najib632:
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Read what more? A secondary school student cannot even say what you said. I'm so disappointed.

I won't be surprised sef if you're a secondary school student.

You don't know a pin about evolution. Just don't talk about what you don't know.

Meet Louie dude. This is a hairless chimpanzee. Read more on evolution or humbly ask me to help teach you. I will help you.

najib632:
Look this is God were talking about, you damn atheist should stop acting like you know everything,

I never claim to know everything, no one knows everything even your God!

You have been dodging my statement of telling you that under special conditions which is called nuclear transmutation an element can be transformed into any other element, an atom is more advanced than you think brother you will have to study a bit of quantum physics to understand this.

My goodness what the heck are you saying?

Is there any silica in human? Answer this and stop talking another thing.

There's distinct difference between evolution and metamorphosis and adaptation, I'll talk about them below:

metamorphosis is the growth and changes that take place during the life time of a single organism. which are of two types , hemimetabolous, and Holometabolous, humans undergo something similar to hemimetabolous metamorphosis without molting.
So it's just growth.

Adaptation is the mutation of a particular trait in an organism to fit into it's enviroment. Which results to difference in species.

Read what you post and tell me it has nothing to do with evolution?

Adaptation : In biology, adaptation has three related meanings. Firstly, it is the dynamic evolutionary process that fits organisms to their environment, enhancing their evolutionary fitness. Secondly, it is a state reached by the population during that process. Thirdly, it is a phenotypic or adaptive trait, with a functional role in each individual organism, that is maintained and has been evolved by natural selection.
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Kindly go read about evolution and understand it very well, it is a very broad subject.

Evolution is the complete transformation of an organism into another like humans evolved from apes (but we can't breed together )it still can't be proved till date because as science is advancing its exposing the flaws of Darwinism, while in adaptation the animals can still breed since they're from the same ancestor.

My goodness, I've said that humans didn't evolve from apes! We evolve from ape-like species(meaning they look like apes) but not apes we only share common ancestor with apes, chimpanzees, gorilla and other hominid species, please google all the homos we have to understand the stages.

Evolution is development, changing and modifying.

There are evidences of evolution that can never be disputed!

Akin1212:


Read what more? A secondary school student cannot even say what you said. I'm so disappointed.

I won't be surprised sef if you're a secondary school student.

You don't know a pin about evolution. Just don't talk about what you don't know.

The dude doesn't understand evolution.

Akin1212:


Read what more? A secondary school student cannot even say what you said. I'm so disappointed.

I won't be surprised sef if you're a secondary school student.

You don't know a pin about evolution. Just don't talk about what you don't know.

It wouldn't be bad if you can educate or direct me to where I can learn more, dispute me with educational content not mere talk. Ya'll Darwinists always trying to dispute the existence of Allah, you're only successful because you receive funding from the worshippers of Lucifer since he can misguide people like you.

tintingz:
I never claim to know everything, no one knows everything even your God!

No man I am not crazy as you are, there definitely a God.

tintingz:


My goodness what the heck are you saying?

Is there any silica in human? Answer this and stop talking another thing.

There's no silica in humans of course. Just like scientist are yet to create a totally organic material from elements

tintingz:


Read what you post and tell me it has nothing to do with evolution?

It has nothing to do with evolution, you Darwinists should stop mixing it up.

tintingz:


Adaptation : In biology, adaptation has three related meanings. Firstly, it is the dynamic evolutionary process that fits organisms to their environment, enhancing their evolutionary fitness. Secondly, it is a state reached by the population during that process. Thirdly, it is a phenotypic or adaptive trait, with a functional role in each individual organism, that is maintained and has been evolved by natural selection.
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Kindly go read about evolution and understand it very well, it is a very broad subject.

Yes I'll do that, infact I'll delve deeper into the subject so that I'll get the flaws and I'll come back for you.

tintingz:


My goodness, I've said that humans didn't evolve from apes! We evolve from ape-like species(meaning they look like apes) but not apes we only share common ancestor with apes, chimpanzees, gorilla and other hominid species, please google all the homos we have to understand the stages.

Evolution is development, changing and modifying.

There are evidences of evolution that can never be disputed!

I don't share any ancestors with apes you Darwinist, why can't we cross breed? And why do your atheist scientist turn a blind eye to the existence of giant Humans?

Akin1212:
Meet Louie dude. This is a hairless chimpanzee. Read more on evolution or humbly ask me to help teach you. I will help you.

I humbly ask you to teach me sir, but sir this is a chimpanzee with a disease, I have seen the guy on tv one certain time.

najib632:
No man I am not crazy as you are, there definitely a God.

Lol, who is crazy? Someone that accept how reality is and proud to say "I don't know" or someone that talk to himself calling it prayer and hitting his head on the ground five times daily to an imaginary master in the sky, someone that think their religion have answers to all?

