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Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 9:53am On Feb 08, 2010
Omar Muhammad had always believed in the solidarity purported by the Nation Of Islam. But while being groomed for the Muslim elite, violence against his own family and the death of major Muslim leaders made him question his faith and ultimately turn to God.

Omar had grown up in the prestigious Muslim elite, watching his father perform his duty as a captain leader at the Newark, New Jersey mosque and enjoying dinners with close friend and leader of the Nation of Islam, Minister Farrakhan. One day that peaceful family life would end and the unity he had once known within the African American brotherhood would be shattered.

Omar turned to drugs and drinking to drown his sorrows. Because of his rebellious behavior, Omar's parents threw him out of the house after high school. Out on his own, Omar was forced to sell his plasma to survive. In his desperation, Omar searched the Koran for answers. But his religious fervor only led to a deeper depression.

Then one day, a friend suggested Omar read the Bible instead. So Omar did, but found the Bible difficult to understand. "The spirit of Islam, I would like to say, put on me a spirit of ignorance and almost deafness and dumbness. I could not really hear any real faithful words of Christians. I just couldn't hear them," he says.

http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/OnlineDiscipleship/UnderstandingIslam/Former_Muslim_turns_to_Jesus_Christ.aspx
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by niceguy10: 10:08am On Feb 08, 2010
Interesting,
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 10:14am On Feb 08, 2010
true conversion experience.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Nobody: 11:10am On Feb 08, 2010
Already got visa to hell even before he converted to christianity cos He was never a muslim before,now hes payed more for more charcoal for his space in hellfire

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Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 11:29am On Feb 08, 2010
bros u harsh o. why sentencing d guy 2 hell just because he embraced light? others who collected arab money 2 convert 2 islam will soon follow suit.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Nobody: 11:33am On Feb 08, 2010
@Ayusman,WHY DNT U PUT your OWN PICTURE IN THE PROFILE PAGE or are u gay?

am not harsh but its the truth,hes in total darkness and not LIGHT you thought
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 11:35am On Feb 08, 2010
uplawal:

@Ayusman,WHY DNT U PUT your OWN PICTURE IN THE PROFILE PAGE or are u gay?

I just checked yours and your picture is not there. Are you lesbian?
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 11:38am On Feb 08, 2010
she is not a lesbiae but a FEMALE TERRORIST. Maybe because she wants 2 come and bomb me.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Nobody: 11:38am On Feb 08, 2010
@viaro,kai some people are born Amebo,


are u Ayusman or Ayusman area,freedom or church fighter?anyways av a blessed day
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 11:42am On Feb 08, 2010
uplawal:

@viaro,kai some people are born Amebo,

What's that? cheesy

are u Ayusman or Ayusman area,freedom or church fighter?

None of the above.

anyways av a blessed day

And you too. smiley
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 11:46am On Feb 08, 2010
@uplawal, none of d above. am just an easy going guy who knws d truth and lives by it. I also detest violence and terrorists who fight 4 their powerless god.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Nobody: 11:48am On Feb 08, 2010
I believe Mohamed Alli suffered defeat health wise because he went against God's will by converting to Islam under the Nation of Islam's influence. Malcom-X also came to a brutal end as a result of the same Organizations activities. I believe there is more to it than actually meets the eyes.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Nobody: 11:58am On Feb 08, 2010
@Ayusman, or u think Jesus is coming back to pat you people on the back, i tell u hes coming to ISLAMISE the whole world and restore ISLAM,and preparation is going on
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 12:10pm On Feb 08, 2010
@uplawal, certainly u've been smoking mutallab's undies, Jesus coming 2 islamise d world? i laugh. wonder wat they teach u guys in d koran except illusioning, hatred, violence and enternal lies?
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by illusion2: 1:40pm On Feb 08, 2010
uplawal:

@Ayusman, or u think Jesus is coming back to pat you people on the back, i tell u hes coming to ISLAMISE the whole world and restore ISLAM,and preparation is going on
Very funny indeed.

