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Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by Niyi53(m): 3:58pm On Dec 09, 2018
no problem. keep waiting.... I hope some of us... or some of you would still be alive to witness it turns out to be false.!


Jesus who is to come has already appeared. But the world is still finding it very difficult to believe.
he is in person of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as), the Holy founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community.


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Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by PrincewithGod(m): 4:41pm On Dec 09, 2018
braveboy64:
na so them they talk since
Yes na so dem de talk since but that is what people said of Noah and the flood and they were taken unawares by the flood. Give your life to Jesus Christ and prepare yourself for the rapture. A lot of people have put their mind so much on the rature that they have forgotten about death, when you die, your own rapture has taken place, so make sure you ready.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by PrincewithGod(m): 4:42pm On Dec 09, 2018
Niyi53:
no problem. keep waiting.... I hope some of us... or some of you would still be alive to witness it turns out to be false.!


Jesus who is to come has already appeared. But the world is still finding it very difficult to believe.
he is in person of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as), the Holy founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community.


www.alislam.org for more information
Chai!
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by echodrum(m): 4:42pm On Dec 09, 2018
bedspread:


I hv seen it! So wats ur point!
It has nothing to do with the topic
exactly my point. There is no way you will make sense out that because if you do, your believe will be in danger. In case you don't getit,, Jesus Christ clearly told his followers that some of them will not die before he comes back.... The question to you is " are some of Jesus followers still alive"? If they are not alive then two things are involved
1. Jesus Christ might have come and gone
2. Or Bible is just a piece of fairy tales book.
Which ever one is true, it means your faith is in jeopardy.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by nanakgh(m): 4:59pm On Dec 09, 2018
Is this a meeting place for mentally ill people?
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by nanakgh(m): 5:13pm On Dec 09, 2018
0balufonlll:
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The problem here is the inability of people to question what they believe in. Let us assume you have been wired to fear the unknown and operate in the real of faith, you can at least develop the interest in what you believe in by studying its history extensively.

To understand the place of Jesus in history as a human or a spirit then one must split Hebrew history into the pre-Jesus & Jesus era.

1. Pre-Jesus era: it is on record that Hebrews were a nomadic people like the Arabs. They roamed the modern day Middle East and their eventual settler lifestyle was as a result of the collapse of Sumerian civilization in Mesopotamia from which they tapped into & also helped spread. The early history of Hebrews is the one of almost endless intra & inter group warfare over land resources. They were around during the rise of Medes, Hittites, Amorites, Philistines, Assyrians, Persians & so on whom they had warfare & diplomatic relations with at several points. It was during this period of warfares that they began to drop 'prophecies' about God leading them back to their land and hints about a saviour was being dropped bit by bit.

2. Jesus era: Greek had collapsed & Rome continued Greek legacy & established its own. Rome conquered the world and had strong establishments wherever they sacked & occupied. The Hebrewland was one of such places. The relations between Hebrews was the one of constant civil stife, revolt & bloodshed because of the imposition of rules, tax, culture by the Romans which led to the emergence of sects, mostly militant who operated on apocalyptic sentiments that there was a messiah & his coming was near at that time. They believed with the tribulation, misery & injustice they suffered under Romans, there would be a destructrion of Rome (Baruch Prophecy) and the Messiah would appear to inaugurate a period of happiness and plenty for them. One of such militant groups was led by John the Baptist (the dead sea scrolls described several of such groups). John the Baptist's group like others believed the more the war, bloodshed & suffering uNder tHe Romans, the quicker the Messiah would appear (sort of like how Muslims these days carry out suicide mission today to hasten the arrival of the Madhi). It was during this period Jesus entered the picture and proclaimed himself the Messiah. Some followed him but most Jews disregard/ed him because he did not fit the bill of the Messiah they expected.

It was during this period the Romans saw the effect of religion on the Hebrews and decided to invent Christianity as a term, a religion and also made it a state religion in Rome. It paid of, for they were able to effectively manage their political hold on the Hebrews. They went further to design the Bible at the council of Nicea and altered the apocalypse & everything attached to it that was directly in reference to Roman occupation of Hebrewland to be a world problem (Roman empire was worldwide anyway). Several centuries later, King James organized his own council to redesign a bible and altered it greatly because he wanted to divorce his brother's wife he married which the pope refused him.