There is a quote, "When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion."

Hope you know Santa Claus exist?

There's no silica in humans of course. Just like scientist are yet to create a totally organic material from elements

Kindly don't commit non sequitur fallacy.

It has nothing to do with evolution, you Darwinists should stop mixing it up.

From your definition you said, metamorphosis is growth and change and Adaptation is mutation.

Metamorphosis may not be part of evolution since it deals with a single specie life growth, it is well an influence to idea of evolution but adaptation is part of evolution, an evolutionary fitness.

Can you tell us what evolution is again and what mutation, growth and changes is?

Yes I'll do that, infact I'll delve deeper into the subject so that I'll get the flaws and I'll come back for you.

Ok

I don't share any ancestors with apes you Darwinist, why can't we cross breed? And why do your atheist scientist turn a blind eye to the existence of giant Humans?

Humans share common ancestor with other hominids like gorillas, chimpanzees etc, we're family wether you like it or not.

Even Muslim scientists know this.

Wether we can breed with chimpanzees that I don't know, maybe because of the diversity in our evolutionary process.

najib632:
I humbly ask you to teach me sir, but sir this is a chimpanzee with a disease, I have seen the guy on tv one certain time.

The disease is called alopecia and it affects humans too. But that's not the issue and the disease shouldn't block your senses from perceiving the purpose of showing you the picture. The purpose is for you to see the structural resemblance of chimpanzees with humans. Look at the structure of the body parts and tell me they don't look close to human's. You need to be able to see beyond what you want to see, you need to be able to see what you can see. The genetic similarity which stands at 98% between chimps and humans is responsible for the resemblance. Does quran or can the quran explain that in plausible hypothetical ways? I guess not. Read on while I lecture you on evolution though.

tintingz:
Lol, who is crazy? Someone that accept how reality is and proud to say "I don't know" or someone that talk to himself calling it prayer and hitting his head on the ground five times daily to an imaginary master in the sky, someone that think their religion have answers to all?

I place my forehead on the ground out of humbleness and submission to greatness of the Allah, and I am proud of it. I also never claimed to know everything I only Allah has that attribute. And my master is beyond the sky, he has given you atheist the permission to deny his existence and allow the devil to misguide, until a day the devil and all the scientist will deny you and you and them will be of the same fate. And by the way let me remind you to be grateful to muslims for advanced science if not you atheists will not even have the intelligence to argue with science.

tintingz:


There is a quote, "When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion."

Well that does not apply to my religion, for all I care Islam has advanced the world more than you atheists. Because you mentality gave birth to the insanity disguised as democracy, the American government destroys countries without sympathy because they don't believe in a diety talkless of enforcing piety.

tintingz:


Hope you know Santa Claus exist?

Nope I don't, but you'll have to prove it to me.

tintingz:


Kindly don't commit non sequitur fallacy.

Hahaha... Open your eyes sir and where did I this.

tintingz:



From your definition you said, metamorphosis is growth and change and Adaptation is mutation.

Metamorphosis may not be part of evolution since it deals with a single specie life growth, it is well an influence to idea of evolution but adaptation is part of evolution, an evolutionary fitness.

Nope it is not why evolution is a fallacy is
1. It's hell bent on disproving the existence of Allah

2. There are some clear blunders that this theory has... O I forgot to tell you its more than a century now but its still a theory haha... ehen to blunders, evolution permits total transformation into a different animal that has nothing in common with its ancestor, while adaptation says it will only adjust to survive it's enviroment.

tintingz:


Can you tell us what evolution is again and what mutation, growth and changes is?

I would like to, but it will be easier for me if you use my quote, thanks for umderstanding

Ok

tintingz:


Humans share common ancestor with other hominids like gorillas, chimpanzees etc, we're family wether you like it or not.

Even Muslim scientists know this.

Wether we can breed with chimpanzees that I don't know, maybe because of the diversity in our evolutionary process.

Hahaha... Alhamdulillah I am a Muslim and I trust my brothers and sisters not to believe this trash except the so called modernised muslims. Why are we far more intelligent than any other hominids are?

Akin1212:


The disease is called alopecia and it affects humans too. But that's not the issue and the disease shouldn't block your senses from perceiving the purpose of showing you the picture. The purpose is for you to see the structural resemblance of chimpanzees with humans. Look at the structure of the body parts and tell me they don't look close to human's. You need to be able to see beyond what you want to see, you need to be able to see what you can see. The genetic similarity which stands at 98% between chimps and humans is responsible for the resemblance. Does quran or can the quran explain that in plausible hypothetical ways? I guess not. Read on while I lecture you on evolution though.