Its amazing how we only see the world through our own prism. . .Jesus coming to Islamise grin grin grin grin grin,

I'm sure the holy prophet Mohammed(pbuh) will come to christianise the ones remaining after the 'islamisation'. . . . . , . . cheesy
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by muhsin(m): 2:19pm On Feb 08, 2010
Hmm. . .I laugh in French. . . grin grin grin

Who told you (that) Nation of Islam followers are Muslims? They are not Muslims, actually. Or else prove that. Waiting. . .

Thanks
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Nezan(m): 2:40pm On Feb 08, 2010
^^^^ Why is it that muslims tend to deny they own? undecided
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by muhsin(m): 2:49pm On Feb 08, 2010
^^^^ How are they ours? How?
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by g1(m): 3:18pm On Feb 08, 2010
@topic, the level of cognitive dissonance that goes on in the gullible minds of christians and muslims is really amazing,
everyday here on nairaland a deluded christian comes here with news bragging about how a muslim has converted to christianity and likewise a deluded muslim comes here bragging about how a christian has converted to islam, as if that gives any sort of credibility to the rubbish in the bible and quran,
what you all fail to realise is that people are constantly changing faiths everyday, if you google muslims convert to christianity you will get thousands of results likewise if you google christians convert to islam you will get thousands of results, its also the same if you google for anyother religion out there including hindu, judaism, buddhism etc but you all refuse to see the other ones instead you rather focus on your own religion, mumus

i really cant wait for the day the bible and quran will be kept in the same section of the library with harrypotter (fiction) maybe then you will all come back to your senses


peaceout grin cool
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by ayusman16(m): 3:23pm On Feb 08, 2010
@g1, wish i can make sense out of ur post?
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by g1(m): 3:27pm On Feb 08, 2010
ayusman16:

@g1, wish i can make sense out of your post?

how can you? when your thinking faculties have been damaged by religion
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 3:50pm On Feb 08, 2010
g1:

@topic, the level of cognitive dissonance that goes on in the gullible minds of christians and muslims is really amazing,
everyday here on nairaland a deluded christian comes here with news bragging about how a muslim has converted to christianity and likewise a deluded muslim comes here bragging about how a christian has converted to islam, as if that gives any sort of credibility to the rubbish in the bible and quran,

What do atheists do when people leave any of the faiths to join 'atheism'? Is it not the same level of cognitive dissonance that prevails in yours?
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by g1(m): 3:58pm On Feb 08, 2010
viaro:

What do atheists do when people leave any of the faiths to join 'atheism'? Is it not the same level of cognitive dissonance that prevails in yours?

nope it aint the same, we cant careless if anyone left his so called faith to become an atheist, people usually find atheism on their own, after realizing that religion is a sham, u dont see any atheist knocking on your door telling you he wants to evangelise atheism, do you? and please stop saying "join atheism" as if atheism has a belief system like islam and christianity, if atheism is a belief then not collecting stamps is a hobby undecided grin cool
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 4:11pm On Feb 08, 2010
g1:

nope it aint the same, we cant careless if anyone left his so called faith to become an atheist,

I see. It so happens that when banom on Nairaland disavowed atheism, your comrades were very disturbed, no? I don't see them reacting the way you're now apologising for here - at the very least, they ought to have shown indifference - did they? No. And that was prolly why you came to Nairaland to seek out fellow atheists in Abuja: not that I could care two scoobies about that - it just shows your cognitive dissonance well at work.

people usually find atheism on their own, after realizing that religion is a sham, u dont see any atheist knocking on your door telling you he wants to evangelise atheism, do you?

No - you want to know why no thinking atheist would dare my door? They just have to see the name "viaro" and they won't think twice! But that does not mean that atheists never try to convert religious people - they do. Please pretend you're the only atheist who is very oblivious of this fact, and we shall help point out a few.

and please stop saying "join atheism" as if atheism has a belief system like islam and christianity, if atheism is a belief then not collecting stamps is a hobby undecided grin cool

I understand your atheism is a mile off from the atheism bandied about by many atheists. The phrase "Join Atheists of Florida" as an example did not come from me - it came from those who advertise their own form of atheism - go figure.

