The proud infidel


My journey from faith, to agnosticism and finally atheism.

"children are taught that it is a virtue to accept statement without adequate evidence, which leaves them a prey to quakes of every kind in later life, and makes it difficult for them to accept the methods of thought which are successful in science"_ J. B. S Haldane

"when the effect of emotional convictions has subdued the man of reason will look for logical evidences for his religious beliefs”_Friedrich Nietzsche

It is often said that there are two kind of books, those that makes you think and those that makes you wonder. This is by no means a book but an essay that will make you do both. In my early twenties, having lived the most of my life as a Muslim who believed in Islam and it's teaching as the only guided path to paradise in the afterlife, I fell into a deep religious crisis which made me doubtful and renounce everything concerning God, religion and spirituality. I knew I disappointed a lot of people, many called me names; crazy, amnesic, schizophrenic many even say I have forgotten myself. I ignore everything since my aim is the truth. Friedrich Nietzsche once said that the seeker of truth must not only be able to love his enemies, he must be able to hate his friends too. Don't let me bore you with my emotions, they will only lengthen the discussion, am here to tell u my story to atheism, ride with me.


Just like every kid that is given birth to, I was indoctrinated into my parent's religion; a Muslim, I was made to believe that there was no God except Allah and Muhammad is his messenger, I was made to believe that the Quran is an unequivocal word of God which was to be obeyed literarily and that the prophet and his traditions exhibit a mode of life of an utmost degree of morality that can bring humans to the happiness they so desire.

I first came in contact with Christianity when I was twelve through the the works of the great Muslim orator and a scholar of comparative religion studies, who gave Islam and Muslim's a great weapon of conversion, which include series of arguments and the use of logic and reason. I was a proponent of his works, until I came to realise he has no carnal knowledge of the Christian faith. From the perspective of a philosopher religious dogmas and beliefs cannot conform with logic and reason hence why they were named dogmas. He(Ahmed deedat) applied his reason and logic in interpreting the Bible and it's teachings thereby going against every doctrine the church and clergy men stood for. He forgot the Muslim fundamentalist would not allow the same thing be done to the Quran and it's teachings.

The cases of the mu'tazilites and the zindiqs are worth mentioning; they consist of certain sects and individual who approached the Quran with reason and logic then came to some conclusions that were against the teaching of the orthodox Muslims, of course these sects and individuals were not free since Islam is practically against freethinking and reason, they were subsequently executed, burned, crucified, decapitated and in worst scenario beheaded.

Continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3481917/journey-islam-atheism/1#51337684

K

but do you believe in God

am still coming to that sir........ will continue when am back from my Arabic class

if you think it is the best thing for you..then no problem

Theproudinfidel:
The proud infidel

Just like ever kid that is given birth to, I was indoctrinated into my parent's religion; a Muslim

I agree.

Theproudinfidel:
The proud infidel
The cases of the [b]mutazilites and the zindiq[/b]s are worth mentioning; they consist of certain sects and individual who approached the Quran with reason and logic then came to some conclusions that were against the teaching of the orthodox Muslims, of course these sects and individuals were not free since Islam is practically against freethinking and reason, they were subsequently executed, burned, crucified, decapitated and in worst scenario beheaded.

Are these type of Islamic sects still in existence. I've only heard of Sunni and shiite.

NB: Mods, respect yourselves. Do not move this thread to Islamic section

Thats a new one...

see this one...how is it our business...?... you can be what you wanna be...

Atheism is a Religion that replaces God with Self!

Do you know the sin of shaitan?
Atheism!

shadeyinka:
Atheism is a Religion that replaces God with Self!

Do you know the sin of shaitan?
Atheism!

How is it possible that Satan does not believe that God exists? Hasn't he met with God many times according to what you believe?

Seun:
How is it possible that Satan does not believe that God exists? Hasn't he met with God many times according to what you believe?

Satan is not an atheist. Primarily, pride and arrogance was his (first) sin.

Seun:
How is it possible that Satan does not believe that God exists? Hasn't he met with God many times according to what you believe?

kindly move this thread to islam section

Seun:
How is it possible that Satan does not believe that God exists? Hasn't he met with God many times according to what you believe?

Hehehehe
Maybe poor shaitan can't believe the chap he meets is God.

@OP is that the end of your story?

What a bold move. Eagerly awaiting your presence to grace this thread, giving us reasons why you left.


Slowly; but surely...........



AFRICA WILL BE FREE!!!

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et al.

Theproudinfidel;

In the intrests of security; I would advise you to remove your picture from your profile.

I, for one, do not want to hear any sad news gracing the front page regarding a deceased Nairalander.

Take note, Seun.

SirWere:

cc hopefulLandlord johnydon22 urahara akintom Anonymous TomHagen et al.

Are these the disciples of atheism?
Who is your daddy G.O?

alBHAGDADI:

Are these the disciples of atheism?
Who is your daddy G.O?

disciples ke
Atheism no be cult or religion or anything like that ooo.
These are just fellow atheists.

