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Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by JARUSHUB: 5:47pm On Feb 19, 2018
There has been a historic and general discrimination against Nigerian polytechnic graduates, obviously to the disheartenment, discomfort and chagrin of these graduates. To judge if polytechnic graduates are on par with University graduates, one needs to understand the fundamental difference and aims between both types of institutions. Universities are degree-awarding institutions created by the Nigerian government to focus on research work and train students on the theoretical reasons and logic behind a certain field, they offer mainly non-vocational subjects. As a university graduate, you are usually a pseudo-scholar.

Polytechnics on the other hand are diploma-awarding institutions created by the Nigerian government to focus on practical application of the theories of respective fields and some of the courses offered are in vocational subjects. As a polytechnic graduate, you are usually a professional technician. Outside Nigeria, some polytechnics are known to be heavily involved in research work as well as practical application, but to the best of my knowledge, I think the Nigerian education system is structured differently and the “Universities of Technology” (like FUTO, FUTA etc.) cover these research spaces, not the Polytechnics. In Nigeria, entry into Polytechnics usually requires a lower academic standard than entry into Universities. Furthermore the end product of a Polytechnic education, a diploma, is inferior in value to the end product of a University education, an academic degree. As a matter of fact, in the UK, the highest diploma awarded in a Polytechnic, a HND, will allow the recipient register for the 2nd year of a 3 year degree. This clearly states that the value is short of a degree.

The reality is that scholarly work is intellectually more stretching than practical applications. All these do not mean that the Polytechnic graduate is necessarily inferior or irrelevant; it just means their avenue is not the pinnacle of academic challenge. Neither does it mean all university graduates are better academically than all Polytechnic graduates. As a matter of fact, many countries in Europe like Germany have a system that kind of blends the 2 format together, i.e. students learn both the theory and the application over many years. That is why unlike the UK where students graduate at around 21, in Germany, students graduate at 25 years plus.


In a sane society, which Nigeria is not one, both graduates have their importance in helping to develop the economy and would fit right into the economic system and the rampant stupidity of making polytechnic graduates feel less human would not exist. Yes, a university degree is superior but practical application is important, what the government needs to do is stop this stupid discrimination plus also provide an avenue for poly-graduates (that choose) to progress over many years, whether through classroom-based teaching or practical application, to qualify for a degree-level certification to put them on par with university graduates. All the discriminatory bar on Poly-graduates from progressing to the peak in civil service must cease and be banned.

http://www.jarushub.com/sagamite-are-polytechnics-on-par-with-universities/

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by jossy404: 7:44pm On Feb 19, 2018
Nice write up!!! Only if the Goverment will wake up to their duty.

Am still wondering d jobless people that are still comparing this two mode of education.

Each has its merit and de-merit. Both still have to look for jobs.


But wait ooo watz d benefit of ftc ? And y people they hustle to get ftc? If nobody answer me i will start pooing on top all this people below......

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by greatestboss(m): 7:45pm On Feb 19, 2018
Hmmm.. One thing I know is that Tertiary Education is shit in this country.. I don't know about the rest..

So close to FTC cry

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by SaAbbas(m): 7:45pm On Feb 19, 2018
Can i tell you guys something?
Polytechnic and Universities are technically not the same.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Olaitqn: 7:45pm On Feb 19, 2018
That's crazy.

Polytechnics are equipped with less facilities and at such churn out less prepared graduates than the well equipped Universities

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Nukilia: 7:45pm On Feb 19, 2018
Both are useless institutions in Nigeria

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by kushercain: 7:45pm On Feb 19, 2018
the koko is the education, is 4 yrs in a poly equal to 4 yrs especially here in naija that both have them have severe k leg
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by 12submarine(m): 7:46pm On Feb 19, 2018
They have never been and can never be. Both are academic institutions with different mandates, different goals, different instructional materials and different entry requirements. University graduates are to polytechnic graduates what medical doctors are to nurses.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by anochuko01(m): 7:46pm On Feb 19, 2018
lool
truth is....education in Nigeria is rubbish.
poly o, uni o, all na rubbish.
except your parents send you to LBS or covenant university.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Mobsync(m): 7:46pm On Feb 19, 2018
Polytechnics used to be useful but not anymore. In fact, in the UK (where we copied the system), polytechnics have been upgraded to universities. But not here.

The few polys that have been upgraded (eg: Mapoly, Abeokuta) are still polytechnics in character and mentality and only bear university in name.

The Nigerian educational system is in shambles and needs serious rejuvenation.