I am following sir I have become your student now I will try my best not to argue with you for the mean time... Carry on sir

najib632:
I place my forehead on the ground out of humbleness and submission to greatness of the Allah, and I am proud of it. I also never claimed to know everything I only Allah has that attribute. And my master is beyond the sky, he has given you atheist the permission to deny his existence and allow the devil to misguide, until a day the devil and all the scientist will deny you and you and them will be of the same fate. And by the way let me remind you to be grateful to muslims for advanced science if not you atheists will not even have the intelligence to argue with science.

This is the delusion I was talking about.

Let me ask, why did Allah allowed atheists to exist? At least we can see him killing and destroying unbelievers in your Quran.

Yes the medieval Muslims who had access to the Greek works contributed to science but didn't advanced in science, science in the Muslim world stopped in that era maybe when Muslim scholars were becoming skeptics, it was the Europeans that contributed largely to modern science.

Well that does not apply to my religion, for all I care Islam has advanced the world more than you atheists. Because you mentality gave birth to the insanity disguised as democracy, the American government destroys countries without sympathy because they don't believe in a diety talkless of enforcing piety.

Atheists are increasing day by day, we're still minority tho.

Atheists have contributed to modern science, someone like Late Steven Hawkin, Lawrence Kruss etc.

And please don't go into politics, this one you're mentioning America and democracy.

Nope I don't, but you'll have to prove it to me.

Santa exist, we have books written about Santa Claus, he exist in the North Pole, what do you need prove for?

Hahaha... Open your eyes sir and where did I this.

You are going off topic, that's non sequitur fallacy.

Nope it is not why evolution is a fallacy is
1. It's hell bent on disproving the existence of All

What do you mean evolution disprove existence of all?

2. There are some clear blunders that this theory has... O I forgot to tell you its more than a century now but its still a theory haha... ehen to blunders, evolution permits total transformation into a different animal that has nothing in common with its ancestor, while adaptation says it will only adjust to survive it's enviroment.

The study of evolution is progressing day by day, some are trashed away while some are maintained.

Science accept they have errors and make amendments, that is what science is.

Evolution is not only a theory it is a fact!

You sound like those ignorant Muslims that prefer fairytales than scientific theories.

Evolution is the first stage and adaptation is another stage, we evolve and adapt to the environment. Adaptation is a subset of evolution.

Please google evolutionary tree to understand the ancestor of each species.

I would like to, but it will be easier for me if you use my quote, thanks for umderstanding

Ok

You don't understand evolution.

Hahaha... Alhamdulillah I am a Muslim and I trust my brothers and sisters not to believe this trash except the so called modernised muslims. Why are we far more intelligent than any other hominids are?

It doesn't change the fact that's we're related to chimpanzees.

Why humans are intelligent is still a debate, some theories said natural selection.

tintingz:
This is the delusion I was talking about.

Let me ask, why did Allah allowed atheists to exist? At least we can see him killing and destroying unbelievers in your Quran.

It is because of prophet Muhammad S.A.W prayer and there are still a few remains of the pious Muslims. There will be time where the whole world is left with only disbelievers, and that's when Allah will other the destruction of the world and other the universe to stop expanding and contrast.

tintingz:


Yes the medieval Muslims who had access to the Greek works contributed to science but didn't advanced in science, science in the Muslim world stopped in that era maybe when Muslim scholars were becoming skeptics, it was the Europeans that contributed largely to modern science.

No doubt they used Greek works, but things like algebra are purely Islamic it was derived from the verse of the distribution of wealth. Algorithm too... optics... medicine, I hope you know the word doctor is an Arabic word... and many more that I dont even know...

tintingz:


Atheists are increasing day by day, we're still minority tho.

Atheists have contributed to modern science, someone like Late Steven Hawkin, Lawrence Kruss etc.

I am not surprised that you're increasing by the number, because these are end times and the devil is winning.

tintingz:


And please don't go into politics, this one you're mentioning America and democracy.

Ok but at least I proved my point

tintingz:


Santa exist, we have books written about Santa Claus, he exist in the North Pole, what do you need prove for?

Brother santaclus is Lucifer in disguise... and Sir am little bit disappointed how can you believe in Santa but disbelieve in Allah...

tintingz:


You are going off topic, that's non sequitur fallacy.

Yes you said that I checked it up on the internet that's why I said "where did I do that?"

tintingz:


What do you mean evolution disprove existence of all?

Sorry I meant Allah.

tintingz:


The study of evolution is progressing day by day, some are trashed away while some are maintained.

Science accept they have errors and make amendments, that is what science is.

Evolution is not only a theory it is a fact!

Yes of course evolution will progress because the devil wants to misguide you!

tintingz:


You sound like those ignorant Muslims that prefer fairytales than scientific theories.