In a nutshell, the entire apocalypse, rapture, second coming were all religious sentiments of the year 1 to 2AD. These ideas were invented to rally Hebrews against Romans. The messiah was supposed to be militant and destroy Rome for the liberation of Hebrews. He has nothing to do with the world and peoples of other culture. While there is a God, let us no bother ourselves with believing in and predicting religious response of a group to the political problems they had thousands of centuries ago. The Romans invented Christianity, Bible & Messianic status of Jesus - the English also tried it by inventing Anglicanism & another Bible to suit their problems at the time.



My guy, abeg give me some sources to read from. Your short piece was as educative as it was informative. Keep it up. The sources tho please.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by Anas09: 5:52pm On Dec 09, 2018
watchwoman:

Madam Anas, or Analice, I just want to take time out and declare my love for you, I follow your posts and testimonies a lot here and I can say you're certainly a blessed lady...By the way, I hope you were at Shiloh 2018 dominion thanksgiving today...first service here at Canaanland was more than glorious
Oh my dearest sister, thanks for your kind words. May the Lord cause the land to be subdued before this year 2019.

I did not miss a moment of Shiloh. I'd miss it only if i were dead. The thanks giving was indeed awesome.

Dearest, expected the very best of everything from Abba Father this year. Don't forget your very first assignment before you saw the light of day was to Dominate the earth. Altho Adam Sub-changed it , but Christ has restored all back to you. Reach out and take it. It's yours. Papa is such a man who understand what his rights are and he is taking all.

The Holy Spirit through Apst Paul in 1Cor 3: 20b says "All things are yours". All things means all things. Nothing lacking, nothing missing. All.

Walk in total dominion. Let this mind be in you even as it was in Christ. He was unstoppable, you shd walk in that consciousness too.

May Jesus be forever praised.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by Anas09: 5:53pm On Dec 09, 2018
ednut1:
so when he comes how would u know he is the one What also happens if he get arrested and rekilled
Which part of the planet are you from?
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by bedspread: 6:23pm On Dec 09, 2018
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echodrum:
exactly my point. There is no way you will make sense out that because if you do, your believe will be in danger. In case you don't getit,, Jesus Christ clearly told his followers that some of them will not die before he comes back.... The question to you is " are some of Jesus followers still alive"? If they are not alive then two things are involved
1. Jesus Christ might have come and gone
2. Or Bible is just a piece of fairy tales book.
Which ever one is true, it means your faith is in jeopardy.
[/s] All I hv to say to u is Get JESUS CHRIST by all means!

Ignorance will not be an Excuse!
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by LastDays777: 8:11pm On Dec 09, 2018
When predictions are wrong, this is exactly what people will keep saying.

2 Peter 3:4


They will say, "What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created."

By the way @OP we are going to pass through that final fire of tribulation before any thing like 'rapture' .
Prepare for terrible persecution. No one is flying out of here before anything bad happens and that's the hard truth. Read [Mathew 24] properly
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by jiggaz(m): 8:29pm On Dec 09, 2018
LastDays777:
When predictions are wrong, this is exactly what people will keep saying.

2 Peter 3:4



By the way @OP we are going to pass through that final fire of tribulation before any thing like 'rapture' .
Prepare for terrible persecution. No one is flying out of here before anything bad happens and that's the hard truth. Read [Mathew 24] properly
No be me and you biko.... I wont be here during the tribulation because my bible told me so... If you wanna be here during tribulations, then suit yourself. As for me , my family and so many believers all over the world, we will be raptured before the Antichrist shows his face.

Matthew 24 is not written to the Church, it is for the Jewish remnants during the tribulation.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by Anas09: 8:38pm On Dec 09, 2018
LastDays777:
When predictions are wrong, this is exactly what people will keep saying.

2 Peter 3:4



By the way @OP we are going to pass through that final fire of tribulation before any thing like 'rapture' .
Prepare for terrible persecution. No one is flying out of here before anything bad happens and that's the hard truth. Read [Mathew 24] properly
The Church has been going through persecution since inception sir. What Jesus the Bridegroom of the Church will not allow is for the Church, his bride to be present here while the Antichrist ravish the earth.
So long as the Church is still here, the Holy Ghost will be here, and as long as the Holy Ghost his here, the person of the Antichrist will not show his face.