JARUSHUB:


In a sane society, which Nigeria is not one, both graduates have their importance in helping to develop the economy and would fit right into the economic system and the rampant stupidity of making polytechnic graduates feel less human would not exist.

The bolded got me cracking. Thank God we know we're not a sane society. grin grin grin


pinnket:
shocked

In a lay mans understanding... Can you compare Agege bread with Leventis bread?

Even though they serve same purpose, branding and packaging matters to some extent..

I hope it's not universities you're referring to as Leventis bread? Please don't.

In Nigeria, Universities and Polytechnics are both Agege bread. The difference is that they sell one with nylon while you need to bring your own nylon when you want to buy the other one. grin grin grin

ify84:
to stop this discrimination of HND and B.Sc ... Can we have HND changed to B.Nc (bachelor of National Certificate) or B.Nd (Bachelor of National Diploma)..

Just give them B.Pb (Bachelor of Polybag). grin grin grin

KeenMind:
In Nigeria, both Institutions are epitome of unimaginable failure.

More pitiable are the chest-beating graduates of Nigerian Universities who think they're better off than their counterparts in the Polytechnics.

To me, Universities and Polytechnics in Nigeria are like two knifes in the house of the unfortunate - the one with a good handle is blunt, the one with sharp edges has a spoilt handle.

You've said it all.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Uyi168: 7:46pm On Feb 19, 2018
The comparism is unnecessary,reason being that the two institutions were set up for different reasons..and to serve different purposes

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Flexherbal(m): 7:47pm On Feb 19, 2018
... both graduates have their importance in helping to develop the economy and would fit right into the economic system and the rampant stupidity of making polytechnic graduates feel less human would not exist.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Nobody: 7:47pm On Feb 19, 2018
shocked





In a lay mans understanding... Can you compare Agege bread with Leventis bread?

Even though they serve same purpose, branding and packaging matters to some extent..
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by OboOlora(f): 7:47pm On Feb 19, 2018
LOL
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by visijo(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
what is the essence ?
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by dogstyle007(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
hmmmm
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by wwwtortoise(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
See the kind stupid question Op dey ask.

Instead of you to channel your aproko towards

employment and job opportunity related topics, you are

here trying to plant further discrimination.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by greatestboss(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by fascowilly(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
Am praying for wisdom to make me a successful man, I have seen both graduates pushing cart here when they were pushed to wall by unemployment.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Bluffly: 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
JARUSHUB:
There has been a historic and general discrimination against Nigerian polytechnic graduates, obviously to the disheartenment, discomfort and chagrin of these graduates. To judge if polytechnic graduates are on par with University graduates, one needs to understand the fundamental difference and aims between both types of institutions. Universities are degree-awarding institutions created by the Nigerian government to focus on research work and train students on the theoretical reasons and logic behind a certain field, they offer mainly non-vocational subjects. As a university graduate, you are usually a pseudo-scholar.

Polytechnics on the other hand are diploma-awarding institutions created by the Nigerian government to focus on practical application of the theories of respective fields and some of the courses offered are in vocational subjects. As a polytechnic graduate, you are usually a professional technician. Outside Nigeria, some polytechnics are known to be heavily involved in research work as well as practical application, but to the best of my knowledge, I think the Nigerian education system is structured differently and the “Universities of Technology” (like FUTO, FUTA etc.) cover these research spaces, not the Polytechnics. In Nigeria, entry into Polytechnics usually requires a lower academic standard than entry into Universities. Furthermore the end product of a Polytechnic education, a diploma, is inferior in value to the end product of a University education, an academic degree. As a matter of fact, in the UK, the highest diploma awarded in a Polytechnic, a HND, will allow the recipient register for the 2nd year of a 3 year degree. This clearly states that the value is short of a degree.

The reality is that scholarly work is intellectually more stretching than practical applications. All these do not mean that the Polytechnic graduate is necessarily inferior or irrelevant; it just means their avenue is not the pinnacle of academic challenge. Neither does it mean all university graduates are better academically than all Polytechnic graduates. As a matter of fact, many countries in Europe like Germany have a system that kind of blends the 2 format together, i.e. students learn both the theory and the application over many years. That is why unlike the UK where students graduate at around 21, in Germany, students graduate at 25 years plus.


