sake of banishing the name of someone. U lied, Yes Or No?

OBAGADAFFI:


Duh !!!

Cornered ko Shekona ni.

You probably think, i am one of those that fight for NL best comment award.

I have made my comment and that all.

Next time don't join quote uninvited .

Not a supporter of PDP, we know Oyinlola embezzled money but the masses didn't pass through the current type of hardship during his regime.

lakesidepapa:
we don't need to say it more.. U're a supporter/fans of Pdp/omisore and we understand the hatred u have for aregbe. This goes by what u said that the man is from kogi, it's all about politricks

Do u realized that same Oyinlola is now in APC? Even omisore u are talking about, the money he embezzled when he was a senator is a child play to what Oyin embezzled(all the constituency money) and am very sure thing would be worst had it been he won the last governorship election. Pm me, we may have bottles of beers at back of first bank at round about.

Ayo001:
Not a supporter of PDP, we know Oyinlola embezzled money but the masses didn't pass through the current type of hardship during his regime.

None of them is innocent. Just that when hunger enters pesin stomach, nothing dey make sense. . Na infrastructure the masses go chop ? They are all thieves but at least pay your workers even if it's once in two months. Doing that, money will get to market people. May God help us. I know that side for first bank roundabout na. Used to chop hot pounded-yam at the back of the bank. I will contact you when I'm around.

lakesidepapa:
Do u realized that same Oyinlola is now in APC? Even omisore u are talking about, the money he embezzled when he was a senator is a child play to what Oyin embezzled(all the constituency money) and am very sure thing would be worst had it been he won the last governorship election. Pm me, we may have bottles of beers at back of first bank at round about.

They are all thieves, just that their each everyone of them own have grades, including uncle Rauf. No problem, anytime.

Ayo001:
None of them is innocent. Just that when hunger enters pesin stomach, nothing dey make sense. . Na infrastructure the masses go chop ? They are all thieves but at least pay your workers even if it's once in two months. Doing that, money will get to market people. May God help us. I know that side for first bank roundabout na. Used to chop hot pounded-yam at the back of the bank. I will contact you when I'm around.

Kylexy3000:
can you gladly tell me what osun depend on??

I think the start should be that you need to reassess the erroneous assumption that the economy of Osun state depends on salaries of civil servants. I will wonder how you came about that. But better still If you stay on that position, don't you think it's high time we moved away from this dependent and risky position to a commerce based economy in Osun state? With all the vast arable lands in Osun, the share number of human capital in farmers, artisans, various skilled workers, bulk traders and retailers, should this not be the stimulant to an economy rather than salaries?

You should then understand the nexus between Aregbe's project in schools, roads and agric

Kylexy3000:
We all know the importance of good roads, you made mention of hard decisions and prices....prices to be paid in detriment of people's income... And also i'll like to remember you the factors that attract industries...we have good roads and also among these factors is availability of market.. Who will purchase your goods when there is no income for the mass.??

I think we're getting closer to agreement on few things, but let me clarify some things

1. Unfortunately people will have to pay the price for some of the wrong decisions before Aregbe's government. For example, Oyinlola took a loan to build 3 "world-class stadia" in each senatorial district. Even if he had built it, what would it have done for Osun? But the people did not see anything wrong in it, and could not see that these are contributors to the future current state.

2. When the orientation of my folks at home is to graduate (At school cert, Grade II & I, NCE and BSc)and join the civil service, then we are simply populating an overstretched workforce. The share number of workforce in Osun state local government alone is ridiculous. I have a brother-in-law, a young lad that finished his master in Engineering in UI, yet went to join the Local government. His wife a medical doctor also works for the state. These are young lads that I believe are "wasting" away, when they can bury their head in the sand and "hustle" in more challenging terrain. When Baba Akande was governor and looked at his monthly allocation which could hardly support the work-force, he started a prunning exercise, which was based on certain criteria (For example teachers of Maths, English, Science, Commercial subjects were retained and those of Yoruba, CRK risked being laid off) they called for his head, abused him that he was just a chartered accountant, butdid not have a degree....... fast forward todate, and may be you can draw a nexus between the WAEC performance of Osun students today and the share number of teachers we have.....

