Why are you blaming Turai? When you have a lame duck as acting president who would be so dunce to announce to Nigeria that he will go and receive instruction from the wife of the president and the whole fec meeting should not hold, Mumu man,

Ibime:

Ottawa is a neanderthal. . . why waste your words?

I am beginning to agree more and more - the type of nonsense I'm reading is simply mind boggling.

PS - I think she just discovered the word 'executive'.

Jonathan better grow some cojones. . . .if Turai gives any 'stories' and he can't see Yar'adua directly, he should call her bluff and take charge of things.

Yar'adua still has enough loyalists in the FEC and Presidency to be causing issues - Jonathan might need to clear out the opposition for him to have a chance at consolidating power.

otawa:

Her husband is the executive President of Nigeria.

She can refuse access to anyone to see him.

She can pass any message to anyone and says it is from her husband.

That is why when you voting for President, you are also voting for the WIFE!

They are called 'First Family'

Thinking like this will continue to set us back into the prehistoric years!!!

Alxmyr:

Why are you blaming Turai? When you have a lame duck as acting president who would be so dunce to announce to Nigeria that he will go and receive instruction from the wife of the president and the whole fec meeting should not hold, Mumu man,

This is exactly the problem we have.

Our leaders are not our own. They think they own Nigeria, but one day (very soon) wind go blow!!!

And that yansh will be a very sorry sight.

I just pray it doesnt get bloody.

wow!!

wat a story,

wat a country!!

Its a marathon and not a sprint

Turai Yar'adua will eventually come short.

mikeansy:

Its a marathon and not a sprint

Turai Yar'adua will eventually come short.

She has opened a pandoras box she will not be able to close. . . she would not be able to do all these without the military taking control of Aso Rock and the Presidents seat at the FEC. . . thats why I believe whats going on right now is a military coup. . . if na lie, has anyone seen Jonathan today?. . . is he not surrounded by these same soldiers?

Ibime:

She has opened a pandoras box she will not be able to close. . . she would not be able to do all these without the military taking control of Aso Rock and the Presidents seat at the FEC. . . thats why I believe whats going on right now is a military coup. . . if na lie, has anyone seen Jonathan today?. . . is he not surrounded by these same soldiers?

I don't think so - there is a power struggle, primarily because Jonathan was caught unawares and Turai still has many loyalists in the Presidency. Jonathan must either TURN those people his way or replace them swiftly to increase his power base.

Failure to do that will result in the rug being pulled from underneath his feet.

debosky:
Jonathan must either TURN those people his way or replace them swiftly to increase his power base.

According to the House of Reps, Jonathan is still Acting President and can replace these ministers. . .hence I see no reason why he has not moved the FEC to declare Yara incapacitated. . . . yet he cannot meet the FEC cos soldiers have taken over the building. . . .  according to Segun Adeniyi, he is back to being Vice-President. . . if he sacks them ministers or moves such a motion, do you think the soldiers in his residence would let him go free?

As we speak 2 battallions of the Army have been deployed to Abuja to help Turai in her coup.

Do you agree that military pressure is being brought to bear on Jonathan right now or not?

Lol

Ibime:

According to the House of Reps, Jonathan is still Acting President and can replace these ministers. . .hence I see no reason why he has not moved the FEC to declare Yara incapacitated. . . . yet he cannot meet the FEC cos soldiers have taken over the building. . . .  according to Segun Adeniyi, he is back to being Vice-President. . . if he sacks them ministers or moves such a motion, do you think the soldiers in his residence would let him go free?

As we speak 2 battallions of the Army have been deployed to Abuja to help Turai in her coup.

Do you agree that military pressure is being brought to bear on Jonathan right now or not?

The coup is already in full swing right now http://www.saharareporters.com/real-news/sr-headlines/5284-the-turai-coup-detat-how-turai-yaradua-seized-power.html

Ibime:

According to the House of Reps, Jonathan is still Acting President and can replace these ministers. . .hence I see no reason why he has not moved the FEC to declare Yara incapacitated. . . . yet he cannot meet the FEC cos soldiers have taken over the building. . . .  according to Segun Adeniyi, he is back to being Vice-President. . . if he sacks them ministers or moves such a motion, do you think the soldiers in his residence would let him go free?

As we speak 2 battallions of the Army have been deployed to Abuja to help Turai in her coup.

Do you agree that military pressure is being brought to bear on Jonathan right now or not?

All sorts of pressure is being brought to bear on Jonathan, BUT I don't think it's a military coup. It's all about whom the forces and the ministers are loyal to. Clearly not many are loyal to Jonathan yet, hence Turai's ability to come in and turn things around so rapidly in her favour.

If Jonathan is a man let him sack ministers and make it public and then we'll see what Turai and co can do. Staying quiet and being a coward is not what we need right now - we need someone with the courage to take charge in the face of this nonsense by Yardie's supporters.

