Religious houses should be heavily taxed,first by the government, like the tobacco company.Their heads should be imprisoned and then humanity will be freed from their chains.Humans are just too intelligent for this, we have suffered enough from all these over-religious entities, i just wish i can convey the deepness of my thoughts.

pls air your grievances. what has religion done to you?

generally, religion is a product of frustration and deception.

is religion the same as christianity

Yes,it is.

unitee:

is religion the same as christianity

in my opinoin and experence am not frustrated nor deluded. though I will admiot there are abuses. I speak 4 my own faith. i have no problem with it. Other faiths to me are false and so I under stand if u see the as madness

CHRISTIANITY(at least the one I practice) IS A RRELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND NOT RELIGION.Religion is just the following of a bunch of rules.

Religion is MOST CERTAINLY a problem, especially in Africa. Need I say Boko Haram to get some attention?

What I still don't get is why Africans, despite having faught for their freedom against the 'West', still insist on keeping the religion(s) they imposed on us. Without colonialism, we Sub-Saharan Africans wouldn't be Christians, nor Muslims, nor Jews. . .

Hello pls what is ur problem with(true ) Christianity?

iyinade, i swear am not stalking u, but i cant help reading ur posts with admiration for u and also 4 my self, u simply grabbed the bull by its balls, i keep asking myself the same question, y do africans after years of slavery n colonisation still hold on to christianity etc like it originated from them, as far as i am concerned the first chapter of genesis about the creation of the world is a jewish version of oduduwa and abatala the yoruba version of creation

vivaladiva:

iyinade, i swear am not stalking u, but i cant help reading your posts with admiration for u and also 4 my self, u simply grabbed the bull by its balls, i keep asking myself the same question, y do africans after years of slavery n colonisation still hold on to christianity etc like it originated from them, as far as i am concerned the first chapter of genesis about the creation of the world is a jewish version of oduduwa and abatala the yoruba version of creation

EVERYDAY i find myself wondering about thesame thing.

Hinduism is an acceptable religion.
Judaism is an acceptable religion.
Christianity, Islam, all these other religions are well accepted.
What isnt?
All the original Afroreligions.

We will never know what the truth is. And of course, as I type this, I type against the conscience within me that is telling me that even as I am merely doubting my faith, I am doing something wrong, but is it because it truely is wrong to question Christianity by associating as a tool of segregation and domination by white supremacists? Who knows?

But everyday, I question this within myself. I love God. I believe that God exists. I believe in that other supreme being that is greater than I.
But I wonder everyday, If we werent all fed some bull fruit designed to enslave our thoughts. Could this be the best slavery tool ever made? Even more effective at enslaving us than bleachcreams, musiclabels, brandnames and hairweaves, (but that is another thread)?

Why isnt our religion good enough for us? Why does it have to be associated with darkness?

I pray that someday, I will gain a better understanding.

akebulan, i would have prayed for you too only i dont pray, bt today at 7 pm facing north i shall call ur name three times and hope ur wish is granted

vivaladiva:

akebulan, i would have prayed for you too only i dont pray,   bt today at 7 pm facing north i shall call your name three times and hope your wish is  granted

They say curiosity killed the cat but I'd like to know,
why the north?


BTW THankSSS a bunch, for caring.

wld u rather i face east or west, just tell me ur pref and i will change my direction wiv immidiate effect and authomatic alacrity, remember its all about u

lmao you're jokes. Should I assume then that it makes no difference to you which side you face? Okay.

Why call my name three times? Is 3 significant for a reason?

may i remind u that 3 is the magic nos, but 7 on the other hand is a lucky number
i just feel that after the third time i wld start to feel like a bit like a w=a=ker, so 3 is good 4 me, but i cld just about stretch it to 4 if it wld make u feel beta
lik i said in my religion anything is allowed, so long as it makes u happy,

lol. You pray (or wish) as you please. But do, because I do wish because I need a deeper understanding of this. Thanks

i have a feeling ur wish has already come true, but ur just too scared to open up ur presents
u r very welcom

vivaladiva:

iyinade, i swear am not stalking u, but i cant help reading your posts with admiration for u and also 4 my self, u simply grabbed the bull by its balls

Haha. . . Nice of you. I'm glad some of my inputs are taken into consideration on these boards. I don't claim to know it all. But there are somethings that I wish [i]all [/i]eyes would open up to and acknowledge.
Oh btw, it is Iyin[b]e[/b]d[b]a[/b].

chinedumo:

Hello pls what is your problem with(true ) Christianity?

If your question was addressed to me, then I'd start by asking you what exactly is "true Christianity". Because with just that adjective, 'true', I can point out the very problem I have with Christianity. It is a stream of thought that isn't even homogenous. It has way too many branches: Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox, Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Mennonite, Apostolic, Presbyterian, Marianist and what not. And those branches all hail from one source: the Bible.

A problem with interpretation, much?
Humans are flawed. Humans created religion. Thus religion is flawed.

Pure logic of contamination if you ask me. ^^'

Religion disciplined us inside out. I never doubted God and i'm extremely proud of the faith i have in Him.

Karl max was once said "Religion is the opium of the masses" and I think to a large degree he may have been right!!!

Iyineda:

Humans are flawed. Humans created religion. Thus religion is flawed.

Pure logic of contamination if you ask me. ^^'

I don't get it. But maybe it's cause I have no idea what "logic of contamination" is. .

