CAPTIVATOR:


So I am addding to the scripture if I said My God is superior to me . if not Superior, Why Call him MY God then ? You need to be reasonable.

calling someone MY GOD makes the Person Superior to you.

Use your thinking faculty bro ( Proverb 2:11)

CAPTIVATOR:


Have you forgotten that Philipians 2:3 Tell each Christian to "regard others as
better than and superior to himself"! , Then in verse 5 it says this attitude was in Christ Jesus too and we SHOULD IMITATE his Example.

Are you now telling me Christ whose example we want to follow, didnt regard his God has better than , Above and Superior to himself ?

achorladey:

I can easily predict who you are, I know you will run back to your John 1:1 once I typed the post you replied to. The last straw you are hanging onto. Keep it up!!!!!!!!

achorladey:

Johnw74 make do with the advice given by captivator?

achorladey:


GOD'S WORD Php 2:6  Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality. 

Why will Jesus take advantage of what he has already attained since Jesus is the one God?
KJV Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Why would a thought of not robbing the position of equality he has already attained come to Jesus mind if indeed he has already attained it.
Or perhaps you need a better translation,
English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, - Phil 2:6
. The simplest of Jesus mental attitude, The simplest of Jesus mind you are not ready to follow. Haba Johnw74

achorladey:

You could have asked yourself, Paul statement, was it made when Jesus was on earth? or was Paul through inspiration was talking about what the mind of Christ was long before he came to the earth to carry out the purpose his father sent him for? When you answer that question you know the context you are referring to.
Please define ''mind of Christ'' according to that scriptures.

Hairyrapunzel:


Jesus christ was not a proud person so he wouldn't have bragged about being God just like the way jws are looking for the verse when Jesus Christ said He is God.

Like I said read the whole phillipians chapter 2 very well without the watchtower lens

achorladey:

Oga you are christ follower, I hope you should strive everyday to have the mind of christ as expressed in Paul's inspired word in Phillipians 2:5,6,7. Forget that watchtower lens, No be Watchtower 2:5,6,7 I use cite that scriptures. Bye bye.

Hairyrapunzel:


Read your bible alone and understand what phillipians 2 was saying ask the holy spirit for understanding. Phillipians 2 talks plainly about humility. Talks about christians being humble people
Pride goes before a fall. Like I said Jesus Christ was humble.
Saying Jesus Christ is God, saying Jesus Christ is our personal Lord and Saviour is not pride.
Please always try to get the message a verse or a chapter in the bible is trying to emphasize

johnw74:
ac hor ladey, while I'm waiting on your reply, to if you want me to post more scriptures besides John 1:1 showing that Jesus is God, here are some Yahovah and Jesus verses for you to deny:

Yahovah
Psa 89:9 Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them.

Jesus
Mar 4:39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
*
Yahovah:
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Jesus:
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
*
Yahovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
*
Yahovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


Joh 8:58  Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


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johnw74:


I am not ready to follow your simple mind, that's for sure ac,
what is that mumbo jumbo

the verse is very clear, Jesus is equal to God(Father)

KJV Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

GOD'S WORD Php 2:6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality.

English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, - Phil 2:6

those verses are correct but your's and cap's translation and understanding of them is not,
your elders lead you up the garden path, the wrong path, you have to be such duh's to follow them.

Following Jesus is the only way, Christians follow Him, false jw's deny Him.

Mat_10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

achorladey:

Oga you are christ follower, I hope you should strive everyday to have the mind of christ as expressed in Paul's inspired word in Phillipians 2:5,6,7. Forget that watchtower lens, No be Watchtower 2:5,6,7 I use cite that scriptures. Bye bye.

achorladey:

Follow the advice in my previous post. Phillipians 2 goes beyond humility alone it also contains other truth contained in the bible, that the same scriptures is used to show while Jesus is God proves this your latest post as otherwise. Follow the advice in my previous post.

Hairyrapunzel:


Achorladey Jesus Christ is the same nature as God. You can say all you like. Jesus christ was not a proud person and never bragged about being God.
You are looking for the verse where Jesus Christ bragged about being God. You will not see because Jesus Christ is not proud.
Humility is the message whether you like it or not. Bible is not hard to understand. At least Paul even acknowledged that Jesus was in nature God.