3. With regards to industry, first off, the volumes will definitely not be bought in Osun alone, definitely bulk of it will be locally exported to mass market states. There are various value offering to industrialisation. What Osun has currently are these; (a) Vast Arable Land (b) Access via land and Rail (c) Availability of relatively cheap labour (d) Enabling environment (e) Close Proximity to mass markets (Lagos, Ogun and Oyo on the wester flank & Kwara-Niger on the northern flank). Imagine 4 mega factories of an average of 2-3 thousand workforce per factory, where people know they can earn per the volume of work, do you think people will not ditch their useless civil service jobs at the prospect of earning way much more?

olafotad:

That's one of the simple truth that will ever remain 'childish tantrum' that many idiots will never understand. How can a state develop when we don't trust our artisans ? How can we move forward when we solely depend foreigners to help us ?
The question is quite simple and not far fetched. We want to build a house and we go as far as Lagos to hire contractor, the question is ; are there no contractors in our state ? I know you would reply that they are not competent.
Aregbesola has failed us and there is no way to say otherwise. Although we voted for him, he has failed us !
Civil servants and retirees are dying everyday because of his economic policies.
I have a lot to say but will not leave my work to comment on what everyone knows.

Are there no contractors in Nigeria that we went to give contracts of Federal Roads and Bridges to Julius Berger, CCEC, Arab Contractors and the likes?

Yes let's talk about competence, please name the notable local contractors in Osun state that can do projects of such magnitude? It's simply a matter of logic and choice. Aregbesola was a commissioner in Lagos, he had contractors that worked with him and are proven. He's probably oblivious of those contractors in Osun, if any.......

But what is at the heart of this discussion for me, is that we have a departure from the orientation where critical state infrastructure projects are awarded on compensation grounds to indigens.

OBAGADAFFI:



You probably mistaken local government(Ifelodun) in kwara with local government(Ifelodun) in Osun.

Lets make it easy for you it is called Ikirun.

Done talking to you.

Bros, I maintain that you're a bloody liar. I have been going to Ikirun since the mid 80s

mapet:


Are there no contractors in Nigeria that we went to give contracts of Federal Roads and Bridges to Julius Berger, CCEC, Arab Contractors and the likes?

Yes let's talk about competence, please name the notable local contractors in Osun state that can do projects of such magnitude? It's simply a matter of logic and choice. Aregbesola was a commissioner in Lagos, he had contractors that worked with him and are proven. He's probably oblivious of those contractors in Osun, if any.......

But what is at the heart of this discussion for me, is that we have a departure from the orientation where critical state infrastructure projects are awarded on compensation grounds to indigens.

That is where I disagree with you ! we have more competent contractors in Osun. Getting contractor from Lagos is a way of syphoning Osun money to Lagos through his allies whom you said he had worked with while he was the commissioner of work in Lagos state.
Picture this : people are paying taxes, allocation is coming for the central government but none of this funds is staying in the state. The consequence of this would be economy downturn as we have in the present day in Osun. Furthermore, civil servants whose salaries should be a link by which people (who might not be civil servants) derive economic benefits are not been paid promptly/fully.

olafotad:

That is where I disagree with you ! we have more competent contractors in Osun. Getting contractor from Lagos is a way of syphoning Osun money to Lagos through his allies whom you said he had worked with while he was the commissioner of work in Lagos state.
Picture this : people are paying taxes, allocation is coming for the central government but none of this funds is staying in the state. The consequence of this would be economy downturn as we have in the present day in Osun. Furthermore, civil servants whose salaries should be a link by which people (who might not be civil servants) derive economic benefits are not been paid promptly/fully.

