mfm04622:


Really, no war was fought by the Prophet when he conquered Mecca. Go and check.
So Muslims in the South West are "Jihadist" too?
Islam existed in Northern Nigeria BEFORE Usman Dan Fodio. In fact, i can claim that Usman Dan Fodio wars are about being a ruler and not about Islam. Why do say this? He made his relatives rulers over conquered cities and towns. So only his relatives are good Muslims? Or his relatives are the best? In fact he fought and overthrew Hausa rulers that are Muslims. He claimed they don't practice Islam the right way He even attacked but failed to overthrow the Kanem Empire. This charge he couldn't law against the kanem-Borno empire.
I really don't know what is going on in those countries. So kindly explain.
I won't mind if ALL holidays are scrapped. The Oro is not a holiday. For a public holiday, nobody tell you how to spend the day. You can open your shop during public holiday if you want. But Oro forces people to be indoors.
For hijab, i don't care what people wear as long as they are not forced to wear those items. So how is Hijab an issue? If you want to search someone wearing hijab, get a female to do it in a secluded place. Simple.
Let's not take this to insult level. Thank you

kingkakaone:

Same thing should be applicable for all...
I was pointing out the one sidedness of MURIC

SlayDaddy:
I think this Man point is for everybody but I don't blame Christians, it is because they are not one. Living Faith is different from RCCG, Cele is different from C&S. ORO suppose to be done at night so as not to disturb others.
Read and comprehend before hating

mfm04622:


Really, no war was fought by the Prophet when he conquered Mecca. Go and check.
So Muslims in the South West are "Jihadist" too?
Islam existed in Northern Nigeria BEFORE Usman Dan Fodio. In fact, i can claim that Usman Dan Fodio wars are about being a ruler and not about Islam. Why do say this? He made his relatives rulers over conquered cities and towns. So only his relatives are good Muslims? Or his relatives are the best? In fact he fought and overthrew Hausa rulers that are Muslims. He claimed they don't practice Islam the right way He even attacked but failed to overthrow the Kanem Empire. This charge he couldn't law against the kanem-Borno empire.
I really don't know what is going on in those countries. So kindly explain.
I won't mind if ALL holidays are scrapped. The Oro is not a holiday. For a public holiday, nobody tell you how to spend the day. You can open your shop during public holiday if you want. But Oro forces people to be indoors.
For hijab, i don't care what people wear as long as they are not forced to wear those items. So how is Hijab an issue? If you want to search someone wearing hijab, get a female to do it in a secluded place. Simple.
Let's not take this to insult level. Thank you

EarthXmetahuman:

Southwest embraced Islam same way they embraced Christianity.
yoruba Muslims are still considered not a good muslim because they dodn't accept danfodio style of Islam.

EarthXmetahuman:
On holidays, banks won't work, when I want to save my money, I can't because some Muslims are celebrating. all government organization won't work like post offices etc. Tell me how that is not affecting me again?

EarthXmetahuman:
again, what will you say if we ask government to ban hijab being used in perpertrating terror?

StaffofOrayan:
Oh shut it silly muslim, you have sunni, shia, salafi, wahabi, Ahmadiya etc
I have never heard RCCG members kill MFM members like we see muslims to in the middle east and northern nigeria
The problem is a lot of Yoruba muslims are bastards, they forget it was the animist and 'oro priests' that saved Yorubaland from invasion FROM THE MUHAMMADANS!!
Every cultural tradition needs to be cleaned up and made a tourist attraction
There are Brazilians that visit Osun grove YEARLY

BetaThings:


Do you believe that rumour?
I hope you remember than in 2011 in Jos, Muslims were not allowed to use the praying ground on the day of eid
And those who went there were killed, burnt and the flesh consumed
Don't take my word for it - google it and also check the video on youtube "killing and eating of muslims in Jos"


Christians also block roads when celebrating Eater procession, while in camp and on Sundays - because Sunday is not a workday, the effect is less; declare Friday workfree and you will see that roads will not be blocked

PaChukwudi44:
For the first time I will have to agree with MURIC.How on earth in the 21st century in a big city like lagos,People are stopped from exercising their fundamental right to freedom of movement because some traditionalists are performing some ceremony.Its so so shameful

EarthXmetahuman:

Right, boko haram are not Muslims but they just love killing anyone that happens to hate not supporting their own brand of Islam.