Phillipians2:6-11, 6 who being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father

Jesus Christ is God.

achorladey:

I dont expect you to stoop so low to follow my mind either, But you can follow the mind of christ as expressed in Phillipians 2:5,6,7,8,9,10,11
Jesus Christ has always been a subject of that one that subjected all things under his feet.
1 Corinthians 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Jesus once said about a robber, John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

He never had the mind of stealing a position that was not his from the start latter Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him(Jesus) , and given him a name which is above every name:
Admit the mind of christ it can never be hard to do he is your personal Lord and Saviour. Hahahahahahahahahhahahhhahahah

achorladey:



he is your personal Lord and Saviour. Hahahahahahahahahhahahhhahahah

johnw74:


look how you false jw twist things - lie, to avoid truth, that's what false jw's do as you know,
your last statement was: "So I am addding to the scripture if I said My God is superior to me"
it's Jesus that was spoken off not you.

You are not Jesus, you are as far from Him as can be,
you certainly don't use your thinking faculty, except to lie and deny

Hairyrapunzel:


Achorladey Jesus Christ is the same nature as God.

johnw74:


once again you are changing the subject which is "the word who became Jesus Christ is equal to Father",
Philippians 2:6 is clear on that


it is clear that false jw's purposely change what was said, change the subject - lie,
to avoid the truth, because it happens very often, and surely no one can be that dumb, but perhaps you are:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

achorladey:

Let me help you reason well, let's assume Jesus is equal with God(definitely Jesus was not) would it be right for Jesus to entertain such thought of taken advantage of his equality with God? What will he(Jesus) gain from taking such advantage since they are equal? Will it be necessary for Jesus to seek God's consent to be restored back to a position he humbly dropped? Or why will God need to exalt him to a position he(Jesus) humbly relinquished? That Satan took advantage of being in God's form or nature made him any better than his creator? See that scripture in its proper sense.

Thank you for the bold part in the above post, If they are indeed equal, Exalting him should have make him Greater than God

achorladey:

Let me help you reason well, let's assume Jesus is equal with God(definitely Jesus was not) would it be right for Jesus to entertain such thought of taken advantage of his equality with God? What will he(Jesus) gain from taking such advantage since they are equal? .

saintmark88:


In authority yes I agree with u.....just as a man in terms if authority is the head of his house.... But by nature nkor.....y r u dodging that part??

Barristter07:

saintmark88



Stop flogging a dead horse, You already admit God is greater than Christ in Authority. That makes Jesus subordinate to His God and Father



By nature . God is spirit ( John 4:24) , Like someone said earlier we can say even the angels are equal to God going by your logic , aren't they Spirit beings ?

saintmark88:


Oga learn nd not block ur mind....Jesus subordinate to The Father doesn't make dem not equal.

Example your human father has greater authority than u, that means ur subordinate to him.,

now answer me......is ur father a greater human being than u.....aren't u both human beings by nature??

We are both humans, But definitely Not equal

Now God is a spirit, there r many spirit beings, like u mentioned the angels, but none has the nature of God except his only begotten son.....if u dnt get it, pls dnt quote me again

Barristter07:
Hairyrapunzel



Am aware the nature of servant is this human flesh, What exactly do you mean by Nature of God ?

achorladey:

Let me help you reason well, let's assume Jesus is equal with God(definitely Jesus was not) would it be right for Jesus to entertain such thought of taken advantage of his equality with God? What will he(Jesus) gain from taking such advantage since they are equal? Will it be necessary for Jesus to seek God's consent to be restored back to a position he humbly dropped? Or why will God need to exalt him to a position he(Jesus) humbly relinquished? That Satan took advantage of being in God's form or nature made him any better than his creator? See that scripture in its proper dense.

Hairyrapunzel:


Paul acknowledged that Jesus was God. Jesus was not a proud person so he wouldn't have bragged about being God. Jesus followers considered him God. I am a follower of Jesus I am not Jesus. I will imitates Christ humility being humble in all I do. Jesus or apostle Paul never said Jesus is not God.
Does saying Jesus is God or Jesus is my personal Lord and saviour make me or Jesus proud?

There is no passage in the bible where they said Satan was nature God and satan said he was God and took advantage of it. making statement not in the bible and now relating it and likening it to a bible character and saying its the cause of something in the bible shows deceit on your part. You are being deceitful or its that how they teach you people to lay your arguments?

achorladey:

Satan was not in God's nature yet he was able to gain access and have personal chat with God concerning the case of Job. You could have provided answers to the questions asked. Faith goes along with reasoning.