But does this make sense to you? Humans are alive. Humans created shoes. Thus shoes are alive.

vivaladiva:

i have a feeling your wish has already come true, but your just too scared to open up your presents
u r very welcom

lol presents. PRESENTS?! Its mind buggling. Its troubling. Its, and you call it a present? LOL anyway, thanks, twas nice chatting.

Krayola:

I don't get it. But maybe it's cause I have no idea what "logic of contamination" is. . 

But does this make sense to you? Humans are alive. Humans created shoes. Thus shoes are alive.

"Logic of contamination" is an expression I came up with just to assert my argument, so I won't blame you for not getting it. Nonetheless, that wasn't the main aspect of the point I was trying to make.

Besides, the counter-example you used in your last sentence is flawed (you're only human, it's ok) because "humans are alive" is a common fact; that logic cannot be applied to shoes because the definition of an object is that it is lifeless. You didn't catch me saying: Humans are alive. Humans created religion. Thus religion is alive.

You could have at least come up with a more decent counter-example.

vivaladiva:

iyinade, i swear am not stalking u, but i cant help reading your posts with admiration for u and also 4 my self, u simply grabbed the bull by its balls, i keep asking myself the same question, y do africans after years of slavery n colonisation still hold on to christianity etc like it originated from them, as far as i am concerned the first chapter of genesis about the creation of the world is a jewish version of oduduwa and abatala the yoruba version of creation

I wonder seriously why someone will prefer to take the bull my the balls instead of by the horns. this call for brain cracking

religion is slavery.

If your question was addressed to me, then I'd start by asking you what exactly is "true Christianity". Because with just that adjective, 'true', I can point out the very problem I have with Christianity. It is a stream of thought that isn't even homogenous. It has way too many branches: Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox, Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Mennonite, Apostolic, Presbyterian, Marianist and what not. And those branches all hail from one source: the Bible.

A problem with interpretation, much?
Humans are flawed. Humans created religion. Thus religion is flawed.

Pure logic of contamination if you ask me. ^^'
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I can say authoritatively that u do not know true Christianity. I am not saying this to mock you. So please don't be offended.If u do u wont be talking like this. U might see yourself as an intellectual person open minded broad minded very analytical knowledgeable exposed not naive . All well and good. but listen i have heard all your argument and u have failed to build a doubt in me about xtianity. Like i said b4 i know there are false prophets false teaching and abuses. but i tell u the genuine is still there unaffected by the rot and rust

OBLONG:

religion is slavery.

christ the author and finisher of christianity said " u shall know the truth and the truth shall set u free" I amm a free man in christ jesus. Ask me how?

pcmecom:

Karl max was once said "Religion is the opium of the masses" and I think to a large degree he may have been right!!!

U are right when u say religion is the opium of da masses but take note true Christianity is not the opium of the masses. the holy book says " the road to eternal life is narrow and straight and few are those who go by." "many are called but few are chosen" if the "apparent" flocking to Christianity bothers u. take heart the tribulation and persecution period is at hand of "the body of christ" then u will see an "apparent" departure from the faith. I call it apparent cos they were never with us and never one of us but when it seems conducive and comfortable they all apparently flock into Christianity both when the going gets tough they will depart>
Mark my words>

chinedumo:

I can say authoritatively that u do not know true Christianity.

No doubt about that. I'm yet to have a proper definition of what "true Christianity" really is. That's why I wrote that one post asking for clarification.

chinedumo:

I am not saying this to mock you. So please don't be offended.

Hey, we're cool. I'm not offended. I'm here to have a frank discussion with civilized people.

chinedumo:

but listen i have heard all your argument and u have failed to build a doubt in me about xtianity.

My point was never to "build a doubt" in you, at all. I just tried to point out that defining what "true religion" is could be a neck-breaker notably because of the various existing branches of the religion.

chinedumo:

Like i said b4 i know there are false prophets false teaching and abuses. but i tell u the genuine is still there unaffected by the rot and rust

Now, here are a few questions for you: How do you pinpoint "false teaching and abuses" in the same religion? What is genuine and what isn't? Why is it that the original source, the Bible, cannot be embraced and accepted homogeneously by all those who claim to be Christians? Why are there so many variants (not exceptions since there are SO MANY)? You tell me.

Iyineda:

"Logic of contamination" is an expression I came up with just to assert my argument, so I won't blame you for not getting it. Nonetheless, that wasn't the main aspect of the point I was trying to make.

Besides, the counter-example you used in your last sentence is flawed (you're only human, it's ok) because "humans are alive" is a common fact; that logic cannot be applied to shoes because the definition of an object is that it is lifeless. You didn't catch me saying: Humans are alive. Humans created religion. Thus religion is alive.

You could have at least come up with a more decent counter-example.

I agree with u that religion is the creation of man only to the exception of true christianity( that is if u call it also religion) cos christianity is the creation of the Perfect God in partnership with a perfect man. this partnership is manifest in person of Jesus.

[/quote]Like i said b4 i know there are false prophets false teaching and abuses. but i tell u the genuine is still there unaffected by the rot and rust

Now, here are a few questions for you: How do you pinpoint "false teaching and abuses" in the same religion? What is genuine and what isn't? Why is it that the original source, the Bible, cannot be embraced and accepted homogeneously by all those who claim to be Christians? Why are there so many variants (not exceptions since there are SO MANY)? You tell me[quote]

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I will say sth here. Have u wondered why there are so many transilation of the bible so many apparent variations of xtianity. consider is there any other thing on earth that is treated after this sort. why?. Importance is not attached to unimportant things unless they think it important.