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Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 11:19pm On Aug 11, 2009
Did Jesus once kill all the [b]little babies, pregnant women and their foetuses, infants and innocent animals [/b]all in one global catastrophic incident?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tudor6(f): 7:28am On Aug 12, 2009
Yes he did. . . . .what a murderous carpenter!
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by gen2genius(m): 7:49am On Aug 12, 2009
grin  grin  grin  grin

Bunch of jobless dummies!

cheesy  cheesy  cheesy cheesy
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Nobody: 7:55am On Aug 12, 2009
Tudor pls no name calling. Thank you.
@huxley, The christians would probably avoid your questions completely. They'd rather swarm the 'Islam for Muslims' board questioning 'Islamic killings' as if the god they worship never ordered killings.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by gen2genius(m): 8:03am On Aug 12, 2009
Another dummy has just joined the absurdity-party! grin

I deliberately said that, Fellis, because if you're not one, you'd simply have asked the poster to provide some evidence instead of ranting about Christians "avoiding" his questions.

Let the folly continue grin grin
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tudor6(f): 8:10am On Aug 12, 2009
fellis:

Tudor pls no name calling. Thank you.
@huxley, The christians would probably avoid your questions completely. They'd rather swarm the 'Islam for Muslims' board questioning 'Islamic killings' as if the god they worship never ordered killings.
Before i react, what do you mean by name calling?
And pls point out where i called names.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Maykelly(f): 8:56am On Aug 12, 2009
huxley:

Did Jesus once kill all the [b]little babies, pregnate women and their foetuses, infants and innocent animals [/b]all in one global catastrophic incident?
your totally sick in the head, how dare u! stupid topic caption. . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz angry
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 9:01am On Aug 12, 2009
May kelly:

your totally sick in the head, how dare u! stupid topic caption. . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz angry

Did Jesus not kill pregnant women, babies, infants and animals in the Noah flood? Or have you not read you bible?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Nobody: 9:12am On Aug 12, 2009
@gen2genius,
for whatever insultive word you call me or say to me,may the same be unto you.
I did not ask for proof from huxley because I read the bible. I am not oblivious of what it contains.
@Tudor, you called Jesus Christ a murderous carpenter, for those who hold him in high esteem, me being one of them, that is insultive. The same for those christians who believe that if he ordered any murder it was justified, since he is regarded as god and should not be questioned. The word 'murderous' would be offensive to them, if not to you. So at least, try to be considerate of their beliefs and do not use words that the theists consider to be offensive.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tudor6(f): 9:18am On Aug 12, 2009
fellis:

@gen2genius,
for whatever insultive word you call me or say to me,may the same be unto you.
I did not ask for proof from huxley because I read the bible. I am not oblivious of what it contains.
@Tudor, you called Jesus Christ a murderous carpenter, for those who hold him in high esteem, me being one of them, that is insultive. The same for those christians who believe that if he ordered any murder it was justified, since he is regarded as god and should not be questioned. The word 'murderous' would be offensive to them, if not to you. So at least, try to be considerate of their beliefs and do not use words that the theists consider to be offensive.
What the hell is this?
If you kill aren't you a murderer??
So you want me to refer to a killer as a saint because some people hold him in high esteem- you must be joking!
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Maykelly(f): 9:20am On Aug 12, 2009
huxley:


Worst than what i even though of. complete Ignorance! i don't need a fool's reply pls.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 9:22am On Aug 12, 2009
May kelly:

Worst than what i even though of. complete Ignorance! i don't need a fool's reply pls.

Who kill all the people with the flood?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Abuzola(m): 9:23am On Aug 12, 2009
Jesus is a murderer
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tonyet1(m): 9:43am On Aug 12, 2009
huxley:

Did Jesus not kill pregnant women, babies, infants and animals in the Noah flood? Or have you not read you bible?

Mr.Huxley,

what power has the clay to the potter regarding what the latter wishes to do with his property?

if he does so what? mr Jesus obsessionist grin
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tudor6(f): 10:00am On Aug 12, 2009
tonye-t:

Mr.Huxley,

what power has the clay to the potter regarding what the latter wishes to do with his property?

if he does so what? mr Jesus obsessionist  grin

Oh really?
Then i honestly wonder what you christians have against allah when he sends Abuzola to kill you people afterall he claimed to create the world hence you're his property too, aint it?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tonyet1(m): 10:25am On Aug 12, 2009
Tudór:

Oh really?
Then i honestly wonder what you christians have against allah when he sends Abuzola to kill you people afterall he claimed to create the world hence you're his property too, aint it?