Pharoh:

The coup is already in full swing right now http://www.saharareporters.com/real-news/sr-headlines/5284-the-turai-coup-detat-how-turai-yaradua-seized-power.html

data base error mate

debosky:

All sorts of pressure is being brought to bear on Jonathan, BUT I don't think it's a military coup. It's all about whom the forces and the ministers are loyal to. Clearly not many are loyal to Jonathan yet, hence Turai's ability to come in and turn things around so rapidly in her favour.

If Jonathan is a man let him sack ministers and make it public and then we'll see what Turai and co can do. Staying quiet and being a coward is not what we need right now - we need someone with the courage to take charge in the face of this nonsense by Yardie's supporters.

Jonathan want to play the good boy hence he don't want anybody to see him as enermy but he will be ejected by those he call friends at last. He has no game and itz very clear on his dull face. Do he has personal advicers at all? We are watching b4 weekend everything will be in the open.

debosky:

All sorts of pressure is being brought to bear on Jonathan, BUT I don't think it's a military coup. It's all about whom the forces and the ministers are loyal to. Clearly not many are loyal to Jonathan yet, hence Turai's ability to come in and turn things around so rapidly in her favour.

If Jonathan is a man let him sack ministers and make it public and then we'll see what Turai and co can do. Staying quiet and being a coward is not what we need right now - we need someone with the courage to take charge in the face of this nonsense by Yardie's supporters.

Can he do all these with soldiers at his gate?

If its not a military coup, what are fresh soldiers doing on the scene?

At the moment, I can tell you that nothing Jonathan is saying or doing is of his own will.

If not for military strength, what gives Turai the leverage to overrule the House of Reps?

Dont worry, you will find out more tomorrow.

No doubt, this is a military-backed coup.

Ibime:

Can he do all these with soldiers at his gate?

If its not a military coup, what are fresh soldiers doing on the scene?

At the moment, I can tell you that nothing Jonathan is saying or doing is of his own will.

Dont worry, you will find out more tomorrow.

No doubt, this is a military-backed coup.

Which soldiers at his gate? I don't believe all that - he still held a meeting with the ministers. . . .did the soldiers stop that?

The fact is, part of the presidential power is ability to control the armed forces - Jonathan has said nothing except to tell the ministers he'll be talking to Turai tonight. . . .as long as the NASS back him as Acting President, there is no issue and he should ACT like a president and not a lame duck.

This is the moment where we find out if Jonathan has any guts or if he is a coward who just wants to keep his perks of power as a spare tire VP.

debosky:

Which soldiers at his gate? I don't believe all that - he still held a meeting with the ministers. . . .did the soldiers stop that?

If the President is stopped from holding FEC meeting due to soldiers securing the Presidential seat in the assembly hall, what definition would you give to that?

Open your eye o. . . as 4 me, I go call am coup.

Ibime:

If the President is stopped from holding FEC meeting due to soldiers securing the Presidential seat in the assembly hall, what definition would you give to that?

Open your eye o. . . as 4 me, I go call am coup.

Does holding a seat prevent Jonathan from holding a meeting? What about all the other meetings he held sitting on his VP seat? Did they not hold?

The fact is, Jonathan was caught unawares by Yar'adua's return and doesn't know what to do - how can he hold a meeting when he's still trying to adjust to how he was outmaneuvered by Turai??

Sending a delegation to Saudi while the president was planning a comeback? That's enough to throw him off base IMO.

In the next 24-48 hours we'll see if he has any guts of his own - No one can stop a whole VP from making comments or reaching out to the press to say he is being held against his will. If he doesn't speak, he's being a coward and trying not to rock the boat.

Old boy, read this:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-403925.0.html

I really don't know what exactly goes on in the seat of power sometimes.

Is it really possible that a status quo can continue where Jonathan can not even confirm the existence of Yar'adua?

Turai Yar'adua and co do not control the army as you guys think.
I think Turai is simply boxing herself into a little corner. She had more excuse for delay tactics while at Saudi Arabia not in Abuja.
I think before Friday next week this whole drama will come to a head. all I ask for Jonathan to do is to have a trusted security operative heading the NSA.Though I do agree that Jonathan overplays the nice boy card too much but the fact is that he can only win if he still has the moral argument on his side.

I think now that Yar'adua is in Abuja, I doubt anybody will tell the acting President of this country not to see Yar'adua. On what basis? If he can't see Yar'adua then all members of the FEC owe Jonathan an explanation why Yar'adua should not be declared incapacitated or dead or unexistent. Its that Simple!!! I think the onus is on the Yar'aduas to prove that UMYA is fit enough to be of any use to this country. Otherwise the FEC Ministers should be made to state their case in a live broadcast why they think an unexistent President should keep running the country?