In a sane society, which Nigeria is not one, both graduates have their importance in helping to develop the economy and would fit right into the economic system and the rampant stupidity of making polytechnic graduates feel less human would not exist. Yes, a university degree is superior but practical application is important, what the government needs to do is stop this stupid discrimination plus also provide an avenue for poly-graduates (that choose) to progress over many years, whether through classroom-based teaching or practical application, to qualify for a degree-level certification to put them on par with university graduates. All the discriminatory bar on Poly-graduates from progressing to the peak in civil service must cease and be banned.

http://www.jarushub.com/sagamite-are-polytechnics-on-par-with-universities/

What are you trying to say. Your own government is stupid but the governments that placed associate degree and Full (Hons) degree at different level are wise abi. The problem with you all is that you are not ready to respect the laws of your land. You did not cry that entry requirements be made equal, but you are crying that benefits should be equal. Even in UK, there were polytechnics, and most of them had to convert to a university by meeting all statutory requirements and not by what is obtainable in the labour market.

If you do not understand read up the history of UK which we directly emulated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytechnic_(United_Kingdom)

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/former-polytechnics-spread-their-wings/310328.article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1558896/Former-polytechnics-not-in-top-50-universities.html

A polytechnic is a poly while a university is a uni and are statutorily not the same, they were not established by no of years spent but rather the law and if you spend 4 years in poly it was your choice not the government because after your OND you graduated and you have the choice of progressing to university but instead you went for HND which is just a higher diploma but not a degree.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Adonike(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2018
ha
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Olive33: 7:50pm On Feb 19, 2018
YES cool
polytechnics beats universities in practical aspects..
if you want to study engineering or other technological courses you should go for polytechnic.
universities are only good on theory and selling of handouts

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Atlantia(f): 7:50pm On Feb 19, 2018
Will people ever tire of making this age-old comparison?

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by kings09(m): 7:50pm On Feb 19, 2018
Nice one but in summary.....polytechnics are useless as far as the Nigerian education system is concerned.
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by 12submarine(m): 7:53pm On Feb 19, 2018
Olive33:
YES cool
polytechnics beats universities in practical aspects..
if you want to study engineering or other technological courses you should go for polytechnic.
universities are only good on theory and selling of handouts
That is a lie. In engineering family, poly graduates are technologists while uni graduates qualify for engineers (having duly registered with the regulating bodies) Engineering is not just about hands on the tools, theories are very important and that is the most difficult aspect of engineering. Good knowledge of the theory of electromagnetic waves is the backbone of all wireless communications and this is note treated extensively in polytechnics. Have you ever wondered why telecom firms prefer uni graduates to poly grad? Engineering is not just about spanner, screw drivers and testers, the most difficult part of engineering is the theory.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by IAmSkinny: 7:53pm On Feb 19, 2018
Fg
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Jinyjagz(m): 7:54pm On Feb 19, 2018
preach
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by ify84(m): 7:54pm On Feb 19, 2018
to stop this discrimination of HND and B.Sc ... Can we have HND changed to B.Nc (bachelor of National Certificate) or B.Nd (Bachelor of National Diploma)..
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Vecto(m): 7:56pm On Feb 19, 2018
Olaitqn:
That's crazy.

Polytechnics are equipped with less facilities and at such churn out less prepared graduates than the well equipped Universities
But you'd have to admit most polytechnic graduates usually fare better than university graduates when it comes to who has the real practical exposure to what is being studied.

Most guys in my department then writing lower or pass, on getting to the universities were writing upper class. It's not something to argue about. Poly students head dey hot.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by KeenMind(m): 7:57pm On Feb 19, 2018
In Nigeria, both Institutions are epitome of unimaginable failure.

More pitiable are the chest-beating graduates of Nigerian Universities who think they're better off than their counterparts in the Polytechnics.

To me, Universities and Polytechnics in Nigeria are like two knives in the house of the unfortunate - the one with a good handle is blunt, the one with sharp edges has a spoilt handle.

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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by fratermathy(m): 8:01pm On Feb 19, 2018
A well written piece. Reminds me of a comment I made on this subject some years ago. Universities award DEGREES, Polytechnics award DIPLOMAS. One has to understand the difference between degree and diploma in order to realise why they are not the same.

However, I don't seem to understand your use of the word "pseudo-scholar"! You wrote that University graduates are "pseudo-scholars". What exactly do you mean? Care to explain? I beg to differ.
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by IdeyFindWife: 8:02pm On Feb 19, 2018
This same-old meaningless back-and-forth comparisons of failed educational structures of a led state.

Were the two optimally founded, funded and administered without interferences from the usual misguided political and policy derailers, we would not be here saying this.

Nothing's being allowed to work here except the usual mediocrity, nepotism, corruption and other bullshyts.

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