uplawal:

thats not your problem pls,just make sure ure not a christian before that time comes

you are planning to massacre non muslims according to the dictate of your bloodthirsty Allah and his peadophile messenger

Hahaha i laff in German

@Agatamari,Jesus would do that anyways,then u will know hes not divine but a messenger to carry out his just duties

[size=13pt]uplawal dear, longest time no see. . . .how's your corner?. Well, i feel like knowing whats up from you . Much Love. . . .

Bisou!![/size]

@ogaga4luv, i missed u too ,where av u been,some christians here been saying rubbish that uve accepted their very deadest god,that was mercilessly nailed to the long cut rough wood by some mafias,   pls dnt tell me its true  sha.



do av a great

[size=13pt]Woooooo. . . . sweetheart thats not true . i didn't accpt that guy ,i think some of his so-called followers are trying to convert me, but i never let the seal spoil since i remain on my ground. . . . . . . there's too much rumours flowing in here due to my long silent on here but now im out fully to confirm they're WRONG.

One thing I've always tell the christians is that im patiently waiting for that JESUS to come back, the second coming we be a great chance for me to send him back to the 6 feet down down. Common sweetheart trusth me. . . . [/size]

Now i am finally and totally convinced that ogaga has turned to a born again christian.

Ogaga4Luv:

[size=13pt]Woooooo. . . . sweetheart thats not true . i didn't accpt that guy ,i think some of his so-called followers are trying to convert me, but i never let the seal spoil since i remain on my ground. . . . . . . there's too much rumours flowing in here due to my long silent on here but now im out fully to confirm they're WRONG.

One thing I've always tell the christians is that im patiently waiting for that JESUS to come back, the second coming we be a great chance for me to send him back to the 6 feet down down. Common sweetheart trusth me. . . . [/size]

[size=13pt]I laugh in Satanic.[/size]

Christian are grade 1 liars, when i heard it i knew they were lying. The same way they said their god died and resurrected. We truely believe the xtrian god died but never resurrected. Mary magdalene went to the tomb and saw it empty, the Gospel of barnabas revealed that the body of jesus was stolen so that his followers would be convince that he resurrected. The cock and bull story of jesus descending in the presence of the disciples was a lie it was planned by the disciples. You can get all this in the gospel of barnabas. Barnabas was a disciple of jesus who single out from their fraud and wrote a book revealing it called 'GOSPEL OF BARNABAS)

to us (muslims)he dnt die,but for the sake of arguement,lets assumed he was murdered slaughtered coldblooded by some wisemen,he stll remained a dead god of the christians

@Abu Zola and Ogaga4luv,

If both of you are so assured that Islam is the best religion in the world why are you hell bent on attacking christians and their own religion? Follow mohammed and let them follow Jesus, try not to kill anyone while you're at it and I think we might just be able to get along---- if you both spent the time you use in researching the christian religion on developing yourself in your own,you woulda been imans by now, stop hurling mud at other people-----it doens't make you better---it doesn't make your religion better either!

ishhh

HAHAHA ! *dies of laughter* I've never heard a nigerian speak in tongues but other africans yes. It's SO freaking funny. ahblablablablabla. On a serious notes, what happens when you speak in tongues? Do you become richer?

how many of you will marry your daughter inlaw?i mean your son grows up and gets married then you decide that he does not need a beautiful wife.you make him divorce her and then marry her. horrific isn't it? this is the story of Mohammed, prophet of the muslims. a man who was extremely lustful. funniest thing is, i once told this story to a muslim who vehemently refused to believe it saying 'big mo' could never have done such. she went to confer with some elder and came back telling me that she was supposedto help him with something or the other. amazing.

who is the first documented gold digger in history? hint-he married a wealthy woman much older than him

who is the most famous paedophile in history? hint- he married a fourteen year old girl

who committed the most famous and glaring case of incest and perversion? hint- he married his own son's daughter.













and the answer issssssss(as if you don'talready know) the great prophet Mohammed of course, who else?

Mohammed? Gone with the wind.
Abu zola and uplawal, do u really, in the deepest depth of ur clouded reality, ever think islam can take over the world? No, just Nigeria?
Marionnets on a string.

i really shld stay out of dis conversation, becos itz not really a conversation but an exhibition of , @#^&, And religion is not something 2 argue about.it all depends on your faith, wateva u believe in and if it works for u then carry on, if it doesn't, hardluck, find anoda one. But besides faith, there is something called a conscience, not d conscience implanted by your religion but one dat feels morally right to u and everybody else.

@ kgdavid,

Zayd is not the son of Muhammad ok? go back and read your history book or the real source (Qur'an)

[size=13pt]estrella i have to tell you if we expect God to subscribe to one religion at the exclusion of all the others, then we should expect damnation as a matter of chance. This should give Christians pause when expounding their religious beliefs, but it does not. . . [/size]

estrella:

@Abu Zola and Ogaga4luv,

If both of you are so assured that Islam is the best religion in the world why are you hell bent on attacking christians and their own religion? Follow mohammed and let them follow Jesus, try not to kill anyone while you're at it and I think we might just be able to get along---- if you both spent the time you use in researching the christian religion on developing yourself in your own,you woulda been imans by now, stop hurling mud at other people-----it doens't make you better---it doesn't make your religion better either!

ok so suppose ur right and he was not his real son, he was at least adopted? just as bad. the fact is mohammed already had so many wives and yet he still snatched another mans own! never mind the fact that it was his son (adopted or otherwise),he used his position to take what was never meant to be his.