Hahaha yea right! In Islam I am orthodox in science I am a creationist.

tintingz:


Evolution is the first stage and adaptation is another stage, we evolve and adapt to the environment. Adaptation is a subset of evolution.

That is for Evolutionists, adaptation is just a mutation to make a specie adapt to its enviroment.

tintingz:



Please google evolutionary tree to understand the ancestor of each species.

Yes I'll do that and will come back and prove it wrong to you.

tintingz:


You don't understand evolution.

No sir there's a difference between you and I, I decide to be blunt and straight forward, because on the path of Allah there are no unnecessary diversions, while on the path of Satan he mixes truth with falsehood until you become blind.

tintingz:


It doesn't change the fact that's we're related to chimpanzees.

Why humans are intelligent is still a debate, some theories said natural selection.

Chai... me am not related to chimpanzee my Ancestor is the best creation of Allab. Allah fashioned him in the best shape and granted him intellect and free choice , and were all his descendants, if you like believe the devils mockery of you I would not be a part of it.

Yes they will now form another have backed theory with billions of o dollars used to fund it so they wouldn't want to throw it out of the window... just like evolution.

The theory of evolution not the law of evolution Sir.

najib632:
It is because of prophet Muhammad S.A.W prayer and there are still a few remains of the pious Muslims. There will be time where the whole world is left with only disbelievers, and that's when Allah will other the destruction of the world and other the universe to stop expanding and contrast.

Delusion.

No doubt they used Greek works, but things like algebra are purely Islamic it was derived from the verse of the distribution of wealth. Algorithm too... optics... medicine, I hope you know the word doctor is an Arabic word... and many more that I dont even know...

The Europeans are still the largely contributor to modern science, the medieval Muslim scientists contributed but not has the Europeans.

The work of Algebra was influenced by the Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks(Plato era).

I am not surprised that you're increasing by the number, because these are end times and the devil is winning.

Praise be to the devil. Lol.

So atheists now believe in the devil.

Ok but at least I proved my point

Each countries have their own problem.

Brother santaclus is Lucifer in disguise... and Sir am little bit disappointed how can you believe in Santa but disbelieve in Allah...

This is blasphemous. Santa is NOT Lucifer, Santa is a good, friendly entity that gives.

Same question also apply to you, How can you believe Allah exist and Santa Claus don't exist? How?

Yes you said that I checked it up on the internet that's why I said "where did I do that?"

This not what I meant about non sequitur fallacy.

Sorry I meant Allah.

Evolution has nothing to do with God, so it doesn't negate existence of Allah but if you try to fit in evolution with Allah then you're making terrible mistakes.

Yes of course evolution will progress because the devil wants to misguide you!

Delusion.

Hahaha yea right! In Islam I am orthodox in science I am a creationist.

Lol, good luck to your ignorance.

That is for Evolutionists, adaptation is just a mutation to make a specie adapt to its enviroment.

You still don't get the connection.

Yes I'll do that and will come back and prove it wrong to you.

Ok

No sir there's a difference between you and I, I decide to be blunt and straight forward, because on the path of Allah there are no unnecessary diversions, while on the path of Satan he mixes truth with falsehood until you become blind.

Another delusion.

Chai... me am not related to chimpanzee my Ancestor is the best creation of Allab. Allah fashioned him in the best shape and granted him intellect and free choice , and were all his descendants, if you like believe the devils mockery of you I would not be a part of it.

There is no evidence of Adam, it is just an Abrahamic religion fairytale.

Yes they will now form another have backed theory with billions of o dollars used to fund it so they wouldn't want to throw it out of the window... just like evolution.

The theory of evolution not the law of evolution Sir.

Evolution has more evidences, your fairytale creation story doesn't have.

Najib632

All your claims here are lies and fallacies.

The word doctor is not an Arabic word.

Evolution is a scientific theory, being a scientific theory doesn't mean it's not a fact or it's not accepted. You are really backwards when it comes to knowledge.

You are very mistaken but let me clear you.

A scientific law is the description of a phenomenon. It doesn't explain phenomenon.

A scientific theory is the explanation of a scientific law. In other words, a scientific theory is the explanation of a described phenomenon, a theory explains a law or laws.

Your misconception that theories are not widely accepted is a pity.

tintingz:
Delusion.

tintingz:


The Europeans are still the largely contributor to modern science, the medieval Muslim scientists contributed but not has the Europeans.

Read the documentation from National Geographic, I hope you know that many of the Muslim scientist names are translated into Latin.

tintingz:


The work of Algebra was influenced by the Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks(Plato era).

No sir, you're wrong. The man that was responsible for translating the verse into mathematics is called Aljabar in Latin its Algebra.

tintingz:


Praise be to the devil. Lol.

This not funny.

tintingz:


So atheists now believe in the devil.

