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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 4:38am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Osugbo: ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ @Osugbo Hello and welcome aboard. It is nice reading your post. You are the first Sierra Leonian citizen of Creole Yoruba descent that I know of who is a member of Nairaland. Oluwaseun Osewa or Seun Osewa for short who founded in 2005 the hugely successful Nairaland is also of Yoruba-Nigerian ancestry. YOU can visit the Web link below to see more of what Yoruba people are doing in the areas of manufacturing and other professions around the world. ==>https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe/304 I feel very happy reading this post from you as a Diasporan Yoruba. You are indeed part of our history. It is good to know that the Yoruba-Sierra Leonians are still thriving, and in PROMINENT positions in your country of citizenship. I read in the history books in my personal library that a LARGE number of Africans who were liberated by the British Navy from slave ships heading for the Americas and Europe were Yoruba and Congolese/Angolans... with some other ethnicities. Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the first black Bishop of the Anglican church, was an Oyo-Yoruba was was rescued from a Portuguese slave ship that was headed for South America from Lagos and he and other captives wer set free by a British navy schooner in Sierra Leone. He later came back to Nigeria and he was the maternal grandfather of Sir Herbert Heelas Macaulay [another Yoruba of Sierra Leone origin] who was the father of modern Nigerian nationalism and founder of the first political party in Nigeria. I am amazed by the presence of Yoruba-Gambians which I didnt know about before now. I know that Goree Island, Senegal also received a lot of our people of Yoruba ancestry and the I remember the late business mogul, Chief Moshood Abiola who is of Egba-Yoruba origin from Abeokuta was in the forefront of the reparations to Africa struggle, visited the Goree Island in Senegal in the early 1990s and the tour-guide told him that most of those who were received at Goree Island were of Yoruba ancestry. Senegal of course is a direct neighbour of Gambia where you indicated that Yoruba descendants are too! So, @Osugbo, let us get to hear and read more from you and I am following you on NL right now. Hope we can get to meet one-on-one sometime. Regards to all Creole Yoruba in Sierra Leone, Gambia, Bahia in Brazil, Lucumi Yorubas of Cuba, and the rest of the Yoruba Diaspora! We are still keeping it real... with the Akara Iyesa delicacy in Bahia, Brazil despite the ocean that separates both sides of the continent.  All the best! Cc: Olu317 PS. Ode means hunter, and I noticed that you use the spelling Odeh, with a latter h. Very interesting. Adetokunbo is used in Nigeria but I can see Adetokumbo with a letter "m" in Creole Yoruba in Sierra Leone. Okun means SEA or OCEAN in Yoruba langauge. 6 Likes 3 Shares
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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 4:54am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Osugbo: ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ @Osugbo Hello and welcome aboard. It is nice reading your post. You are the first Sierra Leonian citizen of Creole Yoruba descent that I know of who is a member of Nairaland. Oluwaseun Osewa or Seun Osewa for short who founded in 2005 the hugely successful Nairaland is also of Yoruba Nigerian ancestry. YOU can visit the Web link below to see more of what Yoruba people are doing in the areas of manufacturing and other professions around the world. ==>https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe/304 I feel very happy reading this post from you as a Diasporan Yoruba. You are indeed part of our history. It is good to know that the Yoruba-Sierra Leonians are still thriving, and in PROMINENT positions in your country of citizenship. I read in the history books in my personal library that a LARGE number of Africans who were liberated by the British Navy from slave ships heading for the Americas and Europe were Yoruba and Congolese Angolans... with some other ethnicities. Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the first black Bishop of the Anglican church, was an Oyo Yoruba was was rescued from a Portuguese slave ship that was headed for South America from Lagos and he and other captives wer set free by a British navy schooner in Sierra Leone. He later came to Nigeria and he was the maternal grandfather of Sir Hubert Heelas Macauley [another Yoruba of Sierra Leone origin] who was the father of modern Nigerian nationalism and founder of the first political party in Nigeria. I am amazed by the presence of Yoruba-Gambians which I didnt know about before now. I know that Goree Island also received a lot of our people of Yoruba ancestry and the I remember the late business mogul, Chief Moshood Abiola who is of Egba-Yoruba origin from Abeokuta was in the forefront of the reparations to Africa struggle, visited the Goree Island in Senegal in the early 1990s and the tour guide told him that most of those who were received at Gore Island were of Yoruba ancestry. Senegal of course is a direct neighbour of Gambia were you indicated that Yoruba are! So @Osugbo, let us get to hear and read more from you and I am following you on NL right now. Hope we can get to meet one-on-one sometime. Regards to all Creole Yoruba in Sierra Leone, Gambia, Bahia in Brazil, Lucumi Yorubas of Cuba, and the rest of the Yoruba Diaspora! We are still keeping it real... with the kara Iyesa delicacy in Bahia, Brazil despite the ocean that separates both sides of the continent. All the best! Cc: Olu317 PS. Ode is means hunter, and I noticed that you use the spelling Odeh, with a latter "h." Very interesting. Adetokunbo in Nigeria but I can see Adetokumbo with a letter "m" in Creole Yoruba in Sierra Leone. Okun means SEA or OCEAN in Yoruba langauge. 4 Likes 2 Shares
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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 7:40am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Konquest: Interesting piece about Yoruba people in all these places. And I hope one day,unification of all Yorubas will come to be. I am tempted to believed,‘Odeh's' ( hunter) spelling with ‘h' may not be far from the actual accent. Besides, most of Yoruba diaspora's accent are slightly modified from archaic yoruba dialects,which iz as a result of relocation to another enclave or environment. In actual fact, I recalled the reparation MKO demanded in the early 1990s. This was a man who was extremely popular, wealthy and connected to the high and mighty. Unfortunately, no African ever dared in such magnitude demand thereafter him.What a shame! 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 1:00am On Mar 23, 2019 |