Also right.. Jihad is a peaceful evangelism by Mohammed after fighting a peaceful war (that doesn't involve killing) to capture mecca.
Usman danfodio also waged a peaceful jihad in the north to spread Islam.


Yeah, Muslims live there but cannot demand for public holiday because they are not majority. we also know what is going in those countries.
Now answer the question, are you going to be happy if we start clamouring scrapping of holidays for Muslims festival?

Yeah right. Call authorities for jihadist


I see you dodged the hijab part even when islamists have used hijab to perpetrate more suicide bombing in the north.

Welldone. You are a true Muslim. Hypocrite to the bone.

EarthXmetahuman:

Right, boko haram are not Muslims but they just love killing anyone that happens to hate not supporting their own brand of Islam.

Also right.. Jihad is a peaceful evangelism by Mohammed after fighting a peaceful war (that doesn't involve killing) to capture mecca.
Usman danfodio also waged a peaceful jihad in the north to spread Islam.


Yeah, Muslims live there but cannot demand for public holiday because they are not majority. we also know what is going in those countries.
Now answer the question, are you going to be happy if we start clamouring scrapping of holidays for Muslims festival?

Yeah right. Call authorities for jihadist


I see you dodged the hijab part even when islamists have used hijab to perpetrate more suicide bombing in the north.

Welldone. You are a true Muslim. Hypocrite to the bone.

BetaThings:

Incorrect for 3 reasons
1- there are differences of opinion on some issues among Muslims and this cuts across tribes or geography
2 - How many Muslims in the North accept the caliphate system of ISIS?

3 - A muslim cannot validly declare another Muslim a good or bad Muslim on account of this issue. There 5 pillars of Islam and 6 articles of faith. If anyone contests anyone of them, the person becomes an unbeliever. A persistent sinner in the North or South is a bad
4. A Saudi cannot say I am a bad Muslim because I am a Nigerian, and I cannot just say any Muslim is bad because of his tribe or country

Holidays are pre-planned and the dates can be estimated with reasonable accuracy and given wide publicity by the government
You want to ban all holidays?

We would consider it a ban on Islam, period
It is easier to identify and stop a female suicide bomber in niqab than to stop anyone carrying bombs in his truck
Will you ban trucks?
There have been pastors who have incited to violence - eg "when you see somebody who looks like, don't ask questions or report, just kill him..."
Is that lawful, should we ban preaching too?

All the Muslims I know personally want to convert Christians to Islam; they don't want to kill them
Consider this - a lady (infamously called the White Widow) was converted to Islam and she joined in killing people
Clearly the person who converted her does not believe in killing non-muslims; otherwise she would have been killed, rather than converted

mfm04622:


That is the mistake people make. Islam was in Yoruba land long before some of the dieties Yoruba worships. For example, Islam was in Yoruba land before Egungun worship was introduced to Yoruba land from the Tapa people by Sango's mother. Islam was in Yoruba land also before Sango's worship. Don't have record of when Oro started in Yoruba land.
The problem any right thinking person will find with this Oro festival is why was it done during the day? Oro was usually done at night. What changed? They don't get enough people to kill during the night again? I will suggest you think things through instead of just reacting because a Muslim pointed this out

BetaThings:


I can assure that as a Muslim that it is wrong to inconvenience others
Jumat service are even spread out to minimise congregation in a particular place
I personally don't like praying outside the mosque. It is happens, I want that to take less than 10 mins

Compare that to those who say women must not go out at all lest they be molested or even spiritually attacked
Sincerely, they are not the same

