Onlytruth:

TOKUMBO AWODE says:
July 19, 2010 at 7:39 pm

South Africa spent $5b for the World Cup. Outcomes: 30 hotels, 10 stadia, power stations, housing estates, cutting edge railways, 160,000 jobs, and many new roads. Obasanjo spent $18b on JUST ELECTRICITY and here we are.

Onlytruth:

Obasanjo spent $18b on JUST ELECTRICITY and here we are.

EzeUche:

Jacob Zuma is the man! I am big fan of the zulus. Those South Africans no how to get work done.

South Africa is like Japan and Nigeria is like China India.

EzeUche:

Jacob Zuma is the man! I am big fan of the zulus. Those South Africans no how to get work done.

South Africa is like Japan and Nigeria is like China.

koruji:

@EzeUche
Even in this innocuous matter the first thought that came to your head is you are a "big fan of the zulus" Don't you see how infected you are with tribalism?

South Africa is like Japan and Nigeria is like China - what does that even mean, man? Why can't South Africa be like South Africa and Nigeria like Nigeria? If you must compare please use clear metrics e.g. GDP, population, etc. Otherwise, the merits of your comparison remains only in your mind.

By the way, the OP's arithmetic is based on conjecture - not real at all. I am more amazed by the angle from which you jumped on the train!

saintneo:

South Africa can be likened to Japan with its advance technology on the continent just like Japan is advanced in Asia, while Nigeria can be likened to India or China due to our population, but our governance is questionable.

EzeUche:

So me saying that I am a big fan of the Zulus make ma tribalist? Me giving praise to another tribe makes me a tribalist? ha ha ha Stop using a word so loosely. I respect the Fulani, I respect the Zulu, I respect the Asante, I respect the Mandinka, I even respect Yoruba history so shut up with your nonsense. I am biased to African warrior tribes though. If I am a tribalist in that sense, then you are right. But me giving praise to other groups that are not my own does not make me a tribalist. Jacob Zuma is a proud Zulu and a proud South African. Can't people respect that a person's ethnicity means a lot to people.

Daaammmn Nigerians use tribalism just as much as whites now use reverse racism in America. Too loosely.

And what is wrong with making a comparison of two nations with nations on another continent. It is call comparative politics which is actually taught in schools. South Africa can be likened to Japan with its advance technology on the continent just like Japan is advanced in Asia, while Nigeria can be likened to India or China due to our population, but our governance is questionable.

debosky:

The author must be a slowpoke - OBJ never spent $18b on power; this matter has been discussed many times on this forum already. A simple attempt to verify information before publishing will help.

Onlytruth:

Okay, he spent $5 billion. Wey de light na?

ikeyman00:

@@@@@
who doesnt know

this man will live to regret himself as a silly and selfish human in the make of nigeria

this man obj is a failure as far as nigeria is concern

only if the truth has to be told

EzeUche:

Jacob Zuma is the man! I am big fan of the zulus. Those South Africans no how to get work done.

South Africa is like Japan and Nigeria is like China.

davidif:

[size=18pt]WHAT?!?!?!?!? [/size] ABEG DON'T INSULT THE GREAT COUNTRY AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA BY COMPARING THIS USELESS JOKE OF A COUNTRY TO IT. THAT IS A HUGE SLAP IN THE FACE OF ALL 1.5 BILLION CHINESE PEOPLE AND TO HUMANITY IN GENERAL. HAITI SHOULD BE PROPER COMPARISON TO NIGERIA AND NOT CHINA, WE DON'T DESERVE SUCH LOFTY COMPARISONS TO CHINA.

30 hotels, 10 stadia, power stations, housing estates, cutting edge railways, 160,000 jobs, and

KnowAll:



[size=14pt]Lets analysis this statment one by one.