Olu317:^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ @Olu317 It is nice to read your reply to my post. I was going to respond yesterday night but there was a glitch with the srver connection. I use a 4G LTE connection so I think the glitch came from NL while trying to post. I originally got to know of this thread by @Osugbo while I was going through YOUR previous posts, and liking or sharing some of them. You are one of my main resources on Yoruba culture and history on NL. This is the kind of UNIQUE thread that should be on the Front Page of NL but will not get there. NL needs to have an additional person to moderate this thread who is of Yoruba descent that will be fair to all and push out more of positive Yoruba-centric topics or threads like this one by @Osugbo. This culture section used to be very notorious for pushing contrived negative topics started by bigots about about the Yoruba on the main Culture thread in the past, and some sanitisation eventually came into play afterwards. The Yoruba of all sub-groups in Sierra Leone were known as "Aku," because they greeted themselves as such. About the Moshood Abiola reparations project in the 1990s, I was even of the opinion that the reparations should only be for the descendants of Africans who were taken as captives to the Americas and their descendants because it is some Africans who sold fellow African Prisoners of War or even some criminals into slavery. For the Yoruba unfortunately we fought a bloody Civil War and some people sold Ijesas, Egbas, Ekitis, Oyos and more into slavery to such an extent that the slave markets were flooded with Yoruba captives in the 1800s. It is good that many Yoruba came back to Nigeria and Benin Republic in Africa from Brazil, Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, USA via Liberia [The Jackson Family who were Yoruba origin in the U.S. settled in Liberia], Sierra Leone and Jamaica. Did you know that there is a community in Jamaica that is known as Bekuta? These people of Egba-Yoruba origin who were liberated by the British Navy were taken by the British from Sierra Leone to Jamaica as indentured workers, in the 1840s, and their descendants still live there till today. Indians were also imported as indentured workers too at that time in history in the 1840s to work on the sugar cane plantations and construct railway lines in Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana. Professor Wole Soyinka visited the community of Yoruba descendants on two different occassions in the 1980s and 1990s. There is Oba Adetayo Haastrup in Osun state whose Royal family ancestor was taken as a captive but got liberated in Sierra Leone, and was given the surname of the Danish Capt. Haastrup who sponsored his education and took care of him after being liberated in Sierra Leone. The family later moved to Nigeria. =>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrick_Kúmókụn_Adédeji_Haastrup Never again! The Yoruba must use all forms of information and communications technology to stay united and NEVER fight a Civil War again. Lack of effective communications breeds suspicion. When I read the book, "The History of the Yorubas" by Rev. Samuel Johnson who is an Oyo Yoruba returnee from Sierra Leone in the 1800s, I felt stunned about the anger and lack of effective communication among the Yoruba subgroups at that time that led to the unravelling of the Oyo Empire. If the Yoruba had been united, no external forces would have been able to invade Yorubaland. As you well know, it was the gallant Ibadan army that defended the rest of Yorubaland against the invasion of the combined Ilorin Yoruba/Fulani/Hausa jihadists who were effectively stopped at Osogbo and Otun-Ekiti and the heads of some of the commanders and the Yoruba betrayers among the Ilorin forces were cut off. All these are in the book by Samuel Johnson. Yes about the different accents or spellings of the Yoruba, If you check the Brazillian and Cuban Yoruba spellings, you will find out that they spell Yemoja as YEMAYA, Osun as OCHUN, Ijesa as IYESHA. OK... I have to sign off now. I wish you a happy weekend with your family! Thanks and all the best! 5 Likes 3 Shares
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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 8:15am On Mar 26, 2019 |
Konquest: Greeting to you konquest, Pardon me for the late response. My research on Àkún-Àkú, proves that it was distinctive name for yoruba salutation during the ancient times, if one consider the meaning of it which is strength or power or good or hale and hearty or well being because ,the name was borne out of salutation to elderly and everryone else to affirm if such woke up healthy and whole or done something; work etc which attract such word . And gradually, it became Okun,which is due to stretch of the word and modification of Yoruba language in Oyo Yoruba dialect. In fact, AKWAABA in Ghana is Àkú Àbó( wellcome,return well, arrive well etc), which is a loan word from Yoruba language through migration of some yoruba people to the Ashanti kingdom. While Yoruba realise the need to fraternize with themselves as their identity in the past and till today. Interestingly, the same word was known in ancient Egypt(kemet) as Hekau,with same meaning as power,strength. Thus, Yoruba identity through her language has always made them outstanding in their sojourn into any Land. Unfortunately, a lot of modern day yorubas especially the academic don't appreciate this distinctive identity of Yorubas because some of them are always desirous to ridicule yoruba identity to west Africa , which the ancient yoruba ancestors were NOT because they were with the knowledge of ritual language of nature's which led to the foundation of modern religion in the world; christainity and Islam. The ancient Yoruba were the people that drifted away from the kemet language. Below is a classic work on Ram carved out of ceramic which stand at par with Egyptians and middle East work. This work is not found outside Yoruba land in West Africa,which conform with migratory lifestyle of ancient Yorubas All the best. 1 Like 2 Shares
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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 4:00am On Mar 27, 2019 |
Olu317:^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ @Olu317 Read the article below in the Weblink. Regional News of Wednesday, 20 November 2013 Source: Graphic.com.gh Yorubas to celebrate 200 years in Ghana https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Yorubas-to-celebrate-200-years-in-Ghana-292587# https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Yorubas-to-celebrate-200-years-in-Ghana-292587# @Olu317 Greetings to you too. NO problem about the response! I appreciate your positive feedback which is LOADED!  Are you a research academic in an institution? I ask this question because a lot of your posts that I have read are very detailed, and are not the usual stuff that you find as DUMBED DOWN historical information. The ancient Yoruba were the people that drifted away from the Kemet language. Below is a classic work on Ram carved out of ceramic which stand at par with Egyptians and middle East work. This work is not found outside Yoruba land in West Africa,which conform with migratory lifestyle of ancient Yorubas. In actual sense, I have read about the history of ancient Egypt because I grew up in a house where my father ensured that our family library was stocked with books... encyclopedias from different publishers and more... so I read a lot of stimulating books on upper Egypt and lower Egypt, Kemet, Nubia, Phoenicia now known as Lebanon, and more. With the advent of the Internet and my first use of that electonic and communications tool in the late 1990s I just read more international history on demand! I even read that before the Sahara desert began to expand vigorously, there was a movement of people between North Africa and West Africa with horse drawn carriages, and goods and people interacting in the ancient times in the BCE era. So, I also believe what you indicated in your post about Yoruba having some links with ancient Kemet or Egypt. DNA tests will prove this FACT soon because it is out in the domain that the Pharoahs of ancient Egypt had black ancestries in them based on DNA tests that have been done on their preserved bodies in the Pyramid, which are now on display in the museums. Please do more follow up on this to get more insights! Archaelogists have also found paintings of chariots and people on ROCKS in the Sahara desert to prove that people were criss crossing the routes in the BCE era between West Africa and the North long before the Trans Saharan trade in goods and slaves. There is also a Sudanese or Nubian connection of some people in Kaduna in Northern Nigeria who are known as Nimbia who claim their ancestors came from Nubia or black Sudan before their Arab invasion of their land and fierse battles took place. I listened to the documentary on BBC Radio in the early 2000s! In fact, AKWAABA in Ghana is Àkú Àbó(wellcome,return well, arrive well etc), which is a loan word You are very vast in knowledge Olu317! I read within the last 10 years too from online sources that our people, the Yoruba have been in Ghana as traders for over 200 