Secondly, I will really be shocked to know that a Professional Army nurtured for 8years by OBJ under the leadership of men like Martin Luthar Agwai, Andrew Owoye Azazi, Alexander Ogomudia, Luka Yusuf and now Paul dike/Danbazua can just within 3years begin to operate like an extension of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

I still doubt that the Army as it is currently constituted will support outright illegality. Its possible to send confusing signals when you have divided loyalty. But there is an extent to these things. I don't want to sound complacent or aloof but Sarki Mukhtar can easily order a strong military presence in Abuja on a day Yar'adua is coming back to send a coded message to the masses but yet be able to explain it away in retrospect to Jonathan as mere routine security operation. These soldiers will carry out these instructions and most times will be excused because Yar'adua is still the susbtantive head of state.

This is simply why Jonathan needs an NSA he can trust. But aside that I don't think the Army will interfere if Jonathan exerts his authority and begins to ask questions of Tura's behaviour. Except a group of Juniour officers decide to instigate a Coup which will be a totally different kettle of fish.

Ibime:

Old boy, read this:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-403925.0.html

Just read it bro. . . .sounds like Jonathan is biding his time to SEE Yar'adua or at least Turai before showing his hand.

That's my interpretation of the situation. Jpnathan would be a FOOL to obey orderlies and ordinary CSO from Yar'adua when he has been declared acting president. The onus is on him to make a decision after meeting with Turai - if she can't offer any direct access to the president, then Jonathan takes orders from no one - if the military want to interfere then both of them will be out of a job, both Yardie and Jonathan.

presido1:

data base error mate
Jonathan want to play the good boy hence he don't want anybody to see him as enermy but he will be ejected by those he call friends at last. He has no game and itz very clear on his dull face. Do he has personal advicers at all?  We are watching b4 weekend everything will be in the open.

Here is it https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-403912.0.html#top

One of the Kitchen Cabinet's game plan was to wage a psychological battle against Jonathan.

The return of Turai and Yar'adua is nothing more than an attempt to hypnotise Jonathan into inaction.

He should show some Leadership and trust me Turai will pack and head to Katsina to burry her husband. Its unfortunate that she has chose to use the lifeless body of her husband as political tool. Talk about the wife from hell.

The bottom line is Jonathan plays his good boy attitude to a fault and he is looking like a dud now. A smart guy should have changed the face of FEC within 48 hours of taking that "acting" prefix. At least he know all those standing on his way and playing along that Yara is healthy while he is not. Flush them immediately and stamp your authority as the head of state. If Yara come back good if he did not good as well. I think both him and UMYA is not worthy to be in Aso rock.

Brethren please do understand the situation Jonathan had found himself, there is nothing Jonathan can do right now about the developing situations concerning sister Turai controlling things. I do not expect Jonathan to do otherwise at the moment, but i do like his style till now. If Jonathan push too further to get things done these same cabal will label him as treason "this is naija don't forget". Till now Jonathan has not been accused for anything except that he has no much power to execute his responsibilities. I would rather advice Jonathan to keep cool these whole story will soon fade away and the true reality of things will come to lime light. God still owns Nigeria don't forget, He (GOD) had already made plans as to what happen next, only that we do not know it, but lets wait and see.

Jonathan doesn't want to die. These politicians are enemies of progress and we just bend over and take it. it sucks man,

If it is true that SSS ransacked Goodluck's office, it cud simply mean they have planted some devices there to spy on him, now if Goodluck shows his hand early, the forces against Goodluck will trigger plan B, which i suspect is a coup. I think some people are hell bent that Goodluck doesnot take over, anyone else but Goodluck.

If I had a gun and d boldness, I know where I will be traveling to right now.

I found the argument in support of Jonathan laughable. Many agreed he could not do anything, while no one seems to see that Jonathan lack wit, dexterity and wisdom required to hold the office he occpied. He is absolute example of a mumu in Nigeria vocabulary.
Ask yourself, was Atiku not a vice-president? If the personality and time is interchange, do anyone in their widest imagination think that Atiku Abubakar would fold his hands and act as a weakling?

This is exactly why these guys from Niger Delta who come to Nairaland to make baseless case should know that as long as Nigeria remains, they will continue to be on the backseat. They lack both in wisdom and wit to wield power constructively. They are lacking in intellectual challenge and need to start a process of re-educating their people and their leaders.
Simply put, Jonathan is a weakling. And no weakling can rule Nigeria. Gbam

Alxmyr:

I found the argument in support of Jonathan laughable. Many agreed he could not do anything, while no one seems to see that Jonathan lack wit, dexterity and wisdom required to hold the office he occpied. He is absolute example of a mumu in Nigeria vocabulary.
Ask yourself, was Atiku not a vice-president? If the personality and time is interchange, do anyone in their widest imagination think that Atiku Abubakar would fold his hands and act as a weakling?

This is exactly why these guys from Niger Delta who come to Nairaland to make baseless case should know that as long as Nigeria remains, they will continue to be on the backseat. They lack both in wisdom and wit to wield power constructively. They are lacking in intellectual challenge and need to start a process of re-educating their people and their leaders.
Simply put, Jonathan is a weakling. And no weakling can rule Nigeria. Gbam

take am easy oh