30 Hotels[/color] - [size=14pt]No where in the world does goverment build and run hotels. I would be shocked to know that SA, the economic power house of Africa has resulted to this archeic and barbaric way of running a goverment  where the Goverment builds and maintain Hotels. This is a  private money territory, I am not too sure Jacob Zuma built 30 hotels this statement is a fallacy and should be discounted as rantings of a mad man. ( The only country in the world where Goverment still builds Hotels is Naija)


10 Stadia - In the UK and the USA, Govemrnets do not own stadia, but on this occasion being an African Country without any Known club which can pay the cost of building the stadia in a short number of years I am inclined to believe that the SA Goverment bankrolled this project.


Power House- In most developed countries it is private capital domain, the goverment might give incentives to would be investors but not to outrightly built a power station to run. It is bound to end in tears and fundermental losses, I beg to differ on this, I would not expect the Joseph Zuma's Govement to build, operate and maintain power houses in SA, this is another fallacy which should be discounted.


Housing Estates - In most deveolped countries in the world it is a private enterprise domain. In SA, there is a huge disparity between the rich and the poor, the SA Goverment might build new estates in other to transfer the holdings to poor blacks as a social hosing scheme after the games, this is necessary and understandable because of the prevaling poverty in the ghetto's one cannot rule out an ANC covert programme of enpowering poor blacks, this I would not discount as it might be an incentive for the poor to get unto the property ladder.

[color=#990000[b]]Railways-[/b][/color] Are normally privately run in most wastern countries, but the fact it was Goverment run even in the UK about 20 years ago, SA being a new democracy and determined to host the World Cup, I would not rule out Govewrment intervention. This project I would bet is 100% Goverment funded but may be transfered to private organisation after the games. It is necessary for fans to transfer between games and if private funds is not forth-coming fast enough the Goverment might step in by taking the bull on the horn by funding the project in other to avoid embarassing herself.


On the other hand, OBJ might have awarded the contracts of the electricity project to crooked people who only not inflated the contract but did a runner after collecting mobilization fee from the goverment. How does the Presidency tell the whole world they have just being swindled by a bunch of fast thinking 419.  

I was once taking for a ride whilst building a pumping machine in my motrher's abode.  After the best part of N65,000.00 has being spent by me the project was  as bad as I met it. No water in the house, pumping machine packed up after swithing it on for the first time. I said to myself if I spent £250.00 in the UK I will see what I spent the money on but alas in Naija the sitiuation is completely different. OBJ is not a saint and I am not in anyway exnonerating him but the fact is, he was swindled by political associate who he cannot point a finger at.

Conclusions: OBJ would have done what Zuma did when face with the prospect of hosting a world cup. I don' t think Zuma was any better than OBJ nor cleverer. The issues at stake are completly different.  




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KnowAll:



[size=14pt]Lets analysis this statment one by one.

30 Hotels[/color] - [size=14pt]No where in the world does goverment build and run hotels. I would be shocked to know that SA, the economic power house of Africa has resulted to this archeic and barbaric way of running a goverment where the Goverment builds and maintain Hotels. This is a private money territory, I am not too sure Jacob Zuma built 30 hotels this statement is a fallacy and should be discounted as rantings of a mad man. ( The only country in the world where Goverment still builds Hotels is Naija)

KnowAll:


10 Stadia - In the UK and the USA, Govemrnets do not own stadia, but on this occasion being an African Country without any Known club which can pay the cost of building the stadia in a short number of years I am inclined to believe that the SA Goverment bankrolled this project.

KnowAll:


Power House- In most developed countries it is private capital domain, the goverment might give incentives to would be investors but not to outrightly built a power station to run. It is bound to end in tears and fundermental losses, I beg to differ on this, I would not expect the Joseph Zuma's Govement to build, operate and maintain power houses in SA, this is another fallacy which should be discounted.