years, just like you have Hausa traders who migrated to Northern Ghana, and Hausa is still spoken in Ghana. The CIA World Fact Book indicates that there are over 1 million Yoruba who are citizens of Ghana. In Accra, the Ga indigenous owners of Accra claim to have come from Nigeria or Ife! I have a former Ghanaian school mate, Brian, who is now a Senior Investment Analyst in New York. I have to ask him more about this because he is also a Ga. His father was a lecturer in Nigeria in the oil boom era when we went to school together, and he and I were close school friends in the cosmopolitan and multicultural school I then attended. Thanks for this insightful information and do keep me posted on any other info. Have a great week ahead! P.S. Last but not least, did you interact by collecting the email contact of @Osugbo? He has not been regular on this thread and forum and I would have l oved us to ask him more questions. Maybe if we visit Sierra Leone, he can be our guide. It was some of the demobilised slave ships that the liberated Yoruba purchased and were using to trade in the 1800s across West Africa and they became very rich and could afford to even send their children to universities in England. This was before 1900, and they were known as the African Merchant Princes. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 10:19am On Mar 27, 2019 |
Konquest: I agree with the information you shared thoroughly because I have come across some of the information you posted as well. Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate. I won't take away the fact that people like you and the well studied ones on NL are the reason I am always careful to differentiate fiction from fact, when I post, which is the reason I am always on my toes. As regard your question, I am academia who is an idependent researcher with loosened affiliation with a semitic research Centre. The reason for this loosened affiliation is a lesson learned in Bishop Samuel John ( Ayo Ogun) travail because I dont intend to over expose by research work which critics must have different perspective that know of. In fact,I intend to keep it this way until the book on Yoruba people whose spoken language is Semitic origin via my research and whose history is tied Ancient Hebrew in Middle East and Kemet before migration Egypt and to Middle East where they excelled through their knowledge of Cosmology and religion. And eventual return back through Egypt to present day Nigeria. As it stand, the oranmiyan obelisk and other work in that manner are the artifacts the ancient Yoruba ancestors use as a medium of information of writing that the ancient Yoruba left for us to unravel their identity. Interestingly, these artificats are Semitic works, obelisks i.e similar are of Semitic origin . Now the question on people's mind is: Do I know the meaning on Oranmiyan's obelisk? Yes I do. How ? It is just studying the ancient kemet pictograph and Semitic hieroglyphs and comparing with the obelisks found in Yoruba land. In actual fact, anyone can solve it . Do you know ‘al' a prefix if added to agbara becomes alagbara(all powerful) is the ancient discovered alphabet of the ancients Hebrew in Egypt whose first alphabet is ‘al/el—modern Hebrew ‘al—eph' ? Even the second letter is Beyt. Yes it is, because in,‘1905, was the year Flinders Petrie, a renowned Egyptologist and pioneer in modern archeology, discovered inscriptions of previously unknown symbols at Serabit el-Khadim. Thereafter, Dr. Alan H. Gardiner, Another renowned Egyptologist, studied these inscriptions in detail. He discovered that these Sinaitic inscriptions consisted of a total of thirty-two symbols. Because of the limited number of symbols Dr. Gardiner determined that this was an alphabet.’ Interestingly, the above information showed the desperation western researchers in seeking out the identity of who were known as ancient Hebrew that lived in Egypt with their foot print and with a tremendous population that disappeared along the Sudanese belt remained a mystery. Based on this do I realised that ‘Pitchfork' sign and this symbol is what's on Oranmiyan obelisk and this inscription has meaning in places they were found,in which non was found along Yoruba people in sub sahara Africa. ....... let me stop here because I already gave out a sacred information for self,until proper time. Despite many postulation by many researchers, fact'll eventually emerge through well researched work.Note: I don't know much about osugbo . Have a joyfull time outthere. Cheers 5 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Lifestone(m): 6:40pm On Mar 29, 2019 |
Osugbo:Interesting, I am following this thread. Proudly Yoruba 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 2:09am On Mar 30, 2019 |
Olu317:^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Hi Olu, Thanks for this information. I have a bit of jet lag right now from my long international air trip, but I have to quickly respond to your last post so it gets to you on time for onward digestion. I had already typed most of the information in this post before now and saved it on my mobile device. I actually read about your post on how you have DECODED the iconic Oranmiyan Obelisk on one of your threads. Well done for your insights. I think you linked your findings to a Yoruba/Hebrew connection. Also read more about: "The Nupe and the Origins and Evolution of the Yoruba c. 1275-1897" Published in ©2005. By Idris Shaaba Jimada. A HISTORY OF THE NUPE, C.1068 – 1810 A.D..pdf ==>http://kubanni.abu.edu.ng/jspui/bitstream/123456789/9972/1/A%20HISTORY%20OF%20THE%20NUPE%2C%20C.1068%20%E2%80%93%201810%20A.D..pdf However, I have some archival materials that I have had for... cumulatively within the last 20 years now that I would like to share with you on the history of Ancient Near Eastern archaelogy. Middle Eastern or bible archaeology used to be the old name, but the FORMAL TERM used by archaeologists now is Near Eastern Archaeology. This information and more, have been in the public domain for decades among scholars and archaelogists... and even among some knowlegeable religious scholars in the orthodox churches for over the past one hundred and fifty years! Some include Prof. Ze’ev Herzog [born in 1941 and still alive as of 2019], an eminent Israeli archeologist, professor of archaeology at The Department of Archaeology and Ancient Near Eastern Cultures at Tel Aviv University specializing in social archaeology, ancient architecture and field archaeology. ==>http://noahkennedy.net/zeev-herzog-and-the-historicity-of-the-bible/ "Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho: Biblical Myth and Archaeological Reality" ==>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/704190/posts ==>http://www.umich.edu/~proflame/neh/arch.htm ==>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze%27ev_Herzog This post which I have written as ARCHIVAL MATERIAL #1 to ARCHIVAL MATERIAL #4, fits into the Culture thread as well... because it deals with culture, archaeology and religion, and will also help you to REFINE... if needed, your insightful research work on the Opa Oranmiyan. Please read them with an open mind and you can contact me later on your observations. We live in an AGE OF REASONONING and must ASK QUESTIONS. We will NOT accept anything less than the truth instead of mythology! Also see the book: "The Age of Reason," by one of America's founding fathers, Thomas Paine, in which Paine labels the OT as "spurious." ARCHIVAL MATERIAL #1. Prof. Ze'ev Herzog wrote the 1999 article entitled: "Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho: Biblical Myth and Archaeological Reality" ====>http://www.umich.edu/~proflame/neh/arch.htm Deconstructing the walls of Jericho Friday, October 29, 1999 "Following 70 years of intensive excavations in the Land of Israel, archaeologists have found out: The patriarchs' acts are legendary, the Israelites did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, they did not conquer the land. Neither is there any mention of the empire of David and Solomon, nor of the source of belief in the God of Israel. These facts have been known for years, but Israel is a stubborn people and nobody wants to hear about it." ==>http://www.umich.edu/~proflame/neh/arch.htm Prof. Ze'ev Herzog wrote the article originally in Ha’aretz, a leading centrist Israeli daily, that precipitated a firestorm of debate among Israeli intellectuals and the general public. FURTHER READING: ==>http://mosesneverexisted.zohosites.com/ ==>http://www.truthbeknown.com/biblemyth.htm ARCHIVAL MATERIAL #2. The Bible Unearthed: Archeology’s New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman. 383 pages long, The Bible Unearthed is an excellent primer on current scholarship (as of 2001) as it relates to the historical events recorded in the Old Testament. It demonstrated using lots of archaeological evidence that many stories in the Bible DO NOT TELL EVENTS and how history suggested they occurred, while other stories proved to fit perfectly in archaeology. It explained that some stories, such as the wandering of the patriarchs, the Exodus from Egypt, the Conquest of Canaan, and the United Monarchy under David and Solomon may not have happened and rather may be based on stories indigenous to the people of Israel. ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Unearthed ==>https://www.scribd.com/document/152549967/The-Bible-Unearthed-Finkelstein-Israel-Silbermann-Neil-a [You can download the pdf book here if you sign up to SCRIBD, or you use a FREE SCRIBD DOWNLOADER]  Cyrus Cylinder, a BURNT CLAY legal proclamation by Cyrus the Great, the Persian Emperor who is a Zoroastrian by religion and refered to in the bible as King of Kings. He is also refered to by the God of the bible as My Anointed in the book of Ezra. Ezra says that Cyrus attributed his success to Yahweh, but Cyrus himself says it was Marduk the Babylonian God in the Cyrus Cylinder! Read Isaiah 45:1-3 ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cyrus_Cylinder.jpg ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great_in_the_Bible ==> http://cyruscylinder2013.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/FEZANA_Journal_2013_Summer.pdf ==> https://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?2863-Which-is-correct-The-Cyrus-Cylinder-or-the-Bible This presents a problem with the Biblical account which is very similar, but also very different: Isaiah 44:28 [Thus saith the LORD] That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid. Isaiah 45:1-3 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: 3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. The account on the Cyrus Cylinder - presumable dictated by Cyrus himself - says that it was MARDUK who called Cyrus "by name" and "held his hand" and made him a "shepherd" of many peoples. The Bible says the same thing, except it REPLACES the name of Marduk with Yahweh. So which is right? It seems to me that the authors of the Bible rewrote history to include Yahweh when Cyrus was actually attributing his success to Marduk. ==> http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/article_index/c/cyrus_cylinder_-_translation.aspx ==> http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/article_index/c/cyrus_cylinder_-_translation.aspx ==> https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Unearthed-Archaeologys-Vision-Ancient-ebook/dp/B000FBJG86 The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts is a 2001 book about the archaeology of Israel and its relationship to the origins of the Hebrew Bible. The authors are Israel Finkelstein, Professor of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University, and Neil Asher Silberman. They wrote in the Introduction, "Not since ancient times has the world of the Bible been so accessible and so thoroughly explored. Through archaeological excavations we now what crops the Israelites and their neighbors grew, what they ate, how their built their cities, and with whom they traded... Dozens of cities and towns mentioned in the Bible have been identified and uncovered... But that is not to say that archaeology has proved the biblical narrative to be true in all of its details. Far from it: it is now evident that many events of biblical history did not take place in either the particular era or the manner described. Some of the most famous events in the Bible clearly never happened at all." (Pg. 5) IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII "The Bible Unearthed" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYrTOyY3KPk 23:19] Jan 7, 2016 - Uploaded by Audiopedia The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and and the Origin of It's Sacred Text. "The Bible Unearthed, by Finkelstein & Silberman - Book Review" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jp8ofKZTMU 17:27] Jan 17, 2019 - Uploaded by Joseph Francis Burton The Bible Unearthed, by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII "The Cyrus Cylinder (Full Text)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S4ZC-5GwMY [7:12] Jun 8, 2015 - Uploaded by Ancient Recitations The Cyrus Cylinder is an ancient document written in Akkadian cuneiform, attributed to Achaemenid Persian. "The Cyrus Cylinder from Ancient Babylon and the Beginning of the Persian Empire" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qIoEevJ6qE [59:01] Jul 11, 2013 - Uploaded by The Met Lecture by Dr. John E. Curtis, OBE, FBA, Keeper of Special Middle East Projects, The British Museum. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ARCHIVAL MATERIAL #3. "The Nupe and the Origins and Evolution of the Yoruba c. 1275-1897" Published in ©2005. By Idris Shaaba Jimada. Price N1,500. Book excerpts and review of the book got from August 13, 2005 Punch. A HISTORY OF THE NUPE, C.1068 – 1810 A.D..pdf ==>http://kubanni.abu.edu.ng/jspui/bitstream/123456789/9972/1/A%20HISTORY%20OF%20THE%20NUPE%2C%20C.1068%20%E2%80%93%201810%20A.D..pdf If you can lay your hands on the book, it would be interesting to KNOW YOUR thoughts on it. The Nupe ones paid tribute to Oyo Empire just like Dahomey and they were incorporated into the Oyo Empire. Sango's mother was also a Nupe or Tapa. ARCHIVAL MATERIAL #4. Pre-Islamic worshipers in Mecca and Medina, parts of the Arabian Peninsula and parts of the Middle East worshiped the moon God called Al-Iah or the God. Modern archaelogical findings show stone artefacts and paintings devoted to the worship of the moon God, based on polytheism. The Kaaba was a moon worship location with pilgrimage visitations to the Kaaba, before Islam evolved as a syncretic religion. It was into this era that Mohammed the prophet of Islam was born and grew up in to adulthood. Dr. Arthur Jeffery, one of the foremost Western Islamic scholars in modern times and professor of Islamic and Middle East Studies at Columbia University, U.S.A., did a lot of work on pre-Islamic history and arrived at these conclusions in one of his books, (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85). ==>http://www.bible.ca/islam/library/islam-quotes-jeffery.htm Islam is syncretically built on pre-Islamic moon worship. This is why you find the moon crescent on mosque minarets around the world. It was caliph Uthman that codified the teachings of the evolving new religion through abrogations, after the death of the prophet of Islam, because there was NO one standard teaching in Islam... and this led to a deadly 5 year Civil War called fitna by muslims. This is why there is a difference... right up till today in the interpretations of the Koran and the Hadith by Muslim groups or scholars. Sunis and Shiites brutally fight and kill one another through violent bomb explosions in mosques and bombs planted by road sides during processions by rival groups! ==>http://www.truthbeknown.com/islam.htm ==>https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm ==>http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allah-pre-islamic-origin.htm (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85) Dr. Arthur Jeffery, one of the foremost Western Islamic scholars in modern times and professor of Islamic and Middle East Studies at Columbia University, U.S.A. ==>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah_as_a_lunar_deity The name Allah, as the Qur'an itself is witness, was well known in pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Arabia. The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god," becomes Allah, "God." This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85) ==>http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allah-pre-islamic-origin.htm ==>http://www.bible.ca/islam/library/islam-quotes-jeffery.htm I hope this helps to give YOU some more fresh perspectives and unique insights as a researcher. Have a great weekend! Cheers! 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 8:25pm On Apr 01, 2019 |