SirWere:
disciples ke

Atheism no be cult or religion or anything like that ooo.

These are just fellow atheists.

Then why call them to come and welcome a new member?

Theproudinfidel:
am still coming to that sir........ will continue when am back from my Arabic class

Bro. I can see it in your eyes. The truth is scary

alBHAGDADI:
Then why call them to come and welcome a new member?

Welcome a new member ke, you're making it sound like it's a house party.
I'm simply calling it to their attention.
Everyone loves a good story and we can all learn from the experiences and difficulties the Op faced before arriving at this position.

I'd have called the theists but I don't want this page to be spammed with the usual no true scotsman fallacy and threats.

SirWere:


Welcome a new member ke, you're making it sound like it's a house party.
I'm simply calling it to their attention.
Everyone loves a good story and we can all learn from the experiences and difficulties the Op faced before arriving at this position.

I'd have called the theists but I don't want this page to be spammed with the usual no true scotsman fallacy and threats.

Why are you wasting your time replying that one

kevoh:


I agree.


Are these type of Islamic sects still in existence. I've only heard of Sunni and shiite.

NB: Mods, respect yourselves. Do not move this thread to Islamic section

Literately mutazili means those who stand apart or tore away. While zindiq or zindiqa means heretics and heresy Mutazilites and zindiqs were not really sects in the history of Islam, they were Muslim's that consist of group of people or individuals who approached Islam and it's teaching with reason....thereby formulating some ideas that were alien to the traditional views held by the fundamentalist Muslim. A great Example is the notion that purports the Quran to be the created word of God which is contrary to the views of the traditional Muslim who believed that the Quran is an unequivocal word of God which as always existed and was part of him. Subsequently the terms was later used to describe the freethinker, atheist, and the agnostics. The greatest of the zindiqs include;

Djad ibn Diram ( Executed 742 )

Ibn Al muqaffa (ex. 760 )

Ibn Abi-l-Awja ( ex. 772 )
He expounded the concept of theodicy, accused the prophet of lying and believes in the eternity of the world

Bashshar ibn-Burd(714/715)
A great poet and a critic of the quran" Bashshar did in fact praise one of his own poetic products
when he heard it recited by a singing girl in Baghdad as being better than the
sural al-Hashr. The way of expression of the Koran was criticised and the similes
found wanting. Al-Mubarrad tells of a heretic who ridiculed the parable in sura
XXXVII.63 where the fruits of the tree Zakkum in hell are likened to the heads
of devils. The critics say: "He compares the visible with the unknown here. We
have never seen the heads of devils; what kind of a simile is this?"

Al warraq

Al-mutannabi

Ibn Al-Rawandi

Abu -Ala-Al ma'aar ☺ the blind poet... My favourite


I thank my stars for the gift of democracy and fundamental Human Rights. For if I am in a Muslim country I would have been killed for apostasy by now because of the totalitarian nature of Islam.




Every Muslim believes Africans should not be westernised, I strongly believe we shouldn't be easternised too.

Another beautiful fallacies.

EVER SINCE THE ARABS INVADED EGYPT THEY HAVE BEEN INFILITRATING AFRICA VIA RELIGION. GRABBING LAND INCH BY INCH AND THERE CULTURE WILL SUPERCEDE YOUR CULTURE . LOOK AT THE NORTH, THEY HAVE VIRTUALLY NO CULTURE BUT ARAB CULTURE.

EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY GET TO MAJORITY THERE BABARITY INCREASES.

DO YOU KNOW THAT SYRIA WAS A CHRISTIAN LAND. YOU REMEBER DAMASCUS (PAUL OF DAMASCUS) ONE OF THE IMPORTANT LANDS. THEY EVENTUALLY INVADED THE LAND AND THEM KILL ALL NON MUSLIMS AND THEN START KILLING THEMSELVES.

LOOK AT SYRIA TODAY, WHAT OF AFGHANISTAN, SOMALI AND LOOK AT BORNO STATE.

THEY USE THERE OIL MONEY TO SPONSOR TERRORISM AND THEY ARE MOVING GRADUALLY. THEY COME TO AFRICA BECAUSE AFRICA HAVE LOW IQ AND CANNOT GO TO CHINA.

NOW EUROPE IS WAKING UP AND SEEING THERE DEMONIC WAYS.

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Seun:
@Theproudinfidel, the thread has been moved to the Islam section where it belongs. It will be moderated fairly, so pls feel free to continue your story.

It has been moved backed to the religion section. I believe that is fair enough cos the guy is no more a muslim, meaning that the thread should be in the religion section where his fellow atheists have a field day.

I believe the thread should grace the FP so as to balance up for the Christian to atheism thread that hit FP too.

Nice... Please remain anonymous...for your sake o

Satan is an apostate, not an atheist. He was the first apostate!

Seun:
How is it possible that Satan does not believe that God exists? Hasn't he met with God many times according to what you believe?