Meanwhile a few years ago, NASFAT took out an ad in the newspapers to apologise for causing traffic on Lagos-Ibadan expressway
I have not seen any Christian organisation do that for their monthly camping events

BetaThings:


Can you engage in civilised discourse. If yes, I can respond

BTW start thinking of Assembly of God Church in Kaduna
Catholic Church crisis in Kaduna
South Sudan
The inquisition

mfm04622:


There are many gods worshipped in Yoruba land. They gain prominence and die with time. Each town has there own diety. The popular gods today are relatively new. Ogun, Sango, Egungun, Igunuko all came after Islam in Yoruba land. Fact. Not even after Islam was started ooo, after Islam got to Yoruba land

SlayDaddy:
I think this Man point is for everybody but I don't blame Christians, it is because they are not one. Living Faith is different from RCCG, Cele is different from C&S. ORO suppose to be done at night so as not to disturb others.
Read and comprehend before hating

EarthXmetahuman:

I'm pretty sure if Isis existed in the days of danfodio, their caliphate will be the one running things in the north now.

The fact that the world now thinks forcing people into caliphate is an act of terrorism doesn't make danfodio type of caliphate right.
If danfodio tried that stunt now, he will be declared a terrorist.

Except Sunni and shia declaring each other fake muslim and killing each other everyday.

The fact that you want to blind yourself from the reality that some Hausas still think yoruba muslims are not pure muslim like them doesn't change the fact that it is happening.

You can say they are not muslim, that totally depends on your own enlightenment. But it is happening.


eccept the government decided to favor the muslims and christians
if we declare holidays for traditons like Oro, I'm sure there will be enough publicity for Oro day too.


Yeah. Ban on Islam. Every ban on any Islam tradition is ban on Islam but they can demand that Oro priests be arrested for celebrating a part of his own religion.

Trucks can be stopped and searched by anyone either male or female and at anytime.
Can Police stop and search hijab women anyhow they want in the north without consequences?

Maxcollins042:

Do you mean the Shiites? If yes then you should channel your complaint to MURIC.

BetaThings:


What about those who block roads when they go to camp?
Or when they are enacting crucifixion of Jesus?

scholes0:


You don't even understand Yoruba culture.

mentioning Egungun and Igunnuko in the same context as Ogun or Sango shows that you don't know what you are talking about.
Are Egungun and Igunnuko (Nupe masquerade) Yoruba gods?

StaffofOrayan:
Are you Yoruba?

EarthXmetahuman:
so muhammed didn't fight any war or conquer villages through war and impose Islam on them ?

Islam existed north but who made it mainstream?
Hausas did not have Islamic caliphate until danfodio came in.


Southwest embraced Islam same way they embraced Christianity.
yoruba Muslims are still considered not a good muslim because they dodn't accept danfodio style of Islam.



On holidays, banks won't work, when I want to save my money, I can't because some Muslims are celebrating. all government organization won't work like post offices etc. Tell me how that is not affecting me again?


again, what will you say if we ask government to ban hijab being used in perpertrating terror?

scholes0:


Islam was in Yorubaland before Egungun?

Egungun was introduced from Tapa (Nupe) people?

What a load of bullcrap!

EarthXmetahuman:

Wrong.

ololu still come out every year.

Radio and television carried every festival going on in every state I their days right? How many of them even have tv or radio.

Just accept you are ignorant and have been schooled and move the Bleep on.

mfm04622:


you think i made it up? Well, go and read "History of Yoruba by Samuel Johnson. It will be an eye opening for you

mfm04622:


Are Egungun worshiped in any form? Either as themselves or representatives of other things? Are igunnuko worshiped in any form in Yoruba land by Yorubas?
Answer those 2 questions first then we go from there.

1stolax:

Na so dem go pound your head take make black soap juju for those ritualist pastors.

mfm04622:


Don't you think when they don't people to come out they will announce it?