Konquest: Wow! It will take me a longtime to be able to go through all the links you have given. Honestly, I appreciate the info you shared. I have read some books on Nupe people as well as other complicated written books on the Near East people with for and against ancient Hebrew identity and their migration from Middle East to Africa, then back through Mount Sinai; a place their Alphabets were discovered in 1905. The history has that the ancient Hebrew moved freely and through enslavement to Egypt,Persia, Babylon, Greek land, Roman Empire, and other places. Still, I will definitely go through the pdf on Nupe and will post my view. On the word Allah, it is known word which is of a semitic origin that has its cognates root in ancient Hebrew's word called Elah. And the history has that the large population of the ancient Hebrew, are now known in today's world as lost and being searched out and not yet found . As seemingly hard as this thing, it is unbelievable that the the ancient Yoruba are the ancient Hebrew(Ibri-Ivri),if one considers, pictographs and ancient Hebrew language . The reason is that, the yoruba language is actually Semitic in origin because Ur/Or, is a Yoruba word through the interpreted meaning by western linguists and foundational location.Although, there there are little infiltration of other people's language such as Bantoid,Greek-Roman,Kemet etc, because migration . How do I know this? It is because I have done the research on many words of Semitic origin and Yoruba even Allah which I will expose the meaning of as written as follow: Arabic:Allah Arabic:Ilah Meaning: God Ancient Hebrew: Elah Meaning: God,creator Yoruba: Ela Yoruba: Ila Yoruba:Orunmila Meaning: creator, God represensative for creating mankind, spoken word of God, creator. Cheers 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 7:00pm On Apr 04, 2019 |
@ konquest, how are you doing? it seems you had BOT problem or something as close to such. Well, I have had such experience in the past and I discovered, it was as a result of long typing minutes, which resulted into this problem. Perhaps, you should follow this instruction as follow: 1. Type your messages 2. While typing, make sure you are 98% to end your typing. 3. Then copy your typed messages. 4. Go back to the quoted messages or to the main post if you didn't quote anyone 5. Thereafter, go forth to the space meant for creating new thread and paste the 98% messages of yours. 6. Complete it up with your remaining 2% to make your messages 100% good to go! 7. Post it. Cheers 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 3:53am On Apr 08, 2019 |
Olu317:^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ @Olu317 How was your weekend? Thanks for the feedback. I had already posted another message to you on this thread on wed 3rd April 2019 successfully. Then I added the Web link of the map of Muslim Spain of the years 711 to 1492 for you to see how 40 percent of Spanish words have Arabic loan words and that is how the crazy NL spam bot banned me. I contacted the Super Mods section to UNTAG or UNBAN me, which I did successfully in the past years, but I can see that the important post that I made to you was NOT RESTORED by the Super Mods. This is very strange. I feel pained because I had to type everything off hand and did not save the message I typed to you. Seun needs to do something about removing this spam bots completely from NL! The Super Mods too are not functioning like before when they would have UNBANNED or UNTAGGED a post within 10 minutes. In 2018 I was conversing with Naptu on a Ben Enwonwu painting thread and added an incorrect Web link of a YouTube video of Dr. Bruce Onobrakpeya and his art works, then the spam bot banned me but I was able to get it restored via the Super Mods. Mail Supermods: https://www.nairaland.com/mailsupermods I will rack my brain and try to post another one to you using almost the same sequence this week. Please bear with me. All the best. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Yusufnairaland2: 3:59am On Apr 08, 2019 |
Interesting read |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 4:25am On Apr 08, 2019 |
Yusufnairaland2: @Yusufnairaland2 Good morning. I hope you are doing great How can I be of assistance to you in real terms since you said you sent a DM? Cheers! |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Konquest: 1:21am On Apr 09, 2019 |
Olu317: Arabic:Allah ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ @Olu317 Hi once again! I had to re-type this offhand in a notepad first before posting here. WOW! Olu, you are indeed a real "Prince of The Source" for making the "Ila" semitic connection or similarities in the name for God in Arabic, Hebrew, and Yoruba... Orunmila! You are the FIRST person to ever point this out to me! That was really uncanny! Semitic... in this historical context refers to the people who have mixed black and white ancestries from the ancient times originally in North/East Africa and the Middle East. It would be nice to know if the Yoruba are indeed semitic or partly semitic via DNA tests or that they simply ADOPTED some of these semitic loan words during their long migrations of over 1000 years to their current locations in West Africa, and interactions with other cultures via Egypt/Kush or Sudan/Nubia or Mali/Songhai Empires. I believe that different peoples coalesed via different streams of migrations to form the Yoruba peoples of today. This is the same situation with most ethnicities or peoples all over the world. READ MORE HERE: "West-African Yoruba DNA In Ancient Egypt" ===> https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-05-31/who-were-the-ancient-egyptians/8572076 Mummies from ancient Egypt have revealed another secret — some of them share very little of the sub-Saharan African ancestry that dominates the genetic heritage of modern Egyptians. DNA from mummies reveals that some ancient Egyptians shared very little of the ancestry that dominates the heritage of modern Egyptians. And yet, at some point in the past 1,500 years, there has been a major addition of sub-Saharan genetic material — largely West-African Yoruba — into Egypt's population. SIDE NOTES: 1. The use of "Ila" is quite similar to the Greek parent word: "Historia," which is known as "Histoire" in French, and "History" in English. 2. The Yoruba word for History is "Itan," Nupes call it "Etan," Binis and Idomas call it "Ita!" 3. The Arabic word for History is "Tarikh," the Hausa loan word is "Tariha," the Fulani call it "Tareha," Swahilis call it "Tarikh" as well! I am also aware that there are Arabic loan words in Yoruba language due to the over 500 years of Islam in Yorubaland which originally came from Mali. "Esin Imale" in Yoruba means the "religion of Mali." Iwo town had its first Mosque built in 1655! Download below the brilliant and insightful 8-page PDF of "An Inquiry into the Lexical Affinities between Arabic and Yorùbá Languages." 