1. I do not doubt if we have contractors in Osun (my cousin "was" a government contractor under Oyinlola), What I doubt is if we have contractors of the expected magnitude to execute the projects at the levels set by the government. How is getting contractors tantamount to siphoning money to Lagos? You people just regurgitate some illogic reasoning. I still state that the important thing is getting the job done very well and not a choice between Osun-based or Lagos-based contractors.

2. Allocation of funds and taxes are not leaving Osun. First off Osun's State allocation is of no consequence to the economy of Lagos, if we go by your assumptions. Lagos Island and Alimosho Locals Govt could dwarf the whole of Osun in IGR and worker head count. Secondly,, you will need to also review orientation wrt contractors, are you looking at contracts as one of the ways of sharing national cake or infrastructure development with a potential of boosting commerce. Osun state if not careful will simply be a consumer/rent collecting state.

3. The bold as emotional as it is, is also perception going south developmental wise. The other players in the states are not supposed to depend on civil servant's salaries. They do make money and can hazard a guess that some make more than the civil servants

mapet:


1. I do not doubt if we have contractors in Osun (my cousin "was" a government contractor under Oyinlola), What I doubt is if we have contractors of the expected magnitude to execute the projects at the levels set by the government. How is getting contractors tantamount to siphoning money to Lagos? You people just regurgitate some illogic reasoning. I still state that the important thing is getting the job done very well and not a choice between Osun-based or Lagos-based contractors.

2. Allocation of funds and taxes are not leaving Osun. First off Osun's State allocation is of no consequence to the economy of Lagos, if we go by your assumptions. Lagos Island and Alimosho Locals Govt could dwarf the whole of Osun in IGR and worker head count. Secondly,, you will need to also review orientation wrt contractors, are you looking at contracts as one of the ways of sharing national cake or infrastructure development with a potential of boosting commerce. Osun state if not careful will simply be a consumer/rent collecting state.

3. The bold as emotional as it is, is also perception going south developmental wise. The other players in the states are not supposed to depend on civil servant's salaries. They do make money and can hazard a guess that some make more than the civil servants

Take it or leave it.... Lagos contractors are not from heaven. And I am still on the point that we can do even better ! I have seen situations where Lagos contractors hire those ones here to execute project for them.
Furthermore, I believe that you should have more idea about how money get to people through the government and vice versa. Artisans cannot live alone with having people to buy their products and about 70 of Osun workers are government workers. so tell me how they will have sales when salaries are not been paid . This is what we see everyday. I live in Osun and I see this myself.
It was bad to the level of transporting sand from Lagos to Osun for building schools. Are there no sand in Osun or is it that those ones here are so bad ?
All I can say is that you probably are not living in Osun or you are so ignorant of how governance should be .

mapet:


I think the start should be that you need to reassess the erroneous assumption that the economy of Osun state depends on salaries of civil servants. I will wonder how you came about that. But better still If you stay on that position, don't you think it's high time we moved away from this dependent and risky position to a commerce based economy in Osun state? With all the vast arable lands in Osun, the share number of human capital in farmers, artisans, various skilled workers, bulk traders and retailers, should this not be the stimulant to an economy rather than salaries?

You should then understand the nexus between Aregbe's project in schools, roads and agric

i like this point of view..GOOD

ernesty20:
Na road we go chop? Mtchwwww

But you jokes jump for joy and celebrate every time wike or obiango do ordinary road inspection.

Hate and hypocrisy no go kill you hate, bitter and enemy of progress people..

aresa:



But you jokes jump for joy and celebrate every time wike or obiango do ordinary road inspection.