You're deluded by the devil, that's why you say everything is a myth.

tintingz:


This is blasphemous. Santa is NOT Lucifer, Santa is a good, friendly entity that gives.

So you believe in entities but you cannot Believe in Allah, this is hypocritical.

tintingz:


Same question also apply to you, How can you believe Allah exist and Santa Claus don't exist? How?

Santa is a propagator of falsehood, because Allah does not have a son, and he Santa believes that Allah has a son and he helps in misguiding people by giving them gifts to continue believing that. Even Santa believes in Allah, but he is misguided. But you believe in Santa but not in Allah so you're being hypocritical.

tintingz:


This not what I meant about non sequitur fallacy.

I meant where did I go off topic

tintingz:


Evolution has nothing to do with God, so it doesn't negate existence of Allah but if you try to fit in evolution with Allah then you're making terrible mistakes.

You're misguided.

tintingz:


Delusion.

Lol, good luck to your ignorance.

You still don't get the connection.

Ok

Another delusion.


There is no evidence of Adam, it is just an Abrahamic religion fairytale.

Evolution has more evidences, your fairytale creation story doesn't have.

Your usual escape tactics, Non-sense evolution...

Akin1212:
Najib632

All your claims here are lies and fallacies.

Prove they're lies and fallacies sir, I am here to argue so prove me wrong.

Akin1212:



The word doctor is not an Arabic word.

Ottomans invented university sir, go and do more research... Sorry for not being specific though I am not talking of a physician or medical practitioner, I meant Doctor as in education. I might be wrong about the origin but the word Doctor is also present in Arabic... if you know the origin you can tell me.

Akin1212:


Evolution is a scientific theory, being a scientific theory doesn't mean it's not a fact or it's not accepted. You are really backwards when it comes to knowledge.

No sir I still remember the rules, observation, hypothesis, theory, and experimentation, if the result of experimentation tallies with theory you have a law.

Akin1212:


You are very mistaken but let me clear you.

A scientific law is the description of a phenomenon. It doesn't explain phenomenon.

A scientific theory is the explanation of a scientific law. In other words, a scientific theory is the explanation of a described phenomenon, a theory explains a law or laws.

Your misconception that theories are not widely accepted is a pity.

No sir, A scientific Law is a proved theory as simple as that. A Law has no deficiencies while a theory has, take for example Newton's laws of Motion has no deficiency but Albert Einsteins theory of relativity is still a theory because it has some defects even though it's still applicable in some aspects but not in others.

najib632:


Read the documentation from National Geographic, I hope you know that many of the Muslim scientist names are translated into Latin.

Most Islamic countries reject scientific theories, you even called evolution a fallacy, so I still don't get your point?

No sir, you're wrong. The man that was responsible for translating the verse into mathematics is called Aljabar in Latin its Algebra.

Actually his name is Muḥammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi a Persian, he was influenced by previous works, his own work was independent of geometry and arithmetic which makes it outstanding.

This not funny.

Ofcos it's funny.

You're deluded by the devil, that's why you say everything is a myth.

We don't believe in the devil or any fairy beings.

And everything is not a myth.

So you believe in entities but you cannot Believe in Allah, this is hypocritical.

Why do you think Santa don't exist?

Santa is a propagator of falsehood, because Allah does not have a son, and he Santa believes that Allah has a son and he helps in misguiding people by giving them gifts to continue believing that. Even Santa believes in Allah, but he is misguided. But you believe in Santa but not in Allah so you're being hypocritical.

All this are irrelevant, Santa Claus exist that's the premise. You're yet to tell me how you think he doesn't.

I meant where did I go off topic

We are talking about silicon, you saying scientists cannot create organic elements.

You're misguided.

Should I show you how God and evolution cannot fit?

Your usual escape tactics, Non-sense evolution...

Where is evidence of Adam, Eve?

najib632:
Prove they're lies and fallacies sir, I am here to argue so prove me wrong.

Ottomans invented university sir, go and do more research... Sorry for not being specific though I am not talking of a physician or medical practitioner, I meant Doctor as in education. I might be wrong about the origin but the word Doctor is also present in Arabic... if you know the origin you can tell me.

You have proven it yourself here. I don't need to stress myself at all.

najib632:


No sir I still remember the rules, observation, hypothesis, theory, and experimentation, if the result of experimentation tallies with theory you have a law.

This is very laughable, let me ask you a simple question, are you even a scientist? You obviously didn't get the order of the scientific method correctly. It seems you need lots of explanations done for you on science. Now read the below explanation carefully, I'll make it very simple.

The steps of the scientific metgods are - observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory(data /analysis), conclusion or law. Check it anywhere, online,your textbook, just anywhere except your quran.