58 Arabic loan words are found in the Yoruba dictionary. This is quite similar to the fact that about 40 percent of Spanish language having Arabic loan words as well. More on that in the last paragraph of this post! READ MORE HERE: "An Inquiry into the Lexical Affinities between Arabic and Yorùbá Languages" ===>iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol19-issue1/Version-2/H019124754.pdf ===>iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol19-issue1/Version-2/H019124754.pdf ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Nigeria ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Nigeria#Islam_in_Southern_Nigeria PERSIAN EMPIRE AND ARAMAIC INFLUENCES: You do know that Aramaic was the lingua-franca of the Persian Empire, and the ethnic groups all over the Persian Empire used Aramaic to communicate. I read a book years back indicating that Arabic was NOT standardized with tonal dots, and marks like you see in the tonal Yoruba or French languages for instance. It was centuries later after the death of the founder of Islam that Arabic was standardized. I got to know from that book that Arabic took several loan words from the Aramaic language! Indeed the Jews or ancient Israeli were deeply influenced by their 3 Colonial Masters in the Assyrian Empire, Babylonian Empire, and most especially, the Persian Empire. Did you know that it was the Persians that created Judaism which is an imperfect copy of the Zoroastrian religion of the Persians colonial masters. The story of the Old Testament tells the story of Persian rule and religion over the conquered peoples. The Magis are the ancient priests of the Zoroastrian religion of Persia or modern Iran, and they share very strong religious similarities with the Jewish Rabbi priesthood. Without the Magis who are the chief religious priests who are the Cup Bearers, the Persian emperors could not crowned. The Cyrus Cylinder and other BURNT CLAY TABLETS that have been very well preserved for centuries show that the precepts of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are direct copies of the Persian Zoroastrinism. READ MORE HERE: "Persia and Creation of Judaism - Cais-soas.com" "How Judaism was created by the Persians in the fifth century BCE" Table of Contents: ===>http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/Persia_created_judaism.htm ===>katehon.com/article/how-persia-created-judaism-persian-and-jewish-religion Abstract: This article explains how Judaism was created by the Persians in the fifth century BCE. Colonists were deported into Yehud. Their reward was to have control of a temple state which collected taxes for Persia. Only priests of the temple state were Jews—a nation of priests to serve Persians. - Dr M. D. Magee. "THE INVENTION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE" Written by Shlomo Sand, an Israeli professor of history. READ MORE HERE: ===>https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20140125-the-invention-of-the-jewish-people/ ===>https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20140125-the-invention-of-the-jewish-people/ “The invention of the Jewish people” January 25, 2014 at 1:14 am | Published in: Article, Middle East The Invention of the Jewish People was a book written by Shlomo Sand, an Israeli professor of history at the University of Tel Aviv. The author wasn’t probing a belief system, but Zionist fabrications of a spurious common lineage for people of the Jewish faith. Sand argues the implausibility of Jews having a common ethnic identity as Judaism was originally, like Christianity and later Islam, a “proselytising religion”. The notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is incompatible. The results of a recently published study by Israeli-American geneticist Dr Eran Israeli Elhaik at John Hopkins University have scientifically and genetically validated Sand’s research. The idea of a “nation race” was progressively developed and reinforced over centuries of segregated Jewish communities in Europe. In addition to the descendants of the Canaanites, the original denizens before patriarch Abraham’s arrival from Mesopotamia, Sand concludes that today’s Muslim and Christian Palestinians are actually the true progenies of the original Jews. So if there was no exile, where did European Jews come from? Sand suggested that most of today’s Jews did not originate from the Middle East. He argues that the Ashkenazi (European) Jewish ancestry can be traced back to the Caucasus region. In the 8th century, the Khazar’s subjects and subordinate tribes experienced the largest religious conversion in the history of Judaism. The recent study by John Hopkins geneticist Dr Elhaik confirmed that the common genome structure of the Ashkenazi (European) Jew gravitated towards an origin in old Khazaria. “The majority of Jews do not have Middle Eastern genetic component,” he told Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Book 2. How Persia Created Judaism The Universal God http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/book2/pt8.htm "Returning" Exiles or Persian Colonists? http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/book3/pt1.htm The Foundation of Judaism (part I): The Work of Nehemiah and Ezra http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/book3/pt2.htm The Foundation of Judaism (part II): The Work of Nehemiah and Ezra http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/book3/pt3.htm Who Wrote the Hebrew Scriptures? http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/book5/pt1.htm The Prophets: The Persian Propagandists http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/book5/pt2.htm Olu, on another note, did you know that about 40 percent of Spanish has Arabic loan words as well? The Arabs and Berbers came via North Africa and ruled what came to be known as Al-Andalus or Muslim Spain and parts of Portugal from the years 711 CE to 1492 CE! It was in not until 1492 that the indigenous owners of Spain and Portugal led by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabela were ableto muster enough military power to defeat and expel the Arab muslim rulers and their followers out of Europe. Spain and Portugal would have been muslim countries today like Turkey if the military events of 1492 had not taken place. READ MORE HERE: ===>http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/spain_1.shtml ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Spain ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Granada [The fall of Granada in 1492 marked the end of Muslim rule in Iberia] ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_the_Iberian_Peninsula ===>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Muslim_presence_in_the_Iberian_peninsula It is good to be well informed historically or you will fall for ANYTHING. A popular ancient maxim goes thus: "Man Know Thyself." I will keep you updated on more historical information as-and-when-due so as not to overload us with too much info. "Die die ni o!" I appreciate your research work. Thanks again! Cheers! P.S. I have attached the maps of the defunct Muslim Spain or Andalusia/Al Andalus below. 1 Like 2 Shares
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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Yusufnairaland2: 4:22am On Apr 09, 2019 |
THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 2:25pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Hello Konquest, Hope you are doing excellently great.Well,seeing it as uncanny can be quite a ‘compliment', from a scholarly guru as yourself and others, if I must honest ,but truthfully, unraveling the mysterious hidden identity as well as the ancestors of yorubas is what I intend to do,which is the reason this research work is very important to us all,if you share my view. Now, in the book of Gen 1vs 1-3, has a description of the creating power of God of the Hebrew. This was an amazement when I discovered these information in description of the exact Creation of heaven and earth in an IFA corpus. And it goes thus: Odu Ifa Osa Ogunda: There-were-no-living-things Was the priest on earth That-which-was-suspended But-did-not-descend Was the priest in heaven All-was-just-empty-space With-no-substance Was the priest of Mid-Air It was divined for Aiye and Orun* When they both exited With no inhabitants In the two empty snail shells, There were neither birds nor spirits Living in them Odumare then created himself Being the Primal cause Which is the reason we call Odumare The only wise one in aiye He is the only cause in creation, The only wise one