Mr. Tudor,

you seem very good at going off topics, well to answer your question, i dont think any one has the right to oppose God for marring his property, now if the muslims claim that some one killed whomsoever as backed by God (thats if there God s the same as the True God) then who are we to gain say?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tudor6(f): 10:36am On Aug 12, 2009
tonye-t:


Mr. Tudor,

you seem very good at going off topics, well to answer your question, i dont think any one has the right to oppose God for marring his property, now if the muslims claim that some one killed whomsoever as backed by God (thats if there God s the same as the True God) then who are we to gain say?

Splendid!
May i never see you berating the muslims for their terrorism and jihan killings.

And yes, Jesus is a murderer whether we're his property or not is inconsequential.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Abuzola(m): 10:55am On Aug 12, 2009
Lol
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tonyet1(m): 11:15am On Aug 12, 2009
Tudór:


And yes,we're his property

hmm flesh and blood did not reveal this thing to you but the Spirit, your true surrendrance aint far again i CAN TELL! believe me!
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by gen2genius(m): 11:36am On Aug 12, 2009
Abuzola, shame on you. So you called Jesus whom you claim is one of your prophets a murderer? shocked

Tudor and Huxley, sometimes your way of reasoning amazes appalls me. If God tells you not to put your hand into a fire and you do and get burnt, is it reasonable to put the blame on him? Are you so gullible and bigoted? God sent Noah to the people to warn them of an impending deluge and he provided a way of escape for as many as would be wise. He told Noah to construct a mighty Ark and gave him the exact specifications. Can you guess how many years it would take to build such an ark? It was that same length of time that God gave to the people to consider the warning. As Noah was building, he continued to warn the people and they continued to mock him, just like many people today, especially, atheists who mock God and his words. Some even said they wanted to see how such a thing could happen. And it did happen. So, how's God a murderer?

God is a loving a patient God. Unfortunately, human beings like you take these wonderful attributes of his for granted. Take the case of the people of Sodom too. The angels warned and Lot too warned and warned but the people kept mocking until the predicted judgement came to pass. Even the Israelites were not spared each time they despised God's words.

And see what happens in our present generation - the ubiquitous spread of evil and perversion; the utter disregard for God and his word, and yet God continues to warn and forbear. And as usual, the foolish people who will NEVER learn from history continue to revel in depravity and mockery of God. So, what excuse or accusation will any of you have against God at last?

Let me give you three different accounts that buttress my explanations. PLEASE take time to go through them 'cos they're cogent and not lengthy:

From Jesus (warning the people of this generation in advance):

And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:26-29)

Also from Jude:

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)

And from Peter:

This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack (sluggish) concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:1-9).

Still, people won't listen. So how's God a 'murderer' in this context. Why should God be blamed for man's self-inflicted foolishness and woes? These days, we have "weather reports" the purpose of which is to make us properly plan our activities. But if someone foolishly ignores the reports and warnings, whose fault would it be? Even in human governments, there are certain laws that are meant to regulate our actions and interactions. And there are penalties attached to the violation of these laws. Many people know the harshness of some of these penalties; yet they choose to violate the laws. Would it then be reasonable for you to blame the government for prosecuting such? In most Asian countries, the penalty for drug peddling is death. Yet many Nigerians still engage in the dirty deal. Will you also join the band of jobless "diplomats" who go about begging for leniency when such criminals are arrested and sentenced?

Please, let's apply commonsense and stop being unreasonable! cool
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 11:49am On Aug 12, 2009
gen2genius:

Abuzola, shame on you. So you called Jesus whom you claim is one of your prophets a murderer? shocked

Tudor and Huxley, sometimes your way of reasoning amazes appalls me. If God tells you not to put your hand into a fire and you do and get burnt, is it reasonable to put the blame on him? Are you so gullible and bigoted? God sent Noah to the people to warn them of an impending deluge and he provided a way of escape for as many as would be wise. He told Noah to construct a mighty Ark and gave him the exact specifications. Can you guess how many years it would take to build such an ark? It was that same length of time that God gave to the people to consider the warning. As Noah was building, he continued to warn the people and they continued to mock him, just like many people today, especially, atheists mock God and his words. Some even said they wanted to see how such a thing could happen. And it did happen. So, how's God a murderer?

God is a loving a patient God. Unfortunately, human beings like you take these wonderful attributes of his for granted. Take the case of the people of Sodom too. The angels warned and Lot too warned and warned but the people kept mocking until the predicted judgement came to pass. Even the Israelites were not spared each time they despised God's words.

And see what happens in our present generation - the ubiquitous spread of evil and perversion; the utter disregard for God and his word, and yet God continues to warn and forbear. And as usual, the foolish people who will NEVER learn from history continue to revel in depravity and mockery of God. So, what excuse or accusation will any of you have against God at last?