After making an observation of a phenomena, you will have to make a hypothesis of what could be happening. After the hypothesis is made, you will have to test your hypothesis to confirm if it is right or wrong.

The only way to test hypothesis is to conduct an experiment. After the experiment, if the hypothesis is wrong based on the experiment, that is the end because you cannot go further, the hypothesis is wrong already.

But if the hypothesis is right or correct based on the experiment, that means what you hypothesized is correct. Once you're correct, you attempt to EXPLAIN the correct thing you just discovered, your explanation is the THEORY(data/analysis).

Now, when you have already formed the THEORY(data/analysis), you have to put in a concise statement to describe or state it. Then you can summarize the THEORY into a LAW(conclusion ).

Are we clear now? Whew!

najib632:


No sir, A scientific Law is a proved theory as simple as that. A Law has no deficiencies while a theory has, take for example Newton's laws of Motion has no deficiency but Albert Einsteins theory of relativity is still a theory because it has some defects even though it's still applicable in some aspects but not in others.

I have taken my time to explain to you the scientific method up there. You seem to attend a public school where your science teacher didn't properly explain the scientific method to you. Read it more than once please.

You cannot prove a theory, because a theory is formed after an experiment. You cannot go to Lagos state when you're already in Lagos state.
Einstein's theory of relativity is a tested and correct hypothesis, because they call it theory doesn't mean it is not correct. It has no defects. In reality it is Newton's law that has defects. Newton was correct too but he didn't cover much grounds like Enstein's theory. You need to educate yourself. You appear as a mediocre, no wonder you believe in an imaginary God

I have so many pictorial evidence but I can only upload 4

Akin1212:


You have proven it yourself here. I don't need to stress myself at all.

No sir, I haven't.

Akin1212:


This is very laughable, let me ask you a simple question, are you even a scientist? You obviously didn't get the order of the scientific method correctly. It seems you need lots of explanations done for you on science. Now read the below explanation carefully, I'll make it very simple.

The steps of the scientific metgods are - observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory(data /analysis), conclusion or law. Check it anywhere, online,your textbook, just anywhere except your quran.

No I am not a scientist, The Qur'an is not a book of science it is a book of signs, yes I made a mistake but it's not far from what you said.

Akin1212:



After making an observation of a phenomena, you will have to make a hypothesis of what could be happening. After the hypothesis is made, you will have to test your hypothesis to confirm if it is right or wrong.

The only way to test hypothesis is to conduct an experiment. After the experiment, if the hypothesis is wrong based on the experiment, that is the end because you cannot go further, the hypothesis is wrong already.

But if the hypothesis is right or correct based on the experiment, that means what you hypothesized is correct. Once you're correct, you attempt to EXPLAIN the correct thing you just discovered, your explanation is the THEORY(data/analysis).

Now, when you have already formed the THEORY(data/analysis), you have to put in a concise statement to describe or state it. Then you can summarize the THEORY into a LAW(conclusion ).

Are we clear now? Whew!

Yes I understand, thanks.

Akin1212:


I have taken my time to explain to you the scientific method up there. You seem to attend a public school where your science teacher didn't properly explain the scientific method to you. Read it more than once please.

You cannot prove a theory, because a theory is formed after an experiment. You cannot go to Lagos state when you're already in Lagos state.
Einstein's theory of relativity is a tested and correct hypothesis, because they call it theory doesn't mean it is not correct. It has no defects. In reality it is Newton's law that has defects. Newton was correct too but he didn't cover much grounds like Enstein's theory. You need to educate yourself.

Ok thanks for the explanation, you just reminded me of something why is the theory of perpetual motion not accepted even though it is a well constructed theory, because it violates the second law of thermodynamics right? So how will one be able to relate the two from your explanation Sir?

Newton's laws are not as criticised as Einstein's theory of relativity, that's a fact sir. Because quantum physics is contradicting many of Einsteins theories.

Akin1212:


You appear as a mediocre, no wonder you believe in an imaginary God.
I have so many pictorial evidence but I can only upload 4

Yeah I might be a mediocre, I don't really care though, maybe you're trying to make me angry I guess, but I am not arguing with you for my own sake I am arguing with you for sake of Allah so I cannot be angry with you. Just to let you know though you haven't said anything to me with substance apart from attacking the two mistakes I have made, and I will always believe in Allah till I die because I don't see any reason not to. It appears you're a rich person, it's not hard for a rich person to be deluded by the devil though, so I am not surprised,

Atheist disprove this verse for me:

أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا ۖ وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ ۖ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

(Sahih International)
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?

-Sura Al-Anbiya'21, Ayah 30

najib632:
No sir, I haven't.

No I am not a scientist, The Qur'an is not a book of science it is a book of signs, yes I made a mistake but it's not far from what you said.