in Orun, Who created humans. When He had no companion, He applied wisdom to the situation To avert any disaster. You, alone, The only one in Orun Is the name of Odumare The only wise one, We give you thanks, The only knowing mind, You created man. Listening to one side of an argument, You judge, and all are pleased. Ase. Interestingly, the priest of heaven is ‘Ela'. Who is Ela in the yoruba belief and Hebrew's ? First,in Odu Osa Ogunda is where Ela comes in, In which a part of a verse says, “Iri tu wili tu wili la fi da ile aye, la bu da ile,” which means, “Dews pouring lightly, pouring lightly, was used to create the earth world in order that goodness could come forth into existence at once.” The dew drops are particles of Oro – primordial matter - contained in the snail shell. Once empty, it remains as the representation of the base of causation from which matter derived. The “goodness” speaks to eniyan – human beings, which brought goodness to earth. The oro then melted and was suspended in mid-air (referred to in the above Odu verse as the “priest of mid-air”). Oro then dropped; Oro, the cause of great concern for the wise and experienced elders It sounds, “Ku” (making the heart miss a beat) “Ke” (as a ponderous object hitting the ground) “Gi” (making the last sound before silence) and “La”, with a loud cracking sound is transformed into a new state called “Ela.” Ela is the complex of Orunmila This is the biblical ‘word' of God which is the spirit of the lord which said, ‘ let the light be and the light came forth' through the voice of God, according to the Bible in Genesis 1 vs1-3 and In John 1 vs1-5 it says it all; ‘In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God'. Interestingly, the classic Hebrew owns a word called ‘Urim'-Ur-Or, which means light ,which has same cognate with Yoruba's Orun and with exact meaning. From which Urim-elah (light of God) is creating spirit of God. This Ur was a replical word for light on earthly land where Biblical Abraham was born which was known as Ur/Or in Summer land around the present day of Iraq. This same place was the place the ancient Hebrew once lived at one time and span beyond present day Palestine land Tobuttess on this Hebrew and Yoruba connection is the reason I consider the Kemet cognates with Yoruba which made Bolaji Idowu and Al Iori propounded Arab and Kemet origin of Yorubas. Bolaji Idowu clained over 500 words of coptic Kemet lexicon in yoruba language qnd AlIlori claims 1/3 of Arabic is loaned into Yoruba. So, Kindly note the cognates in these following shared words: 1. Yoruba: rán Meaning: brightness of the sun Kemet:Ra Meaning:sun/daylight 2.Yoruba: érán Meaning: ram,meat; generally name for animals Kemet: Ra Meaning: ram-ramheaded man 3. Yoruba: Orún Meaning: sunlight, daylight Hebrew: or Meaning: sunlight, daylight .Kemet:Heru Meaning:Face of the sun Greek:Horu(s) Meaning: lord of Horizon.The Horizon being known to be the Kemet land known as, land of the rising sun Ibo: Okhu Meaning: light × 4. Yoruba: orù Meaning: emission of the sunlight causing heat Hebrew: or Meaning: emission of the sunlight causing heat Arabic: شَمْس (šams)şems × from Proto-Semitic śamš Meaning: sunlight, light As you can see,from the above, there are words the Arabs didnt have in their lexicon or not as deeply related to yoruba's which pinned down the ancient relationship that connect the Yoruba, Hebrew, Kemet and Arabs. Specifically,the kemet people had once thought ‘Ra', a ram headedman as God, while Yoruba didnt call Ra(éràn) as their God nor have image to represent God but figuratively call, *Elu'orun*- Olorun-Olohun,Eledaa, Eledumare,Eledua( same personality) as their father during calamity or disastrous time, whom the Hebrew also call Elyon as their father (decipher by Western investigators of ancient Hebrew classic language ) . Infact, Édà is the ancient name of Hebrew and this word exist in Yoruba Ifa corpus as the identity of yoruba person and his/her creator known as Élédà; the Creator. To the extent, that panegyric is made to encourage daily prayer to Eledaa(Ori-creator), in such a way to appease and solidify one's personal relationship with God,so that one can be healthy, devoid of calamity, and prosperous in every sphere of one's life. To this concept , do posit more words with same potent meaning in both Classic Hebrew and shared words with Yoruba in the following: 5. Yoruba: èlè,olè,àlè Meaning: tough ,trength, wondrous,with power,might Hebrew:el Meaning: strength, powerful 6. Yoruba : Èsù(Yeshua) Yoruba:Olùbodè/Onìbodè Òrun Meaning: the one who allows or disallow entrance to heaven, guide to heaven when God permit such seeker or not Hebrew: Yeshua/eshua Meaning: entrance name to heaven Arabic: Yusuf Meaning:* Prophet of God, born with breathe of God × The Arab interpretation is not correct because he(Yesu) is known to be more than a prophet The above you can see, the name ESU and the his position being occupied in Heaven fit accurately to Yesu in the Bible,which make believed that, the perspective of some biased Christiancentric Yoruba people in 1840s upward who muddled up Yoruba people as practising evil tradition in their worship because of repackaged religion of Christianity which was actually a final face of Yoruba religion of IFA. This didnt mean the Yoruba never had it own shortcoming because the way some of the modern day pastors manipulate the biblical doctrine to suit their egocentric nature was the exact manner some Ifa priest did in ancient era. Interestingly, the Ifa corpus on ‘Ori' is totally replicated in the Bible as the epitome of relationship with God is PERSONAL.The highest appeal in this Ori(Eledaa) is an advice, which says,é jé kà fi' Orisa sí'lé ka bò'rí -Élédáà (let's do away with ancestral worship but worship Élédáà) which the Bible agrees with as personal relationship with God . As The Yoruba ancestors muddled up their tradition somewhere along migration because being stiffnecked and disobedience to their God,which has made the inscription of Opa Oranmiyan and the Ogun inscription mould,impossible to be translated. But,with the help of Ela, the meaning is certainly translatable. This so Yoruba Christians made the land of our ancestors looked evil,not realising that the Jerusalem is actually the place yoruba replicated wherever they occupy, which is known as Ulè-urisa,Ile-urisa,eleOrisa which was turned to Jerusalem by conqueror of the land during the fall of Hebrew land,where Jerusalem is situated. How is this possible? The meaning of the Corrupt name of Uresaluem, Jerusalem is actually ,‘the land of the gods.. . As this meaning corroborate the meaning of Ule-urisa in Yoruba lexicon,which is ‘the land of the gods(ancestors); invariable, the land,the lord of their God ,which was given to their ancestors is where they pray unto God through their ancestors. Basically, I have read about the yoruba DNA traces in Egypt in one of the researchers work. Even at this, Professor David Reich specifically identified Yoruba linkage with some group of Northern European while a recently conducted test done on Yoruba people had a 8% alien ghost Dna West Africa which is not yet with a match. There are many researches being carried out on Yoruba people. On the Islam aspect is another area I disagreed with many scholars who had thought Islam was the basis of Semitic works language infiltration into Yoruba lexicons because Opa Oranmiyan is far older than Islam and the inscription writing on it,has been adduced in the western world as the ONLY SEMITIC Writing in West Africa because it has Reish/Resh ,which is an ancient Hebrew word for ‘ R' and Yoruba's ‘Rí'/‘Re' so also Hebrew's Yod/Yud,which is a “y” as a consonant or an “iy’ as a vowel. And Yoruba's ‘Yi'/‘Ye'. Thus, it is embarrassing to think Yoruba borrowed all her lexicons from people whose distance is more than 3000 miles apart if Yoruba ancestors weren't from that region. Infact,Yoruba language is actually Semitic origin. How is this possible? It is important to bear in mind that the ancient Hebrew was not documented in the early Hebrew but in Aramaic). Thus, every Hebrew interpretation