Two Masters can't rule at the same time. God apportioned 7yrs for satan and his hordes to rule supreme on earth. The Church shall not be here when that happens.

How una dey read Bible sef?

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Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by echodrum(m): 8:46pm On Dec 09, 2018
bedspread:
[s][/s] All I hv to say to u is Get JESUS CHRIST by all means!

Ignorance will not be an Excuse!
I think you are the ignorant one here. Fact is that you do not have the logical capacity to defend your argument. All you know is Jesus this and Jesus that and when someone ask you to explain, you can't.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by LastDays777: 8:56pm On Dec 09, 2018
jiggaz:
No be me and you biko.... I wont be here during the tribulation because my bible told me so... If you wanna be here during tribulations, then suit yourself. As for me , my family and so many believers all over the world, we will be raptured before the Antichrist shows his face.

Matthew 24 is not written to the Church, it is for the Jewish remnants during the tribulation.

Revelation 13:7


And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Why still make war with the saints since they are all raptured? Did you see anything like Jewish remant?

For a very long time as a baby Christian, I have always believed that 'sweet message' that we are going to be raptured out of this place before the antichrist shows up. This is what they preach in almost all churches. To make you comfortable.

Please research about "project blue beam". The globalist are going to fake a rapture. If you are not transformed within secs do not rush to be beamed up. It's coming.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by jiggaz(m): 9:02pm On Dec 09, 2018
LastDays777:


Revelation 13:7



Why still make war with the saints since they are all raptured? Did you see anything like Jewish remant?

For a very long time as a baby Christian, I have always believed that 'sweet message' that we are going to be raptured out of this place before the antichrist shows up. This is what they preach in almost all churches. To make you comfortable.

Please research about "project blue beam". The globalist are going to fake a rapture. If you are not transformed within secs do not rush to be beamed up. It's coming.

I will say this for the last time... The saints there are the Jewish remnant and the people that came to Christ after the church is raptured. After the rapture of the church, so many people will repent and come to Christ. But to be a Christian during that time is a pretty hard life. They are the saints the Antichrist will fight and kill.

The church is the bride of Christ. What do you mean by sweet message? Is the Gospel not Good news again? Is the Gospel supposed to make you sad? I wonder how u people read the Bible sef... I tire for una.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by bedspread: 9:17pm On Dec 09, 2018
echodrum:
I think you are the ignorant one here. Fact is that you do not have the logical capacity to defend your argument. All you know is Jesus this and Jesus that and when someone ask you to explain, you can't.
To Follow JESUS, u need to drop your little brain...
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by LastDays777: 9:18pm On Dec 09, 2018
Anas09:

The Church has been going through persecution since inception sir. What Jesus the Bridegroom of the Church will not allow is for the Church, his bride to be present here while the Antichrist ravish the earth.
So long as the Church is still here, the Holy Ghost will be here, and as long as the Holy Ghost his here, the person of the Antichrist will not show his face.

Two Masters can't rule at the same time. God apportioned 7yrs for satan and his hordes to rule supreme on earth. The Church shall not be here when that happens.

How una dey read Bible sef?

We have not seen any persecution yet. This is still the beginning. The persecution that is coming on this world will make Hitler's holocaust to look like a child's play.

Just wait till 2020 when the pope will declare the one world religion.

Many Christians are not ready for martyrdom because they are scared to die for Christ. Look at how most of the apostles died. Jesus allowed them to pass through that fire. Same thing will happen this last days.


We are not of this world. We are not of the flesh. We have to prepare our mind never to deny the lion of Judah even if they place sharp sword at your neck.

Get ready for martyrdom. We will pass through that final fire.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by LastDays777: 9:36pm On Dec 09, 2018
jiggaz:
I will say this for the last time... The saints there are the Jewish remnant and the people that came to Christ after the church is raptured. After the rapture of the church, so many people will repent and come to Christ. But to be a Christian during that time is a pretty hard life. They are the saints the Antichrist will fight and kill.

The church is the bride of Christ. What do you mean by sweet message? Is the Gospel not Good news again? Is the Gospel supposed to make you sad? I wonder how u people read the Bible sef... I tire for una.