It's very far from what I said. You placed theory before experiment. That's a very big error.

najib632:


Yes I understand, thanks.

You're welcome.

najib632:


Ok thanks for the explanation, you just reminded me of something why is the theory of perpetual motion not accepted even though it is a well constructed theory, because it violates the second law of thermodynamics right? So how will one be able to relate the two from your explanation Sir?

There is nothing like the theory of perpetual motion. However, there is a term called perpetual motion which means indefinite motion. But a machine that will move indefinitely without an energy source is impossible.

The idea is a hypothesis that has not been demonstrated to work through experiment. Energy is the force used to do work, without it nothing can be done.

najib632:


Newton's laws are not as criticised as Einstein's theory of relativity, that's a fact sir. Because quantum physics is contradicting many of Einsteins theories.

Quantum physics is promoting Einstein's work instead. Don't be mistaken.

najib632:


Yeah I might be a mediocre, I don't really care though, maybe you're trying to make me angry I guess, but I am not arguing with you for my own sake I am arguing with you for sake of Allah so I cannot be angry with you. Just to let you know though you haven't said anything to me with substance apart from attacking the two mistakes I have made, and I will always believe in Allah till I die because I don't see any reason not to. It appears you're a rich person, it's not hard for a rich person to be deluded by the devil though, so I am not surprised,

Because you think this garbage, doesn't mean it's true. I haven't seen the devil before nor hear from him,have you?

najib632:


Atheist disprove this verse for me:

أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا ۖ وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ ۖ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

(Sahih International)
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?

-Sura Al-Anbiya'21, Ayah 30

There is nothing here, except if you're saying we were not created by Allah. Because I know you're trying to justify the Qur'an by posting this trash. If Quran says every living thing came from water then why does it also say man was created from clay, earth and mud? Or man is not a living thing?

It seems the Qur'an is also confused just as you are.

tintingz:
Most Islamic countries reject scientific theories, you even called evolution a fallacy, so I still don't get your point?h

Anything that goes against Qur'an and Sunnah or that tries to promote atheism is a fallacy.

tintingz:


We don't believe in the devil or any fairy beings.

And everything is not a myth.

This hypocritical is Santa not a fairy being?

tintingz:


Why do you think Santa don't exist?

He's a character created from the story a 4th century Christian saint, Nicolas kris kringle read about him here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

tintingz:

All this are irrelevant, Santa Claus exist that's the premise. You're yet to tell me how you think he doesn't.

Read that above and what I am saying is not irrelevant, he is a Christian character and Christians are misguided why do you like dodging things you can't disprove, stop saying it's irrelevant by correcting me.

tintingz:


We are talking about silicon, you saying scientists cannot create organic elements.

Ooo that, its because you dodged my statement on Quantum mechanics, and you refuse to admit science cannot explain everything that's why I am trying to use any possible means to prove it to you.

tintingz:


Should I show you how God and evolution cannot fit?

I already know that evolution tries to justify the non-existence of Allah, but you can still tell me.

tintingz:

Where is evidence of Adam, Eve?

A research was led by Senior Research Associate Mark Stoeckle and Research Associate David Thaler of the university of Basel, Switzerland.
They examined the genetic barcode if over 5 million animals from 100,000 different species and they concluded that humans are from a single pair of adults
after a catastrophic event.
Tgis

tintingz:
Most Islamic countries reject scientific theories, you even called evolution a fallacy, so I still don't get your point?h

Anything that goes against Qur'an and Sunnah or that tries to promote atheism is a fallacy.

tintingz:


We don't believe in the devil or any fairy beings.

And everything is not a myth.

This hypocritical is Santa not a fairy being?

tintingz:


Why do you think Santa don't exist?

He's a character created from the story a 4th century Christian saint, Nicolas kris kringle read about him here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

tintingz:

All this are irrelevant, Santa Claus exist that's the premise. You're yet to tell me how you think he doesn't.

Read that above and what I am saying is not irrelevant, he is a Christian character and Christians are misguided why do you like dodging things you can't disprove, stop saying it's irrelevant by correcting me.

tintingz:


We are talking about silicon, you saying scientists cannot create organic elements.

Ooo that, its because you dodged my statement on Quantum mechanics, and you refuse to admit science cannot explain everything that's why I am trying to use any possible means to prove it to you.

tintingz:


Should I show you how God and evolution cannot fit?

I already know that evolution tries to justify the non-existence of Allah, but you can still tell me.

tintingz:

Where is evidence of Adam, Eve?

A research was led by Senior Research Associate Mark Stoeckle and Research Associate David Thaler of the university of Basel, Switzerland.
They examined the genetic barcode if over 5 million animals from 100,000 different species and they concluded that humans are from a single pair of adults
after a catastrophic event.
These bar codes reside outside the nuclei of living cells and also they suggest that not only people come from a single of adults but 9 out of every 10 animal species as well.

سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْأَزْوَاجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنْبِتُ الْأَرْضُ وَمِنْ أَنْفُسِهِمْ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ

(Sahih International)
Exalted is He who created all pairs - from what the earth grows and from themselves and from that which they do not know.

-Sura Ya-Seen, Ayah 36

najib632:
Anything that goes against Qur'an and Sunnah or that tries to promote atheism is a fallacy.

Lol, what is a fallacy?

This hypocritical is Santa not a fairy being?

He's a character created from the story a 4th century Christian saint, Nicolas kris kringle read about him here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

Santa Claus lived on forever, he exist.

You haven't show how Santa doesn't exist.

We know about Santa from books just like how you know Allah from a book.

Read that above and what I am saying is not irrelevant, he is a Christian character and Christians are misguided why do you like dodging things you can't disprove, stop saying it's irrelevant by correcting me.

Wether he's a Christian character or a misguided belief doesn't negate his existence! It's like saying because Muhammad is a Muslim and Muslims are misguided therefore he didn't rode on a donkey to heaven. This is not a logical argument.

Know the difference between Belief and evidence. When it comes to evidence it is proving but when it comes to belief it doesn't require a proof.

There is no proof of Allah, no proof of Santa or the flying donkey, they are belief system or something you call faith.

Your counter to the premise is irrelevant, it is more like a straw man.

Ooo that, its because you dodged my statement on Quantum mechanics, and you refuse to admit science cannot explain everything that's why I am trying to use any possible means to prove it to you.

Sigh. science doesn't know everything, I said it in my previous posts.

Science are working towards explaining the phenomena of our natural world and they are progressing. Science have answered and solve a lot problems than religion.

Kindly stop attacking straw man.

I already know that evolution tries to justify the non-existence of Allah, but you can still tell me.

Evolution doesn't try to justify non-existence of Allah, the thing is Evolution has nothing to do with God.

Anybody can simply said their fairy being or a god created everything through evolutionary process but if we look at evolutionary process it contradict the attributes of Allah, it makes Allah imperfect.

Allah is said to be ominipotent and knows all but in evolution things evolve very slow, changes and modify. If Allah is said to use evolution then he is not perfect, not powerful and not all knowing.

A research was led by Senior Research Associate Mark Stoeckle and Research Associate David Thaler of the university of Basel, Switzerland.
They examined the genetic barcode if over 5 million animals from 100,000 different species and they concluded that humans are from a single pair of adults
after a catastrophic event.
This

Were these pair of adults evolve from Homo heidelbergensis, Homo rhodesiensis or Homo antecessor..... homo erectus too Homo sapiens, were they like apes? How do they link to your fairy Adam and Eve?
What about the Neanderthal?

tintingz:
The funny thing is, I used to believe in this nonsense when I was a muslim. "Scientific miracles of the Quran".

Then you weren't a proper guided Muslim then. Anyone who bases his faith on such would have problems and your life is evident from this.

Demmzy15:
Then you weren't a proper guided Muslim then. Anyone who bases his faith on such would have problems and your life is evident from this.

You mean he wasn't a properly indoctrinated Muslim. I agree and I am happy for him too.

Akin1212:


You mean he wasn't a properly indoctrinated Muslim. I agree and I am happy for him too.

Who's this Yoruba Christian spamming my mention?

Go through the thread see how you fumbled, you just plainly looked like a fool.

Demmzy15:
Then you weren't a proper guided Muslim then. Anyone who bases his faith on such would have problems and your life is evident from this.

Even tho I'm not a scientist, I have always love science even when I was a Muslim, they are more reliable than religious fairytales.

The bolded is a projected fallacy, go through the thread I have created when I was a Muslim, I even did a topic about "scientific miracles in the Quran".

Well maybe your "proper guided" means indoctrination and brainwashing, I would like to know what you mean by that.

Akin1212:


You mean he wasn't a properly indoctrinated Muslim. I agree and I am happy for him too.

Lol, you also spoke my mind.

Demmzy15:
Who's this Yoruba Christian spamming my mention?

Go through the thread see how you fumbled, you just plainly looked like a fool.

Where did he claim to be Christian?

Demmzy15:
Who's this Yoruba Christian spamming my mention?

Go through the thread see how you fumbled, you just plainly looked like a fool.

Yoruba? Yes. Christian? No.
Did you buy this mention from Nairaland? I suggest you sue me. Lol

I know, I know. I know what you read will look like I fumbled to primitive minds like yours, that was why I had to leave the ignorant person I was arguing with. He was just like you and not ready to learn. I can't be wasting my time. But seeing that this quoted message is all you can come up with, laying claim to mentions, have wonderful ignorant life.