Let me give you three different accounts that buttress my explanations. PLEASE take time to go through them 'cos they're cogent and not lengthy:

From Jesus (warning the people of this generation in advance):

And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:26-29)

Also from Jude:

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)

And from Peter:

This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack (sluggish) concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:1-9).

Still, people won't listen. So how's God a 'murderer' in this context. Why should God be blamed for man's self-inflicted foolishness and woes?

 

How about all the tiny little babies? The day old, two-days old, the 1 year old? How about the babies in ther mother tummy? What chance did they have? What warning did god sent to them? Did they have a chance to repent.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by gen2genius(m): 11:59am On Aug 12, 2009
Two questions for you Huxley.

1 - Do you have CONCRETE proofs that there were "tiny little babies" among those who were destroyed? I know it can be assumed but don't base your accusations on assumptions. It's ILLOGICAL!

2. If there was a weather report that there would be a heavy rainfall in a particular city this afternoon, and a mother witlessly took her baby out without an umbrella and when the downpour began, both the mother and child were drenched and both caught pneumonia. Who would you blame. God? 

As I said earlier, think well before allowing bigotry to push you into posting rubbish!
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Nezan(m): 12:10pm On Aug 12, 2009
gen2genius:

[size=18pt]Abuzola, shame on you. So you called Jesus whom you claim is one of your prophets a murderer? shocked[/size]


[size=18pt]@ NL atheists:[/size][size=18pt]This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation,,,,,,,,, The Lord is not slack (sluggish) concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance[/size]. (2 Peter 3:1-9).
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Nobody: 12:23pm On Aug 12, 2009
huxley:

Did Jesus once kill all the [b]little babies, pregnant women and their foetuses, infants and innocent animals [/b]all in one global catastrophic incident?

Really stupid reasoning.

Really if you dont believe in Jesus, then how do you know he was the one who caused the Flood?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 12:29pm On Aug 12, 2009
gen2genius:

Two questions for you Huxley.

1 - Do you have CONCRETE proofs that there were "tiny little babies" among those who were destroyed? I know it can be assumed but don't base your accusations on assumptions. It's ILLOGICAL!

2. If there was a weather report that there would be  a heavy rainfall in a particular city this afternoon, and a mother witlessly took her baby out without an umbrella and when the downpour began, both the mother and child were drenched and both caught pneumonia. Who would you blame. God? 

As I said earlier, think well before allowing bigotry to push you into posting rubbish!

1)  It is reasonable to assume that in any population of people, there will be people of all age range, and gender, especially if said population is the entire world population.  Can you provide some reasons why this assumption is unjustified?


If your reasons seem valid, I shall withdraw my charges against Jesus/God.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 12:37pm On Aug 12, 2009
babaearly:

Really stupid reasoning.

Really if you dont believe in Jesus, then how do you know he was the one who caused the Flood?

I don't have to believe in it to check for its internal consistency. Do you have to believe in the claims of Mohammed to check or know that his claims are bogus?

Your religion/belief tells you that Jesus caused the flood. Is is a fact that Jesus caused a flood which killed everyone on earth except for Noah's family?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by kolaoloye(m): 12:39pm On Aug 12, 2009
@ OP
Hmnnn, All i can do for now is to pray for you.
May the Almighty God give you understanding.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by huxley(m): 12:40pm On Aug 12, 2009
kola oloye:

@ OP
Hmnnn, All i can do for now is to pray for you.
May the Almighty God give you understanding.

Can you also tell me why all those little ones were kill by Jesus?
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Abuzola(m): 1:34pm On Aug 12, 2009
Huxley don't mind them jo, they don't even understand what they worship
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by Tudor6(f): 2:10pm On Aug 12, 2009
huxley:

How about all the tiny little babies?   The day old, two-days old, the 1 year old?  How about the babies in ther mother tummy?  What chance did they have? What warning did god sent to them?  Did they have a chance to repent.
Huxley murder of innocent children is the expertise of jesus and his remaining two heads.
He callously killed innocent Egyptian first borns who had absolutely nothing to do with the enslavement of the isrealites even the jews were commanded to wipe out populations including, babies, toddlers, children of all ages even animals were not spared. . .only keeping virgins for sexual sacrifice unto the lord. . . .what a god!
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by MUZBO(m): 3:58pm On Aug 12, 2009
You people won't kill me with laughter. Ofcourse the christians will never answer the question. Abeg Huxley if someone answers call me on 0800- THEY-WONT-DARE so that I can get some popcorn ready. Its gonn be fun.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except If You Are Jesus! by muhsin(m): 5:44pm On Aug 12, 2009
Abuzola:

Jesus is a murderer

Is that really you or someone circumvented your user-name, Abuzola?

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