is based on Western researchers, who studied the pictographs of alphabet of ancient Hebrew found in Sinai region which are been used for reconstruction of the language.And based on this, is the reason that many shared words between Yoruba's and semitic people exists. Further examples being shared by Yoruba, Arabic and Hebrew which is as following: Yoruba : Imu-rá Meaning: prepare to embark on a journey,dress up to go out on a journey Arabic: Imra Meaning: to embark on a journey Hebrew: ra'a(yim-ra) Phonetic: raw-ah Meaning: prepare to embark on a journey Yoruba: jú,jó,àjó Meaning: traveling, journey Hebrew phonetic: goor Meaning: journey, traveling Arabic: Hajj Meaning: journey, traveling *Take note*: The ancient Hebrew is based on reconstruction because the language speakers could not be found since over 3000-4000+ years ago. In fact, during the era of Jesus-Esu, Aramaic was being spoken,which was a Persian language; arabic related Semitic language. Allthough credit must be given to wbom thay deserve it,such as Al Ilori, but as far as my research is concerned,the Yoruba developed her language in Semitic land and didnt have many of these words as loaned into her lexicon as being stipulated by Al Ilori Al-Ilori(1987) as being credited to him in his postulations,which in his statement claimed that the present Yoruba tribes were formed from four origins: 1) Negroes, 2) Nubians, 3) Berbers and 4) Arab. He opines that the last three tribes have dwelled in Egypt, took from their cultures and carried them to Yoruba land. He then gives account that it has remained till now in Yoruba some of Arabic words which are more than one third in which Yoruba speak daily as it has remained in Nubian and Berber languages. Based on the different opinions on the origin of Yoruba and their language, it is apparent that part of Yoruba language did not come from nowhere but seems to be connected with Arabic than any other languages. The statement above showed some semitic influence on the Yoruba's language. But the statement by Al Ilori is quite inconsistent with the year Islam came to Yoruba land around 15th-16th century and by 1650s, the first mosque was built in Iwo . Interestingly, before this period Semitic words had existed in yoruba land, previewed 1000s of years. How do I mean? Ifa existed before Islam,so thus the present people called Yoruba. Thus, word such as the following that has cognates with ancient Hebrew before Islam,namely Yoruba: Sh'ode Meaning: to hunt Hebrew: tsade Meaning: to hunt Yoruba : Bo'a,Bo Meaning: Come,return Hebrew: Bo,Boâ Meaning: Come,return Yoruba: Baalé Meaning: Lord of a town who,oversee the wellbeing of the community, under the overall king of such kingdom Hebrew :Baal,Baaliy Meaning: lord of a town Yoruba: O-Ba,Ba Meaning: king of a kingdom Hebrew: Ba Meaning: King or lord of kingdom, town From the above, it is obvious Yoruba had Semitic lexicon that existed before Islam and which are the same in cognates and meaning with Hebrew from Near East or Middle East. On the issue of shared word with neighbouring people such as Nupe(Tapa,Borgu,Igala),Bini,Ibo,who shared lighter Yoruba words are basically as a result of interaction and coincidence. Nothing more. Take for instance, the farther you move away from Kwara-Bida, the spoken yoruba language found in these enclaves dwindled. The same go Bini history and Ibo ,which is attestation that apparently agree with your view and the world notion of migration and intermingling of different people at one time or the other.... Fatigue crept in after this lengthy info..... Cheers for now....... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by aribs(m): 3:39pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Interesting history i stumbled across on this thread. A shame it just faded away. |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Nobody: 2:24pm On Dec 08, 2020 |
Hmm, am proud to be of this tribe 1 Like |
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| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by VEHINTOLAR: 7:41pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
Osugbo: Proudly Yoruba; African finest ! I love this piece my brother and I'm proud of you too. The fact is that Yoruba,we are the single largest ethnic group in Africa. Have you ever been to Ile Ife the cradle of Yoruba race ? The ancient city is in Osun state,south west of Nigeria. I'll suggest you visit to learn more about Yoruba people and our beautiful culture. Our culture is unique and it distinguishes us from others wherever we go and may be found. I hope you know that there are many indigenous Creoles in Lagos and Ogun states of Nigeria ? I must say that I find the inscriptions on that Gambian masquerade guild quite unbelievable ! Everything about it is original Yoruba ; Ekun Baba Ode ,wow ! That's unbelievable ! Many thanks for this piece Omo Iya mi from Sierra Leone ! 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by VEHINTOLAR: 11:29pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
geosegun: As a people,Yoruba have lost so many things because we are yet to discover who we truly are ! I have always believed that Yoruba people are not just another Africans; we are quite unique in some very unbelievable ways. Do you think it a mere coincidence that one the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt's DNA matches that of the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Benin republic ? I know of a reputable IFA scholar in Osogbo,Osun state - Baba Elebuibon - Ifayemi Elebuibon,there are many of them actually,but he is the Araba Awo of Osogbo. Please,google his name to know more about him. You can contact Baba if you wish to learn IFA deeply. Good luck bro,cheers ! 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by VEHINTOLAR: 12:32am On Jul 29, 2021 |
Osugbo: Wow ! Ijala Ode ! Osugbo,my brother, I love you already ! That flute is a major musical instrument of the Hunters (Ode) in Yoruba land. They play it during their ceremonial -ritual or special outings. This is so deep ! I actually dropped some tears while listening to that song; It's amazing ! I know that wherever we (Yoruba people) go,our culture follows us and we don't ever forget it or drop it. That's why when you get to Bahia in Brazil today, you'll know immediately that you're in a Yoruba community. Yoruba culture is very visible Bahia,Brazil. Osugbo,,please visit Nigeria,precisely south west; it is your home ! You'll meet a lot of indigenous Creoles (Yoruba) in Lagos and Ogun States. I'm a Nigerian Yoruba while You are a Sierra Leonean one but one thing stands out - we are one indivisible Yoruba people worldwide,from Nigeria to Benin republic, to Sierra Leone, Togo, Ghana,Gambia,Senegal,Brazil Cuba,Trinidad and Tobego,etc ! On a lighter one,you need to know that the owner of this platform -Nairaland (Seun Osewa) is a Yoruba man too ! 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Olu317(m): 4:12pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
VEHINTOLAR:Do you have theweblnk to that DNA of a Pharaoh who match Yoruba's ? |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by scholes0(m): 12:02pm On Jul 31, 2021 |
It seems Yoruba descendants are quite numerous in this country sha.... The culture is even attracting more natives and expanding it seems. Sierra Leone should make Yoruba a National or official Language already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8MpUMSI2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIXRnJbzBW8 2 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by delpee(f): 6:49pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Osugbo: Interesting. I'm pleasantly surprised that they still bear Yoruba names. Perhaps some still have relatives here. I would also like to hear stories from the Ewe, Akan and the Yoruba groups in Togo and Benin. Those in the Caribbeans, Brazil and Cuba still keep the culture alive too. |
| Re: Yoruba People and Culture From Sierra Leone And The Gambia. by Files: 10:25pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
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