Hate and hypocrisy no go kill you hate, bitter and enemy of progress people..

when did i jump? I dnt jump when a politician does his primary asignment. After all na our money them dey take do am

olafotad:

Take it or leave it.... Lagos contractors are not from heaven. And I am still on the point that we can do even better ! I have seen situations where Lagos contractors hire those ones here to execute project for them.
Furthermore, I believe that you should have more idea about how money get to people through the government and vice versa. Artisans cannot live alone with having people to buy their products and about 70 of Osun workers are government workers. so tell me how they will have sales when salaries are not been paid . This is what we see everyday. I live in Osun and I see this myself.
It was bad to the level of transporting sand from Lagos to Osun for building schools. Are there no sand in Osun or is it that those ones here are so bad ?
All I can say is that you probably are not living in Osun or you are so ignorant of how governance should be .

1. I do not distinguish who is "Lagos contractor" or "Osun Contractor" you did. What I do know is that contractors are short-listed and those with proven records get the jobs. For example the Airport project was given to the Airforce Engineering unit, which to me is a demonstration of awarding sensitive project to those that are proven.

2. Argument of "Lagos contractors are not from heaven" am afraid, sounds, like inferiority complex issue. If you're looking at what contractors does a project as a yardstick of goverment performance, then I am afraid, the likes of you are living in denial

3. The view that government needs to pass money to the people through salaries, as a priviso to stimulate the economy is limited. Don't get me wrong, Salaries are wages, and it is the responsibility of the employer (government) to pay the employed(workers). But we in Osun needs to move beyond this mentality. Economy is stimulated by government facilitating enabling environment for business growth, so that in the long run, government can increase their IGR. Don't you know that if Osun has IGR in the region of 6-7billion a month, it will be less dependent on the federal government? When Obasanjo withheld Lagos State allocation for almost 2years, Lagos State government was not only able to move on, salaries were never delayed. The reason is that when Tinubu was government, he went on an aggressive drive to increase commerce which had a multiplier effect on internal revenue generation.

4. So when I got to the bolded above, I cannot but laff

mapet:


1. I do not distinguish who is "Lagos contractor" or "Osun Contractor" you did. What I do know is that contractors are short-listed and those with proven records get the jobs. For example the Airport project was given to the Airforce Engineering unit, which to me is a demonstration of awarding sensitive project to those that are proven.

2. Argument of "Lagos contractors are not from heaven" am afraid, sounds, like inferiority complex issue. If you're looking at what contractors does a project as a yardstick of goverment performance, then I am afraid, the likes of you are living in denial

3. The view that government needs to pass money to the people through salaries, as a priviso to stimulate the economy is limited. Don't get me wrong, Salaries are wages, and it is the responsibility of the employer (government) to pay the employed(workers). But we in Osun needs to move beyond this mentality. Economy is stimulated by government facilitating enabling environment for business growth, so that in the long run, government can increase their IGR. Don't you know that if Osun has IGR in the region of 6-7billion a month, it will be less dependent on the federal government? When Obasanjo withheld Lagos State allocation for almost 2years, Lagos State government was not only able to move on, salaries were never delayed. The reason is that when Tinubu was government, he went on an aggressive drive to increase commerce which had a multiplier effect on internal revenue generation.

4. So when I got to the bolded above, I cannot but laff

Whenever I see write-ups like this, there is this crucial question that keeps begging for answers in my mind. The question is : can Africa or Nigeria move forward ? When people who ought to think out of the box and develop our political theories join the band wagon.
1.First and foremost, been inferior is when you are not proud of what you have. There is no doubt that some are better than others, it however becomes foolishness when you neglect what you have because you can get better one every time. when will yours develop ? There is no justification for doing that ! Yes you might think that they alone have what it takes but trust me you are probably wrong !
2. I like your second argument because it shows how confused you are. You are talking about IGR when government gives almost no reason for any big firm to stay in the state. IGRs are generated main from taxes in which company income tax is principal. So tell me how can companies survive when what ought to serve as their income is being taken to Lagos ? You might argue that government should not be that only source of companies' income but it has to start from somewhere given the economic nature of the state.
The economic nature of the state however, can then being changed through this approach and not by mere saying since no private investor can come to a state whose economic condition is nothing to write home about and that is why government must champions it.

Na road be this one? Na now I know say poverty dey that state well well.