Ogaga4Luv:

[size=13pt]estrella i have to tell you if we expect God to subscribe to one religion at the exclusion of all the others, then we should expect damnation as a matter of chance. This should give Christians pause when expounding their religious beliefs, but it does not. . . [/size]

ur whole post does not make sense to me but i just have to say that God does not subscribe to any religion. God gave us a way to get to Him but some choose to dis-believe and find their own ways to Him which obviously are futile.

[size=13pt]and in addition , If really God is the alpha and the omega. The begining and the end, knows what has passed and what is to come, like it states in the bible, why do people pray and think it will make any difference. . . ? huh tell me.[/size]

God knowing what will happen and me praying are correlated how? we pray cos WE don't know what will happen, we pray cos we need his help with problems, so what if He knows what will happen in the future? what does this prove??

Joagbaje:
There is a thread on this already.God allowed them to speak in known language for a special purpose on that day. because people came from different nations and God allowed such a spectacular manifestation and thousands were reached for christ from the different nations. but that doesnt mean speaking in tongues must be done in a known language even though that still have is certain situation. There are different ways of speaking in tongues.
Paul talked about tongues of angels and tongues of men.

1 Cor. 13:1
    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

It doesnt always have to be in tongues of men (language)

Isaiah 28:11
    For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

some stammering or repetitons are noticed ,it is ok The issue is not how eloquent but the power that was released from the spirit. shakababala or whatever. There are even worst ones! like groaning in the spirit , singing in the spirit , laughing etc. They are ways the spirit helps us to pray in the will of God.

Romans 8:26
    Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

So if someone groan and it make sense in heaven how much the one that could pronounce some "nonsense"

1 Cor. 14:14
    For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

There are times while praying in tongues that it get to a point you cant even say word again, no more shkabrakabalaba, all you just experience is groans, or strange sounds. Do you know what groan is. like someone trying to poo a harrd poo! or a woman in labour.

Jesus did it too.  When lazarus died, The only prayer Jesus did was to groan in the spirit.

John 11:33
    When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit,,  ,

John 11:38
    Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.

John 11:41-43
    Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. [42] And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. [43] And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

He thanked God for hearing him,but he never made a prayer ,except the groan he made in the spirit.So the issue is not how the thing soun but where it is coming from and the power that is discharged.

Now what most people used today to attack tongues is 1Cor 14: e.g interpretation and so on.You know the corinthian church was troublesome to Paul , they abused spiritual gift. somebody could give prophesy int tongues there. Imagine someone says " thus saith the lord", shakabradada sbbebbe. amen! and sits down. They ask another person to round up service in prayer and he says " Father, shabododbobdodo kokoko. Amen"

It is wrong to speak tongues, when you give prophecy or you are praying on behalf of others cooperately

1 Cor. 14:16
    Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?

If you must do that you need to interprete the "brakalabala rekete" or else keep quiet.
the whole church can pray individually to God in tongues if its an instruction cooperately. and you can talk to God in tongues individualy, but if you must talk to the church, "English please"

Very succint point with scriptural  backing. . . . I have some questions for you:

- Is it compulsory for every believer to speak in tongues?
- Since it is a gift, Is everyone expected to receive it?
- The gifts of God are without repentance, therefore Is it possible to ask for forgiveness in tongues?
- What is your take on the commandment of pastors on sunday morning that everyone gets up and begins to speak in tongues? Is it necessary to take part even if you do not want to?

While you're waiting for answers from the person you addressed your questions to, let me throw in a few notes:

ow11:

- The gifts of God are without repentance, therefore Is it possible to ask for forgiveness in tongues?

The "repentance" in Romans 11:29 is not about conversion but about God's calling and divine gifts - please read it carefully.

- What is your take on the commandment of pastors on sunday morning that everyone gets up and begins to speak in tongues? Is it necessary to take part even if you do not want to?

No. Read 1 Corinthians 14:23 and 27.

viaro:

While you're waiting for answers from the person you addressed your questions to, let me throw in a few notes:

The "repentance" in Romans 11:29 is not about conversion but about God's calling and divine gifts - please read it carefully.

I think you misunderstood my question. Let me rephrase; After a believer gets this gift, can he for example need to ask for forgiveness for a transgression do so in tongues?

^^ He or she may do so.

[size=13pt]Well the most funniest is that i do not think it is necessary to believe that the same God who has given us our senses, reason, and intelligence wished us to abandon their use, giving us by some other means the information that we could gain through them.[/size]

Kgdavid:

God knowing what will happen and me praying are correlated how? we pray cos WE don't know what will happen, we pray cos we need his help with problems, so what if He knows what will happen in the future? what does this prove??