But there's more -

       *   Join American Atheists (here)

       *   '8.  Join Atheism and make a stand to help all atheists have their voices heard.' (here)

There are more than 200 different examples I could rapidly post by atheists all over the world campaigning and soliciting people to "JOIN ATHEISM" - that is something your own cognitive dissonant folks have been doing and you are here complaining and asking me to stop saying the fact? Not that i could care any less, I just rather wonder why you are happier ignoring the very thing that springs from your own quarters while you go about complaining against others. Enjoy.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Traugott(m): 4:26pm On Feb 08, 2010
@viaro: It looks like whoever makes a statement with reference to you , needs to have done his/her homework thoroughly first. Are you a human encyclopaedia or homo google (that which comes after the homo sapiens) or something?  grin grin shocked cheesy
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 4:32pm On Feb 08, 2010
Traugott:

@viaro: It looks like whoever makes a statement with reference to you , needs to have done his/her homework thoroughly first. Are you a human encyclopaedia or homo google (that which comes after the sapiens) or something? grin grin shocked cheesy

Yep, I live in a neighbourhood where some rascally atheists have learnt never to approach my door (or any door marked "viaro" or "gwms"wink, lol. We play football when I have the time, but they've learnt to just zip it around me (that doesn't mean I can do anything to minimize their swearing and sneering, hehehe). And nope, I told you before I'm just an ordinary fellow with no extraordinary acclaimed 'scholarship', hehehehe!! grin

By the way, amebo means "gossip", or at least it closely refers to one that intrudes into a conversation, refusing to mind their business wink (like I just did, and like you did earlier on)

Oh shooks! I'm outa here! You should've told me by email!! M-e-n. . what's wrong with you?!? grin grin
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by g1(m): 4:33pm On Feb 08, 2010
viaro:

I see. It so happens that when banom on Nairaland disavowed atheism, your comrades were very disturbed, no? I don't see them reacting the way you're now apologising for here - at the very least, they ought to have shown indifference - did they? No. And that was prolly why you came to Nairaland to seek out fellow atheists in Abuja: not that I could care two scoobies about that - it just shows your cognitive dissonance well at work.

as for banom i dont know who he is, i probably joined nairaland after whatever took place with him, so i cant comment

viaro:

No - you want to know why no thinking atheist would dare my door? They just have to see the name "viaro" and they won't think twice! But that does not mean that atheists never try to convert religious people - they do. Please pretend you're the only atheist who is very oblivious of this fact, and we shall help point out a few.

well if people are scared of opening your door kudos to you, when christians and muslims try to ask me why i dont give their religion a look in and i respond with my answers which they claim is blasphemy after which they dont dare approach me anymore, so maybe you have your own points or response like mine which stops people from knocking on your door

viaro:

I understand your atheism is a mile off from the atheism bandied about by many atheists. The phrase "Join Atheists of Florida" as an example did not come from me - it came from those who advertise their own form of atheism - go figure.

But there's more -

       *   Join American Atheists (here)

       *   '8.  Join Atheism and make a stand to help all atheists have their voices heard.' (here)

There are more than 200 different examples I could rapidly post by atheists all over the world campaigning and soliciting people to "JOIN ATHEISM" - that is something your own cognitive dissonant folks have been doing and you are here complaining and asking me to stop saying the fact? Not that i could care any less, I just rather wonder why you are happier ignoring the very thing that springs from your own quarters while you go about complaining against others. Enjoy.

you hit the nail on the head when you said my brand of atheism is different, i cant care if one becomes atheist or not, but if a christian approaches me and tell me how cant i believe in jesus since he was miraculously born of a virgin, then i have a right to reply that i dont agree he was born of a virgin but rather his mother had sex with someone, same way that muslims who now know i am an atheist tell me how can i leave islam after i have tasted it dont i know the quran is an infallible book, then i have a right to respond that i dont agree the quran is infallible and i can produce a book like the quran,

thanks for your replies and they are very thought provoking and intelligent
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Traugott(m): 4:41pm On Feb 08, 2010
@VIARO: grin No vex, I know what to do next time. Oya, sharp, sharp, you can edit the unwanted part out of your post. I am doing same. wink
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 4:54pm On Feb 08, 2010
g1:

as for banom i dont know who he is, i probably joined nairaland after whatever took place with him, so i cant comment