KnowAll:


Housing Estates - In most deveolped countries in the world it is a private enterprise domain. In SA, there is a huge disparity between the rich and the poor, the SA Goverment might build new estates in other to transfer the holdings to poor blacks as a social hosing scheme after the games, this is necessary and understandable because of the prevaling poverty in the ghetto's one cannot rule out an ANC covert programme of enpowering poor blacks, this I would not discount as it might be an incentive for the poor to get unto the property ladder.

KnowAll:

[color=#990000[b]]Railways-[/b][/color] Are normally privately run in most wastern countries, but the fact it was Goverment run even in the UK about 20 years ago, SA being a new democracy and determined to host the World Cup, I would not rule out Govewrment intervention. This project I would bet is 100% Goverment funded but may be transfered to private organisation after the games. It is necessary for fans to transfer between games and if private funds is not forth-coming fast enough the Goverment might step in by taking the bull on the horn by funding the project in other to avoid embarassing herself.

KnowAll:

OBJ would have done what Zuma did when face with the prospect of hosting a world cup. I don' t think Zuma was any better than OBJ nor cleverer./size][/size]

RSA:

It is not only in Africa where goverment build and own stadiums,most teams rent this stadiums from goverment,even in UK,tell me who owns Wimbley ?

You are right there bro the private company builded their own hotels,South Africas tourist sector it is very much developed,we are Africas biggest tourist destination,our tourism sector is bigger than Egypt.

The author must be a slowpoke - OBJ never spent $18b on power; this matter has been discussed many times on this forum already. A simple attempt to verify information before publishing will help.

chidichris
@debosky,
obj never spent $18b on power, BUT how much did he spend?
maybe N20k.
with the varifications u have made, u shld be in a better position to tell those of us that are ill informed the real situation of things.
pls remember to varify the harlibutton matter and how much he got in the deal.
also, varify how much he spent on his third term agenda.
do not forget to verify how mcuh he wasted in the 2007 show of shame called election.
mr. verifier, always varify how many of his aides that are not billionaires in dollars when replying.
in your varifications, remember to inform us on the most corrupt civilian administration in the history of nigeria.
pls don't forget to varify the roles of the late adedibu and chris uba under that shambles call administration of your obj.
i don't want to be quick like u in calling anyone here a slowpoke otherwise i wld love to make it a back to sender situation.
if you live your life varifying, what have u verified to be the reason for obj not giving us steady power supply as he promised in 1999? maybe lack of funds or sites to build?
verifier, what happened to the road contracts at federal levels and how did his dog(ribadu) react to that or did u verify that to somewhere outside financial crimes?
what was the result of your verifications on iyabo's visit to efcc, atiku's extablished case of financial misappropriation that resulted to his indictment in 2007?
verify for us why bode george was seen as a siant under the noise making ribadu/obj war on corruption while a less noisy yar adua and waziri jailed him?
have u ever verified why nigeria is backward compared to other countries of the world even poorer countries? what is your result of verifications as it relates to nigeria been the only dark country in the world.
who is even mad to compare zuma and obj? zuma was always there to face the court, can your obj ever come to court?
who is even talking abt hosting a world cup when ordinary under 17 was messed up? can a dark country host enlightened men? that is pretty impossible.
obj is the worst man in our history because no other nigerian has ev er had the opportunity obj had to turn our lives arround.
take a trip to benin republic, togo, ghana, ivory coast, they all have running and good pipe borne water and steady power supply and what do we have here? quality pure waters, individual water holes, bottle waters of different colours and regions with our water board always in the budget year in, year out. more investments into power supply with lesser outputs.
are u not ahsamed to be defending these poor managed systems that produce beasts and goats as rulers?
with the level of movements, in how many years coming are u expecting nigeria to compare themselves development and infrastructural abilities with the likes of togo, ghana, benin talkless of the likes of south africa and other high rated systems in the world not minding our mineral resources?
the killing of two communities by obj is worthy of our praises mr. varifier.
your type have settled for pepetual hardship and as such will always jump to the defence of your tormentors.