Enoch1:1


The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed

And also remember the parable of the tares Jesus talked about. Who will be removed first from the earth when the time comes

The tares or the wheat?
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by echodrum(m): 10:21am On Dec 10, 2018
bedspread:
To Follow JESUS, u need to drop your little brain...
Good for you!
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by echodrum(m): 10:21am On Dec 10, 2018
bedspread:
To Follow JESUS, u need to drop your little brain...
Good for you. That brings the conclusion that you do not understand how things work because you have obviously submitted your brain to your pastors.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by bedspread: 2:25pm On Dec 10, 2018
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echodrum:
Good for you. That brings the conclusion that you do not understand how things work because you have obviously submitted your brain to your pastors.
[/s]

I know u understand! Let's see where it takes u to...

When it comes to things of GOD, I drop my reasoning no! Infact I become a mumu...
Dts what has brought me this far!
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by echodrum(m): 8:14am On Dec 11, 2018
bedspread:
[s][/s]

I know u understand! Let's see where it takes u to...

[b]When it comes to things of GOD, I drop my reasoning no! Infact I become a mumu...
[/b]Dts what has brought me this far!
SMH
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by Anas09: 1:21pm On Dec 11, 2018
LastDays777:


We have not seen any persecution yet. This is still the beginning. The persecution that is coming on this world will make Hitler's holocaust to look like a child's play.

Just wait till 2020 when the pope will declare the one world religion.

Many Christians are not ready for martyrdom because they are scared to die for Christ. Look at how most of the apostles died. Jesus allowed them to pass through that fire. Same thing will happen this last days.


We are not of this world. We are not of the flesh. We have to prepare our mind never to deny the lion of Judah even if they place sharp sword at your neck.

Get ready for martyrdom. We will pass through that final fire.
First off, i am not afraid to die, for there's no dead actually, just a transition. That said. Still, If the Antichrist will begin his Rule in person starting 2020, then Rapture wld take place before 2020, because the Wedding or feast of the Bride and her Bridegroom will be going on the same time the Beast will be ruling on earth. Immediately, his 7yrs window period is over, Christ will return in the Flesh personally to rule the world for 1000yrs. while satan/the beast will be chained in darkness.
Rev. 19:7-9
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me the true sayings of God.

And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.


I repeat, the Church has been facing persecution from the outset. I'm not saying it won't intensify as the NWO gets ready to physically enthrone their Night king, but WE WILL NO BE HERE when their king rules supreme.

The Christians who'll be Left behind will be the likes of the 5foolish and Careless Christians who refuse to watch for the return of their Bridegroom.

The Holy Spirit will not tussle with the Beast over the rulership of the earth. He gave him the 7yrs in the first place.
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by LastDays777: 1:43pm On Dec 11, 2018
Anas09:

First off, i am not afraid to die, for there's no dead actually, just a transition. That said. Still, If the Antichrist will begin his Rule in person starting 2020, then Rapture wld take place before 2020, because the Wedding or feast of the Bride and her Bridegroom will be going on the same time the Beast will be ruling on earth. Immediately, his 7yrs window period is over, Christ will return in the Flesh personally to rule the world for 1000yrs. while satan/the beast will be chained in darkness.
Rev. 19:7-9
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me the true sayings of God.

And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.


I repeat, the Church has been facing persecution from the outset. I'm not saying it won't intensify as the NWO gets ready to physically enthrone their Night king, but WE WILL NO BE HERE when their king rules supreme.

The Christians who'll be Left behind will be the likes of the 5foolish and Careless Christians who refuse to watch for the return of their Bridegroom.

The Holy Spirit will not tussle with the Beast over the rulership of the earth. He gave him the 7yrs in the first place.

It's alright. I respect your opinion.

Let's get ready for the worse case scenario then if it happens that we are wrong and rapture comes first, that will be nice
Re: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by Anas09: 5:55pm On Dec 11, 2018
LastDays777:


It's alright. I respect your opinion.

Let's get ready for the worse case scenario then if it happens that we are wrong and rapture comes first, that will be nice

Yes my dear. But, know that Jesus loves you too much to leave at the mercy of satan.

If only you know how much satan hates you.

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