That's okay. I wasn't asking you to know everything and everyone on Nairaland - nobody is a walking archive. Yet, the point stands that your quip was incorrect about atheist reactions on their own cognitive dissonance.

well if people are scared of opening your door kudos to you,

Eh, dude. .  I didn't talk about "opening" doors - I rather hinted that no atheist with a thinking head would DARE my door. Newbies are always welcome with a smile, but they quickly learn not to brag their hollowness around me (and no, I don't snarl at them. .  I rather take the time to educate them on their bragado around me).

when christians and muslims try to ask me why i dont give their religion a look in and i respond with my answers which they claim is blasphemy after which they dont dare approach me anymore, so maybe you have your own points or response like mine which stops people from knocking on your door

Nope, I don't do the 'blasphemy' thing - it may suit you, and that's the best shot I noticed you often pander about on Nairaland. As you can see in the few exchanges we've had in this thread, viaro prefers pointing facts out to you that attest to what atheists are doing that you have had no clues about hitherto.

you hit the nail on the head when you said my brand of atheism is different, i cant care if one becomes atheist or not, but if a christian approaches me and tell me how cant i believe in jesus since he was miraculously born of a virgin, then i have a right to reply that i dont agree he was born of a virgin but rather his mother had intimacy with someone, same way that muslims who now know i am an atheist tell me how can i leave islam after i have tasted it dont i know the quran is an infallible book, then i have a right to respond that i dont agree the quran is infallible and i can produce a book like the quran,

It is okay to simply say that you don't believe in Christ, and you don't have to put up untrue statements simply because you want to annoy your discussants and get them quickly away from your door. That shows weakness rather than calm resolve and resort to intelligence, I'm afraid.

Now as regards your brand of atheism, it may help next time to simply qualify yours and not stick it out in broad terms for 'atheism'. Since you asked me to stop saying "join atheism", you had no clue that other atheists have been very busy actually advertising, soliciting, campaigning, and actually proselytizing religious people to join atheism. Indeed, Dan Barker's "Evangelistic Atheism" was tagged "Leading Believers Astray in Freethought Today", and I wondered why any sane person would be so mischievous trying to lead any other person astray. I don't know how true this is (and please don't go by any rumours), but I hear that when Barker was challenged and called up on that, he promptly removed it from his website - a click there would show 'Page Not Found' (as I just checked to verify).

But in all this, I'm not out to dumb your worldview. .  no, that is not my strain. I like people to have their say and live their lives as long as they don't go out of their way to castigate the worldviews of other people - which is why I'm not rodiculing yours.

thanks for your replies and they are very thought provoking and intelligent

Thanks for your consideration. Cheers.
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by viaro: 4:57pm On Feb 08, 2010
Traugott:

@VIARO: grin No vex, I know what to do next time. Oya, sharp, sharp, you can edit the unwanted part out of your post. I am doing same. wink

Hehehe. . Traugott, take it easy - I was not vexing. I learn by my mistakes and ignorance, and perhaps would just leave that there. But if you insist, then I'll edit. grin grin

BTW, when we talk sometime later, I have a list I'd like you to help straighten out for me. Deal? wink
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by Traugott(m): 5:12pm On Feb 08, 2010
cool Deal, Viaro. Deal. Thanks!
Re: Former Nation Of Islam Follower Turns To Christ by g1(m): 6:05pm On Feb 08, 2010
viaro:


It is okay to simply say that you don't believe in Christ, and you don't have to put up untrue statements simply because you want to annoy your discussants and get them quickly away from your door.

i used to do that like you said, my brand of atheism used to be live and let live but, then anytime i tell a christian that i am an atheist he then feels the need to tell me about the bible verse that god says the fool that says in his heart there is no god, why then does that christian feel i dont have the right to insult him and telll him that it is him/her and his god that are fools?

thanks for your replies

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